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Reply #150 posted 10/18/19 2:21pm

williamb610

violetcrush said:

williamb610 said:

The part about Prince kicking him out of his house was pretty jarring for some reason. The part about Prince sharing and not wanting to share women with him was funny, but still jarring.

I never knew Morris was on drugs. So, that's weird to me. It was interesting to see that Prince was pimping it with the multiple women. I always thought he would but I had never had any indication, from an article or whatever women that slept with him that he was into orgies or whatever.(I never did take Zannalee to heart. No woman had ever confirmed it.)

Interesting book so far. I'm almost half done!

Zannalee was not about an orgy - just a "three-way" between him, his girlfriend and her sister. "She had a sister named "Fendi"....if you know the history it's not too hard to convert the names "Zannalee" and "Fendi" biggrin Of course, it could have been completely fabricated by Prince just to keep people questioning or guessing.

So, I guess Zannalee is Vanity. It's not Nandy or Maya, the twins. I guess it's not Robia or Lori Elle. Is 'Fendi' Susan Moonsie? eek

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Reply #151 posted 10/18/19 3:32pm

violetcrush

williamb610 said:



violetcrush said:




williamb610 said:


The part about Prince kicking him out of his house was pretty jarring for some reason. The part about Prince sharing and not wanting to share women with him was funny, but still jarring.



I never knew Morris was on drugs. So, that's weird to me. It was interesting to see that Prince was pimping it with the multiple women. I always thought he would but I had never had any indication, from an article or whatever women that slept with him that he was into orgies or whatever.(I never did take Zannalee to heart. No woman had ever confirmed it.)



Interesting book so far. I'm almost half done!




Zannalee was not about an orgy - just a "three-way" between him, his girlfriend and her sister. "She had a sister named "Fendi"....if you know the history it's not too hard to convert the names "Zannalee" and "Fendi" biggrin Of course, it could have been completely fabricated by Prince just to keep people questioning or guessing.





So, I guess Zannalee is Vanity. It's not Nandy or Maya, the twins. I guess it's not Robia or Lori Elle. Is 'Fendi' Susan Moonsie? eek


Um, no. "Zannalee" = SuZANNAH and her twin sister "Fendi" = Wendy. biggrin
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Yes, I know Wendy is gay, however if you listen to the lyrics it makes sense - "to get 'em in the mood I give 'em some cherry wine. Then we watch a movie - one of them dirty kind. Then we play some pool and they watch me "bank" (get) the "6 and the 9. Watch me bank it baby."
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Prince was SO clever with his play on words smile In the unreleased video for this song he has two curly haired twins playing "Zannalee" and "Fendi".
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Reply #152 posted 10/18/19 6:24pm

LoveGalore

violetcrush said:

williamb610 said:



violetcrush said:




williamb610 said:


The part about Prince kicking him out of his house was pretty jarring for some reason. The part about Prince sharing and not wanting to share women with him was funny, but still jarring.



I never knew Morris was on drugs. So, that's weird to me. It was interesting to see that Prince was pimping it with the multiple women. I always thought he would but I had never had any indication, from an article or whatever women that slept with him that he was into orgies or whatever.(I never did take Zannalee to heart. No woman had ever confirmed it.)



Interesting book so far. I'm almost half done!




Zannalee was not about an orgy - just a "three-way" between him, his girlfriend and her sister. "She had a sister named "Fendi"....if you know the history it's not too hard to convert the names "Zannalee" and "Fendi" biggrin Of course, it could have been completely fabricated by Prince just to keep people questioning or guessing.





So, I guess Zannalee is Vanity. It's not Nandy or Maya, the twins. I guess it's not Robia or Lori Elle. Is 'Fendi' Susan Moonsie? eek


Um, no. "Zannalee" = SuZANNAH and her twin sister "Fendi" = Wendy. biggrin
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Yes, I know Wendy is gay, however if you listen to the lyrics it makes sense - "to get 'em in the mood I give 'em some cherry wine. Then we watch a movie - one of them dirty kind. Then we play some pool and they watch me "bank" (get) the "6 and the 9. Watch me bank it baby."
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Prince was SO clever with his play on words smile In the unreleased video for this song he has two curly haired twins playing "Zannalee" and "Fendi".


And Dinner with Delores was a clear reference to Vanity.

