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Morris E. Day's New Book - On Time: A Princely Life in Funk - Available October 8

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The advance press release for Morris Day's upcoming memoir promised the book would contain "unexpected twists."


Now that the first pages from On Time: A Princely Life in Funk have been made public, a distinctive approach is revealed: "Prince" serves as co-narrator for large sections of the story.


................. On Time: A Princely Life in Funk arrives on Oct. 8.



Source:

September 18, 2019


https://ultimateprince.co...oDtTOrL2Qk



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Reply #1 posted 09/19/19 6:03am

OldFriends4Sale

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I look 4ward 2 this one

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Reply #2 posted 09/19/19 9:05am

Strive

???

What's it mean by Prince is co-narrator? He actually wrote, or dictated, his POV or Morris, and his co-writer, are imagining what his view would be? If it's the latter, my interest in this book has plummeted.

Free the music, fire Michael Howe
Reply #3 posted 09/19/19 11:18am

williamb610

You may not like it, but I do! I like the thought of what he thinks Prince's perspective would be, looking over his shoulder commenting. I like the preview and plan on getting it at the same time as I get Prince's book on Kindle!

There's a preview of Morris' book on Amazon.

Reply #4 posted 09/19/19 12:22pm

Mumio

Strive said:

???

What's it mean by Prince is co-narrator? He actually wrote, or dictated, his POV or Morris, and his co-writer, are imagining what his view would be? If it's the latter, my interest in this book has plummeted.

There's a good preview of the book on Amazon. You should check it out.

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
Reply #5 posted 09/19/19 1:25pm

ian

Looking forward to this! I notice there's an audio book as well, it would be so good if Morris does the narration himself. Fingers crossed.

Reply #6 posted 09/19/19 2:01pm

Strive

Mumio said:

Strive said:

???

What's it mean by Prince is co-narrator? He actually wrote, or dictated, his POV or Morris, and his co-writer, are imagining what his view would be? If it's the latter, my interest in this book has plummeted.

There's a good preview of the book on Amazon. You should check it out.

Read it and really dislike the concept. It's disrespectful to Prince and Prince's religious beliefs.

And somebody should have tipped Morris off that Prince used all caps in his later life.

Free the music, fire Michael Howe
Reply #7 posted 09/19/19 5:24pm

steakfinger

Strive said:

Mumio said:

There's a good preview of the book on Amazon. You should check it out.

Read it and really dislike the concept. It's disrespectful to Prince and Prince's religious beliefs.

And somebody should have tipped Morris off that Prince used all caps in his later life.

I think Morris knew that Prince (like most AARP-aged people), seemed to have the caps lock on at all time without noticing.

Reply #8 posted 09/19/19 6:58pm

funksterr

williamb610 said:

You may not like it, but I do! I like the thought of what he thinks Prince's perspective would be, looking over his shoulder commenting. I like the preview and plan on getting it at the same time as I get Prince's book on Kindle!

There's a preview of Morris' book on Amazon.

Yep. Prince was many things to many people.

Reply #9 posted 09/20/19 10:01am

ecnirp98

Strive said:

???

What's it mean by Prince is co-narrator? He actually wrote, or dictated, his POV or Morris, and his co-writer, are imagining what his view would be? If it's the latter, my interest in this book has plummeted.

I bet this book would not be released if Prince was still alive, he would not be a co-narrator.... who really knows what Prince would have though at the time, unless he was recorded speaking about it, how can it ever be relied upon? seems a silly claim to me to try and sell it to the Prince fans, many of which would have bought it anyways without Prince 'Narration'

Reply #10 posted 09/20/19 7:24pm

AnotherJourneyByTrain

williamb610 said:

You may not like it, but I do!  I like the thought of what he thinks Prince's perspective would be, looking over his shoulder commenting.  I like the preview and plan on getting it at the same time as I get Prince's book on Kindle!


 


There's a preview of Morris' book on Amazon.



I’m on board as well. Might be kind of entertaining — and it’s cool to have insight into Morris’ perceptions of Prince’s personality. I mean, hey, he actually worked with the guy for years, so that’s gotta count for something! wink
Reply #11 posted 09/20/19 11:24pm

mediumdry

Read the (longer than I thought it would be) preview. I was a lot more entertained by the writing than I thought I would be. The "conversation" works well and it's close the voice I think Prince would have.

Can't wait to read the full thing!

Reply #12 posted 09/21/19 10:39pm

Goddess4Real

ian said:

Looking forward to this! I notice there's an audio book as well, it would be so good if Morris does the narration himself. Fingers crossed.

yeahthat that would be awesome nod

Keep Calm & Listen To Prince
Reply #13 posted 09/22/19 2:20pm

CoolMF

The fact that David Ritz is attached to this is very interesting to say the least. I'll be interested in hearing more about this when it's released- may have to check it out.

Reply #14 posted 09/23/19 2:13am

Vannormal

ian said:

Looking forward to this! I notice there's an audio book as well, it would be so good if Morris does the narration himself. Fingers crossed.

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Should be very funny to hear Morris foolin' like they both used to do together.

Morris IS funny.

But I think what he wants us to know is how good he knew Prince, personally.

They kind of grew musically together, a shaped base for both.

Meaning that he can translate and recap how Prince would've said it.

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Looking forward to it.

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"...no matter what, all will be fine, always."
Reply #15 posted 09/23/19 5:29am

leecaldon

I'm sold on reading the first few pages.

Reply #16 posted 09/23/19 8:09am

PURPLEIZED3121

weird concept & it's put me off.

Reply #17 posted 09/28/19 5:52am

funkaholic1972

I read a bit of the preview and I also kinda like the style of the book, I am certainly curious enough to give it a go.

RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time!
Reply #18 posted 09/28/19 2:31pm

looby

OldFriends4Sale said:

I look 4ward 2 this one

So do I, I love Morris and look forward to what he has to say.

Reply #19 posted 09/29/19 11:45pm

RJOrion

👀
Reply #20 posted 09/30/19 4:37pm

violetcrush

steakfinger said:

Strive said:

Read it and really dislike the concept. It's disrespectful to Prince and Prince's religious beliefs.

And somebody should have tipped Morris off that Prince used all caps in his later life.

I think Morris knew that Prince (like most AARP-aged people), seemed to have the caps lock on at all time without noticing.

I think Prince's use of caps was purposeful, and not because he didn't notice.

Reply #21 posted 09/30/19 5:52pm

RJOrion

"... Lets have some asses wigglin'....i want some perfection..."
Reply #22 posted 09/30/19 6:05pm

violetcrush

RJOrion said:

"... Lets have some asses wigglin'....i want some perfection..."


“The password is what??” He and Jerome were so good in PR cool
Reply #23 posted 10/01/19 2:07pm

onlyforaminute

excited one week
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Reply #24 posted 10/01/19 11:37pm

funksterr

Fellas are we ready? I do believe we are ready. AHHHHHhhhh Let's go

Reply #25 posted 10/04/19 9:43am

felixcat67

Morris Day Book Signing @ Mall of America. KOOL 108 welcomes Morris Day to the Mall of America on October 11th from 4-6pm, where he will be signing copies of this new book “On Time: A princely Life in Funk.
https://mallofamerica.com/events/view/25742


On Wednesday October 16, 2019, TCL Chinese Theatres is hosting a special 35th anniversary screening of Purple Rain alongside a q&a with Morris Day. The film originally premiered at the theatre on July 26, 1984.

Morris Day will also be signing copies of his new book, On Time: A Princely Life in Funk, at the event. Books will be available for purchase at the event.

The schedule for the evening -

6:30 pm - book signing

7:30 pm - Q&A with Morris Day

8:00 pm - Purple Rain

http://www.tclchinesetheatres.com/coming-soon/
[Edited 10/4/19 10:02am]
Reply #26 posted 10/07/19 3:23am

BartVanHemelen

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Reply #27 posted 10/07/19 4:07am

RJOrion

cant. wait.
Reply #28 posted 10/07/19 1:07pm

onlyforaminute

1 day. Not seeing it on Audible yet. I don't have Kindle.
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Reply #29 posted 10/07/19 1:10pm

BartVanHemelen

Jon Bream talks to Morris Day about his memoir “On Time: A Princely Life in Funk” for the Minneapolis Star Tribune:

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http://www.startribune.co...562430972/

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The paper has also published an excerpt: http://www.startribune.co...562430982/

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Reply #30 posted 10/07/19 5:57pm

violetcrush

BartVanHemelen said:

Jon Bream talks to Morris Day about his memoir “On Time: A Princely Life in Funk” for the Minneapolis Star Tribune:


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http://www.startribune.com/prince-haunts-morris-day-s-new-memoir-i-still-hear-his-voice-in-my-head/562430972/


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The paper has also published an excerpt: http://www.startribune.com/excerpt-of-a-dialogue-between-prince-and-morris-day-from-the-book-on-time/562430982/


Wow, he’s quite candid. The story about him showing up at Prince’s house barefoot in the snow to get money from him for drugs, and lying about needing bail money for his brother - seems it will be an honest telling of his time with Prince.
Reply #31 posted 10/07/19 9:50pm

williamb610

Just got mine over the Inner Net! Listening to 'Crystal Ball', the song, Morris Day and given how he wrote this whole damn book...PRINCE!

I'll probably read a chapter then head off to bed!

Reply #32 posted 10/07/19 9:58pm

williamb610

Damn!

Morris is 62! Doesn't look it...just like I don't look my age. Tell the women you're 21 and keep it moving. Get all the drawers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol

Reply #33 posted 10/08/19 6:50am

onlyforaminute

It's on Audible. biggrin
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Reply #34 posted 10/08/19 10:20am

williamb610

onlyforaminute said:

It's on Audible. biggrin

Audible is used by Amazon, correct?

Who's reading the book to you? Morris?

Reply #35 posted 10/08/19 10:30am

ladygirl99

williamb610 said:

Damn!

Morris is 62! Doesn't look it...just like I don't look my age. Tell the women you're 21 and keep it moving. Get all the drawers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol

Hahahahahaha. But I think Morris is happily married but I see your point if he was single and still in a playa mode. lol

Reply #36 posted 10/08/19 11:02am

Mumio

Arrived here today smile

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
Reply #37 posted 10/08/19 11:16am

onlyforaminute

That's right. "The World Emperor" lol
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Reply #38 posted 10/08/19 12:05pm

onlyforaminute

I'm curious. Let's see.
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Reply #39 posted 10/08/19 1:47pm

rnb

Just finished reading this book on kindle while simultaneously listening to it on audible. Very interesting take and perspective from Morris Day. I thoroughly enjoyed this book. However, the audible experience would have been a 1000 times better if Morris Day would have done the narration himself! I would have had this audible book on constant repeat if Morris was reading - not taking anything away from Ron Butler but he ain't no Morris Day!

Reply #40 posted 10/08/19 3:28pm

onlyforaminute

rnb said:

Just finished reading this book on kindle while simultaneously listening to it on audible. Very interesting take and perspective from Morris Day. I thoroughly enjoyed this book. However, the audible experience would have been a 1000 times better if Morris Day would have done the narration himself! I would have had this audible book on constant repeat if Morris was reading - not taking anything away from Ron Butler but he ain't no Morris Day!




I wish it were Morris too. That would be the cherry. I'll have to see later if my hardcopy came today. But I'm enjoying the hell out of this.



Yep, seems to be exactly what's going on. How utterly boring. All i got to say.
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Reply #41 posted 10/08/19 3:42pm

onlyforaminute

The Beautiful Ones is also supposed to be on Audible on its release date. Im not sure how that's supposed to work im waiting on my hard copies for that one.
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Reply #42 posted 10/08/19 3:47pm

djkebi

[Snip - luv4u]

Reply #43 posted 10/08/19 6:22pm

LovePaisley

Can this thread evolve into a book discussion? Avoiding spoilers.

