After reading all this complaining I dont know what 2 say - My first reaction when reading the Headline was
Wooo Hooo !!!

I'm excited & I can't wait 2 get the CD set. I am still a proud member of NPGMC & it was well worth paying $100 in my eyes because we had PRIME seating at the concert as well as sound check access & after show - there is NO price you can put on that. If you chose NOT 2 attend a concert - how the hell can you blame anyone but yourself!!

Well anyways - I'm happy, I can't wait 2 receive the CD set - I think it's the most awesome thing Prince has done and I think we should ALL be appreciative instead of bitching & whining like a bunch of ungrateful kids !!!

& that's all I have 2 say about that...

I LOVE YOU PRINCE - bring on the muzik !!!

Joshy84au said:

As I stated in another thread, if someone said they went to the store and bought 3 CDs, naturally, their friend is going to say, "Which ones did you buy?" He's not going to turn around and say Emancipation!!! 3 CDs imply 3 different, separate projects. And no matter how much you want to debate the semantics of the English language, we all know this is what is normally thought of! If I went out and bought SOTT, I'm not going to say I bought 2 CDs. And no one else here would say that either, including Prince and probably yourself.

And seeing as how no one in the industry (including Prince) uses the term "album" anymore, why would I distinguish between the two ("Oh, he said 4 albums not CDs, so that means 4 separate projects!")? Give me a break. There's no defense for this, so please stop trying. All we're doing is airing our gripes about this so called club!

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holy crap, what rock have you been hiding under? the club ENDS on 12/31/02...if you don't believe me, look on the club's page, or e-mail them...if they bother responding, they'll confirm that this year is over in slightly over a month...and according to best buy, the ONA live set goes to retail on dec. 17. considering that set hasn't even been mailed out to club members yet (which based on the 3-4 week period it has taken for me to receive anything else from the club AFTER they say it's shipped), i think it's fairly reasonable to assume we won't be getting anything else. jeez, at this point even if they PROMISED something else, i wouldn't believe them. they have NEVER given us ANYthing but thet absolute bare minimum...

alandail said:

Anyone who thinks that this live set is going to do well commercially must be smoking the wacky weed. The average consumer isn't going to want this any more than they wanted TRC.

mediadarling said:

The club never offered any "exclusive" CDs, only that members would get them first. It may have been implied that only members would get them but it left open the possibility that they would be available to non members thereafter.

Nor was the promise ever made of "new" music in the sense of songs never heard before. New in terms of format (first time on cd, first time live, etc.), but not "new music" per se.

If the cds arrive to members before they hit retail, at its very basic level, the club has provided what it promised. To the letter of the law, maybe not to the spirit, but to the letter.

Nobody's said this is the end of the club - once P gets back from Japan, maybe he'll sort us another CD?

(Someone mentioned 8 remixes of Silicon... lets hope for something a little better, I can't imagine it's worth the cost of postage for the club just mailing us a CD of Silicon x 8??)

I hope it goes to retail, and sells well, and people like it. If P can whip up some publicity - who knows, maybe even a "proper" single or something??? - then the album deserves to do OK.

I can't wait!!! Anyone know how long before Europe gets stuff mailed from the NPGMC (eg ONA)??

LavenderTapestryTour said:

oh please. if you want to join fine then join, but if you don't then don't, but don't seat around and tell members that they should be mad because it is going to retail. I am a member and I am no mad at all, and it not princes fault that you didn't go to the concert. when you join the club you have to make sure, that you have the money to take advantage of all the perks. if you live in a town were he doesn't really come to then do join what is the big deal. I guess it like the saying goes you can please some of the people.

I am a 2 year club member with nothing to complain about. This years membership was worth more than $100 if you attended the concerts.

Great! $50.00, right? plus tax?
8% where I live equals $54.00...
Let's see...$100-$54= $46

One Nite Alone (piano CD)...$12.99 plus tax =$14.03
(in reality, worth much more since it has not gone retail...yet)

$46.00-$14.03= $31.97

Days O' Wild $5.00 plus tax $5.40 (free at celly)

$31.97-$5.40= $26.57

I won't count the $7.00 for the movie
I also will not figure in shipping and handling (although I probably should)

Sooo, right now as it stands,
My membership costs $26.57 for the year.

Now I will wait for further loot.
If there is a DVD...whoa!

What I have posted here has nothing to do with my real feelings
about club membership...just tallying...for the sake of tallying.
(running and hiding from other clubmembers)

NuPwrSoul said:

As a matter of fact, the word "exclusive" was use in more than one of their promotional statements. And I'm sorry, but to most rational individuals, the term "exclusivity," implies a duration of time that will lasts more than a week. If it hadn't, what exactly would the benefit be to join this sorry excuse for a "club?" So it "left open the possibility," did it? Convenient for Prince...

My goodness, you're a bit of a sheep, aren't you? True, there was never any clear indication of what exactly would be "new" about this Prince music, but get real! Half of the first release, continuing members already had. That it was now "new" on CD is a ridiculously pathetic consolation. Would you have paid $100 for 4 Chaos & Disorder, Come, Prince & For You if Prince had simply switched the titles of the four of them & shuffled the track order? I'm sure you would, because by your extraordinarily loose & accomodating interpretation of the word "new," such a release would fit well within Prince's sphere of righteousness.

You're likely to counter with some inane babble about how the presale tickets are whatever made it more than worth the $100. For who? This club promised four exclusive CDs of new Prince music - the only other "privilege" of being a member was the chance to blow even more money on Prince!

