Accurate knowledge of Christ & the Father will bring the everlasting zzz.

WOW I never knew this many people liked Everlasting Now.

Much Love,
LoLinex

i WOULD RATHER HEAR LAST DECEMBER OR sHE LOVE ME 4 ME

Of course he's going to do something off of TRC and ONA Live, it will help boost sales of both records. It makes good business sense. If peeps don't wanna spend 50 bucks on the live set, they can buy TRC. Once they hear that, they'll be heading back to the wrecka stow to get their ONA Live on!
Prince...u play what u wanna, it's your show!

mediadarling said:

shut up, ignoramus.

jimmyrogertodd said:[[/quote]Well,apparently you don't get what he is saying and that should have always been the case cause he is doing this music for HIMSELF!!! If you happen to enjoy so much the better but essentially it is all for him to enjoy.These are his belief system and although he is singing about it if you don't get it then it is your soul that doesn't get it. Now I am not a JW but I understand the basis for such a spiritual a message but you have to open your heart and minds which he has been saying for quite a few years.Prince has always been on spiritual quest and maybe JW is what he needs for himself and I think he is just expressing himself the only way he can.[/quote]

Please..I don't have a problem with him being spiritual..not at all. Hell he can start handing out the Watchtower magazine for all I care. But if he wants to convey the message of one religious group and alienate everyone else...that his business. It isn't going to help him in the public arena. Which he cares about or he wouldn't be on Leno. Unless of course it's about fulfilling his obligation as a JW to spread the word.

As for my soul not getting it..well what my soul doesn't "get" is what he believes in. Which at the end of the day is no more the truth then what other religions in the world believe in. One can be spiritual without ramming ones specific beliefs down people's throats. There's a big difference from preaching that God is love (the old Prince) and God is what the JWs believe in (the new Prince)
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Actually, the crap about Lincoln was what we were taught in our public schools. Along with Christopher Columbus and the Native Americans.
Now that I think about it, I wish Prince WOULD perform Avalanche. Just imagine the reaction from those right-wing ninnys at the Fox News Network. Too funny.
But the Bush administration would probably try to have him deported, so better stick with The Everlasting Now.

shygirl said:

Oh damn we're going to start this crap again?! Prince took one Lincoln quote out of thousands to prove his point. Ignoring a whole lot of other things Lincoln said contrary to Prince's flawed view of history. Please don't take your history lessons from Prince. Else I'm going to pull out those Lincoln quotes that contradict that stupid "Avalanche" song. He can sing the "ittsy, bittsy, spider" song for all I care; as long as we don't have to argue this again.

On the other hand I do agree that Columbus "discovering" this part of the world was the worse things that could have happened to the peoples that were already here. And that the "fair and balanced" (yeah right) Fox is full of ninnys.
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FirstAvenue said:

Purely & simply: no.

the evrlasting now is sooo corney, what about annasteisa or somethign from xenaphobia, i mean that shit is weak

2freaky4church1 said:

I totally agree. Another mistake in a series of mistakes. Play something people aside from the sheep-fams actually want to hear. I'm tired of hearing stuff like the Work--which is a total JB ripoff--on late night shows. "Wow" somebody, don't bore them and soapbox...

The Everlasting Now is the best song on TRC and I'm really sad I'm in Holland right now, so I can't be there, 'cause he's gonna bring the house down!!

"EVERYBODY JUMP UP AND DOWN!"

So what's the second song gonna be??? Doesn't the musical guest usually play two songs???

NPGen2002 said:

Not on Leno or Letterman. Normally they have the opening monologue, a comedy skit, a guest or two, and then a comedian or music group plays one song.
When he played Leno in 2001, he did two shows, one song on each show. That might change, but the earlier nightly talk shows don't sway too far from that format.

SynthiaRose said:

It's only going to offend those who are anti-christ. hummm Sounds a little like ANTICHRIST.