Page 30, bottom.

reading eek
And the MUSIC continues...forever...
Reply #44 posted 10/08/19 6:41pm

onlyforaminute

LovePaisley said:

Can this thread evolve into a book discussion? Avoiding spoilers.

Page 30, bottom.

reading eek

If i got my hardcopy today im down with it.
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Reply #45 posted 10/08/19 7:15pm

PennyPurple

I'm still waiting for mine. sad And it hasn't even shipped yet.

Reply #46 posted 10/08/19 7:43pm

MickyDolenz

djkebi said:

Morris worked at the rental car counter of a Montgomery Ward department store.

He mentioned this on the DVD that came with the Condensate album, although I don't think he said the name of the rental place. It's been awhile since I've watched it.

For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
Reply #47 posted 10/08/19 8:59pm

onlyforaminute

Nope, didn't get my hardcopy yet.
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Reply #48 posted 10/08/19 9:03pm

onlyforaminute

williamb610 said:

 



onlyforaminute said:


It's on Audible. biggrin

 


Audible is used by Amazon, correct?


 


Who's reading the book to you?  Morris?


Audible is Amazon. Read by Ron Butler.

i don't know the song the book opens with but I liked it
[Edited 10/8/19 21:05pm]
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Reply #49 posted 10/09/19 6:13am

purplethunder3121

cool

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
Reply #50 posted 10/09/19 8:27am

laytonian

LovePaisley said:

Can this thread evolve into a book discussion? Avoiding spoilers. Page 30, bottom. reading eek


I have to go grab my copy. i read two bombshells; one i believe, one i do not. Now i wonder if you're pointing to one of them.

EDIT: Yes, that is the thing i do not believe. Those songs were Soft and Wet, Baby and another. Both Chris Moon and Owen Husney were involved in the writing and recording.

[Edited 10/9/19 9:29am]

Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
Reply #51 posted 10/09/19 10:08am

onlyforaminute

laytonian said:

 



LovePaisley said:


Can this thread evolve into a book discussion? Avoiding spoilers. Page 30, bottom. reading eek


I have to go grab my copy.  i read two bombshells; one i believe, one i do not.  Now i wonder if you're pointing to one of them.

EDIT:  Yes, that is the thing i do not believe.  Those songs were Soft and Wet, Baby and another.  Both Chris Moon and Owen Husney were involved in the writing and recording.

[Edited 10/9/19 9:29am]


Chapter?
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Reply #52 posted 10/09/19 10:33am

laytonian

onlyforaminute said:

laytonian said:


I have to go grab my copy. i read two bombshells; one i believe, one i do not. Now i wonder if you're pointing to one of them.

EDIT: Yes, that is the thing i do not believe. Those songs were Soft and Wet, Baby and another. Both Chris Moon and Owen Husney were involved in the writing and recording.

[Edited 10/9/19 9:29am]

Chapter?


You were pointed to the exact paragraph, above, by LovePaisley.

[Edited 10/9/19 10:34am]

Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
Reply #53 posted 10/09/19 10:50am

onlyforaminute

laytonian said:

 



onlyforaminute said:


laytonian said:

 



I have to go grab my copy.  i read two bombshells; one i believe, one i do not.  Now i wonder if you're pointing to one of them.

EDIT:  Yes, that is the thing i do not believe.  Those songs were Soft and Wet, Baby and another.  Both Chris Moon and Owen Husney were involved in the writing and recording.


[Edited 10/9/19 9:29am]



Chapter?


You were pointed to the exact paragraph, above,  by LovePaisley.

[Edited 10/9/19 10:34am]


Well until my hardcopy arrives I'm working with Audible so the paragraph isn't helpful.
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Reply #54 posted 10/09/19 11:39am

laytonian

onlyforaminute said:

laytonian said:


You were pointed to the exact paragraph, above, by LovePaisley.

[Edited 10/9/19 10:34am]

Well until my hardcopy arrives I'm working with Audible so the paragraph isn't helpful.


So you didn't even bother to look at the post that tells you THE PAGE NUMBER?

Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
Reply #55 posted 10/09/19 12:16pm

onlyforaminute

laytonian said:

 



onlyforaminute said:


laytonian said:

 



You were pointed to the exact paragraph, above,  by LovePaisley.


[Edited 10/9/19 10:34am]



Well until my hardcopy arrives I'm working with Audible so the paragraph isn't helpful.


So you didn't even bother to look at the post that tells you THE PAGE NUMBER?
 
 


You're not understanding. I'm LISTENING to the book, I DO NOT HAVE PRINTED WORDS IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW. That's Audible. It tells me chapters, not page numbers or paragraphs or lines.
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Reply #56 posted 10/09/19 1:15pm

laytonian

onlyforaminute said:

laytonian said:


So you didn't even bother to look at the post that tells you THE PAGE NUMBER?

You're not understanding. I'm LISTENING to the book, I DO NOT HAVE PRINTED WORDS IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW. That's Audible. It tells me chapters, not page numbers or paragraphs or lines.


Then you need to solve your own deficiency by buying a proper book.

Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
Reply #57 posted 10/09/19 1:29pm

onlyforaminute

laytonian said:

 



onlyforaminute said:


laytonian said:

 



So you didn't even bother to look at the post that tells you THE PAGE NUMBER?
 
 



You're not understanding. I'm LISTENING to the book, I DO NOT HAVE PRINTED WORDS IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW. That's Audible. It tells me chapters, not page numbers or paragraphs or lines.


Then you need to solve your own deficiency by buying a proper book.


 




What an unproductive arrogant ass you're working hard to be. I'm not here about you so...my world continues on.
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Reply #58 posted 10/09/19 1:55pm

daPrettyman

I downloaded the audiobook from Audible and listened all day yesterday and most of the day today. It is a very interesting book. I learned a few new tidbits about their relationship that I never knew. I also learned that they recorded music at different points in their career. Some I knew about, some I didn't.

I really liked how Morris opened up about his personal life. I knew he was married a couple of times, but he was never one to broadcast his business in the street. He also never really mentioned his wives, kids or family too much. He went kind of deep in parts about his life and I applaud that.

I also loved how he shed more light as to why Jesse was in and out of the group. He didn't go into deep detail, but he did mention the root of the issue.

In the audiobook, it did get confusing hearing Morris, Prince and "MD" (his ego from Purple Rain) all have conversations. The actor that was reading didn't do a good job distinguishing the 3 voices to me.

I highly recommend it. It was funny at times, yet sad at times.

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Reply #59 posted 10/09/19 2:18pm

RudeNephew

Just finished the Kindle version and loved it. I don't mind Morris using Prince in the narrative. Afterall, he is part of the narrative when it comes to Morris and the Time.

Get Wild!
Reply #60 posted 10/09/19 2:20pm

funksterr

Absolutely perfect! touched

Reply #61 posted 10/09/19 2:43pm

BartVanHemelen

Lotsa spoilers in this review by The Current: https://www.thecurrent.or...ay-on-time

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Reply #62 posted 10/09/19 4:15pm

luv4u

Moderator

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BartVanHemelen said:

Lotsa spoilers in this review by The Current: https://www.thecurrent.or...ay-on-time


Will get. I don't want to read any spoilers giggle

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Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture!
REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince
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Reply #63 posted 10/09/19 4:22pm

LovePaisley

onlyforaminute said:

laytonian said:

 



onlyforaminute said:


laytonian said:

 



You were pointed to the exact paragraph, above,  by LovePaisley.


[Edited 10/9/19 10:34am]



Well until my hardcopy arrives I'm working with Audible so the paragraph isn't helpful.


So you didn't even bother to look at the post that tells you THE PAGE NUMBER?
 
 


You're not understanding. I'm LISTENING to the book, I DO NOT HAVE PRINTED WORDS IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW. That's Audible. It tells me chapters, not page numbers or paragraphs or lines.


Chapter 4, Good Times, towards the end.
wink
[Edited 10/9/19 16:22pm]
And the MUSIC continues...forever...
Reply #64 posted 10/09/19 4:24pm

RJOrion

i agree with "daPrettyman"....on the audiobook, its hard to distinguish the different voices of Morris, MD, and Prince at times...compelling stories and a great listen nonetheless...
Reply #65 posted 10/09/19 4:28pm

LovePaisley

luv4u said:

 



BartVanHemelen said:


Lotsa spoilers in this review by The Current: https://www.thecurrent.org/feature/2019/10/08/morris-day-on-time




Will get.  I don't want to read any spoilers giggle



Deleted! biggrin

I'm avoiding any preview of The Beautiful Ones. No pix, no quotes. There's so little of Prince's writing in there, I don't want to waste a word of it. Like a movie that gives all the great parts away in the trailers. shhh zipped
And the MUSIC continues...forever...
Reply #66 posted 10/09/19 5:17pm

luv4u

Moderator

moderator

LovePaisley said:

luv4u said:


Will get. I don't want to read any spoilers giggle

Deleted! biggrin I'm avoiding any preview of The Beautiful Ones. No pix, no quotes. There's so little of Prince's writing in there, I don't want to waste a word of it. Like a movie that gives all the great parts away in the trailers. shhh zipped


Posting any pictures or paragraphs would be in copy right violation.

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Reply #67 posted 10/09/19 5:28pm

onlyforaminute

LovePaisley said:

onlyforaminute said:


You're not understanding. I'm LISTENING to the book, I DO NOT HAVE PRINTED WORDS IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW. That's Audible. It tells me chapters, not page numbers or paragraphs or lines.


Chapter 4, Good Times, towards the end.
wink
[Edited 10/9/19 16:22pm]

The demo?
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Reply #68 posted 10/09/19 6:02pm

onlyforaminute

Oh yeah i got a glitch on chapter 13, goes to chapter 14 mid-sentence.
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Reply #69 posted 10/09/19 6:35pm

onlyforaminute

It in a strange way it's the id, ego and super-ego. Don't know which is which
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Reply #70 posted 10/09/19 6:40pm

funksterr

Thank You Thank You Thank You Thank You Thank You

Reply #71 posted 10/10/19 2:04am

BartVanHemelen

onlyforaminute said:

LovePaisley said:
Chapter 4, Good Times, towards the end. wink [Edited 10/9/19 16:22pm]
The demo?

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Yeah, I have no clue what "bombshell" I'm supposed to see there, certainly nothing about Husney and/or Moon co-writing various tracks. I've searched for both their names throughout the e-book and found nothing even remotely like that.

.

LovePaisley better be providing some solid evidence, because it's looking like they're spouting lies so far. Post the first words of the sentence that starts the paragraph that's supposedly so controversial instead of these stupid vague clues.

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Reply #72 posted 10/10/19 6:59am

JoeyCococo

BartVanHemelen said:

onlyforaminute said:

LovePaisley said: The demo?

.

Yeah, I have no clue what "bombshell" I'm supposed to see there, certainly nothing about Husney and/or Moon co-writing various tracks. I've searched for both their names throughout the e-book and found nothing even remotely like that.

.

LovePaisley better be providing some solid evidence, because it's looking like they're spouting lies so far. Post the first words of the sentence that starts the paragraph that's supposedly so controversial instead of these stupid vague clues.

No spoilers - but I have to say, this is a FANTASTIC read. We finally hear from a peer, someone very close. In his lifetime we heard nothing so not to shake that mystery. Since his passing, so many great great stories have come out. However, this one may be the best recounting and description of who Prince was and how he was formed. Morris' explanations are super..he does not sugar coat the fact that Prince was a TOTAL control freak but he also does not hold back on how much of a genius he believes Prince was. His recounting of Prince being an amazing guitarist siting all the bands he listened to and emulated....Clapton, Jimmy Page etc. I have always wondered what Prince was listening to as a child/young man. Morris offers lots of info..

LOVE IT.

..and yes...would LOVE to have heard him read this in his Morris voice and style.

