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Reply #30 posted 09/06/02 4:42pm

ZaZa

If you look at the NPGMC message at the end of August all the clues are there. Members will be served first...the public will be serviced at a later date. Nowhere was it ever said the live cds would be part of the membership package of pre-paid cds.
I just wonder if the 3 cd version will only be available on the NPGMC site & the 2 cd version will be what is sold in stores. That was his idea with RAVE - one version for stores with a special alternate version available thru his site. But he couldn't pull it off that time - maybe this time he will. Because what would be the enticement to order the cds thru the mail when the mailing costs have been a little pricey in the past unlees what you get thru the mail is different then what you buy in the stores. Or maybe it will be the 3 cd set with something extra.
Can't wait to find out!
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Reply #31 posted 09/06/02 5:10pm

honestnotes

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i love the xenophobia BOOT .


honest .
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Reply #32 posted 09/06/02 5:43pm

Paisley

Us members shouldn't have 2 pay 4 the box set and dvd that should b a part of the membership, that's BULLSHIT!!!
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Reply #33 posted 09/06/02 5:57pm

peterv

no disrespect to frossty, but you can't take any of this too seriously. information like this floats through the biz quite regularly. if we all look at this logically, we might be able to predict what is in store for us...

when the word got out to the press about a live album by prince, a buzz was created. this happens because reporters need something to talk about. they get the story, print it and create this buzz...

now following these momentary hypes, other folks start having lightbulbs go off over their heads. ways they can cash in on this new idea, and in turn, make it something that it wasn't meant to be in the first place... in short, they have delusions of grandeur.

i think, that if prince were to step back and really look at the prospect of trying to sell this live cd to a mass market, he would reconsider. don't get me wrong. i think the cd is gonna be da bomb, but i don't think that this was the tour that the rest of world will rush to buy...

and that's too bad, cause the ona tour was great!!! unfortunately, it was a "jukebox with a heartbeat". this was great for those who appreciate the good stuff, but the average public is so far gone that i doubt they would notice...

so, where does that put us now? back to the buzz. i feel that prince should just send this cd to club members as a PART of the remaining year. (he needs to keep the npgmc happy). that would also keep the journalists writing about all the great "groudbreaking" things he's accomplishing with the club and in terms of how he gets his music out. this would be way more beneficial to him and also, the buzz would remain...

then, he should sell the rest. i'm sure that there is a company out there that would put it out, even if only in limited supply. if the current company considering distribution is so concerned that we members are the only guaranteed buyers, then what's the point in releasing it to the public...

by sending us the cd, it would also show the rest of the world that his club does work. he'd still make a little cash on the deal (probably only a little less than if we all had buy it), the npgmc would remain in tact, and he'd be free to move on to other endeavors...
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Reply #34 posted 09/06/02 6:15pm

Revolution

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Paisley said:

Us members shouldn't have 2 pay 4 the box set and dvd that should b a part of the membership, that's BULLSHIT!!!


Huh???
Prince has to make money too! He can't just "give" away
his product...that was his whole fight with WB's.
As a member, u are entitled to 4 CD's this year...
nothing else. Those CD's have been done for awhile, just
waiting on the delivery.
The box set and DVD are entirely different products, which
I am happy to purchase seperately.
Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind.
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Reply #35 posted 09/06/02 6:34pm

Sdldawn

xpsiter said:

Sdldawn said:

Ok, here is what he SHOULD do


Send One Nite Alone Live! to all npgmc members, as apart of their membership, a bonus, a Thank 4 u bein my fans, eye know u put me where eye am, so here, have a gift. sorry 4 the wait, a wasnt it worth it?

Next.. In November.. around the end, make it around christmas time.. Release XENOPHOBIA 3cd set.

1 cd being the actuall STUDIO xenophobia jazz instrumental cd. the other 2 being the best cuts from the celebration (sorry fans, u can forget getting some 7 or 12 cd set of the celebration.. if u wanted 2 hear the celebration, u should have gotten ure ass up and went)
and add a extra dvd if u want, no biggie..


so go and get started on all this prince..



