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Reply #90 posted 10/12/19 4:12am

jayceman

200 people at the book signing? ...No.
I don't think it was even 100- the blocked off line area was never full and they never needed the overflow area they also previously set up around the corner.

You had to buy the new book on-site to qualify for a line wristband, and he would only sign that, though personalization and pictures were allowed.

That said, Morris seemed in a good mood, looking sharp in a plaid suit, and happy to meet fans- they announced him to the stage (he was mostly "on time", appearing just three minutes late) and he got to signing and talking to everyone as they came up, posing afterward with most, for a quick picture.

We left after an hour, with the line mosly dwindled, so not sure if he stayed the full two hours there. No word of any other Minneapolis appearances over this weekend, so he may have just hopped back on a plane following.
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Reply #91 posted 10/12/19 8:24am

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SquirrelMeat said:



bsprout said:


So I've only read the sample and Morris' voice already has me cracking up. Talking about girls buzzing around Prince's 'pint-sized ass like bees around honey' - lol. I don't know how I feel about Prince 'co-narrating' this book, but if anyone knows Prince, it's Morris. And I have to hand it to him, he seems pretty earnest. Knowing what I already know about Morris' long and not-always-rosy past with Prince, I also believe he genuinely loves and respects Prince. I will read this book.




Once you've read the whole thing, his approach makes sense. He addresses the fall outs head on, and he uses the play with 'Prince' to give the opposite opinion, to ensure the version of events doesn't come across one sided.

The second from last chapter is very sad but heart warming.

I really enjoyed the whole thing.


Good to know, I will check it out, thanks.
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Reply #92 posted 10/12/19 11:29am

PURPLEIZED3121

Great interview here: NY Post

https://nypost.com/2019/1...s-complex/

On the last show of the “Controversy” tour, Prince’s band threw rotten garbage while The Time performed. From there, “s–t got violent . . . punches thrown and a couple of hotel rooms wrecked,” Day writes.

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Reply #93 posted 10/12/19 2:09pm

BartVanHemelen

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PURPLEIZED3121 said:

Great interview here: NY Post

https://nypost.com/2019/1...s-complex/

On the last show of the “Controversy” tour, Prince’s band threw rotten garbage while The Time performed. From there, “s–t got violent . . . punches thrown and a couple of hotel rooms wrecked,” Day writes.

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That line you quoted is only news if you've never read a proper article on The Time.

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Reply #94 posted 10/12/19 2:10pm

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Reply #95 posted 10/12/19 3:12pm

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Still waiting for my copy biggrin
"Like books and BLACK LIVES, Albums still MATTER."


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Reply #96 posted 10/12/19 4:01pm

PennyPurple

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ThatWhiteDude said:

Still waiting for my copy biggrin

Just got mine today. Can't wait to dig in.

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Reply #97 posted 10/12/19 7:52pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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ThatWhiteDude said:

Still waiting for my copy biggrin



My copy shipped on Monday.

Arrived in my city on Wednesday

Was shipped to Iowa on Friday.

Now back in my state today but not my city.

It is on tour with Morris.

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Reply #98 posted 10/12/19 11:18pm

MoodyBlumes

Interesting how Morris can remember a "a jingle for a ladies' clothing shop called GG's" Prince did, but can't recall all the other work he did to secure his Warner's contract, including recording demos with Chris and David Z:

Chris Moon (from 10:00)

https://soundcloud.com/fu...-7-20-2018

Owen Husney (from 20:30)

https://www.youtube.com/w...vdIl040EL4

David Z (from 11:20)

https://www.youtube.com/w...7FVYX7tgy8

[Edited 10/13/19 3:36am]

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Reply #99 posted 10/13/19 3:46am

PURPLEIZED3121

BartVanHemelen said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

Great interview here: NY Post

https://nypost.com/2019/1...s-complex/

On the last show of the “Controversy” tour, Prince’s band threw rotten garbage while The Time performed. From there, “s–t got violent . . . punches thrown and a couple of hotel rooms wrecked,” Day writes.

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That line you quoted is only news if you've never read a proper article on The Time.

WTF are you banging on about now? I drop a selected quote - more for the benefit of those who AREN'T hardcore fans so chill out.

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Reply #100 posted 10/13/19 6:12am

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MoodyBlumes said:

Interesting how Morris can remember a "a jingle for a ladies' clothing shop called GG's" Prince did, but can't recall all the other work he did to secure his Warner's contract, including recording demos with Chris and David Z:

Chris Moon (from 10:00)

https://soundcloud.com/fu...-7-20-2018

Owen Husney (from 20:30)

https://www.youtube.com/w...vdIl040EL4

David Z (from 11:20)

https://www.youtube.com/w...7FVYX7tgy8

[Edited 10/13/19 3:36am]

Thank you!