Everywhere said:

It is a typo, here is the email I recieved from the NPGMC:

Hello NPGMC

Thank u 2 everyone who sent in their request 4 tickets 2 the taping of Prince & The NPG on The Tonight Show Friday, December 13th. We only have a small amount 2 give out and now have more than enough member names. We will let the members who r on the list know shortly.

A reminder, those who do not make the list but want 2 pack that audience 2 the roof with NPG, a good chunk of tickets are made available 2 the public at 8am the day of the show.
On the morning of December 13th, go 2:

NBC Guest Relations Window
3000 W. Alameda (actual entrance is on California Street)
Burbank, CA

There, u can wait in line 2 get general audience tickets 4 the show.
As we said b4, let's bring the hype of the One Nite Alone Tour in2 Jay's House!

Love4oneanother,
The NPG Music Club
http://www.npgmusicclub.com/

shygirl said:

Excuse me while I co-sign to what shygirl said ...
Avalanche on Leno would be HOT. What a statement it would be! Imagine how silent many in the audience at home and some in the audience would be. What would Jay's reaction be? He might be speechless, then try to make light of it.
Great song, great message to chew on.
If he does Everlasting Now, I'm sure it will be hot. But folks would be talking about that Avalanche performance for dayz.

I was hoping someone would state the obvious here, but other than one poster (imnotsayinthis
just2bnasty), nobody has...so I will..lol

Prince isn't playing something from TRC...he's playing something from ONA Live...if you haven't heard ONA Live, trust me, "Everlasting Now" just smokes ferociously live...the live version on that box set is fierce...and more than that, it's 85% instrumental, so all of the blathering about how lyrics will put off anyone but the "sheep" is ridiculous because there aren't enough lyrics in the damn live version to put of anyone...it's just one very tight, smokin' groove when performed live...and, yes, Prince will be performing live on The Tonight Show, not lip-syncing the TRC version...Anyone who hears this live version on Jay Leno and wants to own it will have to buy ONA Live...makes perfect sense to me...

Sheeesh...

Damn, wellbeyond, now I really want to get ONA Live... I was starting to relax and become patient again.

I think Everlasting Now is a great choice. Strange Relationship would be good for TV because it's very catchy and high-energy, but Everlasting Now is great too.

I hope he drags Jay out on stage to dance, and some people from the audience too. "You in the black dress! You in the black dress!"

blackwell1 said:

You may have been taught that Lincoln freed the slaves in school but i was never taught this. The Civil War was not fought over slavery, it has and always will be shown to be a division between the Northern and Southern states:
The economic: The North was becoming industrialized while the South depended upon the plantation system and import/exports to and from England; The political: Federal Gov't rights(north) VS States rights(South); and lastly, as a side note: slavery.

The Emancipation Proclamation did not free most slaves in the United States, and even Lincoln was fully aware of this, as no US President has the power to legalize or abolish an institution like slavery -and even if enforced-- the wording of the EP made certain it did not apply to slaves in border states fighting on the Union side; nor did it affect slaves in southern areas already under Union control in 1863.
Only until the 13th Amendment's passage , were slaves freed. Lincoln obviously had some influence over the passage of the 13th amendment, but it was only an end result of the Civil War, and by no means a reason for it.

--"Horace Greeley, editor of the New York Tribune, one of the leaders of the anti-slavery movement, urged Lincoln to "convert the war into a war on slavery". Lincoln replied that he would continue to place the Union ahead of all else. "My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave, I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves, I would do it; and if I could do it by freeing some and leaving others alone, I would also do that."

-http://members.tripod.com/~greatamericanhistory/gr02000.htm

Jay seems like an easy-going, open minded fellow and Prince probably feels more at ease with him that any of the songs he does will go over very well,that is if he doen't switch geers and play something completely different.

blackwell1 said:

And it would also be BS! The question isn't whether Lincoln actually FREED the slaves (or whether it was in truth the 13th Amendment); the issue is what Prince says in the song..

"He was not or never had been in favor of setting r people free...He was not or never had been in favor of letting us vote..."

That's the B.S. Those 2 statements don't actually hold with what Lincoln said in his life. Especially in his later days.

