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LaMont

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Prince clones reunion pt 2

Prince clones reunion

I am thinking of coorniating a Prince clone reunion. Mostly old school but DAngelo can come. Heres the short list. Feel free to add LEGITMATE clones from any Prince era. Prince clone is defined by any rip off of the Prince sound or look.


Ready for the World
Georgio
Micki Free
Barkays (they actually ripped off everybody that was funky)
Xavier
Rick James (check out the video for a song named Glow)
O Bryan
Mazarati (even though they were a Paisley Park act)
Jesse Johnson (I'm his no. 1 fan but the first couple albums was all Prince)


I also have to add Tony Rich - the most original clone. He actually has a signature symbol and uses r for are and u for you as Prince does. Very similar vocal arrangements and a multi instrumentalist as well.

How did I forget Terence Trent Darby - the best Prince clone. He is still naking good music and he has made a rebellious stance against the industry just like Prince. Everyone remembers in the 80s when he was heralded as thhhe new Prince. He's bad and probably the only one that gives a live show that could even come close to Prince. His WildCard album is probably the most brilliant album that no one has heard this side of The Rainbow Children. Just for a minute, put down the low class sex driven soft porn pop for the likes of Beyonce and most rappers and seek this out.
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Reply #1 posted 09/06/03 9:51am

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Xavier? The band that did the song "Work That Sucka To Death"? How were THEY Prince clones? There was NOTHING in that song that was even remotely Prince-like. Rick James has been around as long as Prince has. Get ya facts straight.

Tony Rich? Since WHEN was being a multi-instrumentalist being a Prince clone? Was Prince the first multi-instrumentalist EVER? Impressive. Not only were you able to display a level of "Princitivity" well beyond that of the normal ranting fan, but you also simultaneously insulted THOUSANDS, maybe MILLIONS of composers, band teachers, orchestra players, etc. I hope you're proud of yourself.

[This message was edited Sat Sep 6 10:06:19 PDT 2003 by BlaqueKnight]
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Reply #2 posted 09/06/03 11:40am

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[color=blue:2c41cec6b9:50d66851f0]Xavier? The band that did the song "Work That Sucka To Death"? How were THEY Prince clones? There was NOTHING in that song that was even remotely Prince-like. Rick James has been around as long as Prince has. Get ya facts straight.

Tony Rich? Since WHEN was being a multi-instrumentalist being a Prince clone? Was Prince the first multi-instrumentalist EVER? Impressive. Not only were you able to display a level of "Princitivity" well beyond that of the normal ranting fan, but you also simultaneously insulted THOUSANDS, maybe MILLIONS of composers, band teachers, orchestra players, etc. I hope you're proud of yourself.

[This message was edited Sat Sep 6 10:06:19 PDT 2003 by BlaqueKnight]
Rick James was around since the late 60's.Original Member of Crosby,Nash&Young.they recorded a Album's worth for Motown that still sits in the Vault.go to E-bay&you might find Rick's "White Cane" Album project from 1972.great point on Tony Rich Blaque. Stevie WOnder,Junie Morrison,Jimi Hendrix,Ernie Isley,Rick James,etc.. among others were doing the One Man Band thing.
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Reply #3 posted 09/06/03 7:45pm

LaMont

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[color=blue:2c41cec6b9:6f7b46a2b0:66f53b5b64:1984924d79:74f769dea9:9421af55eb]Xavier? The band that did the song "Work That Sucka To Death"? How were THEY Prince clones? There was NOTHING in that song that was even remotely Prince-like. Rick James has been around as long as Prince has. Get ya facts straight.

Tony Rich? Since WHEN was being a multi-instrumentalist being a Prince clone? Was Prince the first multi-instrumentalist EVER? Impressive. Not only were you able to display a level of "Princitivity" well beyond that of the normal ranting fan, but you also simultaneously insulted THOUSANDS, maybe MILLIONS of composers, band teachers, orchestra players, etc. I hope you're proud of yourself.

