SquirrelMeat said:

Great interview here: NY Post

https://nypost.com/2019/1...s-complex/

On the last show of the “Controversy” tour, Prince’s band threw rotten garbage while The Time performed. From there, “s–t got violent . . . punches thrown and a couple of hotel rooms wrecked,” Day writes.

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

Great interview here: NY Post

https://nypost.com/2019/1...s-complex/

On the last show of the “Controversy” tour, Prince’s band threw rotten garbage while The Time performed. From there, “s–t got violent . . . punches thrown and a couple of hotel rooms wrecked,” Day writes.

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That line you quoted is only news if you've never read a proper article on The Time.

New interview with Morris: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/...-1.5316689

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Also posted here: https://www.wbez.org/show...037bfb7a14

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Also posted here: https://www.scpr.org/prog.../11/74391/

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ThatWhiteDude said:

Still waiting for my copy

Just got mine today. Can't wait to dig in.

ThatWhiteDude said:

Still waiting for my copy

My copy shipped on Monday.

Arrived in my city on Wednesday

Was shipped to Iowa on Friday.

Now back in my state today but not my city.

It is on tour with Morris.

Interesting how Morris can remember a "a jingle for a ladies' clothing shop called GG's" Prince did, but can't recall all the other work he did to secure his Warner's contract, including recording demos with Chris and David Z:

Chris Moon (from 10:00)

https://soundcloud.com/fu...-7-20-2018

Owen Husney (from 20:30)

https://www.youtube.com/w...vdIl040EL4

David Z (from 11:20)

https://www.youtube.com/w...7FVYX7tgy8

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BartVanHemelen said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

Great interview here: NY Post

https://nypost.com/2019/1...s-complex/

On the last show of the “Controversy” tour, Prince’s band threw rotten garbage while The Time performed. From there, “s–t got violent . . . punches thrown and a couple of hotel rooms wrecked,” Day writes.

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That line you quoted is only news if you've never read a proper article on The Time.

WTF are you banging on about now? I drop a selected quote - more for the benefit of those who AREN'T hardcore fans so chill out.

MoodyBlumes said:

Interesting how Morris can remember a "a jingle for a ladies' clothing shop called GG's" Prince did, but can't recall all the other work he did to secure his Warner's contract, including recording demos with Chris and David Z:

Chris Moon (from 10:00)

https://soundcloud.com/fu...-7-20-2018

Owen Husney (from 20:30)

https://www.youtube.com/w...vdIl040EL4

David Z (from 11:20)

https://www.youtube.com/w...7FVYX7tgy8

[Edited 10/13/19 3:36am]

Thank you!

Even though I am going to invest in the book I always prefer to read earlier interviews from the celebrities that I like because they were younger and plus they were more vocal and vivid about their life and art and plus they weren't as close off than they are older as sometimes details tend to be forgotten and plus they are very heavy controlled by their management team.

Ahem. I think Morris misplaced most of his anger on Prince, instead of himself.

PennyPurple said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I think with the makeup on the back thing, he's implying that there was an episode where Prince was either powertripping and showing he could ask his underlings anythings (or check their obedience) or that there was a weird sexual vibe (Prince was quite into Jagger and Bowie during this time), whatever it was, it made Morris uncomfortable and Prince and Morris never actually discussed it to clear the air and explain what it was.

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As far as Morris venting anger towards Prince... in the book, the remarks aimed at Prince are mostly flattering. Morris realises his entire career is thanks to Prince and is quite thankful. However, what isn't written in the book, but does seep through a little bit between the lines, is that Morris seems frustrated that his career is MD, a caricature. What's more, it's a mix of pimp, Prince and his own input. It pigeonholes him somewhere he doesn't always want to be. Coupled with the insensitive way that Prince could treat others (often deservedly so, but nevermind that right now), it is only understandable that he would have more negativity towards Prince, more unresolved business, than comes though in the book, but does come through in interviews at times.

mediumdry said:

As a fan this is a disappointing book which merely confirms Morris Day as a figment of Prince's imagination. There is so little insight, so little of his own story shared from his perspective rather than viewed through the Prince's narrow prism.

After the release of Pandemonium why did the band disintegrate? No idea because he's straight onto talking about Prince competing with Michael Jackson.

Why did The Original 7ven grind to a halt? It isn't addressed because he is fixated on his standing relation to Prince.

The tacky and cheap looking cover exactly mirrors the content. Perhaps Morris figured the only way to get the book released was to ride on Prince's coat tails, but when you're a bit part player in your own autobigraphy you know you done f%$ked up. Very poor.

yeah, his book is more an insight into how Prince worked with his associates than what happened within The Time. I'm guessing there are some big egos in that group that would be hurt by an open discussion on what goes on within that group of people. Instead of carefully being political about it, Morris just sidesteps it by not talking about it.

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I find that it comes across as more as Morris saying that the band, while good, was not so important to the Prince product "the Time" as he was. He's saying "The Time is Prince and me", the other people in the band get talked about as being brilliant players that could upstage Prince's band, but that's about it. It feels more about making him more important and the rest of the band less so.

mediumdry said:

I think with the makeup on the back thing, he's implying that there was an episode where Prince was either powertripping and showing he could ask his underlings anythings (or check their obedience) or that there was a weird sexual vibe (Prince was quite into Jagger and Bowie during this time), whatever it was, it made Morris uncomfortable and Prince and Morris never actually discussed it to clear the air and explain what it was.