But hey if you want to take your history lessons from Prince (I must have missed the day Prince became a historian) just because he plays great music; that's your business. But B.S. is still B.S.

I see now there is nothing worse than a rabid fan, Who believes everything Prince says and thinks he can't do NO wrong.

Prince and his band are going to tear it up with that song.

My predictions, it will be a different super funked out version...it will conitinue through the commercial break...no wait, Jay will forget to thank all his guests and just be bopping stage left ignoring his guests...Prince is going to look super sharp...he's going to reclaim his badness and show all the silly non-funky knuckle head brothers (and sisters) that the Madhouse Funk is ALIVE!



Oowwahh!

wellbeyond said:

Well(beyond), maybe you know this because you've actually received your CD...some of us are still waiting!

But even so, I'd always rather hear a new Prince groove than something that by now is been-there-done-that. That jazz-tinged take on Dorothy Parker was a very pleasant surprise last time.

Oh, & anyone who hears the song on Leno & wants to own it can simply burn a CD from the video recording & save themselves the $50!

mediadarling said:

The overwhelming majority of the viewing audience will most definitely be hearing a "new Prince groove", though...besides, TRC is only a year old...I highly doubt any other artist would be slammed for performing a song from their last album which has been out for just around a year...U2 does it constantly...


Wasn't it??..lol I loved that take...loved watching him perform it, too...then again, Dorothy Parker was about 15 years old when he performed it, and I loved it because of the musicianship and the arrangment...no reason why "Everlasting Now" wouldn't be enjoyed for the same reasons...


1) You assume that everyone who hears it will be recording it to videotape...

2) You assume that everyone who hears it will have the means to transfer the audio from the tape into digital form...

3) You assume that everyone who hears it will have a CD burner...

4) You assume that everyone who hears it and wants it won't want to hear even more stuff like it...

5) You assume that everyone who hears it won't want a crisp, clean, perfect version of it, produced and mastered to perfection...

CmputrBlu said:

Sorry to bust your bubble ComptrBlu, but I didn't take my cue from Prince on this. This is old news to some of us but it's still in need of telling to set the record as straight as possible. So I'm glad Prince told/is telling truth on the matter of Lincoln.
The song is based on a direct quote from Lincoln, himself.

September 1858-"I will say then, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races; that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people. . . . And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race." -- Yes, that is a direct quote from Abe himself. Sound familiar? This is not "Prince B.S.''. He turned Lincoln's own words into a song. And he flashed on the screen during the concert tour.

Doesn't sound like the "hero'' he is so strongly made out to be in our history books and classrooms. The truth is much uglier than that.

FlyingCloudPassenger said:

He better!
Prince got hardly any radio play back in the days because he was too vulgar. Now he gets no radio play because he's too boring.

blackwell1 said:

Let's try this again shall we?

I don't question what Lincoln said..yes he did say that. But to sum up the man's feelings based on that one quote ignores anything else he may have said on the subject. Which either implies Prince (and everyone else who wants to point to that quote) doesn't KNOW what else Lincoln said on the subject..or doesn't care. In Prince's case I figure he doesn't know any better. He read a book (and we know which book because he mentions the book in the concert program); and decided he had to write a song about it. I might as well judge Prince by the shittiest song he's ever done and debate with you guys that Prince sux because of it. Oh the outrage that would create here. But it's OK if Prince makes blanket statements about people.

Anyway sorry I even brought this subject up took this topic down this road. No point arguing against Prince here. Back to the music. Even if I do think he should be playing something else that nite. Of course this is the same guy who, when he showed up on Letterman, decided to play "Dolphin"!!! Ugghh
[This message was edited Mon Dec 9 20:29:25 PST 2002 by CmputrBlu]

ronnie said:

Hardly. He gets no radio play because nobody is paying radio stations boatloads of cash to play independent music. That's what major labels do.

Prince fans thrown into a hypocritical, whining tizzy because they don't like his choice of which song to play on a national tv show, and think it will offend people. As if this is the first time Prince has risked offending people on tv with his music.

Challenge your audience, Prince, challenge your audience!