All that being said, of course Prince had orgies before. Come on. He wrote songs about it, why wouldn't it be true.
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Reply #153 posted 10/18/19 6:39pm

violetcrush

LoveGalore said:

violetcrush said:


Um, no. "Zannalee" = SuZANNAH and her twin sister "Fendi" = Wendy. biggrin
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Yes, I know Wendy is gay, however if you listen to the lyrics it makes sense - "to get 'em in the mood I give 'em some cherry wine. Then we watch a movie - one of them dirty kind. Then we play some pool and they watch me "bank" (get) the "6 and the 9. Watch me bank it baby."
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Prince was SO clever with his play on words smile In the unreleased video for this song he has two curly haired twins playing "Zannalee" and "Fendi".


And Dinner with Delores was a clear reference to Vanity.

All that being said, of course Prince had orgies before. Come on. He wrote songs about it, why wouldn't it be true.

Oh he probably did.I'm sure he took part in many kinky situations smile
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Reply #154 posted 10/18/19 8:31pm

mrwiggles

Somehow I missed this was coming out. I came upon it today in a local bookstore and flipped thru it. I’m intrigued enough to read it. I had no idea Morris was out on blow.
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Reply #155 posted 10/18/19 10:11pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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violetcrush said:


Um, no. "Zannalee" = SuZANNAH and her twin sister "Fendi" = Wendy. biggrin * Yes, I know Wendy is gay, however if you listen to the lyrics it makes sense - "to get 'em in the mood I give 'em some cherry wine. Then we watch a movie - one of them dirty kind. Then we play some pool and they watch me "bank" (get) the "6 and the 9. Watch me bank it baby." * Prince was SO clever with his play on words smile In the unreleased video for this song he has two curly haired twins playing "Zannalee" and "Fendi".



Oh Lawdy.

Here we go again with the Susannah stanning on a thread about Morris' and not a thread about her.

Are you Susannah??

Or a relative of hers??

Seriously, why do you always find a why to insert Susannah into almost every song by P even years after he no longer had her on his mind? P only had her on his mind when he made her sign a promissory note to pay back the money he lent to her?

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Reply #156 posted 10/19/19 3:42am

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

violetcrush said:


Um, no. "Zannalee" = SuZANNAH and her twin sister "Fendi" = Wendy. biggrin * Yes, I know Wendy is gay, however if you listen to the lyrics it makes sense - "to get 'em in the mood I give 'em some cherry wine. Then we watch a movie - one of them dirty kind. Then we play some pool and they watch me "bank" (get) the "6 and the 9. Watch me bank it baby." * Prince was SO clever with his play on words smile In the unreleased video for this song he has two curly haired twins playing "Zannalee" and "Fendi".



Oh Lawdy.

Here we go again with the Susannah stanning on a thread about Morris' and not a thread about her.

Are you Susannah??

Or a relative of hers??

Seriously, why do you always find a why to insert Susannah into almost every song by P even years after he no longer had her on his mind? P only had her on his mind when he made her sign a promissory note to pay back the money he lent to her?

pimp

Heck Violet hasn't even read the book, and here she is. lol Projecting, changing the narrative, etc.etc.etc.

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Reply #157 posted 10/19/19 7:04am

violetcrush

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

violetcrush said:

Um, no. "Zannalee" = SuZANNAH and her twin sister "Fendi" = Wendy. biggrin * Yes, I know Wendy is gay, however if you listen to the lyrics it makes sense - "to get 'em in the mood I give 'em some cherry wine. Then we watch a movie - one of them dirty kind. Then we play some pool and they watch me "bank" (get) the "6 and the 9. Watch me bank it baby." * Prince was SO clever with his play on words smile In the unreleased video for this song he has two curly haired twins playing "Zannalee" and "Fendi".



Oh Lawdy.

Here we go again with the Susannah stanning on a thread about Morris' and not a thread about her.

Are you Susannah??

Or a relative of hers??

Seriously, why do you always find a why to insert Susannah into almost every song by P even years after he no longer had her on his mind? P only had her on his mind when he made her sign a promissory note to pay back the money he lent to her?

pimp

Oh Whatever ISLIJAG - and what are YOU doing with this thread by posting your snide comments about my discussion with someone else?? Why are you responding to my post that had nothing to do with you? I would say you are 100% de-railing the thread in order to start another one of your attacks. Pathetic.

LoveGalore started the back and forth about the song Zannalee. CLEARLY, you don't know the history. Prince was still in contact with her throughout the 90's. He recorded that song in 1993, and then put it on Chaos & Disorder.

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I could post the note he wrote to her in the mid-90's telling her he loved her and to please write to him, but that would just add your derailment.

