mediumdry said:

How dare they ask Cat about drugs in relation to Prince? It's not like she got some ecstacy pills from Anthony Kiedis and gave them to Prince leading to the Black Album being canceled or anything!

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OldFriends4Sale said:

She has every right to be bothered by this problematic and stupid questions. Why even ask her about SISTER?

Did you know what the song sister was about , Prince f**king his Sister ?

Do you think Prince was murdered ?

Did you know about any drugs ?

Does that sound like a respectful documentary!!!!! Hell no!!!!!!

IF that's even what happened...

Cat has since deleted her post.

OldFriends4Sale said:

She has every right to be bothered by this problematic and stupid questions. Why even ask her about SISTER?

Did you know what the song sister was about , Prince f**king his Sister ?

Do you think Prince was murdered ?

Did you know about any drugs ?

Does that sound like a respectful documentary!!!!! Hell no!!!!!!

This is her version. It's a matter of perspective if these questions are respectful or not. I think a good documentary would not filter these things out when there has been so much speculation. Most of her posts the last years have not been "respectful" and use foul language.

It seems like she is regretful for leaving the Prince camp. Every time something is moving forward for release she does anything to get attention. She mentioned she couldn't contribute liner notes to SOTT because of COVID, and she was mad they didn't wait for her. She seems to have a lot of time on her hands these days, so that doesn't make sense.

The fact that she brought up getting paid for a documentary makes me want to take the rest with a grain of salt.

No idea what they'd ask about Sister for, aside from thinking she'd have a great take on Prince at his most provocative. They must have thought she'd talk about delicate topics openly.

The man did die of a drug overdose, you can't make a film about him without having someone talk about it.

lavendardrummachine said:

No idea what they'd ask about Sister for, aside from thinking she'd have a great take on Prince at his most provocative. They must have thought she'd talk about delicate topics openly.

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She choreographed the Lovesexy tour, one of the few tours, after the Dirty Mind tour, where he had Sister in the main set every night. So Prince asked her for choreography to his most controversial song, which makes asking about it not just expected, but pretty much necessary if you are not making a fluff piece.

mediumdry said:

lavendardrummachine said:

No idea what they'd ask about Sister for, aside from thinking she'd have a great take on Prince at his most provocative. They must have thought she'd talk about delicate topics openly.

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She choreographed the Lovesexy tour, one of the few tours, after the Dirty Mind tour, where he had Sister in the main set every night. So Prince asked her for choreography to his most controversial song, which makes asking about it not just expected, but pretty much necessary if you are not making a fluff piece.

yeah but did anyone ask anyone if he did meet some lady on her way to being wed and had sex with her?

did anyone ever as Lisa Dez BrownMark Andre Fink Bobby Z etc that was just a weird question

Why not ask her if Prince has sex with men and women because of the line in Anna Stesia

At this point anyone who asked her those questions didn't do their homework and definately didn't do their homework on Cat. Because I would not expect any less of a response from her.

ea1313 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

She has every right to be bothered by this problematic and stupid questions. Why even ask her about SISTER?

Did you know what the song sister was about , Prince f**king his Sister ?

Do you think Prince was murdered ?

Did you know about any drugs ?

Does that sound like a respectful documentary!!!!! Hell no!!!!!!

This is her version. It's a matter of perspective if these questions are respectful or not. I think a good documentary would not filter these things out when there has been so much speculation. Most of her posts the last years have not been "respectful" and use foul language.

It seems like she is regretful for leaving the Prince camp. Every time something is moving forward for release she does anything to get attention. She mentioned she couldn't contribute liner notes to SOTT because of COVID, and she was mad they didn't wait for her. She seems to have a lot of time on her hands these days, so that doesn't make sense.

The 'interviewer' didn't do his/her homework.
If they would have asked me if they should asked her these things.
I would have told them
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No, Why ask that? (why not aske about the Black album)

No
No

My biggest concern about this documentary is whether Prince will be overly sanitized.

How much will the estate control the narrative for 'legacy' preservation?