Well, said. Have you put in your application for running the NPGMC? smile Seriously, this is an ideal method for getting all this off the ground and into my cd changer.


no, they rejected my application because they said the idea sounded too easy 2 pull off wink

when eye sent the application.. they got their automated letters mixed up and they sent me some BS about checking my doorstep soon.. smile
[This message was edited Fri Sep 6 11:36:06 PDT 2002 by Sdldawn]
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Reply #36 posted 09/06/02 8:04pm

buttcheeks

If Prince is going to keep what he has then he needs to make some real cash. Obviously he does not have enough NPGMC Members to go a year without getting paid. I think the Hit & Run Tour and The Rainbow Children Tour helped keep the cash flow going. HE NEEDS A RECORD COMPANY to promote a live album and make the money he should be making. Otherwise I imagine his overhead is way too much to handle. Look a P Puff Diddy Daddy and others who have much bigger bank and much less talent.
Now that Prince has come to terms with what he can and cannot do as a free artist, I support whatever he does in the future.
After the Crystal Ball Pre-Order Experience I was not about to join the NPGMC. And you know what? I may not of had the exclusive music of NPGMC as quick, but I got it free from downloading it off the NET.
If a new Prince Album is available in the Record Stores I always buy it. CD and LP vinyl copy. Even if I can get it free off the net.
Prince needs to Release recordings through record companies with great non-stop promo agreements and Forget the Music Club as it is now.
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Reply #37 posted 09/06/02 8:23pm

rio

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not sure how this ended up in the 'news' section...i don't see that it has any basis in fact at all...ah well...

..as for not being able to give away any of it as downloads, what then was '1+1+1=3' then?
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Reply #38 posted 09/06/02 8:24pm

rio

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..oh, and it appears our reliable source 'frossty' joined just to submit this 'news...' he/she has never posted before...
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Reply #39 posted 09/06/02 9:13pm

ThirdStrike

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...Not only that, but if you remember...in the email from the NPGMC, they advised "...to check your email box, and your doorstep real soon" in regards to the "ONA...LIVE!" set. Don't believe this shit... we will as members get at least that set sent to us without additional charges.

And, as far as calling it "free"...I seem to remember sending them $100.00, so nothing is free with them.

And, just a side note...he did promise "at least 4 CD's" as part of the membership. This agreement is not for only 3 more after "One Nite Alone" piano CD, but at the very least 3 more. It could, and probably will, be more then that.

Just my 2 cents...

Strike
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Reply #40 posted 09/06/02 10:01pm

FlyingCloudPas
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frossty said:

I know there's some confusion RE: Muti-disc Live album / Xenaphobia

MEMBERS wil have chance to BUY CD's 1 or 2 weeks in advance of the rest of the world.

cuz' Prince has negotiated with record company for Distribution - terms of contract meant he had to offer them EXCLUSIVE content. so, he cannot of given away free downloads of any of it. (Why would ANY record co. pay for something he's giving away for free...?? Especially as any MEMBERS are obviously hard-core fans who the said record co. can GUARANTEE sales to...!!!).

It's in final stages, so it's definetley happening. Artwork and packaging to be chosen, by Prince in next 2 weeks. Then it's all go.

3 discs are expected, plus DVD. Early November release.

(I work at record company involved, before i'm flamed.)

thanx for your time.


This seems bogus to me and I DON'T BELIVE a word of it.

I don't care if this person works for a record involved, it's all bullshit UNLESS I hear it STRAIGHT from NPGMusicClub. Period.

You remind me of a friend I HAD who always shared this "in the know" info or "latest news" or "the real deal" and it was always bullshit. Just to draw attention, create a buzz, etc. Stupid.

I'm not going to get angry or impatient with NPGMC, the album set will arrive soon I'm sure, but there are just a few things I hope and wonder about.

One, I HOPE Prince really chooses good artwork and packaging! No more Parke, he's worn out!

Two, yeah, by now I should have recieved another album. That's kind of starting to bother me. Like there was no plan set forth or dates for things to eventually come out. Just vagueness.

I guess it may all be just cool later, but, I'm not going to be patient and just wait, unless the year runs out and I DON'T HAVE what I PAID FOR!!!




~*~
[This message was edited Fri Sep 6 15:04:03 PDT 2002 by FlyingCloudPassenger]
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Reply #41 posted 09/06/02 10:05pm

ZaZa

rio said:

not sure how this ended up in the 'news' section...i don't see that it has any basis in fact at all...ah well...

You are so right - this may be completely bogus. Its more rumournews.

..as for not being able to give away any of it as downloads, what then was '1+1+1=3' then?

I believe that download is from a different concert version of 1+1+1=3 so its not a duplication of the upcoming cd set.
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Reply #42 posted 09/06/02 11:09pm

mediadarling

rio said:

..oh, and it appears our reliable source 'frossty' joined just to submit this 'news...' he/she has never posted before...


Doesn't it take almost a week to have your account registered now? Then again, you're right - this isn't just incoherent & contradictory, & is just plain non-informative.
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Reply #43 posted 09/07/02 5:25am

Paisley

Revolution said:

Paisley said:

Us members shouldn't have 2 pay 4 the box set and dvd that should b a part of the membership, that's BULLSHIT!!!