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Reply #158 posted 10/19/19 7:06am

violetcrush

PennyPurple said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



Oh Lawdy.

Here we go again with the Susannah stanning on a thread about Morris' and not a thread about her.

Are you Susannah??

Or a relative of hers??

Seriously, why do you always find a why to insert Susannah into almost every song by P even years after he no longer had her on his mind? P only had her on his mind when he made her sign a promissory note to pay back the money he lent to her?

pimp

Heck Violet hasn't even read the book, and here she is. lol Projecting, changing the narrative, etc.etc.etc.

And right on cue, here comes PennyP to add to the harem attack lol Now that is two posts and counting by two members who had absolutely nothing to do with the discussion between myself and LoveGalore about a SONG inspiration.

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Reply #159 posted 10/19/19 7:47am

onlyforaminute

Despite the fact that Morris doesn't discuss any of Prince's relationships in this book you all still turned this thread into an argument about someone Prince was schtupping. How do you all do that consistantly? We gonna have to start calling you Dolores ain't a damned thing else on your minds.
Year of Return 2019
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Reply #160 posted 10/19/19 9:43am

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violetcrush said:

PennyPurple said:

Heck Violet hasn't even read the book, and here she is. lol Projecting, changing the narrative, etc.etc.etc.

And right on cue, here comes PennyP to add to the harem attack lol Now that is two posts and counting by two members who had absolutely nothing to do with the discussion between myself and LoveGalore about a SONG inspiration.

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"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances."prince 1985
"eye don't think about gone just think about the future when eye don't want 2 speak n real time" prince 2004
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Reply #161 posted 10/19/19 10:14am

violetcrush

ChocolateBox3121 said:

violetcrush said:

And right on cue, here comes PennyP to add to the harem attack lol Now that is two posts and counting by two members who had absolutely nothing to do with the discussion between myself and LoveGalore about a SONG inspiration.

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WOW, and now Choco has pulled out the infamous gif for further de-railment lol lol lol

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Reply #162 posted 10/19/19 1:12pm

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

violetcrush said:

And right on cue, here comes PennyP to add to the harem attack lol Now that is two posts and counting by two members who had absolutely nothing to do with the discussion between myself and LoveGalore about a SONG inspiration.

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spit jester lol

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #163 posted 10/19/19 8:54pm

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Morris' Prelude made me teary eyed.



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Reply #164 posted 10/20/19 9:57am

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For those who have read the book, why did Prince do Morris so bad over the 7/7/7 show? Is there something other then Morris not wanting to stay at the Motel, Prince wanted them to?

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Reply #165 posted 10/20/19 11:02am

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Morris & author David Ritz at the 35th anniversary screening of Purple Rain in the beautiful, TCL Chinese theater home to the most prominent red carpet movie premieres and special events. It’s where Hollywood's biggest and brightest stars come to watch their movies! The theater has the unique Forecourt of the Stars, which features cement hand and footprints of major movie stars from past to present.Including Eddie Murphy & MEGA star Will Smith.

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances."prince 1985
"eye don't think about gone just think about the future when eye don't want 2 speak n real time" prince 2004
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Reply #166 posted 10/22/19 11:31am

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Read the book and enjoyed it. I actually liked Morris's thoughts on what his brother would say.

When you know someone that long, you know their reactions.

One thing that is plainly clear, he LOVED Prince and he misses him dearly.
Because of their half-baked mistakes, we get ice cream, no cake; all lies, no truth; is it fair to Kill the YOUTH ~~ Party Up
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Reply #167 posted 10/23/19 6:53pm

MoodyBlumes

BklynDiamond said:

Read the book and enjoyed it. I actually liked Morris's thoughts on what his brother would say. When you know someone that long, you know their reactions. One thing that is plainly clear, he LOVED Prince and he misses him dearly.

How is it love to write a book after Prince has died which accuses him of using Grand Central demos to get signed to Warner Bros.? And what would the real Prince say? Prince worked with Chris Moon for almost a year before even meeting Owen Husney, then David Z (Rivkin), Bobby Z's brother, worked with him at Sound 80 making the demos that were shopped to the record companies / got him signed to Warners.

Per Nilsen's 'Dance Music Sex Romance, Prince: The First Decade', p. 24-33

"As it turned out, Prince's deal with (Chris) Moon effectively marked the end of Champagne.... Prince had to leave his guitar and amplifier to LaVonne Daughterty (Morris' mother) when he parted ways with Champagne. 'I was there when Prince came home without his Stratocaster', Charles recalls. 'He was so mad! It really hurt because he didn't have any instruments when LaVonne took his guitar. It was really ugly. Chris Moon hooked him up with some gear.' Champagne tried to continue without Prince, but called it quits after only a few months."