I really hope Ezra is not too obedient.

What really happened with Ava?

[Edited 9/29/20 8:39am]

OldFriends4Sale said:

mediumdry said:

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She choreographed the Lovesexy tour, one of the few tours, after the Dirty Mind tour, where he had Sister in the main set every night. So Prince asked her for choreography to his most controversial song, which makes asking about it not just expected, but pretty much necessary if you are not making a fluff piece.

yeah but did anyone ask anyone if he did meet some lady on her way to being wed and had sex with her?

did anyone ever as Lisa Dez BrownMark Andre Fink Bobby Z etc that was just a weird question

Why not ask her if Prince has sex with men and women because of the line in Anna Stesia

At this point anyone who asked her those questions didn't do their homework and definately didn't do their homework on Cat. Because I would not expect any less of a response from her.

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So you think that the lyrics to Head should get the same type of questions as Sister? Admittedly, they both are "shock-songs", probably meant to get a reaction out of people. (Rick James (!) was shocked by Head!) But the topic of incest is much more taboo than head, wether or not with a bride to be.

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Did anyone ever ask the others? I can only imagine they did. Do you want to find interviews from those days? From the books they've written, it seems they never adressed the issue (that I can imagine).

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I think Prince may have stirred controversy in his day... he may have been asked wether he was straight or gay. Maybe even enough to talk about in some of his songs. Early in his career he definitely liked to play with gender norms. Mazarati had lyrics about it too. Meaning, that question was asked repeatedly (ad nauseum) too.

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Now.. I don't know if Cat ever said Prince was murdered or not, I haven't really kept up with her and her opinions. She has a crazy energy about her that makes me take anything she says with a bag of salt. If I were interviewing her, I might ask about Sister as well, but probably in a slightly different way. (the interviewer may have done) But asking her about contact with Prince and those around him in his later years, asking her about drugs, asking her about what she thinks about Prince's death and how it happened, I think those are straightforward questions that I'd ask any associate if I were making a Prince documentary. Not even necesarily to use the information in the documentary, but it might point to another person or another perspective.

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I think the reaction from Cat here is not even so much about the questions she was asked, but about how it came across to her. She seems to think it was disrespectful and has lost hope it'll turn out good. Personally, I am not sure what to think, based on other reports about the team for this documentary. I can easily think of other explanations of why Cat would react this way.

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Most likely it got lost in translation, c'est le ton qui fait la musique, n'est-ce pas?

OldFriends4Sale said:

yeah but did anyone ask anyone if he did meet some lady on her way to being wed and had sex with her?

did anyone ever as Lisa Dez BrownMark Andre Fink Bobby Z etc that was just a weird question

Well we don't know... it's also possible it had come up in someone else's interview so now they're thirsty for a counter reaction.

My guess is they really wanted to address it in the film, and to include it they needed someone to give them the soundbite about the difference between shy nice Prince and provocative persona Prince.

Obviously there's a way of asking about Sister and Prince's lyrics that's just honest and like "Hey what do you think about that", but then you get introspective answers, and it sounds like they were trying to get Cat the sasspot instead based on interviews they heard online. Like, if you get certain people on you're going to feel like you failed if you don't get them to say something off script.

Cat's probably self aware enough to resent when people treat her like a live wire and try to light a match.

Jill said they were respectful.

How do we know for a fact, these are the questions that they asked Cat. She's deleted her post, and Jill's still stands.

mediumdry said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

yeah but did anyone ask anyone if he did meet some lady on her way to being wed and had sex with her?

did anyone ever as Lisa Dez BrownMark Andre Fink Bobby Z etc that was just a weird question

Why not ask her if Prince has sex with men and women because of the line in Anna Stesia

At this point anyone who asked her those questions didn't do their homework and definately didn't do their homework on Cat. Because I would not expect any less of a response from her.

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So you think that the lyrics to Head should get the same type of questions as Sister? Admittedly, they both are "shock-songs", probably meant to get a reaction out of people. (Rick James (!) was shocked by Head!) But the topic of incest is much more taboo than head, wether or not with a bride to be.