Huh???
Prince has to make money too! He can't just "give" away
his product...that was his whole fight with WB's.
As a member, u are entitled to 4 CD's this year...
nothing else. Those CD's have been done for awhile, just
waiting on the delivery.
The box set and DVD are entirely different products, which
I am happy to purchase seperately.

Yeah eye agree he still wants 2 make money well he will eye'm sure other people will buy the cd's not just the members, as far as the 4 cd's were suppose 2 receive well where r they? only gotten one so far!
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Reply #44 posted 09/07/02 7:29am

talk2thejay

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eye wonder why frossty still hasn´t replied 2 our posts...
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Reply #45 posted 09/08/02 9:49am

TheEnglishGent

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I was just wondering if anyone has seen this yet?

http://www.npgmusicclub.c...-live.html
RIP sad
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Reply #46 posted 09/08/02 12:59pm

JeePee

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EllisDee said:

calldapplwondery83 said:

Again, I'm not sweating any of this, I just think this "information" is as fuzzy as that friggin' coat P's wearing on the inner sleeve of Rave...


Right. I really don't know if this is true, because... "two weeks in advance"? That's nothing. A DVD? Unlikely.

We'll see.



yeah, i'm not sure that i believe this either... because in order for us to have the opportunity to purchase this "two weeks in advance," there would have to be some sort of mail order through the npgmusicclub...

i have ordered things from them in the past, and i'm not so certain that i would be getting my cd before it would in the store... there's no way in hell they'd have those cds out in 2 weeks... so, i would have had the option to buy it first, and i would have actually bought it first, but i would be waiting a little bit longer before i actually had it...
i dunno... err


I ordered the DOW single and got it 5 days later, and I live in Europe. So maybe they finally got their act together and figured out how to ship fast. But then again, maybe it was a one-off.
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Reply #47 posted 09/08/02 1:00pm

rio

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mediadarling said:

rio said:

..oh, and it appears our reliable source 'frossty' joined just to submit this 'news...' he/she has never posted before...


Doesn't it take almost a week to have your account registered now? Then again, you're right - this isn't just incoherent & contradictory, & is just plain non-informative.

well..it was a little more than 5 days since they opened the account...like a week i guess...

some people will go to great lengths to get stuff stirred...wink
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Reply #48 posted 09/08/02 4:28pm

EchoOfMySoul

talk2thejay said:

eye wonder why frossty still hasn´t replied 2 our posts...


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hmmm - me to ! ? !

Please Frossty - answer ! ? !
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[This message was edited Sun Sep 8 9:30:49 PDT 2002 by EchoOfMySoul]
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Reply #49 posted 09/08/02 6:46pm

Sdldawn

well eye'm ready 4 something.. its about dat time:)
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Reply #50 posted 09/10/02 1:00am

pimpytheclown

PRINCE FANS:


The official Prince NPGMC release statement calls the live album "ONE NITE ALONE LIVE".

Why believe a message that gets the album title WRONG for starters? Where is the sense in calling the live "ONE NITE ALONE" tour recording "XENOPHOBIA", especially when another album called "Xenophobia" is in the pipeline?

Someone/anyone can come along on this site I have noticed and post sketchy info and claim to be an "INSIDER".

If you do so, HAVE THE BALLS to state what record company you work for! DO NOT BE A COWARD and waste my time.

Too many of you are so gullible that anybody can post ANYTHING and some of you go bananas with speculation. DO NOT BE MANIPULATED BY PEOPLE WHO GET OFF ON LIES.

2) NPGME MEMBERS:

Are YOU PEOPLE FOR REAL!?!?!


EVERY TIME Prince announces anything you all feel NPGMC members should get way beyond what you were promised. Prince announces a 3 cd live set:YOU EXPECT on BONUS discs EXCLUSIVELY for "members"! DVD's EXCLUSIVELY for members; the live set for free in addition for the four cd's you were promised; a "bonus"!

GET REAL you greedy pigs.
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Reply #51 posted 09/10/02 2:25am

EchoOfMySoul

pimpytheclown said:

PRINCE FANS:


The official Prince NPGMC release statement calls the live album "ONE NITE ALONE LIVE".

Why believe a message that gets the album title WRONG for starters? Where is the sense in calling the live "ONE NITE ALONE" tour recording "XENOPHOBIA", especially when another album called "Xenophobia" is in the pipeline?

Someone/anyone can come along on this site I have noticed and post sketchy info and claim to be an "INSIDER".

If you do so, HAVE THE BALLS to state what record company you work for! DO NOT BE A COWARD and waste my time.

Too many of you are so gullible that anybody can post ANYTHING and some of you go bananas with speculation. DO NOT BE MANIPULATED BY PEOPLE WHO GET OFF ON LIES.

2) NPGME MEMBERS:

Are YOU PEOPLE FOR REAL!?!?!


EVERY TIME Prince announces anything you all feel NPGMC members should get way beyond what you were promised. Prince announces a 3 cd live set:YOU EXPECT on BONUS discs EXCLUSIVELY for "members"! DVD's EXCLUSIVELY for members; the live set for free in addition for the four cd's you were promised; a "bonus"!

GET REAL you greedy pigs.

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My, My, My, what a tone...There certainly isn't
anything wrong with asking questions to the person
who is responsible for this thread? Or - for that matter,to anyone else who might know.

It isn't what we expect that is the issue here, it's the message here we are trying to figure out.
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Reply #52 posted 09/10/02 3:30am

ZaZa

EchoOfMySoul said:

My, My, My, what a tone...There certainly isn't anything wrong with asking questions to the person who is responsible for this thread? Or - for that matter,to anyone else who might know.


Right on!!!
Some people think speculation is a SIN!!
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Reply #53 posted 09/10/02 7:12am

TheKid

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so, he cannot of given away free downloads of any of it. (Why would ANY record co. pay for something he's giving away for free...??


??? Since when is Prince GIVING AWAY cd's. I thought we paid $100,- for (min.) 4 cd's. That means we're not getting it for free, but are paying for it... so, what's the problem.

Besides, why would any of us order a cd from NPGMC a few weeks prior to the worldwide releasedate and pay $15,- shipping ($0,- shipping via a cd-shop)??

Just a thought.


Peace,
The Kid



Life's what u make it, stop whining baby
Love comes 2 those who care...


Prince - A Place In Heaven
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Reply #54 posted 09/10/02 1:08pm

herbthe4

I read this whole thread and no one mentioned whether they asked the club for confirmation or denial on the news.

I did.

If they respond with an answer, I'll post it...
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Reply #55 posted 09/10/02 2:52pm

aiden

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I nearly became a member of the NPGMC but I was worried that this sort of thing may happen. "One Nite Alone" is fantastic, got it the 1st week of circulation. Rainbow Children £9.99 the week it came out in U.S (why join?)

Until I hear good reports I'm not going 2 "become a member of the N.PG" Even though I have bought over 100 official c.d's from my favourite musical artist.

Xenophobia sounds like a 3 disc set 2 keep a promise, although maybe I'm just having a bad day at work... No, I am looking forward 2 it... I can't see this set being released as well as 3 other albums.

Prince must get tired 2...

Even if Xenophobia is released in the shops they won't be our shops (England). Just like sun the rainbow children forgot 2 be released in the U.K (warner bros were good to the fans)
"Still Crazy 4 Coco Rock"
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Reply #56 posted 09/11/02 6:46am

CynthiaRose333

Poor Frossty...
He was scared to even respond to us!

There is so much animosity towards the
NPG Music Club from some of these posts.
Is it all because of Frossty's post?
This is information that none of us knows the truth about.

How did these gripes about not receiving
our 4 CD's for joining a YEAR long club start?
Is 9/11 wigging you all out!

Be patient.
The year is not over.

They teased us with the NPG Music Club e-mails
to get us excited, not irritated!

I am completely satisfied with my NPG Membership.
They have never let me down!
I miss the monthly downloads.
Especially the Ahdio shows.
But I love the guaranteed great seats at shows,
and afterparties!

Write to THEM if you have problems with the club.
We are supporting an Artist who CARES.
He wouldn't want to wait long for shipping either.

This year's Celebration was Amazing!
Bask in the glow.
And be excited about the things to come!
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Reply #57 posted 09/11/02 7:41am

bumpsquad

Don't U think it's really strange that Prince launchs a European Tour B4 releasing this long-awaited Live CD set ?

If the Tour dates rumours are true, the guy really didn't understand anything in marketing/advertising...
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Reply #58 posted 09/11/02 10:41am

udo

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JeePee said:


I ordered the DOW single and got it 5 days later, and I live in Europe. So maybe they finally got their act together and figured out how to ship fast. But then again, maybe it was a one-off.

FWIW: Also my DOW was in the mailbox pretty fast...

udo
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #59 posted 09/11/02 1:39pm

herbthe4

I asked the club about this and got this response:

"Hello

This did not come from us and is there4 speculation and rumor. Only Prince knows 4 sure and he speaks thru us when he feels the time is right."

FWIW...
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