[This message was edited Sat Sep 6 10:06:19 PDT 2003 by BlaqueKnight]



Xavier is a solo R&B singer/musician from LA.

The following can be found on allmusic.com:

Xavier is a one-man music machine from L.A. reminiscent of Sly Stone and Prince. His first album, X Factor, finds him producing and playing his own funkafied R&B. — Jonathan Ball

If you read my entire Tony Rich post and had all of Rich's work as I do, you might see the similarities I pointed out. Here again, do some research and see how many times comparisons to Prince come up regarding Tony Rich.

THe following can be found at allmusic.com as well:

Tony Rich's debut album didn't quite fit in with the rigid format of '90s urban R&B. Instead of relying on hip-hop as his foundation, Rich takes elements from soul, blues, pop, and rock, creating a personal brand of new jack R&B. Like Prince, he synthesizes these elements into a distinctive whole. Unlike Prince, his influences are more apparent on the surface, but perhaps that should be expected from a debut. Like many first records, the songs aren't always first-rate, but the best tracks on Words stand head and shoulders above much of Rich's competition. What makes Words work is Tony Rich's audacity and his talent — he ties together disparate influences with his melodic, soulful songwriting, forming a fresh sound that breathes new life into '90s urban R&B. — Stephen Thomas Erlewine

These are just a few references to Prince by music critics discussing these artists. Do they have "Princitivity" well beyond that of the normal ranting fan as well?

I have my own opinions from having an intimate knowledge - and the actual CDs - of these artists' work and I expressed it in a light hearted post for other fans.

I am proud of myself because my shit mnakes sense and is substaniated. Now blow the smoke off your punk ass and come back correct. I was buying records when you were still swimming around in your daddy's nutsack.

A mind is a terrible thang to waste...
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Reply #4 posted 09/06/03 7:59pm

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mistermaxxx said:

BlaqueKnight said:

[color=blue:2c41cec6b9:50d66851f0:1ec4dca08e]Xavier? The band that did the song "Work That Sucka To Death"? How were THEY Prince clones? There was NOTHING in that song that was even remotely Prince-like. Rick James has been around as long as Prince has. Get ya facts straight.

Tony Rich? Since WHEN was being a multi-instrumentalist being a Prince clone? Was Prince the first multi-instrumentalist EVER? Impressive. Not only were you able to display a level of "Princitivity" well beyond that of the normal ranting fan, but you also simultaneously insulted THOUSANDS, maybe MILLIONS of composers, band teachers, orchestra players, etc. I hope you're proud of yourself.

[This message was edited Sat Sep 6 10:06:19 PDT 2003 by BlaqueKnight]
Rick James was around since the late 60's.Original Member of Crosby,Nash&Young.they recorded a Album's worth for Motown that still sits in the Vault.go to E-bay&you might find Rick's "White Cane" Album project from 1972.great point on Tony Rich Blaque. Stevie WOnder,Junie Morrison,Jimi Hendrix,Ernie Isley,Rick James,etc.. among others were doing the One Man Band thing.



I have that White Cane album (1971) and its great. Find it if you can. Its some of Rick's most original work. Rick did go on to borrow heavily from Prince in the late 80s - at least the look was blatantly copied in the GLow video.
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Reply #5 posted 09/06/03 9:42pm

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Lamont, You big dummy!
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Reply #6 posted 09/06/03 10:24pm

4nowneway

forgot Maxwell, he trys to sound like P and look like Lenny Kravitz.
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Reply #7 posted 09/07/03 6:41am

LaMont

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Lamont, You big dummy!
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Wow, this punk couldnt even come up with an original comeback - let alone be man enough to admit how little he knew before shooting off his mouth in the first place.
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Reply #8 posted 09/07/03 6:42am

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4nowneway said:

forgot Maxwell, he trys to sound like P and look like Lenny Kravitz.