Reply #73 posted 10/10/19 7:53am

laytonian

BartVanHemelen said:

onlyforaminute said:

LovePaisley said: The demo?

.

Yeah, I have no clue what "bombshell" I'm supposed to see there, certainly nothing about Husney and/or Moon co-writing various tracks. I've searched for both their names throughout the e-book and found nothing even remotely like that.

.

LovePaisley better be providing some solid evidence, because it's looking like they're spouting lies so far. Post the first words of the sentence that starts the paragraph that's supposedly so controversial instead of these stupid vague clues.


Bottom page 33, where MD claims that P lied about the demo tapes submitted to the record companies.

The other is the fact that MD videotaped P's openings for the Rolling Stones, giving hope that it was in the vault.

Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
Reply #74 posted 10/10/19 11:32am

JoeyCococo

laytonian said:

BartVanHemelen said:

.

Yeah, I have no clue what "bombshell" I'm supposed to see there, certainly nothing about Husney and/or Moon co-writing various tracks. I've searched for both their names throughout the e-book and found nothing even remotely like that.

.

LovePaisley better be providing some solid evidence, because it's looking like they're spouting lies so far. Post the first words of the sentence that starts the paragraph that's supposedly so controversial instead of these stupid vague clues.


Bottom page 33, where MD claims that P lied about the demo tapes submitted to the record companies.

The other is the fact that MD videotaped P's openings for the Rolling Stones, giving hope that it was in the vault.

yes, noted that...very interesting

Reply #75 posted 10/10/19 12:14pm

onlyforaminute

laytonian said:

 



BartVanHemelen said:


 



onlyforaminute said:


LovePaisley said: The demo?

.


Yeah, I have no clue what "bombshell" I'm supposed to see there, certainly nothing about Husney and/or Moon co-writing various tracks. I've searched for both their names throughout the e-book and found nothing even remotely like that.


.


LovePaisley better be providing some solid evidence, because it's looking like they're spouting lies so far. Post the first words of the sentence that starts the paragraph that's supposedly so controversial instead of these stupid vague clues.




Bottom page 33, where MD claims that P lied about the demo tapes submitted to the record companies.

The other is the fact that MD videotaped P's openings for the Rolling Stones, giving hope that it was in the vault.




Technically doesn't say he lied but that the company was lezd to believe. How they were lead isn't stated here. I'm just saying.



Grumble
[Edited 10/10/19 23:29pm]
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Reply #76 posted 10/10/19 10:45pm

luv4u

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Catch me in Minneapolis at the Mall of America this Friday Oct 11th for my very 1st book signing from 4pm-6pm!!

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Reply #77 posted 10/11/19 5:53am

TheTruth123

OldFriends4Sale said:

 


 


I look 4ward 2 this one



This is your timeframe OF4S. That you like. Enjoy it!
Reply #78 posted 10/11/19 5:56am

TheTruth123

violetcrush said:

 



steakfinger said:


 



Strive said:


 


 


Read it and really dislike the concept. It's disrespectful to Prince and Prince's religious beliefs.


 


And somebody should have tipped Morris off that Prince used all caps in his later life. 



I think Morris knew that Prince (like most AARP-aged people), seemed to have the caps lock on at all time without noticing.



 


I think Prince's use of caps was purposeful, and not because he didn't notice.



Of course it was. And very effective too.
Reply #79 posted 10/11/19 7:45am

SquirrelMeat

I just listened to the whole book today. I really enjoyed it. Personally, I loved the style of imaginary conversations. I just wish it had been even longer and more in depth. Morris seems brutally honest in it.

.
Reply #80 posted 10/11/19 12:02pm

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame



Amazon lost my book. sad

Reply #81 posted 10/11/19 12:20pm

onlyforaminute

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



Amazon lost my book.  sad


How the heck they lose your book?
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Reply #82 posted 10/11/19 12:34pm

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame

onlyforaminute said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



Amazon lost my book. sad

How the heck they lose your book?

At the beginning of the week they shipped it to a facility in my city.

Instead of delivering it, they decided to ship it to Iowa.


I dont live in Iowa. eek

Reply #83 posted 10/11/19 1:02pm

onlyforaminute

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

 



onlyforaminute said:


ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



Amazon lost my book.  sad



How the heck they lose your book?

 


 


At the beginning of the week they shipped it to a facility in my city.

Instead of delivering it, they decided to ship it to Iowa.


I dont live in Iowa.  eek


 


 


 


lol The book went on tour.
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Reply #84 posted 10/11/19 2:56pm

bsprout

So I've only read the sample and Morris' voice already has me cracking up. Talking about girls buzzing around Prince's 'pint-sized ass like bees around honey' - lol. I don't know how I feel about Prince 'co-narrating' this book, but if anyone knows Prince, it's Morris. And I have to hand it to him, he seems pretty earnest. Knowing what I already know about Morris' long and not-always-rosy past with Prince, I also believe he genuinely loves and respects Prince. I will read this book.

Reply #85 posted 10/11/19 3:38pm

SquirrelMeat

bsprout said:

So I've only read the sample and Morris' voice already has me cracking up. Talking about girls buzzing around Prince's 'pint-sized ass like bees around honey' - lol. I don't know how I feel about Prince 'co-narrating' this book, but if anyone knows Prince, it's Morris. And I have to hand it to him, he seems pretty earnest. Knowing what I already know about Morris' long and not-always-rosy past with Prince, I also believe he genuinely loves and respects Prince. I will read this book.


Once you've read the whole thing, his approach makes sense. He addresses the fall outs head on, and he uses the play with 'Prince' to give the opposite opinion, to ensure the version of events doesn't come across one sided.

The second from last chapter is very sad but heart warming.

I really enjoyed the whole thing.

.
Reply #86 posted 10/11/19 4:19pm

onlyforaminute

SquirrelMeat said:

 



bsprout said:


So I've only read the sample and Morris' voice already has me cracking up.  Talking about girls buzzing around Prince's 'pint-sized ass like bees around honey' - lol. I don't know how I feel about Prince 'co-narrating' this book, but if anyone knows Prince, it's Morris.  And I have to hand it to him, he seems pretty earnest.  Knowing what I already know about Morris' long and not-always-rosy past with Prince, I also believe he genuinely loves and respects Prince.  I will read this book.




Once you've read the whole thing, his approach makes sense. He addresses the fall outs head on, and he uses the play with 'Prince' to give the opposite opinion, to ensure the version of events doesn't come across one sided.

The second from last chapter is very sad but heart warming.

I really enjoyed the whole thing.




Yes it was.
[Edited 10/11/19 16:20pm]
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Reply #87 posted 10/11/19 5:15pm

Sydney

Excellent book - loved it. Morris is such a great character and artist and his chemistry with Prince was epic. The book is informative, respectful and cool and I really like the influence of David Ritz. Similar to his Rick James & Marvin bios there is an easy flow to the books narrative and chronology courtesy of Ritz's talent and experience. Thoroughly worthwhile - bring on 1999 Super Deluxe!!!!!

Reply #88 posted 10/11/19 8:55pm

motherfunka

luv4u said:

Catch me in Minneapolis at the Mall of America this Friday Oct 11th for my very 1st book signing from 4pm-6pm!!

I went to the book signing today. Maybe 200 people there. I haven't read a word yet. lol

TRUE BLUE
Reply #89 posted 10/11/19 9:31pm

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame

So....tell us more!

motherfunka said:

luv4u said:

Catch me in Minneapolis at the Mall of America this Friday Oct 11th for my very 1st book signing from 4pm-6pm!!

I went to the book signing today. Maybe 200 people there. I haven't read a word yet. lol

Reply #90 posted 10/12/19 4:12am

jayceman

200 people at the book signing? ...No.
I don't think it was even 100- the blocked off line area was never full and they never needed the overflow area they also previously set up around the corner.

You had to buy the new book on-site to qualify for a line wristband, and he would only sign that, though personalization and pictures were allowed.

That said, Morris seemed in a good mood, looking sharp in a plaid suit, and happy to meet fans- they announced him to the stage (he was mostly "on time", appearing just three minutes late) and he got to signing and talking to everyone as they came up, posing afterward with most, for a quick picture.

We left after an hour, with the line mosly dwindled, so not sure if he stayed the full two hours there. No word of any other Minneapolis appearances over this weekend, so he may have just hopped back on a plane following.
Reply #91 posted 10/12/19 8:24am

bsprout

SquirrelMeat said:

 



bsprout said:


So I've only read the sample and Morris' voice already has me cracking up.  Talking about girls buzzing around Prince's 'pint-sized ass like bees around honey' - lol. I don't know how I feel about Prince 'co-narrating' this book, but if anyone knows Prince, it's Morris.  And I have to hand it to him, he seems pretty earnest.  Knowing what I already know about Morris' long and not-always-rosy past with Prince, I also believe he genuinely loves and respects Prince.  I will read this book.




Once you've read the whole thing, his approach makes sense. He addresses the fall outs head on, and he uses the play with 'Prince' to give the opposite opinion, to ensure the version of events doesn't come across one sided.

The second from last chapter is very sad but heart warming.

I really enjoyed the whole thing.


Good to know, I will check it out, thanks.
Reply #92 posted 10/12/19 11:29am

PURPLEIZED3121

Great interview here: NY Post

https://nypost.com/2019/1...s-complex/

On the last show of the “Controversy” tour, Prince’s band threw rotten garbage while The Time performed. From there, “s–t got violent . . . punches thrown and a couple of hotel rooms wrecked,” Day writes.

Reply #93 posted 10/12/19 2:09pm

BartVanHemelen

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

Great interview here: NY Post

https://nypost.com/2019/1...s-complex/

On the last show of the “Controversy” tour, Prince’s band threw rotten garbage while The Time performed. From there, “s–t got violent . . . punches thrown and a couple of hotel rooms wrecked,” Day writes.

.

That line you quoted is only news if you've never read a proper article on The Time.

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Reply #94 posted 10/12/19 2:10pm

BartVanHemelen

© Bart Van Hemelen
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Reply #95 posted 10/12/19 3:12pm

ThatWhiteDude

Still waiting for my copy biggrin
"Like books and BLACK LIVES, Albums still MATTER."


"Extra cheese, extra HAM, extra bullshit" -DiminutiveRocker
Reply #96 posted 10/12/19 4:01pm

PennyPurple

ThatWhiteDude said:

Still waiting for my copy biggrin

Just got mine today. Can't wait to dig in.

Reply #97 posted 10/12/19 7:52pm

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame

ThatWhiteDude said:

Still waiting for my copy biggrin



My copy shipped on Monday.

Arrived in my city on Wednesday

Was shipped to Iowa on Friday.

Now back in my state today but not my city.

It is on tour with Morris.

Reply #98 posted 10/12/19 11:18pm

MoodyBlumes

Interesting how Morris can remember a "a jingle for a ladies' clothing shop called GG's" Prince did, but can't recall all the other work he did to secure his Warner's contract, including recording demos with Chris and David Z:

Chris Moon (from 10:00)

https://soundcloud.com/fu...-7-20-2018

Owen Husney (from 20:30)

https://www.youtube.com/w...vdIl040EL4

David Z (from 11:20)

https://www.youtube.com/w...7FVYX7tgy8

[Edited 10/13/19 3:36am]

Reply #99 posted 10/13/19 3:46am

PURPLEIZED3121

BartVanHemelen said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

Great interview here: NY Post

https://nypost.com/2019/1...s-complex/

On the last show of the “Controversy” tour, Prince’s band threw rotten garbage while The Time performed. From there, “s–t got violent . . . punches thrown and a couple of hotel rooms wrecked,” Day writes.

.

That line you quoted is only news if you've never read a proper article on The Time.

WTF are you banging on about now? I drop a selected quote - more for the benefit of those who AREN'T hardcore fans so chill out.