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Did anyone ever ask the others? I can only imagine they did. Do you want to find interviews from those days? From the books they've written, it seems they never adressed the issue (that I can imagine).

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I think Prince may have stirred controversy in his day... he may have been asked wether he was straight or gay. Maybe even enough to talk about in some of his songs. Early in his career he definitely liked to play with gender norms. Mazarati had lyrics about it too. Meaning, that question was asked repeatedly (ad nauseum) too.

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Now.. I don't know if Cat ever said Prince was murdered or not, I haven't really kept up with her and her opinions. She has a crazy energy about her that makes me take anything she says with a bag of salt. If I were interviewing her, I might ask about Sister as well, but probably in a slightly different way. (the interviewer may have done) But asking her about contact with Prince and those around him in his later years, asking her about drugs, asking her about what she thinks about Prince's death and how it happened, I think those are straightforward questions that I'd ask any associate if I were making a Prince documentary. Not even necesarily to use the information in the documentary, but it might point to another person or another perspective.

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I think the reaction from Cat here is not even so much about the questions she was asked, but about how it came across to her. She seems to think it was disrespectful and has lost hope it'll turn out good. Personally, I am not sure what to think, based on other reports about the team for this documentary. I can easily think of other explanations of why Cat would react this way.

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Most likely it got lost in translation, c'est le ton qui fait la musique, n'est-ce pas?

Of course, as a Prince fan, the story of Head (and Uptown) is more interesting than Sister.
Those questions have been asked before, we've looked into who Prince's sisters were, timelines etc

They could have asked the Org and we would have given them a definative answer, to shut down any further questioning. I think asking that question is similar to asking still "Is Prince a control freak" I think the question of Sister is a disrespectful family question. They are just looking for dirt.
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I've read interviews with Cat, that consisted of well thought out questions and you can tell she is very accomidating and excited in talking about her time with Prince as well as her own star struck fandom. I would have prefered they asked some questions about the Black album and planned production, direction, style etc

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As much as I've researched read, scanned with a microscope, I haven't read any other associates being asked about Sister. I will go back over one particular period where I remember it being addressed, but I don't think it was an asked question to a band member.

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Yeah as I said, I would expect Cat to respond the way she did, because having done the 'research' ie read on FB or some other places how she feels about it, I would not have asked her those questions. Better to stay with the areas the remind us of the good times, the mystery and the excitement of Prince.

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Ask about the Black album not Sister

OldFriends4Sale said:

mediumdry said:

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So you think that the lyrics to Head should get the same type of questions as Sister? Admittedly, they both are "shock-songs", probably meant to get a reaction out of people. (Rick James (!) was shocked by Head!) But the topic of incest is much more taboo than head, wether or not with a bride to be.

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Did anyone ever ask the others? I can only imagine they did. Do you want to find interviews from those days? From the books they've written, it seems they never adressed the issue (that I can imagine).

.

I think Prince may have stirred controversy in his day... he may have been asked wether he was straight or gay. Maybe even enough to talk about in some of his songs. Early in his career he definitely liked to play with gender norms. Mazarati had lyrics about it too. Meaning, that question was asked repeatedly (ad nauseum) too.

.

Now.. I don't know if Cat ever said Prince was murdered or not, I haven't really kept up with her and her opinions. She has a crazy energy about her that makes me take anything she says with a bag of salt. If I were interviewing her, I might ask about Sister as well, but probably in a slightly different way. (the interviewer may have done) But asking her about contact with Prince and those around him in his later years, asking her about drugs, asking her about what she thinks about Prince's death and how it happened, I think those are straightforward questions that I'd ask any associate if I were making a Prince documentary. Not even necesarily to use the information in the documentary, but it might point to another person or another perspective.

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I think the reaction from Cat here is not even so much about the questions she was asked, but about how it came across to her. She seems to think it was disrespectful and has lost hope it'll turn out good. Personally, I am not sure what to think, based on other reports about the team for this documentary. I can easily think of other explanations of why Cat would react this way.