Damn, I sure did. He is probably the foremost Prince clone right now! That is a great ovservation about him looking like Lenny.
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Reply #9 posted 09/07/03 9:06am

mistermaxxx

LaMont said:

mistermaxxx said:

BlaqueKnight said:

[color=blue:2c41cec6b9:50d66851f0:1ec4dca08e:5baa896a6a]Xavier? The band that did the song "Work That Sucka To Death"? How were THEY Prince clones? There was NOTHING in that song that was even remotely Prince-like. Rick James has been around as long as Prince has. Get ya facts straight.

Tony Rich? Since WHEN was being a multi-instrumentalist being a Prince clone? Was Prince the first multi-instrumentalist EVER? Impressive. Not only were you able to display a level of "Princitivity" well beyond that of the normal ranting fan, but you also simultaneously insulted THOUSANDS, maybe MILLIONS of composers, band teachers, orchestra players, etc. I hope you're proud of yourself.

[This message was edited Sat Sep 6 10:06:19 PDT 2003 by BlaqueKnight]
Rick James was around since the late 60's.Original Member of Crosby,Nash&Young.they recorded a Album's worth for Motown that still sits in the Vault.go to E-bay&you might find Rick's "White Cane" Album project from 1972.great point on Tony Rich Blaque. Stevie WOnder,Junie Morrison,Jimi Hendrix,Ernie Isley,Rick James,etc.. among others were doing the One Man Band thing.



I have that White Cane album (1971) and its great. Find it if you can. Its some of Rick's most original work. Rick did go on to borrow heavily from Prince in the late 80s - at least the look was blatantly copied in the GLow video.
they each took from one another.like B.B. King said everyone takes from everyone.
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Reply #10 posted 09/07/03 11:10am

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LaMont said:

Prince clones reunion

I am thinking of coorniating a Prince clone reunion. Mostly old school but DAngelo can come. Heres the short list. Feel free to add LEGITMATE clones from any Prince era. Prince clone is defined by any rip off of the Prince sound or look.


Ready for the World
Georgio
Micki Free
Barkays (they actually ripped off everybody that was funky)
Xavier
Rick James (check out the video for a song named Glow)
O Bryan
Mazarati (even though they were a Paisley Park act)
Jesse Johnson (I'm his no. 1 fan but the first couple albums was all Prince)


I also have to add Tony Rich - the most original clone. He actually has a signature symbol and uses r for are and u for you as Prince does. Very similar vocal arrangements and a multi instrumentalist as well.

How did I forget Terence Trent Darby - the best Prince clone. He is still naking good music and he has made a rebellious stance against the industry just like Prince. Everyone remembers in the 80s when he was heralded as thhhe new Prince. He's bad and probably the only one that gives a live show that could even come close to Prince. His WildCard album is probably the most brilliant album that no one has heard this side of The Rainbow Children. Just for a minute, put down the low class sex driven soft porn pop for the likes of Beyonce and most rappers and seek this out.




What you want is an arguement. Since I'm in a good mood...you won't get one. You have substantiated NOTHING. Normally, I would put your ass on blast for all the name calling, but not today. May God show you a better way of communication.
1. Clone - Function: noun
Etymology: Greek klOn twig, slip; akin to Greek klan to break -- more at CLAST
Date: 1903
1 a : the aggregate of the asexually produced progeny of an individual; also : a group of replicas of all or part of a macromolecule (as DNA or an antibody) b : an individual grown from a single somatic cell of its parent and genetically identical to it
2 : one that appears to be a copy of an original form

source: http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary

By YOUR definition, Prince himself would be considered a clone of James Brown, Jimi Hendrix, Little Richard, Sly Stone etc, and so on. Since by your definition RFTW, Bar-Kays (who preceeded Prince by YEARS), Rick James (who also preceeded Prince by years), O Bryan...well...next - Jesse J. - who was part of then MN sound, and Mazarati - a BROWNMARK project are clones. Then by ACTUAL definition of the word, they too are clones of JB, Sly, etc. So Prince, being a clone himself, is NOT the original. Point is, ALL artists borrow or are influenced by other artists. Maybe if you examine the said artists' material a bit more closely you will hear the originality in them as well. Sananda sounds NOTHING like Prince; more like Sam Cooke. Being a multi-instrumentalist is a trait that goes far above and beyond Prince and it always has. Just because YOU equate playing multiple instruments with Prince doesn't mean EVERYONE does. THAT was my point. It would seem that because you are Prince fan, you LOOK for similiarities between Prince and other artists. Because you seem to see Prince as the apex, you seem to define others as "clones" instead of "being influenced by". Its too bad you can't seem to see beyond Prince in your musical references. You have NOT disproven my point, because you CAN'T Truth is inescapable. Peace be unto you, you big dummy. nana