"Prince worked tirelessly around the clock in Moon's studio, often staying the entire weekend... One of the first songs Prince composed by himself, both lyrics and music, was "Baby", which materialised on 'For You' in 1978" "In addition to the tracks Prince committed to tape at Moon's studio, he recorded many songs and musical ideas on a simple cassette recorder; his song writing was already prolific.

"In the meantime, Moon played Prince's demo tape to Owen Husney, who ran The Ad Company, an advertising agency in Minneapolis... Husney called Prince in New York to express his interest in becoming his manager. 'He was at his sister's house. He was really quiet...."

"The next step was to contact David Rivkin and get him to help Prince put together a new demo at Sound 80 in Minneapolis where Rivkin was now working. Husney felt the songs Prince had recorded at Moonsound 'weren't by any means ready for presentation to a company, albeit they showed the talent.'

"Prince and Rivkin spent the entire winter of 1976-77 at Sound 80, re-recording some of the Moonsound songs.

"For the demo tape, Prince and Husney chose 'Baby' and 'Soft and Wet'... The Sound 80 sessions were important in shaping Prince's future musical style since it was the first time he worked with synthesizers, including an Oberheim 4-Voice...

"Husney and Levinson put together a press kit in order to promote Prince to the record companies."

Owen Husney donated the press kit / demo to the Minnesota Historical Society:

https://www.mnhs.org/media/news/10962

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Reply #168 posted 10/24/19 1:11pm

funksterr

It's some BOMBSHELLS in this book if you paying attention. As usual y'all really not.
"Fellas I need some nasty bass!" biggrin

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Reply #169 posted 10/24/19 2:23pm

violetcrush

MoodyBlumes said:



BklynDiamond said:


Read the book and enjoyed it. I actually liked Morris's thoughts on what his brother would say. When you know someone that long, you know their reactions. One thing that is plainly clear, he LOVED Prince and he misses him dearly.


How is it love to write a book after Prince has died which accuses him of using Grand Central demos to get signed to Warner Bros.? And what would the real Prince say? Prince worked with Chris Moon for almost a year before even meeting Owen Husney, then David Z (Rivkin), Bobby Z's brother, worked with him at Sound 80 making the demos that were shopped to the record companies / got him signed to Warners.




Per Nilsen's 'Dance Music Sex Romance, Prince: The First Decade', p. 24-33



"As it turned out, Prince's deal with (Chris) Moon effectively marked the end of Champagne.... Prince had to leave his guitar and amplifier to LaVonne Daughterty (Morris' mother) when he parted ways with Champagne. 'I was there when Prince came home without his Stratocaster', Charles recalls. 'He was so mad! It really hurt because he didn't have any instruments when LaVonne took his guitar. It was really ugly. Chris Moon hooked him up with some gear.' Champagne tried to continue without Prince, but called it quits after only a few months."




"Prince worked tirelessly around the clock in Moon's studio, often staying the entire weekend... One of the first songs Prince composed by himself, both lyrics and music, was "Baby", which materialised on 'For You' in 1978" "In addition to the tracks Prince committed to tape at Moon's studio, he recorded many songs and musical ideas on a simple cassette recorder; his song writing was already prolific.




"In the meantime, Moon played Prince's demo tape to Owen Husney, who ran The Ad Company, an advertising agency in Minneapolis... Husney called Prince in New York to express his interest in becoming his manager. 'He was at his sister's house. He was really quiet...."


"The next step was to contact David Rivkin and get him to help Prince put together a new demo at Sound 80 in Minneapolis where Rivkin was now working. Husney felt the songs Prince had recorded at Moonsound 'weren't by any means ready for presentation to a company, albeit they showed the talent.'


"Prince and Rivkin spent the entire winter of 1976-77 at Sound 80, re-recording some of the Moonsound songs.


"For the demo tape, Prince and Husney chose 'Baby' and 'Soft and Wet'... The Sound 80 sessions were important in shaping Prince's future musical style since it was the first time he worked with synthesizers, including an Oberheim 4-Voice...


"Husney and Levinson put together a press kit in order to promote Prince to the record companies."