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As far as Morris venting anger towards Prince... in the book, the remarks aimed at Prince are mostly flattering. Morris realises his entire career is thanks to Prince and is quite thankful. However, what isn't written in the book, but does seep through a little bit between the lines, is that Morris seems frustrated that his career is MD, a caricature. What's more, it's a mix of pimp, Prince and his own input. It pigeonholes him somewhere he doesn't always want to be. Coupled with the insensitive way that Prince could treat others (often deservedly so, but nevermind that right now), it is only understandable that he would have more negativity towards Prince, more unresolved business, than comes though in the book, but does come through in interviews at times.

Seems Morris had some unique opportunities he chose not to pursue. What an honor being asked to play Little Richard.

https://www.latimes.com/a...story.html

"It has been a bit more than a year since Day signed his deal at Fox, and part of the reason he has not yet shown up on screen is because he’s been quite selective about what the next movie will be. He turned down an offer to portray Little Richard. He passed on a Disney movie called “Off-Beat.” (“We begged him to do the movie,” says Disney chairman Jeff Katzenberg.) He read for “The Color Purple” and for Ron Howard’s “Gung Ho,” and has been reading scripts for months. “The right one just hasn’t come along yet,” he says with a shrug. “A starring role requires a lot of time, and I want to build to it.” "

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mediumdry said:

yeah, his book is more an insight into how Prince worked with his associates than what happened within The Time. I'm guessing there are some big egos in that group that would be hurt by an open discussion on what goes on within that group of people. Instead of carefully being political about it, Morris just sidesteps it by not talking about it.

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I find that it comes across as more as Morris saying that the band, while good, was not so important to the Prince product "the Time" as he was. He's saying "The Time is Prince and me", the other people in the band get talked about as being brilliant players that could upstage Prince's band, but that's about it. It feels more about making him more important and the rest of the band less so.

Well, to defend Morri's perspective just a bit - other than Jesse Johnson, it seems it was mainly Morris and Prince together in the studio working out songs and ideas. An example would be Cloreen Bacon Skin, which Prince wrote about in detail on the CB liner notes. He said it was just him and Morris doing an impromptu jam session together in the studio. Same with one of the earliest versions of International Lover - it was just Prince and Morris playing on that take, and Prince even calls out Morris at the end of the song. Seems as though that happened quite a bit in the earlier days.

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From what I've read elsewhere - and I don't yet have this book, so I'm not sure if Morris wrote about it - is that Morris was very angry that he did not get the drummer slot in Prince's first band. He wanted that job, and felt he deserved to have it. I'm sure Prince was already thinking ahead to creating another group for Morris, even before they set up meetings about The Time.

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I recently found a very old video from around 1991-92 on YT with Morris, Jerome, Jimmy and Terry in France talking about why things fell apart with the band during the making of Pandemonium. They were being somewhat discreet, but definitely stated - in so many words - that Prince wanted to control everything with the music, and I believe they also referenced not getting paid as they should have. I think once they went off on their own as The Original 7ven it became an ego problem with the group - too many chefs in the kitchen type of thing.

ARGGGGGH!

You guys swiped my idea to tell everyone about Morris initially being P's videographer.

Hopefully, what he recorded is still in decent condition in the vault's tapes.

Then how can you comment if you haven't even read the book? Multiple paragraphs on a thread about the book, that you haven't even read....

violetcrush said:

Well, to defend Morri's perspective just a bit - other than Jesse Johnson, it seems it was mainly Morris and Prince together in the studio working out songs and ideas. An example would be Cloreen Bacon Skin, which Prince wrote about in detail on the CB liner notes. He said it was just him and Morris doing an impromptu jam session together in the studio. Same with one of the earliest versions of International Lover - it was just Prince and Morris playing on that take, and Prince even calls out Morris at the end of the song. Seems as though that happened quite a bit in the earlier days.

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From what I've read elsewhere - and I don't yet have this book, so I'm not sure if Morris wrote about it - is that Morris was very angry that he did not get the drummer slot in Prince's first band. He wanted that job, and felt he deserved to have it. I'm sure Prince was already thinking ahead to creating another group for Morris, even before they set up meetings about The Time.

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I recently found a very old video from around 1991-92 on YT with Morris, Jerome, Jimmy and Terry in France talking about why things fell apart with the band during the making of Pandemonium. They were being somewhat discreet, but definitely stated - in so many words - that Prince wanted to control everything with the music, and I believe they also referenced not getting paid as they should have. I think once they went off on their own as The Original 7ven it became an ego problem with the group - too many chefs in the kitchen type of thing.

MoodyBlumes said:

Seems Morris had some unique opportunities he chose not to pursue. What an honor being asked to play Little Richard.

https://www.latimes.com/a...story.html

"It has been a bit more than a year since Day signed his deal at Fox, and part of the reason he has not yet shown up on screen is because he’s been quite selective about what the next movie will be. He turned down an offer to portray Little Richard. He passed on a Disney movie called “Off-Beat.” (“We begged him to do the movie,” says Disney chairman Jeff Katzenberg.) He read for “The Color Purple” and for Ron Howard’s “Gung Ho,” and has been reading scripts for months. “The right one just hasn’t come along yet,” he says with a shrug. “A starring role requires a lot of time, and I want to build to it.” "

[Edited 10/14/19 11:39am]

Yeah, he really shouldn't have passed up some of those roles.

PennyPurple said: