Well, thanks for your honest response, Vincent. I wasn't responding to your posts as much I was to others on this thread who seem to not be able to comprehend that there are other artists out there who are deserving of praise, besides Prince.

During which tours did you see Beck? I've seen him 5 or 6 times, and every time had a completely different feel.

The fact that you think Beck is really ugly perplexes me though...b/c I would kill babies for one night with his face. Do you think Prince is good-looking?

It's like this Beck fans...

If you're into Prince, as I am, I think Prince has set the BAR pretty high.

There has NOT been one, ONE artist to match or even REACH his creative and performance heights, period.

If you think Beck is a genius and a wonderful performer and singer...fine, whatever.

All I'm saying is that you can't compare the two because Beck sucks. Beck sucks...Beck sucks.

Either you haven't seen Prince live or oven in a fuzzy camcorder recorded, 100-generation video copy...even then, El Prince...kicks ass.

I've listened to his albums, TRIED to give Beck a chance...and no, my observation has concluded that Beck is like someone else said, a jokester, a parody of Hip Hop and, oh lord, Funk. He's NOT funky.

And tell me, because I AM NOT going to waste time and $ on a concert, did Beck sing Debra with that full falsetto? I want to know.

As for Beck saying MV was a tribute to the kind of music he'd like to hear Prince, play, oh no, no. Please. Anyway, I think an artist doesn't have to put bugs in others ears so the ones who can't see the Real Funk go "oh yeah, like Prince...yeah...Beck ith a geniuth!"...c'mon.





Darn spelling...
[This message was edited Sun Aug 24 11:39:30 PDT 2003 by FlyingCloudPassenger]

FlyingCloudPassenger said:

- Try the search engine of P.org before saying it. Beck is definitely a Prince fan, so it was hardly a parody. I think that Midnite Vultures was a very good album, specially because I didnt like Beck´s work pre-Midnite.
It´s not Prince news? Hey, how long have you been here? P.org is full of Prince-related news. If we had to wait for exclusive Prince news, we would have one each 3 months.

mrdespues said:

- Yeah...some people here usually get angry when Beck is mentioned. ´No one can cover a Prince song´ or ´Beck is not a genius´. And who said he was? He never claimed to be a genius or better than Prince. He is an authentic songwriter and one of the most expressive artists of the 90s.
About that ´Beck is a Prince wannabe´ or ´There is no one like Prince´ quotes...don´t you feel that James Brown fans felt the same way when Prince appeared?

VINCENT said:

1) What does dancing has to do with music? Miles Davis and Frank Zappa couldnt dance and were geniuses.
2) Let´s not forget that Prince used to play with some weak bands in his career too.

Oye...el Prince es mejor. Beck el sucko, okaii!

Beck el sucko, Beck el sucko...Beck el sucko.

And dancing has everything to do with music.

Miles and Zappa didn't do dance music.

Beck is a genius, and he rules.

teller said:

Rules what?... the tin can sample solutions committee. lol...


Is Prince better than Elvis... lol...

Of course Prince is better than the Beatles... as good all four of umm in one... person...actually...

theblueangel said:

Just check out Beck's latest...SEA CHANGE and tell me this guy is not a talented musician!

Personally I find all this hatin' pretty sad for people who should be the most open minded people because they listen to Prince and understand that having an open mind is what music is all about.

LIVE4LOVE

FlyingCloudPassenger said:

- Beck was never said to be a ´dance´ artist and he never had the intention of being the ´new Prince´ as lots of these neo-soul suckers.
And Prince´s music wouldn´t sound less danceable if he didnt dance. I dont remember seeing George Clinton dancing like Michael Jackson, specially on recent years...and the guy is funky.

mrdespues said:

Amen!!! ThankYOU

Well said, 2020...I also find it sad, and disappointing that Prince fans would be so strangely knee-jerk about Beck's music, especially since it's clear that the vast majority of people criticizing his music on this thread have never even listened to it, aside from perhaps Loser. Making ludicrous statements such as "Beck can't sing" belies that fact.

And yes, the man can rock the falsetto like no other white man I've ever heard. And that's including myself!

Oh well, at least there ARE some intelligent, open-minded people on here. Thank god for y'all! Youknowwhoyouare.

**I'm not saying that everyone isn't entitled to their own opinion - of course they are. Some people like Prince, some people like Beck, some people like both. I just don't understand why some orgers have such vicious attitudes towards other artists, when they expect the rest of the world to get over Prince's numerous eccentricities and concentrate on the music.