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Most likely it got lost in translation, c'est le ton qui fait la musique, n'est-ce pas?

Of course, as a Prince fan, the story of Head (and Uptown) is more interesting than Sister.
Those questions have been asked before, we've looked into who Prince's sisters were, timelines etc

They could have asked the Org and we would have given them a definative answer, to shut down any further questioning. I think asking that question is similar to asking still "Is Prince a control freak" I think the question of Sister is a disrespectful family question. They are just looking for dirt.
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I've read interviews with Cat, that consisted of well thought out questions and you can tell she is very accomidating and excited in talking about her time with Prince as well as her own star struck fandom. I would have prefered they asked some questions about the Black album and planned production, direction, style etc

.

As much as I've researched read, scanned with a microscope, I haven't read any other associates being asked about Sister. I will go back over one particular period where I remember it being addressed, but I don't think it was an asked question to a band member.

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Yeah as I said, I would expect Cat to respond the way she did, because having done the 'research' ie read on FB or some other places how she feels about it, I would not have asked her those questions. Better to stay with the areas the remind us of the good times, the mystery and the excitement of Prince.

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Ask about the Black album not Sister

Thank you for mention of Koo Koo video. Didn't know about that video before your mention, and so happy to see it. Some pics below.

Got a couple questions about bolded. It sounds like you mean that it's better to do that when interviewing Cat in particular. Is that right?

Also, doesn't a film with the purpose of documenting someone's life and art need to cover not just good times, but tough times and in-between times? Wouldn't documentary makers ideally touch on all of that in key interviews?







From https://www.pinterest.de/...eo-koo-ko/

rednblue said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Of course, as a Prince fan, the story of Head (and Uptown) is more interesting than Sister.
Those questions have been asked before, we've looked into who Prince's sisters were, timelines etc

They could have asked the Org and we would have given them a definative answer, to shut down any further questioning. I think asking that question is similar to asking still "Is Prince a control freak" I think the question of Sister is a disrespectful family question. They are just looking for dirt.
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I've read interviews with Cat, that consisted of well thought out questions and you can tell she is very accomidating and excited in talking about her time with Prince as well as her own star struck fandom. I would have prefered they asked some questions about the Black album and planned production, direction, style etc

.

As much as I've researched read, scanned with a microscope, I haven't read any other associates being asked about Sister. I will go back over one particular period where I remember it being addressed, but I don't think it was an asked question to a band member.

.

Yeah as I said, I would expect Cat to respond the way she did, because having done the 'research' ie read on FB or some other places how she feels about it, I would not have asked her those questions. Better to stay with the areas the remind us of the good times, the mystery and the excitement of Prince.

.

Ask about the Black album not Sister

Thank you for mention of Koo Koo video. Didn't know about that video before your mention, and so happy to see it. Some pics below.

Got a couple questions about bolded. It sounds like you mean that it's better to do that when interviewing Cat in particular. Is that right?

Also, doesn't a film with the purpose of documenting someone's life and art need to cover not just good times, but tough times and in-between times? Wouldn't documentary makers ideally touch on all of that in key interviews?







From https://www.pinterest.de/...eo-koo-ko/

No problem(about Koo Koo) glad you discovered this

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Yes, more particular with Cat. You can get a LOT out of Cat. She interviews pretty good. Her thoughts and memories even of coming across Prince with Susan Moonsie in 1982 at a hotel and seeing Prince and Vanity 6 at a local spot/club right after that. She posted a photo of herself from that night, that looked like she could have been a member of Vanity 6 in pink.
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I think documentaries should cover the persons whole life of course. But if a documentary is focused on making Prince look like a sex addict drug addict but looking for any little possible involvement of weird possibilities then I have a problem with that. And is probably not representative of the Prince 'real' fans know. Because we understand Sister.

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interviewers or 'fans' who attack associate musicians for their own amusement don't understand Prince either.