Reply #100 posted 10/13/19 6:12am

Mumio

MoodyBlumes said:

Interesting how Morris can remember a "a jingle for a ladies' clothing shop called GG's" Prince did, but can't recall all the other work he did to secure his Warner's contract, including recording demos with Chris and David Z:

Chris Moon (from 10:00)

https://soundcloud.com/fu...-7-20-2018

Owen Husney (from 20:30)

https://www.youtube.com/w...vdIl040EL4

David Z (from 11:20)

https://www.youtube.com/w...7FVYX7tgy8

[Edited 10/13/19 3:36am]

Thank you!

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
Reply #101 posted 10/13/19 9:14am

ladygirl99

Even though I am going to invest in the book I always prefer to read earlier interviews from the celebrities that I like because they were younger and plus they were more vocal and vivid about their life and art and plus they weren't as close off than they are older as sometimes details tend to be forgotten and plus they are very heavy controlled by their management team.

Reply #102 posted 10/13/19 9:59am

Shockadelica9

Morris day confirmed in chapter 4 that John Nelson kicked prince out of the house because he was bringing bunch of girlfriends at his house so John got sick of it.
Reply #103 posted 10/13/19 11:23am

onlyforaminute

I got my hardcopy Friday. biggrin
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Reply #104 posted 10/13/19 3:33pm

PennyPurple

Ahem. I think Morris misplaced most of his anger on Prince, instead of himself.

Reply #105 posted 10/13/19 4:15pm

ThatWhiteDude

PennyPurple said:

Ahem. I think Morris misplaced most of his anger on Prince, instead of himself. 


That was my thought too when I read an article someone posted on Twitter.
"Like books and BLACK LIVES, Albums still MATTER."


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Reply #106 posted 10/13/19 4:16pm

ThatWhiteDude

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

 



ThatWhiteDude said:


Still waiting for my copy biggrin



My copy shipped on Monday.


 


Arrived in my city on Wednesday


 


Was shipped to Iowa on Friday.

Now back in my state today but not my city.


 


It is on tour with Morris.


What the hell? confused
"Like books and BLACK LIVES, Albums still MATTER."


"Extra cheese, extra HAM, extra bullshit" -DiminutiveRocker
Reply #107 posted 10/13/19 9:35pm

LoveGalore

What is he implying with the makeup on the back thing?
Reply #108 posted 10/14/19 4:16am

mediumdry

I think with the makeup on the back thing, he's implying that there was an episode where Prince was either powertripping and showing he could ask his underlings anythings (or check their obedience) or that there was a weird sexual vibe (Prince was quite into Jagger and Bowie during this time), whatever it was, it made Morris uncomfortable and Prince and Morris never actually discussed it to clear the air and explain what it was.

.

As far as Morris venting anger towards Prince... in the book, the remarks aimed at Prince are mostly flattering. Morris realises his entire career is thanks to Prince and is quite thankful. However, what isn't written in the book, but does seep through a little bit between the lines, is that Morris seems frustrated that his career is MD, a caricature. What's more, it's a mix of pimp, Prince and his own input. It pigeonholes him somewhere he doesn't always want to be. Coupled with the insensitive way that Prince could treat others (often deservedly so, but nevermind that right now), it is only understandable that he would have more negativity towards Prince, more unresolved business, than comes though in the book, but does come through in interviews at times.

Reply #109 posted 10/14/19 5:12am

violetcrush

mediumdry said:

I think with the makeup on the back thing, he's implying that there was an episode where Prince was either powertripping and showing he could ask his underlings anythings (or check their obedience) or that there was a weird sexual vibe (Prince was quite into Jagger and Bowie during this time), whatever it was, it made Morris uncomfortable and Prince and Morris never actually discussed it to clear the air and explain what it was.


.


As far as Morris venting anger towards Prince... in the book, the remarks aimed at Prince are mostly flattering. Morris realises his entire career is thanks to Prince and is quite thankful. However, what isn't written in the book, but does seep through a little bit between the lines, is that Morris seems frustrated that his career is MD, a caricature. What's more, it's a mix of pimp, Prince and his own input. It pigeonholes him somewhere he doesn't always want to be. Coupled with the insensitive way that Prince could treat others (often deservedly so, but nevermind that right now), it is only understandable that he would have more negativity towards Prince, more unresolved business, than comes though in the book, but does come through in interviews at times.


Great synopsis. Morris’s resentment of being stuck in the “Morris Day/Purple Rain” character is somewhat understandable, but there is no guarantee that he would have made it as big, or bigger without his connection to Prince. I think Jimmy Jam and Terry are the only examples of associates making it bigger without Prince, but that was as Producers not performers. Wendy & Lisa did well with scoring TV/Film, and Sheila was still performing, but no one had more “celebrity” status or musical success - in terms of selling records - after they left the Prince camp. Prince was always going to be the focus and out in front. He designed it that way. Associates like Morris, Sheila, and W & L definitely helped him shine brighter though.
Reply #110 posted 10/14/19 7:26am

EugeneKnight

As a fan this is a disappointing book which merely confirms Morris Day as a figment of Prince's imagination. There is so little insight, so little of his own story shared from his perspective rather than viewed through the Prince's narrow prism.

After the release of Pandemonium why did the band disintegrate? No idea because he's straight onto talking about Prince competing with Michael Jackson.

Why did The Original 7ven grind to a halt? It isn't addressed because he is fixated on his standing relation to Prince.

The tacky and cheap looking cover exactly mirrors the content. Perhaps Morris figured the only way to get the book released was to ride on Prince's coat tails, but when you're a bit part player in your own autobigraphy you know you done f%$ked up. Very poor.

"Never argue with a fool, they will lower you to their level and then beat you with experience."—Woody Allen
Reply #111 posted 10/14/19 7:54am

mediumdry

yeah, his book is more an insight into how Prince worked with his associates than what happened within The Time. I'm guessing there are some big egos in that group that would be hurt by an open discussion on what goes on within that group of people. Instead of carefully being political about it, Morris just sidesteps it by not talking about it.

.

I find that it comes across as more as Morris saying that the band, while good, was not so important to the Prince product "the Time" as he was. He's saying "The Time is Prince and me", the other people in the band get talked about as being brilliant players that could upstage Prince's band, but that's about it. It feels more about making him more important and the rest of the band less so.

Reply #112 posted 10/14/19 11:33am

MoodyBlumes

mediumdry said:

I think with the makeup on the back thing, he's implying that there was an episode where Prince was either powertripping and showing he could ask his underlings anythings (or check their obedience) or that there was a weird sexual vibe (Prince was quite into Jagger and Bowie during this time), whatever it was, it made Morris uncomfortable and Prince and Morris never actually discussed it to clear the air and explain what it was.

.

As far as Morris venting anger towards Prince... in the book, the remarks aimed at Prince are mostly flattering. Morris realises his entire career is thanks to Prince and is quite thankful. However, what isn't written in the book, but does seep through a little bit between the lines, is that Morris seems frustrated that his career is MD, a caricature. What's more, it's a mix of pimp, Prince and his own input. It pigeonholes him somewhere he doesn't always want to be. Coupled with the insensitive way that Prince could treat others (often deservedly so, but nevermind that right now), it is only understandable that he would have more negativity towards Prince, more unresolved business, than comes though in the book, but does come through in interviews at times.

Seems Morris had some unique opportunities he chose not to pursue. What an honor being asked to play Little Richard.

https://www.latimes.com/a...story.html

"It has been a bit more than a year since Day signed his deal at Fox, and part of the reason he has not yet shown up on screen is because he’s been quite selective about what the next movie will be. He turned down an offer to portray Little Richard. He passed on a Disney movie called “Off-Beat.” (“We begged him to do the movie,” says Disney chairman Jeff Katzenberg.) He read for “The Color Purple” and for Ron Howard’s “Gung Ho,” and has been reading scripts for months. “The right one just hasn’t come along yet,” he says with a shrug. “A starring role requires a lot of time, and I want to build to it.” "

[Edited 10/14/19 11:39am]

Reply #113 posted 10/14/19 11:33am

LoveGalore

Well, for better or for worse, what remains in the public memory is what a band puts down on record. And as Prince proved, he didn't need anyone but Morris to make a hit with The Time.
Reply #114 posted 10/14/19 1:07pm

kindofblue

Haven‘t read the Book yet, only Reviews and Interviews. Question: Is the 2008 Coachella Show mentioned in the book? Because that doesn‘t seem to fit the storyline that the both of them didn‘t have any contact after the cancellation of the 07/07/07 gig until shortly before his death.
Reply #115 posted 10/14/19 1:51pm

violetcrush

mediumdry said:

yeah, his book is more an insight into how Prince worked with his associates than what happened within The Time. I'm guessing there are some big egos in that group that would be hurt by an open discussion on what goes on within that group of people. Instead of carefully being political about it, Morris just sidesteps it by not talking about it.

.

I find that it comes across as more as Morris saying that the band, while good, was not so important to the Prince product "the Time" as he was. He's saying "The Time is Prince and me", the other people in the band get talked about as being brilliant players that could upstage Prince's band, but that's about it. It feels more about making him more important and the rest of the band less so.

Well, to defend Morri's perspective just a bit - other than Jesse Johnson, it seems it was mainly Morris and Prince together in the studio working out songs and ideas. An example would be Cloreen Bacon Skin, which Prince wrote about in detail on the CB liner notes. He said it was just him and Morris doing an impromptu jam session together in the studio. Same with one of the earliest versions of International Lover - it was just Prince and Morris playing on that take, and Prince even calls out Morris at the end of the song. Seems as though that happened quite a bit in the earlier days.

*

From what I've read elsewhere - and I don't yet have this book, so I'm not sure if Morris wrote about it - is that Morris was very angry that he did not get the drummer slot in Prince's first band. He wanted that job, and felt he deserved to have it. I'm sure Prince was already thinking ahead to creating another group for Morris, even before they set up meetings about The Time.

*

I recently found a very old video from around 1991-92 on YT with Morris, Jerome, Jimmy and Terry in France talking about why things fell apart with the band during the making of Pandemonium. They were being somewhat discreet, but definitely stated - in so many words - that Prince wanted to control everything with the music, and I believe they also referenced not getting paid as they should have. I think once they went off on their own as The Original 7ven it became an ego problem with the group - too many chefs in the kitchen type of thing.

Reply #116 posted 10/14/19 1:51pm

williamb610

ARGGGGGH!

You guys swiped my idea to tell everyone about Morris initially being P's videographer.

Hopefully, what he recorded is still in decent condition in the vault's tapes.

Reply #117 posted 10/14/19 3:32pm

PennyPurple

Then how can you comment if you haven't even read the book? Multiple paragraphs on a thread about the book, that you haven't even read.... sad

violetcrush said:

Well, to defend Morri's perspective just a bit - other than Jesse Johnson, it seems it was mainly Morris and Prince together in the studio working out songs and ideas. An example would be Cloreen Bacon Skin, which Prince wrote about in detail on the CB liner notes. He said it was just him and Morris doing an impromptu jam session together in the studio. Same with one of the earliest versions of International Lover - it was just Prince and Morris playing on that take, and Prince even calls out Morris at the end of the song. Seems as though that happened quite a bit in the earlier days.

*

From what I've read elsewhere - and I don't yet have this book, so I'm not sure if Morris wrote about it - is that Morris was very angry that he did not get the drummer slot in Prince's first band. He wanted that job, and felt he deserved to have it. I'm sure Prince was already thinking ahead to creating another group for Morris, even before they set up meetings about The Time.

*

I recently found a very old video from around 1991-92 on YT with Morris, Jerome, Jimmy and Terry in France talking about why things fell apart with the band during the making of Pandemonium. They were being somewhat discreet, but definitely stated - in so many words - that Prince wanted to control everything with the music, and I believe they also referenced not getting paid as they should have. I think once they went off on their own as The Original 7ven it became an ego problem with the group - too many chefs in the kitchen type of thing.

Reply #118 posted 10/14/19 5:28pm

PennyPurple

MoodyBlumes said:

Seems Morris had some unique opportunities he chose not to pursue. What an honor being asked to play Little Richard.

https://www.latimes.com/a...story.html

"It has been a bit more than a year since Day signed his deal at Fox, and part of the reason he has not yet shown up on screen is because he’s been quite selective about what the next movie will be. He turned down an offer to portray Little Richard. He passed on a Disney movie called “Off-Beat.” (“We begged him to do the movie,” says Disney chairman Jeff Katzenberg.) He read for “The Color Purple” and for Ron Howard’s “Gung Ho,” and has been reading scripts for months. “The right one just hasn’t come along yet,” he says with a shrug. “A starring role requires a lot of time, and I want to build to it.” "

[Edited 10/14/19 11:39am]

Yeah, he really shouldn't have passed up some of those roles.

Reply #119 posted 10/14/19 6:05pm

violetcrush

PennyPurple said:

 



MoodyBlumes said:


 



 


 



Seems Morris had some unique opportunities he chose not to pursue. What an honor being asked to play Little Richard. 


https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1985-12-07-ca-14273-story.html


"It has been a bit more than a year since Day signed his deal at Fox, and part of the reason he has not yet shown up on screen is because he’s been quite selective about what the next movie will be. He turned down an offer to portray Little Richard. He passed on a Disney movie called “Off-Beat.” (“We begged him to do the movie,” says Disney chairman Jeff Katzenberg.) He read for “The Color Purple” and for Ron Howard’s “Gung Ho,” and has been reading scripts for months. “The right one just hasn’t come along yet,” he says with a shrug. “A starring role requires a lot of time, and I want to build to it.” "


 


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Yeah, he really shouldn't have passed up some of those roles. 


I can’t believe he passed on The Color Purple. That would have been all he needed to disassociate from the PR Morris Day character.
Reply #120 posted 10/14/19 6:42pm

PeggyO

I get the impression that Morris does just enough to retain a comfortable lifestyle. He lives in a beautiful, sunny area, he still performs, wrote a book without too much effort (IMO), and probably did not want the 'stress' of being in a movie which requires long hours.

This is not criticism.

Reply #121 posted 10/14/19 6:50pm

violetcrush

I just re-read that media blurb, which would have been from the mid-late 80’s based on when The Color Purple was released, and it stated he “read” for that film, not that he was offered a role. Two very different things. There were so many big names in that film, so I would imagine he would not have passed on that one. Though, if he was still heavily into Cocaine he may not have been able to handle the set hours for a film of that nature.
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Just looked at the link which shows Dec 1985. So, Morris was only a year off of PR, and in full party mode.
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Reply #122 posted 10/14/19 7:41pm

PennyPurple

PeggyO said:

I get the impression that Morris does just enough to retain a comfortable lifestyle. He lives in a beautiful, sunny area, he still performs, wrote a book without too much effort (IMO), and probably did not want the 'stress' of being in a movie which requires long hours.

This is not criticism.

I agree Peggy, just enough to get by.

Morris seems to be a likeable guy. Glad I read the book.

Reply #123 posted 10/14/19 8:19pm

PeggyO

PennyPurple said:

PeggyO said:

I get the impression that Morris does just enough to retain a comfortable lifestyle. He lives in a beautiful, sunny area, he still performs, wrote a book without too much effort (IMO), and probably did not want the 'stress' of being in a movie which requires long hours.

This is not criticism.

I agree Peggy, just enough to get by.

Morris seems to be a likeable guy. Glad I read the book.

I wonder if Prince admired those qualties in him. He is likeable to me as well.

Reply #124 posted 10/15/19 3:29am

ThatWhiteDude

It's finally here biggrin
"Like books and BLACK LIVES, Albums still MATTER."


"Extra cheese, extra HAM, extra bullshit" -DiminutiveRocker
Reply #125 posted 10/15/19 4:37am

PennyPurple

ThatWhiteDude said:

It's finally here biggrin

Yay! Happy Reading.

Reply #126 posted 10/15/19 1:40pm

bsprout

I’m on ch 10 and enjoying so far 😊
Reply #127 posted 10/15/19 4:22pm

ThatWhiteDude

PennyPurple said:

 



ThatWhiteDude said:


It's finally here biggrin

Yay! Happy Reading.


Thanks! biggrin
"Like books and BLACK LIVES, Albums still MATTER."


"Extra cheese, extra HAM, extra bullshit" -DiminutiveRocker
Reply #128 posted 10/15/19 4:48pm

PennyPurple

ThatWhiteDude said:

PennyPurple said:

Yay! Happy Reading.

Thanks! biggrin

Are you done yet? lol

Reply #129 posted 10/15/19 5:35pm

ThatWhiteDude

PennyPurple said:

 



ThatWhiteDude said:


PennyPurple said:

 


Yay! Happy Reading.



Thanks! biggrin

Are you done yet?  lol


Nah, I'm on page 25 right now. I didn't have much time today sad but it's been a great read so far. smile
"Like books and BLACK LIVES, Albums still MATTER."


"Extra cheese, extra HAM, extra bullshit" -DiminutiveRocker
Reply #130 posted 10/15/19 9:05pm

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame

Lawdy Amazon...by book is still touring with Morris.

Reply #131 posted 10/15/19 9:32pm

Mumio

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Lawdy Amazon...by book is still touring with Morris.


spit

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
Reply #132 posted 10/16/19 4:41am

PennyPurple

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Lawdy Amazon...by book is still touring with Morris.

eek Sheesh, I would've thought they would have it figured out by now.

Reply #133 posted 10/16/19 9:18am

Dsoul

EugeneKnight said:

As a fan this is a disappointing book which merely confirms Morris Day as a figment of Prince's imagination. There is so little insight, so little of his own story shared from his perspective rather than viewed through the Prince's narrow prism.


 


After the release of Pandemonium why did the band disintegrate? No idea because he's straight onto  talking about Prince competing with Michael Jackson.


 


Why did The Original 7ven grind to a halt? It isn't addressed because he is fixated on his standing relation to Prince.


 


The tacky and cheap looking cover exactly mirrors the content. Perhaps Morris figured the only way to get the book released was to ride on Prince's coat tails, but when you're a bit part player in your own autobigraphy you know you done f%$ked up. Very poor.



My thoughts exactly, surprised by the positive reviews. He is a very dull, uninteresting personality. A Prince-created cliche acting out a character on and offstage.

Like you I wondered why original 7ven album was hardly mentioned, nor the events leading to their breakup.
Reply #134 posted 10/16/19 11:58am

daPrettyman

EugeneKnight said:

As a fan this is a disappointing book which merely confirms Morris Day as a figment of Prince's imagination. There is so little insight, so little of his own story shared from his perspective rather than viewed through the Prince's narrow prism.

After the release of Pandemonium why did the band disintegrate? No idea because he's straight onto talking about Prince competing with Michael Jackson.

Why did The Original 7ven grind to a halt? It isn't addressed because he is fixated on his standing relation to Prince.

The tacky and cheap looking cover exactly mirrors the content. Perhaps Morris figured the only way to get the book released was to ride on Prince's coat tails, but when you're a bit part player in your own autobigraphy you know you done f%$ked up. Very poor.

I agree with you 100%. Glad I "listened" to the book on audible, but I have so many more questions like yours above. He glossed over so may segments that (to me) were important nuggets to the story. I know a lot of his opinions were covered in the O7 DVD that was in the deluxe edition, but I wanted all of that documented in the book.

It is definitely a story that he could have delved deeper into. I would like to know more about Morris outside of music. Does he play golf? Does he take his kids to the fair? Does he go to Disney World with his kids? I would like more of this kind of stuff. Not necessarliy because I care, but to paint him as a person and not as some fictional character from a movie.

I also don't know if it was his editors/co-writer or what that made the final decisions. I do know that David Ritz is really thorough in his writing. His book on Aretha Franklin (Respect...not the autobiography he cowrote with her) and Marvin Gaye are supurb. I know he would be willing to go deeper, but not sure if it was editing that made the book this way.

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Reply #135 posted 10/16/19 1:12pm

violetcrush

daPrettyman said:

 



EugeneKnight said:


As a fan this is a disappointing book which merely confirms Morris Day as a figment of Prince's imagination. There is so little insight, so little of his own story shared from his perspective rather than viewed through the Prince's narrow prism.


 


After the release of Pandemonium why did the band disintegrate? No idea because he's straight onto  talking about Prince competing with Michael Jackson.


 


Why did The Original 7ven grind to a halt? It isn't addressed because he is fixated on his standing relation to Prince.


 


The tacky and cheap looking cover exactly mirrors the content. Perhaps Morris figured the only way to get the book released was to ride on Prince's coat tails, but when you're a bit part player in your own autobigraphy you know you done f%$ked up. Very poor.



I agree with you 100%.  Glad I "listened" to the book on audible, but I have so many more questions like yours above.  He glossed over so may segments that (to me) were important nuggets to the story.  I know a lot of his opinions were covered in the O7 DVD that was in the deluxe edition, but I wanted all of that documented in the book.


 


It is definitely a story that he could have delved deeper into.  I would like to know more about Morris outside of music.  Does he play golf?  Does he take his kids to the fair?  Does he go to Disney World with his kids?  I would like more of this kind of stuff.  Not necessarliy because I care, but to paint him as a person and not as some fictional character from a movie.  


 


I also don't know if it was his editors/co-writer or what that made the final decisions.  I do know that David Ritz is really thorough in his writing.  His book on Aretha Franklin (Respect...not the autobiography he cowrote with her) and Marvin Gaye are supurb.  I know he would be willing to go deeper, but not sure if it was editing that made the book this way.

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I always thought his intention was to specifically chronicle his time with Prince, and not his life outside of that. The “princely life in funk” part of the title seems to hint to that.
Reply #136 posted 10/16/19 3:22pm

PennyPurple

violetcrush said:



I always thought his intention was to specifically chronicle his time with Prince, and not his life outside of that. The “princely life in funk” part of the title seems to hint to that.

If you'd read the book, you'd see he talked about his life before, during and after Prince, not just his time with Prince.

Reply #137 posted 10/16/19 6:14pm

PeggyO

PennyPurple said:

violetcrush said:

I always thought his intention was to specifically chronicle his time with Prince, and not his life outside of that. The “princely life in funk” part of the title seems to hint to that.

If you'd read the book, you'd see he talked about his life before, during and after Prince, not just his time with Prince.

LOL

Reply #138 posted 10/16/19 9:43pm

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame

stoned

It arrived today. Yeah Amazon. Only a week or more late.

My book has stopped touring, and said it is extremely tired from traveling around the USA.

The book asked me to allow it to rest for a bit before I start reading.

Reply #139 posted 10/17/19 3:34am

BartVanHemelen

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Reply #140 posted 10/17/19 8:28am

TylerTheDebater

I really enjoyed this book. If for anything, it shed some light on some things I always wondered about (for example, where the hell that name "Eugene Knight" came from) and some things I didn't expect.

Kind of wild to see him fall from grace the way he did. Enjoyed the family pictures and bits about his life we wouldn't have gotten anywhere else. And as always, a side of Prince you don't always get from the people who seem to be "officially" speaking for/about him in the press posthumously. I really liked knowing what kind of music he (and Prince reportedly) were into.

Reply #141 posted 10/17/19 8:43am

BartVanHemelen

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This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties, and confers no rights.
It is not authorized by Prince or the NPG Music Club. You assume all risk for
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Reply #142 posted 10/17/19 8:43am

BartVanHemelen

© Bart Van Hemelen
This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties, and confers no rights.
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Reply #143 posted 10/17/19 3:06pm

onlyforaminute

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

stoned

It arrived today. Yeah Amazon. Only a week or more late.