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #101 posted 10/13/19 9:14am

ladygirl99

Even though I am going to invest in the book I always prefer to read earlier interviews from the celebrities that I like because they were younger and plus they were more vocal and vivid about their life and art and plus they weren't as close off than they are older as sometimes details tend to be forgotten and plus they are very heavy controlled by their management team.

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Reply #102 posted 10/13/19 9:59am

Shockadelica9

Morris day confirmed in chapter 4 that John Nelson kicked prince out of the house because he was bringing bunch of girlfriends at his house so John got sick of it.
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Reply #103 posted 10/13/19 11:23am

onlyforaminute

I got my hardcopy Friday. biggrin
Year of Return 2019
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Reply #104 posted 10/13/19 3:33pm

PennyPurple

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Ahem. I think Morris misplaced most of his anger on Prince, instead of himself.

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Reply #105 posted 10/13/19 4:15pm

ThatWhiteDude

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PennyPurple said:

Ahem. I think Morris misplaced most of his anger on Prince, instead of himself.


That was my thought too when I read an article someone posted on Twitter.
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Reply #106 posted 10/13/19 4:16pm

ThatWhiteDude

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



ThatWhiteDude said:


Still waiting for my copy biggrin



My copy shipped on Monday.



Arrived in my city on Wednesday



Was shipped to Iowa on Friday.

Now back in my state today but not my city.



It is on tour with Morris.


What the hell? confused
"Like books and BLACK LIVES, Albums still MATTER."


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Reply #107 posted 10/13/19 9:35pm

LoveGalore

What is he implying with the makeup on the back thing?
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Reply #108 posted 10/14/19 4:16am

mediumdry

I think with the makeup on the back thing, he's implying that there was an episode where Prince was either powertripping and showing he could ask his underlings anythings (or check their obedience) or that there was a weird sexual vibe (Prince was quite into Jagger and Bowie during this time), whatever it was, it made Morris uncomfortable and Prince and Morris never actually discussed it to clear the air and explain what it was.

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As far as Morris venting anger towards Prince... in the book, the remarks aimed at Prince are mostly flattering. Morris realises his entire career is thanks to Prince and is quite thankful. However, what isn't written in the book, but does seep through a little bit between the lines, is that Morris seems frustrated that his career is MD, a caricature. What's more, it's a mix of pimp, Prince and his own input. It pigeonholes him somewhere he doesn't always want to be. Coupled with the insensitive way that Prince could treat others (often deservedly so, but nevermind that right now), it is only understandable that he would have more negativity towards Prince, more unresolved business, than comes though in the book, but does come through in interviews at times.

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Reply #109 posted 10/14/19 5:12am

violetcrush

mediumdry said:

I think with the makeup on the back thing, he's implying that there was an episode where Prince was either powertripping and showing he could ask his underlings anythings (or check their obedience) or that there was a weird sexual vibe (Prince was quite into Jagger and Bowie during this time), whatever it was, it made Morris uncomfortable and Prince and Morris never actually discussed it to clear the air and explain what it was.


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As far as Morris venting anger towards Prince... in the book, the remarks aimed at Prince are mostly flattering. Morris realises his entire career is thanks to Prince and is quite thankful. However, what isn't written in the book, but does seep through a little bit between the lines, is that Morris seems frustrated that his career is MD, a caricature. What's more, it's a mix of pimp, Prince and his own input. It pigeonholes him somewhere he doesn't always want to be. Coupled with the insensitive way that Prince could treat others (often deservedly so, but nevermind that right now), it is only understandable that he would have more negativity towards Prince, more unresolved business, than comes though in the book, but does come through in interviews at times.


Great synopsis. Morris’s resentment of being stuck in the “Morris Day/Purple Rain” character is somewhat understandable, but there is no guarantee that he would have made it as big, or bigger without his connection to Prince. I think Jimmy Jam and Terry are the only examples of associates making it bigger without Prince, but that was as Producers not performers. Wendy & Lisa did well with scoring TV/Film, and Sheila was still performing, but no one had more “celebrity” status or musical success - in terms of selling records - after they left the Prince camp. Prince was always going to be the focus and out in front. He designed it that way. Associates like Morris, Sheila, and W & L definitely helped him shine brighter though.
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Reply #110 posted 10/14/19 7:26am

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As a fan this is a disappointing book which merely confirms Morris Day as a figment of Prince's imagination. There is so little insight, so little of his own story shared from his perspective rather than viewed through the Prince's narrow prism.

After the release of Pandemonium why did the band disintegrate? No idea because he's straight onto talking about Prince competing with Michael Jackson.

Why did The Original 7ven grind to a halt? It isn't addressed because he is fixated on his standing relation to Prince.

The tacky and cheap looking cover exactly mirrors the content. Perhaps Morris figured the only way to get the book released was to ride on Prince's coat tails, but when you're a bit part player in your own autobigraphy you know you done f%$ked up. Very poor.

"Never argue with a fool, they will lower you to their level and then beat you with experience."—Woody Allen
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Reply #111 posted 10/14/19 7:54am

mediumdry

yeah, his book is more an insight into how Prince worked with his associates than what happened within The Time. I'm guessing there are some big egos in that group that would be hurt by an open discussion on what goes on within that group of people. Instead of carefully being political about it, Morris just sidesteps it by not talking about it.

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I find that it comes across as more as Morris saying that the band, while good, was not so important to the Prince product "the Time" as he was. He's saying "The Time is Prince and me", the other people in the band get talked about as being brilliant players that could upstage Prince's band, but that's about it. It feels more about making him more important and the rest of the band less so.

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Reply #112 posted 10/14/19 11:33am

MoodyBlumes

mediumdry said:

I think with the makeup on the back thing, he's implying that there was an episode where Prince was either powertripping and showing he could ask his underlings anythings (or check their obedience) or that there was a weird sexual vibe (Prince was quite into Jagger and Bowie during this time), whatever it was, it made Morris uncomfortable and Prince and Morris never actually discussed it to clear the air and explain what it was.

.

As far as Morris venting anger towards Prince... in the book, the remarks aimed at Prince are mostly flattering. Morris realises his entire career is thanks to Prince and is quite thankful. However, what isn't written in the book, but does seep through a little bit between the lines, is that Morris seems frustrated that his career is MD, a caricature. What's more, it's a mix of pimp, Prince and his own input. It pigeonholes him somewhere he doesn't always want to be. Coupled with the insensitive way that Prince could treat others (often deservedly so, but nevermind that right now), it is only understandable that he would have more negativity towards Prince, more unresolved business, than comes though in the book, but does come through in interviews at times.

Seems Morris had some unique opportunities he chose not to pursue. What an honor being asked to play Little Richard.

https://www.latimes.com/a...story.html

"It has been a bit more than a year since Day signed his deal at Fox, and part of the reason he has not yet shown up on screen is because he’s been quite selective about what the next movie will be. He turned down an offer to portray Little Richard. He passed on a Disney movie called “Off-Beat.” (“We begged him to do the movie,” says Disney chairman Jeff Katzenberg.) He read for “The Color Purple” and for Ron Howard’s “Gung Ho,” and has been reading scripts for months. “The right one just hasn’t come along yet,” he says with a shrug. “A starring role requires a lot of time, and I want to build to it.” "

[Edited 10/14/19 11:39am]

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Reply #113 posted 10/14/19 11:33am

LoveGalore

Well, for better or for worse, what remains in the public memory is what a band puts down on record. And as Prince proved, he didn't need anyone but Morris to make a hit with The Time.
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Reply #114 posted 10/14/19 1:07pm

kindofblue

Haven‘t read the Book yet, only Reviews and Interviews. Question: Is the 2008 Coachella Show mentioned in the book? Because that doesn‘t seem to fit the storyline that the both of them didn‘t have any contact after the cancellation of the 07/07/07 gig until shortly before his death.
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Reply #115 posted 10/14/19 1:51pm

violetcrush

mediumdry said:

yeah, his book is more an insight into how Prince worked with his associates than what happened within The Time. I'm guessing there are some big egos in that group that would be hurt by an open discussion on what goes on within that group of people. Instead of carefully being political about it, Morris just sidesteps it by not talking about it.

.

I find that it comes across as more as Morris saying that the band, while good, was not so important to the Prince product "the Time" as he was. He's saying "The Time is Prince and me", the other people in the band get talked about as being brilliant players that could upstage Prince's band, but that's about it. It feels more about making him more important and the rest of the band less so.