OldFriends4Sale said:

mediumdry said:

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So you think that the lyrics to Head should get the same type of questions as Sister? Admittedly, they both are "shock-songs", probably meant to get a reaction out of people. (Rick James (!) was shocked by Head!) But the topic of incest is much more taboo than head, wether or not with a bride to be.

.

Did anyone ever ask the others? I can only imagine they did. Do you want to find interviews from those days? From the books they've written, it seems they never adressed the issue (that I can imagine).

.

I think Prince may have stirred controversy in his day... he may have been asked wether he was straight or gay. Maybe even enough to talk about in some of his songs. Early in his career he definitely liked to play with gender norms. Mazarati had lyrics about it too. Meaning, that question was asked repeatedly (ad nauseum) too.

.

Now.. I don't know if Cat ever said Prince was murdered or not, I haven't really kept up with her and her opinions. She has a crazy energy about her that makes me take anything she says with a bag of salt. If I were interviewing her, I might ask about Sister as well, but probably in a slightly different way. (the interviewer may have done) But asking her about contact with Prince and those around him in his later years, asking her about drugs, asking her about what she thinks about Prince's death and how it happened, I think those are straightforward questions that I'd ask any associate if I were making a Prince documentary. Not even necesarily to use the information in the documentary, but it might point to another person or another perspective.

.

I think the reaction from Cat here is not even so much about the questions she was asked, but about how it came across to her. She seems to think it was disrespectful and has lost hope it'll turn out good. Personally, I am not sure what to think, based on other reports about the team for this documentary. I can easily think of other explanations of why Cat would react this way.

.

Most likely it got lost in translation, c'est le ton qui fait la musique, n'est-ce pas?

Of course, as a Prince fan, the story of Head (and Uptown) is more interesting than Sister.
Those questions have been asked before, we've looked into who Prince's sisters were, timelines etc

They could have asked the Org and we would have given them a definative answer, to shut down any further questioning. I think asking that question is similar to asking still "Is Prince a control freak" I think the question of Sister is a disrespectful family question. They are just looking for dirt.
.
I've read interviews with Cat, that consisted of well thought out questions and you can tell she is very accomidating and excited in talking about her time with Prince as well as her own star struck fandom. I would have prefered they asked some questions about the Black album and planned production, direction, style etc

.

As much as I've researched read, scanned with a microscope, I haven't read any other associates being asked about Sister. I will go back over one particular period where I remember it being addressed, but I don't think it was an asked question to a band member.

.

Yeah as I said, I would expect Cat to respond the way she did, because having done the 'research' ie read on FB or some other places how she feels about it, I would not have asked her those questions. Better to stay with the areas the remind us of the good times, the mystery and the excitement of Prince.

.

Ask about the Black album not Sister

A documentary worth anything needs to present a balanced, well-researched, objective view of it's subject.

If this doc only focuses on the 'mystery, excitement' etc of Prince, it will tell me the documentarian

gave up control to 'vested interests'

RJOrion said:

its so cool how most org "commenters" believe everything out the mouths of Wendy, Lisa, Suzan, Eric, Tudahl, etc... but when Cat Glover says something, "She has mental problems". "She doesnt have good grammar", "She cant sing, all she does is dance"... some of you "people" are always so predictable.

People with off-topic associate criticisms of zero substance can have one another. There should be a thread devoted to people getting off on that stuff. Get that party out of here.

Margot said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Of course, as a Prince fan, the story of Head (and Uptown) is more interesting than Sister.
Those questions have been asked before, we've looked into who Prince's sisters were, timelines etc

They could have asked the Org and we would have given them a definative answer, to shut down any further questioning. I think asking that question is similar to asking still "Is Prince a control freak" I think the question of Sister is a disrespectful family question. They are just looking for dirt.
.
I've read interviews with Cat, that consisted of well thought out questions and you can tell she is very accomidating and excited in talking about her time with Prince as well as her own star struck fandom. I would have prefered they asked some questions about the Black album and planned production, direction, style etc

.

As much as I've researched read, scanned with a microscope, I haven't read any other associates being asked about Sister. I will go back over one particular period where I remember it being addressed, but I don't think it was an asked question to a band member.

.

Yeah as I said, I would expect Cat to respond the way she did, because having done the 'research' ie read on FB or some other places how she feels about it, I would not have asked her those questions. Better to stay with the areas the remind us of the good times, the mystery and the excitement of Prince.

.

Ask about the Black album not Sister

A documentary worth anything needs to present a balanced, well-researched, objective view of it's subject.

If this doc only focuses on the 'mystery, excitement' etc of Prince, it will tell me the documentarian

gave up control to 'vested interests'

see post #43

Margot said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Of course, as a Prince fan, the story of Head (and Uptown) is more interesting than Sister.
Those questions have been asked before, we've looked into who Prince's sisters were, timelines etc

They could have asked the Org and we would have given them a definative answer, to shut down any further questioning. I think asking that question is similar to asking still "Is Prince a control freak" I think the question of Sister is a disrespectful family question. They are just looking for dirt.
.
I've read interviews with Cat, that consisted of well thought out questions and you can tell she is very accomidating and excited in talking about her time with Prince as well as her own star struck fandom. I would have prefered they asked some questions about the Black album and planned production, direction, style etc

.

As much as I've researched read, scanned with a microscope, I haven't read any other associates being asked about Sister. I will go back over one particular period where I remember it being addressed, but I don't think it was an asked question to a band member.

.

Yeah as I said, I would expect Cat to respond the way she did, because having done the 'research' ie read on FB or some other places how she feels about it, I would not have asked her those questions. Better to stay with the areas the remind us of the good times, the mystery and the excitement of Prince.

.

Ask about the Black album not Sister

A documentary worth anything needs to present a balanced, well-researched, objective view of it's subject.

If this doc only focuses on the 'mystery, excitement' etc of Prince, it will tell me the documentarian

gave up control to 'vested interests'

Yes. And as to a related issue, IMO there is a difference between showing respect and perpetuating lethal associations with shame and hiding. IMO, perpetuating shame is often the opposite of showing respect. Giving undue focus is wrong, but so is ignoring a known powerful condition that causes many great suffering. How many might have been with us longer if they hadn't felt such a strong drive to hide?

I second your earlier question re: Ava Duvernay.

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rednblue said:

Margot said:

A documentary worth anything needs to present a balanced, well-researched, objective view of it's subject.

If this doc only focuses on the 'mystery, excitement' etc of Prince, it will tell me the documentarian

gave up control to 'vested interests'

Yes. And as to a related issue, IMO there is a difference between showing respect and perpetuating lethal associations with shame and hiding.. IMO, perpetuating shame is often the opposite of showing respect. Giving undue focus is wrong, but so is ignoring a known powerful condition that causes many great suffering. How many might have been with us longer if they hadn't felt such a strong drive to hide?

I second your earlier question re: Ava Duvernay.

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[Edited 9/30/20 10:11am]

I absolutely agree. One can tell that what is being 'hidden' is all about shame.

It is the opposite of respect.

I'm very concerned that there is little appetite for Prince, the man, not the image-maker etc.

I do think Ava was under pressure R/T this.

https://www.youtube.com/w...ZHkVrRNLM4

Prince Netflix Documentary Rumblings from Cat Glover, Jill Jones, Ruth Arzate

Prince's Friend

It's been quiet on the Prince Netflix Documentary front, and we haven't heard much about it for a while. Recently, Cat Glover, Jill Jones, and Ruth Arzate have shared with us their thoughts on how the documentary is being handled... and the stories aren't all the same! Let's discuss!

I have concerns about the Prince documentary for a number of reasons, most of which

revolve around a lack of transparency.

-There has been no real conversation about why Ava backed out. I read it was 'creative differences'

with Netflix. IMO, Netflix does not seem to censor; there are a number of productions under the Netflix banner which can be interpreted as 'controversial' etc.

-I am concerned there will be estate over-involvement as to what may be discussed.

-One promising light, though, Ezra Edelman will want to keep his cred within the documentarian community, therefore should not go for fluff, only.