My book has stopped touring, and said it is extremely tired from traveling around the USA.

The book asked me to allow it to rest for a bit before I start reading.


YAY!
Year of Return 2019
Reply #144 posted 10/17/19 10:11pm

williamb610

The part about Prince kicking him out of his house was pretty jarring for some reason. The part about Prince sharing and not wanting to share women with him was funny, but still jarring.

I never knew Morris was on drugs. So, that's weird to me. It was interesting to see that Prince was pimping it with the multiple women. I always thought he would but I had never had any indication, from an article or whatever women that slept with him that he was into orgies or whatever.(I never did take Zannalee to heart. No woman had ever confirmed it.)

Interesting book so far. I'm almost half done!

Reply #145 posted 10/18/19 2:25am

ChocolateBox3121

morrissigning.jpg

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances."prince 1985
"eye don't think about gone just think about the future when eye don't want 2 speak n real time" prince 2004
Reply #146 posted 10/18/19 6:38am

BartVanHemelen

© Bart Van Hemelen
This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties, and confers no rights.
It is not authorized by Prince or the NPG Music Club. You assume all risk for
your use. All rights reserved.
Reply #147 posted 10/18/19 8:39am

ChocolateBox3121

morrissigning.jpg2.jpg

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances."prince 1985
"eye don't think about gone just think about the future when eye don't want 2 speak n real time" prince 2004
Reply #148 posted 10/18/19 1:08pm

violetcrush

williamb610 said:

The part about Prince kicking him out of his house was pretty jarring for some reason. The part about Prince sharing and not wanting to share women with him was funny, but still jarring.

I never knew Morris was on drugs. So, that's weird to me. It was interesting to see that Prince was pimping it with the multiple women. I always thought he would but I had never had any indication, from an article or whatever women that slept with him that he was into orgies or whatever.(I never did take Zannalee to heart. No woman had ever confirmed it.)

Interesting book so far. I'm almost half done!

Zannalee was not about an orgy - just a "three-way" between him, his girlfriend and her sister. "She had a sister named "Fendi"....if you know the history it's not too hard to convert the names "Zannalee" and "Fendi" biggrin Of course, it could have been completely fabricated by Prince just to keep people questioning or guessing.

Reply #149 posted 10/18/19 1:45pm

RJOrion

thanks for the links, Bart
Reply #150 posted 10/18/19 2:21pm

williamb610

violetcrush said:

williamb610 said:

The part about Prince kicking him out of his house was pretty jarring for some reason. The part about Prince sharing and not wanting to share women with him was funny, but still jarring.

I never knew Morris was on drugs. So, that's weird to me. It was interesting to see that Prince was pimping it with the multiple women. I always thought he would but I had never had any indication, from an article or whatever women that slept with him that he was into orgies or whatever.(I never did take Zannalee to heart. No woman had ever confirmed it.)

Interesting book so far. I'm almost half done!

Zannalee was not about an orgy - just a "three-way" between him, his girlfriend and her sister. "She had a sister named "Fendi"....if you know the history it's not too hard to convert the names "Zannalee" and "Fendi" biggrin Of course, it could have been completely fabricated by Prince just to keep people questioning or guessing.

So, I guess Zannalee is Vanity. It's not Nandy or Maya, the twins. I guess it's not Robia or Lori Elle. Is 'Fendi' Susan Moonsie? eek

Reply #151 posted 10/18/19 3:32pm

violetcrush

williamb610 said:

 



violetcrush said:


 



williamb610 said:


The part about Prince kicking him out of his house was pretty jarring for some reason.  The part about Prince sharing and not wanting to share women with him was funny, but still jarring.


 


I never knew Morris was on drugs.  So, that's weird to me.  It was interesting to see that Prince was pimping it with the multiple women.  I always thought he would but I had never had any indication, from an article or whatever women that slept with him that he was into orgies or whatever.(I never did take Zannalee to heart.  No woman had ever confirmed it.)


 


Interesting book so far.  I'm almost half done!



 


Zannalee was not about an orgy - just a "three-way" between him, his girlfriend and her sister. "She had a sister named "Fendi"....if you know the history it's not too hard to convert the names "Zannalee" and "Fendi"  biggrin  Of course, it could have been completely fabricated by Prince just to keep people questioning or guessing.



 


 


So, I guess Zannalee is Vanity.  It's not Nandy or Maya, the twins.  I guess it's not Robia or Lori Elle.  Is 'Fendi' Susan Moonsie? eek


Um, no. "Zannalee" = SuZANNAH and her twin sister "Fendi" = Wendy. biggrin
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Yes, I know Wendy is gay, however if you listen to the lyrics it makes sense - "to get 'em in the mood I give 'em some cherry wine. Then we watch a movie - one of them dirty kind. Then we play some pool and they watch me "bank" (get) the "6 and the 9. Watch me bank it baby."
*
Prince was SO clever with his play on words smile In the unreleased video for this song he has two curly haired twins playing "Zannalee" and "Fendi".
Reply #152 posted 10/18/19 6:24pm

LoveGalore

violetcrush said:

williamb610 said:

 



violetcrush said:


 



williamb610 said:


The part about Prince kicking him out of his house was pretty jarring for some reason.  The part about Prince sharing and not wanting to share women with him was funny, but still jarring.


 


I never knew Morris was on drugs.  So, that's weird to me.  It was interesting to see that Prince was pimping it with the multiple women.  I always thought he would but I had never had any indication, from an article or whatever women that slept with him that he was into orgies or whatever.(I never did take Zannalee to heart.  No woman had ever confirmed it.)


 


Interesting book so far.  I'm almost half done!



 


Zannalee was not about an orgy - just a "three-way" between him, his girlfriend and her sister. "She had a sister named "Fendi"....if you know the history it's not too hard to convert the names "Zannalee" and "Fendi"  biggrin  Of course, it could have been completely fabricated by Prince just to keep people questioning or guessing.



 


 


So, I guess Zannalee is Vanity.  It's not Nandy or Maya, the twins.  I guess it's not Robia or Lori Elle.  Is 'Fendi' Susan Moonsie? eek


Um, no. "Zannalee" = SuZANNAH and her twin sister "Fendi" = Wendy. biggrin
*
Yes, I know Wendy is gay, however if you listen to the lyrics it makes sense - "to get 'em in the mood I give 'em some cherry wine. Then we watch a movie - one of them dirty kind. Then we play some pool and they watch me "bank" (get) the "6 and the 9. Watch me bank it baby."
*
Prince was SO clever with his play on words smile In the unreleased video for this song he has two curly haired twins playing "Zannalee" and "Fendi".


And Dinner with Delores was a clear reference to Vanity.

All that being said, of course Prince had orgies before. Come on. He wrote songs about it, why wouldn't it be true.
Reply #153 posted 10/18/19 6:39pm

violetcrush

LoveGalore said:

violetcrush said:


Um, no. "Zannalee" = SuZANNAH and her twin sister "Fendi" = Wendy. biggrin
*
Yes, I know Wendy is gay, however if you listen to the lyrics it makes sense - "to get 'em in the mood I give 'em some cherry wine. Then we watch a movie - one of them dirty kind. Then we play some pool and they watch me "bank" (get) the "6 and the 9. Watch me bank it baby."
*
Prince was SO clever with his play on words smile In the unreleased video for this song he has two curly haired twins playing "Zannalee" and "Fendi".


And Dinner with Delores was a clear reference to Vanity.

All that being said, of course Prince had orgies before. Come on. He wrote songs about it, why wouldn't it be true.

Oh he probably did.I'm sure he took part in many kinky situations smile
Reply #154 posted 10/18/19 8:31pm

mrwiggles

Somehow I missed this was coming out. I came upon it today in a local bookstore and flipped thru it. I’m intrigued enough to read it. I had no idea Morris was out on blow.
Reply #155 posted 10/18/19 10:11pm

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame

violetcrush said:


Um, no. "Zannalee" = SuZANNAH and her twin sister "Fendi" = Wendy. biggrin * Yes, I know Wendy is gay, however if you listen to the lyrics it makes sense - "to get 'em in the mood I give 'em some cherry wine. Then we watch a movie - one of them dirty kind. Then we play some pool and they watch me "bank" (get) the "6 and the 9. Watch me bank it baby." * Prince was SO clever with his play on words smile In the unreleased video for this song he has two curly haired twins playing "Zannalee" and "Fendi".



Oh Lawdy.

Here we go again with the Susannah stanning on a thread about Morris' and not a thread about her.

Are you Susannah??

Or a relative of hers??

Seriously, why do you always find a why to insert Susannah into almost every song by P even years after he no longer had her on his mind? P only had her on his mind when he made her sign a promissory note to pay back the money he lent to her?

pimp

Reply #156 posted 10/19/19 3:42am

PennyPurple

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

violetcrush said:


Um, no. "Zannalee" = SuZANNAH and her twin sister "Fendi" = Wendy. biggrin * Yes, I know Wendy is gay, however if you listen to the lyrics it makes sense - "to get 'em in the mood I give 'em some cherry wine. Then we watch a movie - one of them dirty kind. Then we play some pool and they watch me "bank" (get) the "6 and the 9. Watch me bank it baby." * Prince was SO clever with his play on words smile In the unreleased video for this song he has two curly haired twins playing "Zannalee" and "Fendi".



Oh Lawdy.

Here we go again with the Susannah stanning on a thread about Morris' and not a thread about her.

Are you Susannah??

Or a relative of hers??

Seriously, why do you always find a why to insert Susannah into almost every song by P even years after he no longer had her on his mind? P only had her on his mind when he made her sign a promissory note to pay back the money he lent to her?

pimp

Heck Violet hasn't even read the book, and here she is. lol Projecting, changing the narrative, etc.etc.etc.

Reply #157 posted 10/19/19 7:04am

violetcrush

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

violetcrush said:

Um, no. "Zannalee" = SuZANNAH and her twin sister "Fendi" = Wendy. biggrin * Yes, I know Wendy is gay, however if you listen to the lyrics it makes sense - "to get 'em in the mood I give 'em some cherry wine. Then we watch a movie - one of them dirty kind. Then we play some pool and they watch me "bank" (get) the "6 and the 9. Watch me bank it baby." * Prince was SO clever with his play on words smile In the unreleased video for this song he has two curly haired twins playing "Zannalee" and "Fendi".



Oh Lawdy.

Here we go again with the Susannah stanning on a thread about Morris' and not a thread about her.

Are you Susannah??

Or a relative of hers??

Seriously, why do you always find a why to insert Susannah into almost every song by P even years after he no longer had her on his mind? P only had her on his mind when he made her sign a promissory note to pay back the money he lent to her?

pimp

Oh Whatever ISLIJAG - and what are YOU doing with this thread by posting your snide comments about my discussion with someone else?? Why are you responding to my post that had nothing to do with you? I would say you are 100% de-railing the thread in order to start another one of your attacks. Pathetic.

LoveGalore started the back and forth about the song Zannalee. CLEARLY, you don't know the history. Prince was still in contact with her throughout the 90's. He recorded that song in 1993, and then put it on Chaos & Disorder.

*

I could post the note he wrote to her in the mid-90's telling her he loved her and to please write to him, but that would just add your derailment.

Reply #158 posted 10/19/19 7:06am

violetcrush

PennyPurple said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



Oh Lawdy.

Here we go again with the Susannah stanning on a thread about Morris' and not a thread about her.

Are you Susannah??

Or a relative of hers??

Seriously, why do you always find a why to insert Susannah into almost every song by P even years after he no longer had her on his mind? P only had her on his mind when he made her sign a promissory note to pay back the money he lent to her?

pimp

Heck Violet hasn't even read the book, and here she is. lol Projecting, changing the narrative, etc.etc.etc.

And right on cue, here comes PennyP to add to the harem attack lol Now that is two posts and counting by two members who had absolutely nothing to do with the discussion between myself and LoveGalore about a SONG inspiration.