Well, to defend Morri's perspective just a bit - other than Jesse Johnson, it seems it was mainly Morris and Prince together in the studio working out songs and ideas. An example would be Cloreen Bacon Skin, which Prince wrote about in detail on the CB liner notes. He said it was just him and Morris doing an impromptu jam session together in the studio. Same with one of the earliest versions of International Lover - it was just Prince and Morris playing on that take, and Prince even calls out Morris at the end of the song. Seems as though that happened quite a bit in the earlier days.

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From what I've read elsewhere - and I don't yet have this book, so I'm not sure if Morris wrote about it - is that Morris was very angry that he did not get the drummer slot in Prince's first band. He wanted that job, and felt he deserved to have it. I'm sure Prince was already thinking ahead to creating another group for Morris, even before they set up meetings about The Time.

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I recently found a very old video from around 1991-92 on YT with Morris, Jerome, Jimmy and Terry in France talking about why things fell apart with the band during the making of Pandemonium. They were being somewhat discreet, but definitely stated - in so many words - that Prince wanted to control everything with the music, and I believe they also referenced not getting paid as they should have. I think once they went off on their own as The Original 7ven it became an ego problem with the group - too many chefs in the kitchen type of thing.

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Reply #116 posted 10/14/19 1:51pm

williamb610

ARGGGGGH!

You guys swiped my idea to tell everyone about Morris initially being P's videographer.

Hopefully, what he recorded is still in decent condition in the vault's tapes.

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Reply #117 posted 10/14/19 3:32pm

PennyPurple

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Then how can you comment if you haven't even read the book? Multiple paragraphs on a thread about the book, that you haven't even read.... sad

violetcrush said:

Well, to defend Morri's perspective just a bit - other than Jesse Johnson, it seems it was mainly Morris and Prince together in the studio working out songs and ideas. An example would be Cloreen Bacon Skin, which Prince wrote about in detail on the CB liner notes. He said it was just him and Morris doing an impromptu jam session together in the studio. Same with one of the earliest versions of International Lover - it was just Prince and Morris playing on that take, and Prince even calls out Morris at the end of the song. Seems as though that happened quite a bit in the earlier days.

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From what I've read elsewhere - and I don't yet have this book, so I'm not sure if Morris wrote about it - is that Morris was very angry that he did not get the drummer slot in Prince's first band. He wanted that job, and felt he deserved to have it. I'm sure Prince was already thinking ahead to creating another group for Morris, even before they set up meetings about The Time.

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I recently found a very old video from around 1991-92 on YT with Morris, Jerome, Jimmy and Terry in France talking about why things fell apart with the band during the making of Pandemonium. They were being somewhat discreet, but definitely stated - in so many words - that Prince wanted to control everything with the music, and I believe they also referenced not getting paid as they should have. I think once they went off on their own as The Original 7ven it became an ego problem with the group - too many chefs in the kitchen type of thing.

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Reply #118 posted 10/14/19 5:28pm

PennyPurple

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MoodyBlumes said:

Seems Morris had some unique opportunities he chose not to pursue. What an honor being asked to play Little Richard.

https://www.latimes.com/a...story.html

"It has been a bit more than a year since Day signed his deal at Fox, and part of the reason he has not yet shown up on screen is because he’s been quite selective about what the next movie will be. He turned down an offer to portray Little Richard. He passed on a Disney movie called “Off-Beat.” (“We begged him to do the movie,” says Disney chairman Jeff Katzenberg.) He read for “The Color Purple” and for Ron Howard’s “Gung Ho,” and has been reading scripts for months. “The right one just hasn’t come along yet,” he says with a shrug. “A starring role requires a lot of time, and I want to build to it.” "

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Yeah, he really shouldn't have passed up some of those roles.

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Reply #119 posted 10/14/19 6:05pm

violetcrush

PennyPurple said:



MoodyBlumes said:







Seems Morris had some unique opportunities he chose not to pursue. What an honor being asked to play Little Richard.


https://www.latimes.com/a...story.html


"It has been a bit more than a year since Day signed his deal at Fox, and part of the reason he has not yet shown up on screen is because he’s been quite selective about what the next movie will be. He turned down an offer to portray Little Richard. He passed on a Disney movie called “Off-Beat.” (“We begged him to do the movie,” says Disney chairman Jeff Katzenberg.) He read for “The Color Purple” and for Ron Howard’s “Gung Ho,” and has been reading scripts for months. “The right one just hasn’t come along yet,” he says with a shrug. “A starring role requires a lot of time, and I want to build to it.” "



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Yeah, he really shouldn't have passed up some of those roles.


I can’t believe he passed on The Color Purple. That would have been all he needed to disassociate from the PR Morris Day character.
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