Owen Husney donated the press kit / demo to the Minnesota Historical Society:


https://www.mnhs.org/media/news/10962


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Right. This has all been discussed and confirmed with both Chris Moon and Owen Husney - also Bobby Z, who was an errand boy for Chris Moon where he got to know Prince from seeing him at Moon’s studio all the time. He talked about it during his interview with Questlove.
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Reply #170 posted 10/26/19 5:01am

donnyenglish

My quick take:
- Prince lived a very clean life in terms of drugs and alcohol. I believe that Morris was close enough to know.
- Morris and Prince were like brothers.
- Prince would turn on people quickly and took advantage of people at times.
- I am very intrigued by the work Prince and Morris did at Paisley during the Musicology era.
- Morris had more contribution to The Time and some of the songs on Prince’s albums than we thought.
- I would kill to hear any recording by Grand Central Station.
- Prince knew he did not have much time.
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Reply #171 posted 10/26/19 6:55am

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Read it. To each it's own for the ones that thought this was a great book. He didn't reveal anything significant. I didn't really learn nothing new except for how low he sunk in drugs, and even the details on that was vague. The whole whole book was written in vague details. The part where Prince threw him out of his house was heartbreaking. Other than that, it was a forgettable book. I doubt anyone is gonna be talking about or quoting from this book in a few months.

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Reply #172 posted 10/26/19 7:12am

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icecreamcastle777 said:

Read it. To each it's own for the ones that thought this was a great book. He didn't reveal anything significant. I didn't really learn nothing new except for how low he sunk in drugs, and even the details on that was vague. The whole whole book was written in vague details. The part where Prince threw him out of his house was heartbreaking. Other than that, it was an unforgettable book. I doubt anyone is gonna be talking about or quoting from this book in a few months.

Did you really mean to say "forgettable"? Because it sounds like that was what you meant.

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #173 posted 10/26/19 7:21am

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Mumio said:

icecreamcastle777 said:

Read it. To each it's own for the ones that thought this was a great book. He didn't reveal anything significant. I didn't really learn nothing new except for how low he sunk in drugs, and even the details on that was vague. The whole whole book was written in vague details. The part where Prince threw him out of his house was heartbreaking. Other than that, it was an unforgettable book. I doubt anyone is gonna be talking about or quoting from this book in a few months.

Did you really mean to say "forgettable"? Because it sounds like that was what you meant.

Yeah, you're right. "forgettable" Thanks for pointing out.

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Reply #174 posted 10/26/19 7:35am

violetcrush

donnyenglish said:

My quick take:
- Prince lived a very clean life in terms of drugs and alcohol. I believe that Morris was close enough to know.
- Morris and Prince were like brothers.
- Prince would turn on people quickly and took advantage of people at times.
- I am very intrigued by the work Prince and Morris did at Paisley during the Musicology era.
- Morris had more contribution to The Time and some of the songs on Prince’s albums than we thought.
- I would kill to hear any recording by Grand Central Station.
- Prince knew he did not have much time.

Thanks for the bullet points on the book. This is why I waited. Seems as though, with the exception of a couple personal stories, most of the information has been out there in one form or another.
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Reply #175 posted 10/26/19 7:21pm

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I get my book this Friday.....I cannot wait woot!

Keep Calm & Listen To Prince
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Reply #176 posted 10/28/19 4:30pm

PeggyO

The Prince "voice" is off-putting to me...seems like an uncomfortable power imbalance between "friends".

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Reply #177 posted 10/29/19 3:17am

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https://www.demorgen.be/t...~b46f843b/

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Long review contrasting The Beautiful Ones with Morris Day's On Time in Belgian newspaper De Morgen today (in Dutch). In the newspaper there is a big photo on the front page of the newspaper, and the review takes up the first 1.5 page of the second section of the newspaper. (I'll post photos later.)

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Reply #178 posted 10/29/19 7:32am

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So Prince tried to convert Morris to the Jehovah's Witness proceeding removing the Time from the 7.7.20077 shows?

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What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
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Reply #179 posted 10/29/19 9:22am

violetcrush

BartVanHemelen said:

https://www.demorgen.be/t...~b46f843b/


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Long review contrasting The Beautiful Ones with Morris Day's On Time in Belgian newspaper De Morgen today (in Dutch). In the newspaper there is a big photo on the front page of the newspaper, and the review takes up the first 1.5 page of the second section of the newspaper. (I'll post photos later.)


Seems as though De Morgen does not have too much praise for Morris’s book. Although, it’s understandable that most would prefer Prince’s, so not really fair to compare the two.
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