Reply #159 posted 10/19/19 7:47am

onlyforaminute

Despite the fact that Morris doesn't discuss any of Prince's relationships in this book you all still turned this thread into an argument about someone Prince was schtupping. How do you all do that consistantly? We gonna have to start calling you Dolores ain't a damned thing else on your minds.
Year of Return 2019
Reply #160 posted 10/19/19 9:43am

ChocolateBox3121

violetcrush said:

PennyPurple said:

Heck Violet hasn't even read the book, and here she is. lol Projecting, changing the narrative, etc.etc.etc.

And right on cue, here comes PennyP to add to the harem attack lol Now that is two posts and counting by two members who had absolutely nothing to do with the discussion between myself and LoveGalore about a SONG inspiration.

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"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances."prince 1985
"eye don't think about gone just think about the future when eye don't want 2 speak n real time" prince 2004
Reply #161 posted 10/19/19 10:14am

violetcrush

ChocolateBox3121 said:

violetcrush said:

And right on cue, here comes PennyP to add to the harem attack lol Now that is two posts and counting by two members who had absolutely nothing to do with the discussion between myself and LoveGalore about a SONG inspiration.

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WOW, and now Choco has pulled out the infamous gif for further de-railment lol lol lol

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Reply #162 posted 10/19/19 1:12pm

Mumio

ChocolateBox3121 said:

violetcrush said:

And right on cue, here comes PennyP to add to the harem attack lol Now that is two posts and counting by two members who had absolutely nothing to do with the discussion between myself and LoveGalore about a SONG inspiration.

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spit jester lol

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
Reply #163 posted 10/19/19 8:54pm

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame

Morris' Prelude made me teary eyed.



Reply #164 posted 10/20/19 9:57am

PennyPurple

For those who have read the book, why did Prince do Morris so bad over the 7/7/7 show? Is there something other then Morris not wanting to stay at the Motel, Prince wanted them to?

Reply #165 posted 10/20/19 11:02am

ChocolateBox3121

morrisDavidRitz.png

Morris & author David Ritz at the 35th anniversary screening of Purple Rain in the beautiful, TCL Chinese theater home to the most prominent red carpet movie premieres and special events. It’s where Hollywood's biggest and brightest stars come to watch their movies! The theater has the unique Forecourt of the Stars, which features cement hand and footprints of major movie stars from past to present.Including Eddie Murphy & MEGA star Will Smith.

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances."prince 1985
"eye don't think about gone just think about the future when eye don't want 2 speak n real time" prince 2004
Reply #166 posted 10/22/19 11:31am

BklynDiamond

Read the book and enjoyed it. I actually liked Morris's thoughts on what his brother would say.

When you know someone that long, you know their reactions.

One thing that is plainly clear, he LOVED Prince and he misses him dearly.
Because of their half-baked mistakes, we get ice cream, no cake; all lies, no truth; is it fair to Kill the YOUTH ~~ Party Up
Reply #167 posted 10/23/19 6:53pm

MoodyBlumes

BklynDiamond said:

Read the book and enjoyed it. I actually liked Morris's thoughts on what his brother would say. When you know someone that long, you know their reactions. One thing that is plainly clear, he LOVED Prince and he misses him dearly.

How is it love to write a book after Prince has died which accuses him of using Grand Central demos to get signed to Warner Bros.? And what would the real Prince say? Prince worked with Chris Moon for almost a year before even meeting Owen Husney, then David Z (Rivkin), Bobby Z's brother, worked with him at Sound 80 making the demos that were shopped to the record companies / got him signed to Warners.

Per Nilsen's 'Dance Music Sex Romance, Prince: The First Decade', p. 24-33

"As it turned out, Prince's deal with (Chris) Moon effectively marked the end of Champagne.... Prince had to leave his guitar and amplifier to LaVonne Daughterty (Morris' mother) when he parted ways with Champagne. 'I was there when Prince came home without his Stratocaster', Charles recalls. 'He was so mad! It really hurt because he didn't have any instruments when LaVonne took his guitar. It was really ugly. Chris Moon hooked him up with some gear.' Champagne tried to continue without Prince, but called it quits after only a few months."

"Prince worked tirelessly around the clock in Moon's studio, often staying the entire weekend... One of the first songs Prince composed by himself, both lyrics and music, was "Baby", which materialised on 'For You' in 1978" "In addition to the tracks Prince committed to tape at Moon's studio, he recorded many songs and musical ideas on a simple cassette recorder; his song writing was already prolific.

"In the meantime, Moon played Prince's demo tape to Owen Husney, who ran The Ad Company, an advertising agency in Minneapolis... Husney called Prince in New York to express his interest in becoming his manager. 'He was at his sister's house. He was really quiet...."

"The next step was to contact David Rivkin and get him to help Prince put together a new demo at Sound 80 in Minneapolis where Rivkin was now working. Husney felt the songs Prince had recorded at Moonsound 'weren't by any means ready for presentation to a company, albeit they showed the talent.'

"Prince and Rivkin spent the entire winter of 1976-77 at Sound 80, re-recording some of the Moonsound songs.

"For the demo tape, Prince and Husney chose 'Baby' and 'Soft and Wet'... The Sound 80 sessions were important in shaping Prince's future musical style since it was the first time he worked with synthesizers, including an Oberheim 4-Voice...

"Husney and Levinson put together a press kit in order to promote Prince to the record companies."

Owen Husney donated the press kit / demo to the Minnesota Historical Society:

https://www.mnhs.org/media/news/10962

[Edited 10/23/19 18:56pm]

Reply #168 posted 10/24/19 1:11pm

funksterr

It's some BOMBSHELLS in this book if you paying attention. As usual y'all really not.
"Fellas I need some nasty bass!" biggrin

Reply #169 posted 10/24/19 2:23pm

violetcrush

MoodyBlumes said:

 



BklynDiamond said:


Read the book and enjoyed it. I actually liked Morris's thoughts on what his brother would say. When you know someone that long, you know their reactions. One thing that is plainly clear, he LOVED Prince and he misses him dearly.

 


How is it love to write a book after Prince has died which accuses him of using Grand Central demos to get signed to Warner Bros.? And what would the real Prince say? Prince worked with Chris Moon for almost a year before even meeting Owen Husney, then David Z (Rivkin), Bobby Z's brother, worked with him at Sound 80 making the demos that were shopped to the record companies / got him signed to Warners.


 


 


Per Nilsen's 'Dance Music Sex Romance, Prince: The First Decade', p. 24-33


 


"As it turned out, Prince's deal with (Chris) Moon effectively marked the end of Champagne.... Prince had to leave his guitar and amplifier to LaVonne Daughterty (Morris' mother) when he parted ways with Champagne. 'I was there when Prince came home without his Stratocaster', Charles recalls. 'He was so mad! It really hurt because he didn't have any instruments when LaVonne took his guitar. It was really ugly. Chris Moon hooked him up with some gear.' Champagne tried to continue without Prince, but called it quits after only a few months." 


 


 


"Prince worked tirelessly around the clock in Moon's studio, often staying the entire weekend... One of the first songs Prince composed by himself, both lyrics and music, was "Baby", which materialised on 'For You' in 1978" "In addition to the tracks Prince committed to tape at Moon's studio, he recorded many songs and musical ideas on a simple cassette recorder; his song writing was already prolific.


 


 


"In the meantime, Moon played Prince's demo tape to Owen Husney, who ran The Ad Company, an advertising agency in Minneapolis... Husney called Prince in New York to express his interest in becoming his manager. 'He was at his sister's house. He was really quiet...."


"The next step was to contact David Rivkin and get him to help Prince put together a new demo at Sound 80 in Minneapolis where Rivkin was now working. Husney felt the songs Prince had recorded at Moonsound 'weren't by any means ready for presentation to a company, albeit they showed the talent.'


"Prince and Rivkin spent the entire winter of 1976-77 at Sound 80, re-recording some of the Moonsound songs.


"For the demo tape, Prince and Husney chose 'Baby' and 'Soft and Wet'... The Sound 80 sessions were important in shaping Prince's future musical style since it was the first time he worked with synthesizers, including an Oberheim 4-Voice...


"Husney and Levinson put together a press kit in order to promote Prince to the record companies." 


 


Owen Husney donated the press kit / demo to the Minnesota Historical Society:


https://www.mnhs.org/media/news/10962


 

[Edited 10/23/19 18:56pm]


Right. This has all been discussed and confirmed with both Chris Moon and Owen Husney - also Bobby Z, who was an errand boy for Chris Moon where he got to know Prince from seeing him at Moon’s studio all the time. He talked about it during his interview with Questlove.
Reply #170 posted 10/26/19 5:01am

donnyenglish

My quick take:
- Prince lived a very clean life in terms of drugs and alcohol. I believe that Morris was close enough to know.
- Morris and Prince were like brothers.
- Prince would turn on people quickly and took advantage of people at times.
- I am very intrigued by the work Prince and Morris did at Paisley during the Musicology era.
- Morris had more contribution to The Time and some of the songs on Prince’s albums than we thought.
- I would kill to hear any recording by Grand Central Station.
- Prince knew he did not have much time.
Reply #171 posted 10/26/19 6:55am

icecreamcastle777

Read it. To each it's own for the ones that thought this was a great book. He didn't reveal anything significant. I didn't really learn nothing new except for how low he sunk in drugs, and even the details on that was vague. The whole whole book was written in vague details. The part where Prince threw him out of his house was heartbreaking. Other than that, it was a forgettable book. I doubt anyone is gonna be talking about or quoting from this book in a few months.

[Edited 10/26/19 7:22am]

Reply #172 posted 10/26/19 7:12am

Mumio

icecreamcastle777 said:

Read it. To each it's own for the ones that thought this was a great book. He didn't reveal anything significant. I didn't really learn nothing new except for how low he sunk in drugs, and even the details on that was vague. The whole whole book was written in vague details. The part where Prince threw him out of his house was heartbreaking. Other than that, it was an unforgettable book. I doubt anyone is gonna be talking about or quoting from this book in a few months.

Did you really mean to say "forgettable"? Because it sounds like that was what you meant.

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
Reply #173 posted 10/26/19 7:21am

icecreamcastle777

Mumio said:

icecreamcastle777 said:

Read it. To each it's own for the ones that thought this was a great book. He didn't reveal anything significant. I didn't really learn nothing new except for how low he sunk in drugs, and even the details on that was vague. The whole whole book was written in vague details. The part where Prince threw him out of his house was heartbreaking. Other than that, it was an unforgettable book. I doubt anyone is gonna be talking about or quoting from this book in a few months.

Did you really mean to say "forgettable"? Because it sounds like that was what you meant.

Yeah, you're right. "forgettable" Thanks for pointing out.

Reply #174 posted 10/26/19 7:35am

violetcrush

donnyenglish said:

My quick take:
- Prince lived a very clean life in terms of drugs and alcohol. I believe that Morris was close enough to know.
- Morris and Prince were like brothers.
- Prince would turn on people quickly and took advantage of people at times.
- I am very intrigued by the work Prince and Morris did at Paisley during the Musicology era.
- Morris had more contribution to The Time and some of the songs on Prince’s albums than we thought.
- I would kill to hear any recording by Grand Central Station.
- Prince knew he did not have much time.

Thanks for the bullet points on the book. This is why I waited. Seems as though, with the exception of a couple personal stories, most of the information has been out there in one form or another.
Reply #175 posted 10/26/19 7:21pm

Goddess4Real

I get my book this Friday.....I cannot wait woot!

Keep Calm & Listen To Prince
Reply #176 posted 10/28/19 4:30pm

PeggyO

The Prince "voice" is off-putting to me...seems like an uncomfortable power imbalance between "friends".

