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Time Warner reediting old prince tracks? This from the PopBitch newsletter:
The Prince Revival starts here? Time Warner are secretly re-editing and adding songs deleted from Purple Rain, in a secret Arizona studio. The new songs are believed to be Electric Intercourse, Extra Lovable, These Things, Take Me God! and The Dance Electric. Prince seems to have cooled down from his dispute with label Warners, and is even talking of recording an album of 80s-style new material ready for the cinema release of Purple Rain: The Truth next summer. hmmm -------------------------------------------------
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If this 411 is true, i'm gonna b in a st8 of complete & constant anticipation til these items r released!!! | |
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I highly question the reliability and truth of such a statement. Still, it could happen. I wouldn't doubt it. I don't think it would be a PR move, either. Perhaps this is the reason for the lack of news on the npg music club website - who knows? | |
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What the fuck is the PopBitch newsletter? When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading. | |
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anything coming from sumthin called PopBitch can go str8 in the fan fiction bin
These Things, Take Me God! <<< r these even Prince outtakes??? [This message was edited Mon Apr 7 0:54:15 PDT 2003 by Joshy84au] ***************************************************************************************
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don't dsmiss this too early.
all record companies are in a bad way, and all are trying to make some cash off of valueble back catalouge. When else is Purple Rain going to worth so much again. Also, those rights run out, they are not infinite. I'm sure a lot of it is nonsence just to create more of a story. but i am sure that the anniversary of PR will not go unoticed by WB and the mainstream music press. | |
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huh, what´s this?!?! April fools day revisited? | |
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I have heard this news to the radio !!! | |
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I find this hard to believe. If he is back in bed with WB they must have given him some sweetheart of a deal. Hope its true but I doubt it. | |
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This was already posted in another org thread about 4 days back...and 4 the record, pOpbitch are very rarely ever wrong. guess it's just a case of sitting back and keeping our fingers crossed  | |
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PS: doubt it is a deal as such with Warners - dont they own His back catalogue anyway? so therefore, they can pretty much do what they want with it (as good or bad that may be - whichever side of the fance u sit on)
but hey - look at it this way, some of those CDs are so badly mastered - they really need 2 be brought up 2 speed - so it's a good thing surely that they are finally dipping in2 that whole back catalogue...isnt it???  | |
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ZAZA2 said: I find this hard to believe. If he is back in bed with WB they must have given him some sweetheart of a deal. Hope its true but I doubt it.
Prince has said on record he has no beef with WB. He just wants a fair deal. If WB puts a deal that benfits both of them and offer him the masters (something he would go through public ridicule to fight for...) and all they want form him is input to promote and support the project i can see him going with it. Also, WB can do certain things with his back catalouge as they own it, not Prince, so wouldn't he want to controll the use if he had the chance by being co-operative...? The whole Glastonbury story was real, the organisers said so themselves. For whatever reason the plan didn't come off, but how do we know he isn't taking a break, possibly to start a fam or just chill, then he goes on a world tour to support this project. i still think it's all just rumour, but to say it simply won't happen just 'cause of WB, is being a bit to quick to dismiss IMHO. [This message was edited Mon Apr 7 5:00:34 PDT 2003 by NME] | |
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Id imagine that the chances of Him touring in support of this possible project is very doubtful - however, that does'nt mean that He may have some involvement with it.
Then again, He may not - u know how He don't like 2 look back... ONLY TIME WILL TELL!  | |
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NME said: ZAZA2 said: I find this hard to believe. If he is back in bed with WB they must have given him some sweetheart of a deal. Hope its true but I doubt it.
Prince has said on record he has no beef with WB. He just wants a fair deal. If WB puts a deal that benfits both of them and offer him the masters (something he would go through public ridicule to fight for...) and all they want form him is input to promote and support the project i can see him going with it. Also, WB can do certain things with his back catalouge as they own it, not Prince, so wouldn't he want to controll the use if he had the chance by being co-operative...? The whole Glastonbury story was real, the organisers said so themselves. For whatever reason the plan didn't come off, but how do we know he isn't taking a break, possibly to start a fam or just chill, then he goes on a world tour to support this project. i still think it's all just rumour, but to say it simply won't happen just 'cause of WB, is being a bit to quick to dismiss IMHO. [This message was edited Mon Apr 7 5:00:34 PDT 2003 by NME] PopBitch were also the first people to say that Prince would be playing Glastonbury NEXT year, rather than this. Now obviously we don't know that is true, but we do know he isn't playing this year, so they are already half right. -------------------------------------------------
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First off, WB cannot do anything without Prince's approval. They can continue to release the original editions of his CDs, but they cannot go re-editing without Prince's involvement (this is why they went and released that shitty "Very Best Of.." Cd after Prince changed his mind on the whole "Prince: A Celebration" CD).