In fact, your entire post, especially the last bit of rambling about the club's meeting its agreement "to the letter" of the law speaks of someone sadly very deseprate to defend this guy. Shouldn't a club that yaps on & on about "family" & other togetherness, peace & love stuff be more interested in fulfilling "the spirit of the law?" Yet, I suppose in your eyes, any transgression is excusable - as long as it's Prince? Next year, I'll keep my $100...in the "spirit" of saving money.

NuPwrSoul said:

As a matter of fact, the word "exclusive" was use in more than one of their promotional statements. And I'm sorry, but to most rational individuals, the term "exclusivity," implies a duration of time that will lasts more than a week. If it hadn't, what exactly would the benefit be to join this sorry excuse for a "club?" So it "left open the possibility," did it? Convenient for Prince...

My goodness, you're a bit of a sheep, aren't you? True, there was never any clear indication of what exactly would be "new" about this Prince music, but get real! Half of the first release, continuing members already had. That it was now "new" on CD is a ridiculously pathetic consolation. Would you have paid $100 for 4 Chaos & Disorder, Come, Prince & For You if Prince had simply switched the titles of the four of them & shuffled the track order? I'm sure you would, because by your extraordinarily loose & accomodating interpretation of the word "new," such a release would fit well within Prince's sphere of righteousness.

You're likely to counter with some inane babble about how the presale tickets are whatever made it more than worth the $100. For who? This club promised four exclusive CDs of new Prince music - the only other "privilege" of being a member was the chance to blow even more money on Prince!

In fact, your entire post, especially the last bit of rambling about the club's meeting its agreement "to the letter" of the law speaks of someone sadly very deseprate to defend this guy. Shouldn't a club that yaps on & on about "family" & other togetherness, peace & love stuff be more interested in fulfilling "the spirit of the law?" Yet, I suppose in your eyes, any transgression is excusable - as long as it's Prince? Next year, I'll keep my $100...in the "spirit" of saving money.

I got this flyer from my friend who runs a distribution company here in Canada. Oh ya - it'll be in stores alright.

mediadarling said:

I have to agree. This 'live' box set is only a treat to us, true Prince fans and not to the average consumers. Additionally, many of the trax have been realease already (but not 'live'). Furthermore, who will be willing to dish out that much cash for it... perhaps, only fans.

I've said this before and I'll say it again. For Prince to do well commercially, he needs to come up with some "top 40" shit that the average listener would like. Ask any person, who states to you that they like Prince, what trax they like and they will mention the same ol' stuff... when doves cry, purple rain and the like. Until he does something catchy, he wont get radio play.

ronnie said:

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Echo say:

I believe that people that have witnessed Prince for
the first time at the ONA concerts, will very much
want to get this live box set, and/or want to join the
club.

I agree that this LIVE BOX SET, and brilliant
ONE I might add, is a real treat for his die-hard
FAMS.

If you join the club and can't take advantage of the
perks of the soundchecks, the front row seats, and
the after partees, well that is NOT the fault of Prince,
ONE just can't get to go. So - with that in mind, and for
me, I'm lovin the idea of this LIVE set. -
I've said this all before!

For those of you who have taken advantage of the perks,
you get to RELIVE the concerts through the LIVE box set.

For those who imply that we have been "bamboozled", I
don't know what your Xpectations are, but, for $100,
I think we have been taken care of. Some people
spend that alone on a concert. Not to mention
the other expenses that go along with their trips,
that some can afford, and go to how
many concerts???

Oh - did I forget to mention the CELEBRATION!
I wasn't there either, so, I'm really lookin forward to getting this LIVE box set.

The other issue is bootlegging, I never have done that
either, so I enjoy hearing many tunes yet to come.

If Prince does care about "hittin the main stream",
well, I think that TRC has some tunes right there
that would make it.

1+1+1=3 - great dance tune
Everlasting Now - beautiful
Last December - love this one
Mellow - it's simply just that

TRC grows on you, it's a cd that you
have to listen to over and over again.
There is alot of info there.

The ONA LIVE set - has many possible hits
as well that "main-stream" would like.

So COME-ON radio - we want to hear some.
I've requested Last December before!

Yet another point, that I think is COOL, is that we
are supporting an Artists rights to freedom of his
REAL music, along with the rest of the NPG musicians.

PEACE :F:


[This message was edited Mon Nov 25 8:02:57 PST 2002 by EchoOfMySoul]

The concerts and the celebration were not free perks of the club. People paid big bucks to attend them in addition to the NPGMC $100 fee. If you took part in all of NPGMC's activities this year you would have shelled out several hundred dollars to Prince in addition to travel expenses. He's not doing us any gracious favors with NPGMC, he's collecting plenty of money off of his fans. The lack of communication, waiting till the last minute to send the CDs, misleading description of exactly what the club was offering this year (which conveniently changed a couple months into it), delayed shipping, old content from year 1, a retail section thats seldomly updated and frequently out of stock, etc, are all bad business.

To some of us the club is not worth it any more if music that we were led to believe would be exclusive is now about to hit retail. People argue that the members will still at least get the music first, but how much sooner are we really going to get it when it hits the shelves in a month and ours havent even been sent out yet? A whole stinking week? I could have paid bills with the 100 bucks and waited till Dec to just go pick it up in the store.

Yet another disappointment from the NPGMC.

I emailed the NPGMC a while back, I think it was the first year and asked if they will be coming to my area. They said the club was strictly for the MUSIC and preferred seating was a PERK. So I think it sucks that they are doing this. Ah whatever. I wasn't able to go to the Celebration and he never toured my area so I got the shaft. I'll deal with it this time around and just not join next year.

Prince should stick to making music and touring and cut out the business bullshit, he's terrible at it.