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Reply #11 posted 09/10/03 8:51am

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BlaqueKnight said:

LaMont said:

Prince clones reunion

I am thinking of coorniating a Prince clone reunion. Mostly old school but DAngelo can come. Heres the short list. Feel free to add LEGITMATE clones from any Prince era. Prince clone is defined by any rip off of the Prince sound or look.


Ready for the World
Georgio
Micki Free
Barkays (they actually ripped off everybody that was funky)
Xavier
Rick James (check out the video for a song named Glow)
O Bryan
Mazarati (even though they were a Paisley Park act)
Jesse Johnson (I'm his no. 1 fan but the first couple albums was all Prince)


I also have to add Tony Rich - the most original clone. He actually has a signature symbol and uses r for are and u for you as Prince does. Very similar vocal arrangements and a multi instrumentalist as well.

How did I forget Terence Trent Darby - the best Prince clone. He is still naking good music and he has made a rebellious stance against the industry just like Prince. Everyone remembers in the 80s when he was heralded as thhhe new Prince. He's bad and probably the only one that gives a live show that could even come close to Prince. His WildCard album is probably the most brilliant album that no one has heard this side of The Rainbow Children. Just for a minute, put down the low class sex driven soft porn pop for the likes of Beyonce and most rappers and seek this out.




[color=blue:4c764853fe:5f413ade5c]What you want is an arguement. Since I'm in a good mood...you won't get one. You have substantiated NOTHING. Normally, I would put your ass on blast for all the name calling, but not today. May God show you a better way of communication.
1. Clone - Function: noun
Etymology: Greek klOn twig, slip; akin to Greek klan to break -- more at CLAST
Date: 1903
1 a : the aggregate of the asexually produced progeny of an individual; also : a group of replicas of all or part of a macromolecule (as DNA or an antibody) b : an individual grown from a single somatic cell of its parent and genetically identical to it
2 : one that appears to be a copy of an original form

source: http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary

By YOUR definition, Prince himself would be considered a clone of James Brown, Jimi Hendrix, Little Richard, Sly Stone etc, and so on. Since by your definition RFTW, Bar-Kays (who preceeded Prince by YEARS), Rick James (who also preceeded Prince by years), O Bryan...well...next - Jesse J. - who was part of then MN sound, and Mazarati - a BROWNMARK project are clones. Then by ACTUAL definition of the word, they too are clones of JB, Sly, etc. So Prince, being a clone himself, is NOT the original. Point is, ALL artists borrow or are influenced by other artists. Maybe if you examine the said artists' material a bit more closely you will hear the originality in them as well. Sananda sounds NOTHING like Prince; more like Sam Cooke. Being a multi-instrumentalist is a trait that goes far above and beyond Prince and it always has. Just because YOU equate playing multiple instruments with Prince doesn't mean EVERYONE does. THAT was my point. It would seem that because you are Prince fan, you LOOK for similiarities between Prince and other artists. Because you seem to see Prince as the apex, you seem to define others as "clones" instead of "being influenced by". Its too bad you can't seem to see beyond Prince in your musical references. You have NOT disproven my point, because you CAN'T Truth is inescapable. Peace be unto you, you big dummy. nana

[This message was edited Sun Sep 7 11:40:21 PDT 2003 by BlaqueKnight]



Look, you got showed up. Take it like a man. I have documentation. I have an infinite number of better things to do than argue with a lesser intellect such as yours.
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Reply #12 posted 09/10/03 11:34am