Warner's does own the master to "Purple Rain", but they wouldn't own any of the outtakes, so that would require Prince's involvment. Stranger things have happened, but we've heard so many of these rumours over the years, I'm not holding my breath. 
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JediMaster said: Warner's does own the master to "Purple Rain", but they wouldn't own any of the outtakes, so that would require Prince's involvment. Stranger things have happened, but we've heard so many of these rumours over the years, I'm not holding my breath.
RIGHT. WB does not reserve any rights over Electric Intercourse, Extra Lovable, These Things, Take Me God! and The Dance Electric any more than they reserved any rights over Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic -- sure, they were recorded during Prince's time with WB, but they were never released on an album and therefore still belong to Prince. So, to use any of the PR outtakes would definitely require Prince's involvement. Check out The Mountains and the Sea, a Prince podcast by yours truly and my wife. More info at https://www.facebook.com/TMATSPodcast/ |
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Interesting points both. But u know what record company CONtracts are notorious 4: small print. It would not surprise me in the slightest 2 find that anything recorded during the time He was CONtratced 2 them that any surplus 2 'released' recordings would legally belong 2 them.
Im playing Devil's Advocate here - does anyone here know anything about how the legalities of record companies can work?
Thought it worth bringing up... | |
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Even if this is true today, Prince will change his mind one hundred times by next year. | |
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hmmm... this is interresting... Peace ... & Stay Funky ...
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moderatorjbchavez said: Even if this is true today, Prince will change his mind one hundred times by next year.
yeah. you're right on that one. oh well this may just turn into another 'if only prince had...' | |
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being in a position to find out if Warner Brothers is in fact dealing with prince on this i have set out on a truth finding mission..
this is what i have gathered so far... all parties agree Prince is definatley doing something with purple rain... but it has nothing to do with warner brothers... infact two sources told me that warners no longer has the rights to purple rain... one person believes he is actually re-recording the album for the anniversary and another source believes he may have the rights to re-release it on his own... we'll see what more they find out. | |
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jbchavez said: Even if this is true today, Prince will change his mind one hundred times by next year.
is this b/c he is a gemini 
I got 2 sides and neither once of them can make up there mind  carry on
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rumor mill has mentioned befor ethat prince is looking into re-recording all of his albums from WB. in my opinion ... lame. give us new music. | |
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manonearth said: infact two sources told me that warners no longer has the rights to purple rain... although i'm sure your sources are better informed than most, there is no way that the contract under which PR's rights are enforced was only for a period of less that 25 years. typically 25 years is the normal period, therefore WB rights to PR will not end until 2008. Just to back this view up... the current Controversy dance white label & the I would Die For You cover version we've had in the UK, had to be cleared by Prince AND Warner Brothers. so i doubt the rights have reverted yet. | |
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Okay, it is INCREDIBLY doubtful that WB doesn't currently own the master of Purple Rain. Equally doubtful that Prince owns the rights to the film at all. I think all this speculation is rather pointless. I'm not trying to be a killjoy, but the fact is that most of these rumours stem from ill-informed sources that really don't understand how all of the legal technicalities work. It is possible that P is re-recording PR, as he has claimed to be re-recording his whole catalogue from scratch. Still, the likelihood of all this happening is doubtful
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bananacologne said: Interesting points both. But u know what record company CONtracts are notorious 4: small print. It would not surprise me in the slightest 2 find that anything recorded during the time He was CONtratced 2 them that any surplus 2 'released' recordings would legally belong 2 them.
Im playing Devil's Advocate here - does anyone here know anything about how the legalities of record companies can work?
Thought it worth bringing up... Wb only owns the masters to material that Prince released on album. All studio outtakes are owned by Prince himself, as well as earlier, unedited masters of material. You have to realise that, at the time of PR's release, he was managed by Cavallo, Ruffalo & Fargnoli, an incredibly agressive firm who would have been sure to keep Prince out of any "fine print" deals that would have prevented him from taking material elsewhere once his WB contract expired. Besides, we already know that this material doesn't fall under his WB contract, since much of the Crystal Ball set was made up of material from his Warner's days. The plain fact is, if it didn't make it onto album, then it isn't owned by WB. I'm not saying that the powers-that-be at WB aren't courting Prince for some sort of 20th anniversary release, just that they aren't doing it WITHOUT Prince's involvment.
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