-I do not want the documentary to be salacious but I also do not want it 'scrubbed'.

Margot said:

I have concerns about the Prince documentary for a number of reasons, most of which

revolve around a lack of transparency.

-There has been no real conversation about why Ava backed out. I read it was 'creative differences'

with Netflix. IMO, Netflix does not seem to censor; there are a number of productions under the Netflix banner which can be interpreted as 'controversial' etc.

-I am concerned there will be estate over-involvement as to what may be discussed.

-One promising light, though, Ezra Edelman will want to keep his cred within the documentarian community, therefore should not go for fluff, only.

-I do not want the documentary to be salacious but I also do not want it 'scrubbed'.

Agree. Not salacious, not scrubbed.

To your point about Netflix and willingness to air controvesial documentaries, just one example is Netflix's selectrion of Ryan White's The Keepers. It investigates events that happened here in the Baltimore suburbs.

The subject matter couldn't be further from that of a documentary about an enormously gifted musician.

I bring it up as an example that suggests that Netflix is not eager to censor. That's a good thing.

rednblue said:

Margot said:

I have concerns about the Prince documentary for a number of reasons, most of which

revolve around a lack of transparency.

-There has been no real conversation about why Ava backed out. I read it was 'creative differences'

with Netflix. IMO, Netflix does not seem to censor; there are a number of productions under the Netflix banner which can be interpreted as 'controversial' etc.

-I am concerned there will be estate over-involvement as to what may be discussed.

-One promising light, though, Ezra Edelman will want to keep his cred within the documentarian community, therefore should not go for fluff, only.

-I do not want the documentary to be salacious but I also do not want it 'scrubbed'.

Agree. Not salacious, not scrubbed.

To your point about Netflix and willingness to air controvesial documentaries, just one example is Netflix's selectrion of Ryan White's The Keepers. It investigates events that happened here in the Baltimore suburbs.

The subject matter couldn't be further from that of a documentary about an enormously gifted musician.

I bring it up as an example that suggests that Netflix is not eager to censor. That's a good thing.

I agree

We'll have to see if Ezra has a backbone.

Margot said:

My biggest concern about this documentary is whether Prince will be overly sanitized.

How much will the estate control the narrative for 'legacy' preservation?

I really hope Ezra is not too obedient.

What really happened with Ava?

[Edited 9/29/20 8:39am]

I don't want anything overly sanitized either. But at the same time I don't want anything like the Whitney documentary where all they seemed to focus on was drugs and Bobby Brown. And that was approved by her estate.

rogifan said:

Margot said:

My biggest concern about this documentary is whether Prince will be overly sanitized.

How much will the estate control the narrative for 'legacy' preservation?

I really hope Ezra is not too obedient.

What really happened with Ava?

[Edited 9/29/20 8:39am]

I don't want anything overly sanitized either. But at the same time I don't want anything like the Whitney documentary where all they seemed to focus on was drugs and Bobby Brown. And that was approved by her estate.

Agree! There is infinitely more to life than medical issues and often stormy relationships.

IMO, if an attempt to document Prince's life doesn't have music and art its number one focus, something is horribly wrong.

Sounds like the Whitney documentary was extremely disappointing.

I wish to see an in-depth portrait of a man with amazing talent and creativity. I also wish to see more of the underpinnings of his life.

How did his early life affect his approach to music? How did his height

really affect him? What were his real feelings about people and their place in his life?

I would like to see a deeper psychological dive into who he really was...the man.

I have developed a greater appreciation and understanding for many artists/musicians by insightful biographers, documentarians, film-makers etc.

I just wanted to add that if I were so interesting that someone wanted to write a biography about me, I would expect they would look at my early life and the impact it had...child of an Irish immigrant doctor and American nurse who likely had to get married (with me), lapsing Catholics, divorced etc.

People act in ways that make sense when you have background.

IMO, there is nothing to hide about Prince and I wish the Estate would loosen it's grip.

Cat! We need you to wrap









your head in tinfoil and take a whole row of seats.