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LaMont said:
Look, you got showed up. Take it like a man. I have documentation. I have an infinite number of better things to do than argue with a lesser intellect such as yours.[/quote]



LMAO@documentation!!! documentation...supporting OPINION! LMBAO!!! Ya'll .org muh fuckas are funny as hell. Peace be unto you...
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Reply #13 posted 09/10/03 1:43pm

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Terence Trent D'Arby/Sananda is no Prince clone, you must be kidding. Just being an artist who is black,innovative and talented, does different genres of music and has had problems with the record industry does not make anybody a prince clone. He has never copied Prince and if there happens to be some similarities in their music than that is because both of them have been influenced by other artists that have been there before them.
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Reply #14 posted 09/11/03 6:29am

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LMAO at Lamont and BlaqueKnight smile
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Reply #15 posted 09/11/03 4:58pm

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4nowneway said:

forgot Maxwell, he trys to sound like P and look like Lenny Kravitz.


Newsflash...the AFRO came BEFORE Kravitz. (I suppose that's what you are reffering to since other than being bi-racial, that's about all they have in common lookswise) I get sick of black culture being mis-defined by Pop meanderings. Afros have never completely left the black community. They may fade in & out, but Lenny DEFINATELY ain't settin' no trends in the black community. Maxwell tries to sound like P? Newsflash # 2: Prince did not invent falsetto. They sound NOTHING alike. Maxwell doesn't scream or go "aahh-ooh-a", so how does he sound like Prince? Again, with the reduction of black American culture. We can go WAYYY back and find falsetto singers. Ever heard of Smokey Robinson? Little Anthony and the Imperials? Curtis Mayfield? Damn near every male vocal group in black history had a falsetto singer! Fuck it. Too many people lackin' musical knowledge on this board outside of Prince.
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Reply #16 posted 09/11/03 8:52pm

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BlaqueKnight said:

4nowneway said:

forgot Maxwell, he trys to sound like P and look like Lenny Kravitz.


Newsflash...the AFRO came BEFORE Kravitz. (I suppose that's what you are reffering to since other than being bi-racial, that's about all they have in common lookswise) I get sick of black culture being mis-defined by Pop meanderings. Afros have never completely left the black community. They may fade in & out, but Lenny DEFINATELY ain't settin' no trends in the black community. Maxwell tries to sound like P? Newsflash # 2: Prince did not invent falsetto. They sound NOTHING alike. Maxwell doesn't scream or go "aahh-ooh-a", so how does he sound like Prince? Again, with the reduction of black American culture. We can go WAYYY back and find falsetto singers. Ever heard of Smokey Robinson? Little Anthony and the Imperials? Curtis Mayfield? Damn near every male vocal group in black history had a falsetto singer! Fuck it. Too many people lackin' musical knowledge on this board outside of Prince.

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Reply #17 posted 09/12/03 7:33am

mistermaxxx

BlaqueKnight said:

4nowneway said:

forgot Maxwell, he trys to sound like P and look like Lenny Kravitz.


[color=blue:6bf60221cd:cc5a3390c1]Newsflash...the AFRO came BEFORE Kravitz. (I suppose that's what you are reffering to since other than being bi-racial, that's about all they have in common lookswise) I get sick of black culture being mis-defined by Pop meanderings. Afros have never completely left the black community. They may fade in & out, but Lenny DEFINATELY ain't settin' no trends in the black community. Maxwell tries to sound like P? Newsflash # 2: Prince did not invent falsetto. They sound NOTHING alike. Maxwell doesn't scream or go "aahh-ooh-a", so how does he sound like Prince? Again, with the reduction of black American culture. We can go WAYYY back and find falsetto singers. Ever heard of Smokey Robinson? Little Anthony and the Imperials? Curtis Mayfield? Damn near every male vocal group in black history had a falsetto singer! Fuck it. Too many people lackin' musical knowledge on this board outside of Prince.
You Brought on Home MAN!!
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Reply #18 posted 09/12/03 1:28pm

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I love it. More please...
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