I'm gonna go pop Sea Change in the player.

2020 said:

I listened to Sea Change also, twice, the second time, I couldn't bear it. It was the most boring piece of audio poope I have ever heard. If you think he's a genius, fine.

Personally, to me, I, Beck sucks.

Don't take it personal, it's just my opinion.

And I'm always open to music experiences, I tried to experience Beck and I simply was not impressed.

Again, the bar is set pretty high. It's kind of what I measure mono-name artists by.

And I'll say it again, Beck sucks.

Sea no listen to again.

2020 said:

I always enjoyed Beck's music to a certain extent but up until Sea Change I always found something suspicious/pretentious about his music.

Sea Change is what converted me into a true believer.
Pure,emotionally honest music and lyrics.
It's a beauty.

Beck? Yeah, he could be a mini-prince-wanna-b. He's cool, he has a cool, funky sound goin' on too. He's vertically-challenged too (which I actually think is sexy!). Yep, Beck is cool doin' Prince covers. I always thought he had the small, white version of a pre-prince thing goin on. U Go Beck. Just check with our man Prince on some tipz on keepin' it funkay!!

FlyingCloudPassenger said:

- This time I have to agree with you. I dont like Sea Change too.

just because Beck covers a prince song and performs similar to the way that prince did, doesn't make him a prince wannabe.i am a die hard prince fan and i don't talk badly about other artist.prince is an extremely good musician, and he is not the only one.there are others out there,that are just as good.since most of you think beck is a prince wannabe,what does that make prince? A WANNABE JAMES BROWN?

I have ALL of Beck's albums, and the he is a funky white man! What i like about him is his interpretations of his influences ...Hip-hop, Funk, Folk, Pop & Rock. He incorporates each one in2 his own sound without copying it. The easy way out would B 2 sample, but he does not do that. Prince does the same thing with his influences...Jimi, Sly, Miles & Joni Mitchel. They R both ARTIST'S in their OWN right. Prince is just better that's all! LOL

Beck giving a better show than Prince, now that I got to see. A little over the top with your compliments don't you think.-Crack kills.

theblueangel said:

Well said, indeed, though I don't know about his live voice as I missed his show again 2 weeks ago in Salzburg, like I had missed the one in Philadelphia in May, so I never had the chance to check him out live

Fuck me, are the NPGMC forums closed again or something ?

Surely its OK to talk about other artists in a complimentary manner on here ?

All those slagging off Beck - HOW MANY INSTRUMENTS CAN YOU PLAY HUH ?

There's far too many jealous, talentless, spineless, Prince-obsessed wacko's on here these days.

...by my impression of sea change, Beck is a genious; then again you can't base such judgement on one album alone... especially when it comes to Beck where every album is so far appart as if they are all by different artists.

I cannot imagine any live per4mer being anywhere as good as good ol' P.

Right, last word. Some people like beck , some people dont, fair enough. As far as im concerned the music worlds a better place for having them(prince,beck) in it, because the one thing they definately share is character(both quite mercurial) and that s gotta be a good thing when it seems to be such a rare commodity these days.
Just a side note, for all those people living in london, your all invited to MOOKS,Notting hill Gate, for 'FLING' ON THURSDAY 28 AUGUST, Get there between 6- 12. I guarantee its gonna be a fun night playing everything from vanity 6 'nasty girl' to chicago 'street player' plus drinks are 2 4 1 all night - see you there

It's ok to give another artist props, it it neccesary to take a shot at Prince in the process?

mrdespues said:

Totally agree, Beck is just having fun and does it in a very pleasant way! I love Midnight Vultures and I wish Prince would integrate some of the modern production techniques used on this album...

freakyfeet said:

Wacko yes, jealous, no, spineles, hardly.

Debra is as good a song as Prince has wrote in the last 10 years. Beck is not a genius but neither is Prince, just check out the random quotes at the top of your page!

'Debra' is absolutely fantastic
In fact the whole production on that lp is goddamn amazing

I'm finding the negativity about Beck on these boards really odd... very odd, as not 1 single person has made a good case of why they think 'Beck sux' apart from saying he''s riding on Prince's past... which absolute bollox

Not one single person has mentioned if Beck has performed that song LIVE. I'm very interested.

You know, singing falsetto, that a sign that you have a braod vocal range, on Sea Cringe, he only sang in a monotone, colorless voice, what's up?