Reply #177 posted 10/29/19 3:17am

BartVanHemelen

https://www.demorgen.be/t...~b46f843b/

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Long review contrasting The Beautiful Ones with Morris Day's On Time in Belgian newspaper De Morgen today (in Dutch). In the newspaper there is a big photo on the front page of the newspaper, and the review takes up the first 1.5 page of the second section of the newspaper. (I'll post photos later.)

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Reply #178 posted 10/29/19 7:32am

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

So Prince tried to convert Morris to the Jehovah's Witness proceeding removing the Time from the 7.7.20077 shows?

#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence
I will make you cyber shit in your pants!
What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In
Reply #179 posted 10/29/19 9:22am

violetcrush

BartVanHemelen said:

https://www.demorgen.be/tv-cultuur/twee-nieuwe-prince-biografieen-de-sexy-motherfucker-blijkt-ook-maar-een-mens~b46f843b/


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Long review contrasting The Beautiful Ones with Morris Day's On Time in Belgian newspaper De Morgen today (in Dutch). In the newspaper there is a big photo on the front page of the newspaper, and the review takes up the first 1.5 page of the second section of the newspaper. (I'll post photos later.)


Seems as though De Morgen does not have too much praise for Morris’s book. Although, it’s understandable that most would prefer Prince’s, so not really fair to compare the two.
Reply #180 posted 10/29/19 9:24am

violetcrush

OldFriends4Sale said:

 


 


So Prince tried to convert Morris to the Jehovah's Witness proceeding removing the Time from the 7.7.20077 shows?


You mean “preceding” (before) he dropped them from the show? If so, WOW.
Reply #181 posted 10/29/19 3:49pm

PennyPurple

OldFriends4Sale said:

So Prince tried to convert Morris to the Jehovah's Witness proceeding removing the Time from the 7.7.20077 shows?

Chapter 25 pages 171-175

As Morris called it 'The Come-to-Jesus Talk. Morris was in the studio with Prince working on songs, and had 6 songs that were ready to be recorded for a new Time album. They were also talking about the Time opening for P on the next tour.

THEN they had the 'talk' and Morris wasn't down with and he split, didn't hear from P for years, then Morris got an invite to P's Bel Air 'rental' home (2005).


Still don't know what the reasons were behind P canceling the Time.

Reply #182 posted 10/29/19 5:56pm

violetcrush

PennyPurple said:

 



OldFriends4Sale said:


 


 


So Prince tried to convert Morris to the Jehovah's Witness proceeding removing the Time from the 7.7.20077 shows?



Chapter 25 pages 171-175


As Morris called it 'The Come-to-Jesus Talk. Morris was in the studio with Prince working on songs, and had 6 songs that were ready to be recorded for a new Time album. They were also talking about the Time opening for P on the next tour.


THEN they had the 'talk' and Morris wasn't down with and he split, didn't hear from P for years, then Morris got an invite to P's Bel Air 'rental' home (2005).



Still don't know what the reasons were behind P canceling the Time.


Seems as though Prince was hitting everyone up with the “come to Jesus” (or probably more specifically - JW) in the late 90’s to early 2000’s - Questlove talked about it, and Morris Hayes said he left for several years because of the religious talk. Prince also cancelled the Roadhouse Garden project in 1999 because Wendy and Lisa’s sexuality no longer fit into his belief system.
*
Really a bummer to think about some of the great projects/collaborations that were missed because of Prince’s hardline stance during that time.
Reply #183 posted 10/31/19 9:43pm

MoodyBlumes

violetcrush said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

So Prince tried to convert Morris to the Jehovah's Witness proceeding removing the Time from the 7.7.20077 shows?

You mean “preceding” (before) he dropped them from the show? If so, WOW.

Prince spoke to Morris about his faith... okay. But Prince obviously worked with musicians, singers, artists who weren't JWs right up to the end of his life.

Reply #184 posted 11/01/19 5:03am

PennyPurple

violetcrush said:

PennyPurple said:

Chapter 25 pages 171-175

As Morris called it 'The Come-to-Jesus Talk. Morris was in the studio with Prince working on songs, and had 6 songs that were ready to be recorded for a new Time album. They were also talking about the Time opening for P on the next tour.

THEN they had the 'talk' and Morris wasn't down with and he split, didn't hear from P for years, then Morris got an invite to P's Bel Air 'rental' home (2005).


Still don't know what the reasons were behind P canceling the Time.

Seems as though Prince was hitting everyone up with the “come to Jesus” (or probably more specifically - JW) in the late 90’s to early 2000’s - Questlove talked about it, and Morris Hayes said he left for several years because of the religious talk. Prince also cancelled the Roadhouse Garden project in 1999 because Wendy and Lisa’s sexuality no longer fit into his belief system. * Really a bummer to think about some of the great projects/collaborations that were missed because of Prince’s hardline stance during that time.

Some of the things the author of The Beautiful Ones put in the book was Prince whispering in the authors ear while watching Morris, and I get the feeling P wasn't too hip on their show. I believe this was the last time Morris seen Prince.

Reply #185 posted 11/01/19 5:46am

violetcrush

PennyPurple said:

 



violetcrush said:


PennyPurple said:

 


Chapter 25 pages 171-175


As Morris called it 'The Come-to-Jesus Talk. Morris was in the studio with Prince working on songs, and had 6 songs that were ready to be recorded for a new Time album. They were also talking about the Time opening for P on the next tour.


THEN they had the 'talk' and Morris wasn't down with and he split, didn't hear from P for years, then Morris got an invite to P's Bel Air 'rental' home (2005).



Still don't know what the reasons were behind P canceling the Time.



Seems as though Prince was hitting everyone up with the “come to Jesus” (or probably more specifically - JW) in the late 90’s to early 2000’s - Questlove talked about it, and Morris Hayes said he left for several years because of the religious talk. Prince also cancelled the Roadhouse Garden project in 1999 because Wendy and Lisa’s sexuality no longer fit into his belief system. * Really a bummer to think about some of the great projects/collaborations that were missed because of Prince’s hardline stance during that time.

Some of the things the author of The Beautiful Ones put in the book was Prince whispering in the authors ear while watching Morris, and I get the feeling P wasn't too hip on their show. I believe this was the last time Morris seen Prince. 


Yes, per Morris, it was the last time he saw Prince. I didn’t get the impression that he didn’t like their show when he was whispering to Dan. My thought was that it was just Prince giving his new young friend tidbits of info while they were playing. Prince waited for Morris and hugged him and told him he loved him after that show, so I think he appreciated Morris and the guys being there at PP.
Reply #186 posted 11/02/19 2:09pm

PeggyO

PennyPurple said:

violetcrush said:

PennyPurple said: Seems as though Prince was hitting everyone up with the “come to Jesus” (or probably more specifically - JW) in the late 90’s to early 2000’s - Questlove talked about it, and Morris Hayes said he left for several years because of the religious talk. Prince also cancelled the Roadhouse Garden project in 1999 because Wendy and Lisa’s sexuality no longer fit into his belief system. * Really a bummer to think about some of the great projects/collaborations that were missed because of Prince’s hardline stance during that time.

Some of the things the author of The Beautiful Ones put in the book was Prince whispering in the authors ear while watching Morris, and I get the feeling P wasn't too hip on their show. I believe this was the last time Morris seen Prince.

I think I heard that after the Time's show, both Prince and Morris were sitting in his 'little kitchen' in one of the booths and Prince said, at some point, "I love you" to Morris.

I heard he was dancing during the show.

Reply #187 posted 11/02/19 3:51pm

violetcrush

PeggyO said:

 



PennyPurple said:


 



violetcrush said:


PennyPurple said: Seems as though Prince was hitting everyone up with the “come to Jesus” (or probably more specifically - JW) in the late 90’s to early 2000’s - Questlove talked about it, and Morris Hayes said he left for several years because of the religious talk. Prince also cancelled the Roadhouse Garden project in 1999 because Wendy and Lisa’s sexuality no longer fit into his belief system. * Really a bummer to think about some of the great projects/collaborations that were missed because of Prince’s hardline stance during that time.

Some of the things the author of The Beautiful Ones put in the book was Prince whispering in the authors ear while watching Morris, and I get the feeling P wasn't too hip on their show. I believe this was the last time Morris seen Prince. 



 


I think I heard that after the Time's show, both Prince and Morris were sitting in his 'little kitchen' in one of the booths and Prince said, at some point, "I love you" to Morris.


I heard he was dancing during the show.


I believe Morris stated he was walking around PP just after the show when Prince unexpectedly walked out of a dark hallway. He was clapping and said something like “you still got it” to Morris. They talked and then Prince hugged him and told him he loved him.
Reply #188 posted 11/02/19 6:38pm

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame

PeggyO said:

I think I heard that after the Time's show, both Prince and Morris were sitting in his 'little kitchen' in one of the booths and Prince said, at some point, "I love you" to Morris.

I heard he was dancing during the show.



That is what Morris said on Jimmy Jam's radio show. He said they talked about an hour.

Reply #189 posted 11/03/19 4:05am

donnyenglish

What year did Prince kick Morris out of his house?

Reply #190 posted 11/12/19 8:24am

TheTruth123

violetcrush said:

PennyPurple said:

 



OldFriends4Sale said:


 


 


So Prince tried to convert Morris to the Jehovah's Witness proceeding removing the Time from the 7.7.20077 shows?



Chapter 25 pages 171-175


As Morris called it 'The Come-to-Jesus Talk. Morris was in the studio with Prince working on songs, and had 6 songs that were ready to be recorded for a new Time album. They were also talking about the Time opening for P on the next tour.


THEN they had the 'talk' and Morris wasn't down with and he split, didn't hear from P for years, then Morris got an invite to P's Bel Air 'rental' home (2005).



Still don't know what the reasons were behind P canceling the Time.


Seems as though Prince was hitting everyone up with the “come to Jesus” (or probably more specifically - JW) in the late 90’s to early 2000’s - Questlove talked about it, and Morris Hayes said he left for several years because of the religious talk. Prince also cancelled the Roadhouse Garden project in 1999 because Wendy and Lisa’s sexuality no longer fit into his belief system.
*
Really a bummer to think about some of the great projects/collaborations that were missed because of Prince’s hardline stance during that time.



Everything in Prince’s life happened exactly as it was supposed to. Why would I want to hear the Revolution with him for a million years? If all this never happened we wouldn’t have gotten all the different genres of music we did and Prince wouldn’t have been able to mentor as many people as he did.
Reply #191 posted 11/12/19 5:55pm

violetcrush

TheTruth123 said:

violetcrush said:


Seems as though Prince was hitting everyone up with the “come to Jesus” (or probably more specifically - JW) in the late 90’s to early 2000’s - Questlove talked about it, and Morris Hayes said he left for several years because of the religious talk. Prince also cancelled the Roadhouse Garden project in 1999 because Wendy and Lisa’s sexuality no longer fit into his belief system.
*
Really a bummer to think about some of the great projects/collaborations that were missed because of Prince’s hardline stance during that time.



Everything in Prince’s life happened exactly as it was supposed to. Why would I want to hear the Revolution with him for a million years? If all this never happened we wouldn’t have gotten all the different genres of music we did and Prince wouldn’t have been able to mentor as many people as he did.

To each his own with regard to interest in some of his choices. I myself would much rather have listened to the Roadhouse Garden release instead of RU2TJF or TRC. We actually would not have had to choose, as he could have released it with the others. He could also have worked with The Time. My point was that, because of his extreme religious stance, we lost some additional projects that no doubt would have been fantastic.
Reply #192 posted 11/13/19 2:33am

lurker316


The chronology, as Morris tells it, seems a bit off to me.

In Chapter 8 Morris says Prince called him to tell him "Get It Up" dropped and was a hit, therefore they needed to come up with a name for the band. When he says the song dropped and was a hit, that means it was released to radio stations and was getting a lot of air play/popular support. How could that have happened if *before* the band had a name? Did the DJs say, "Here's a song by... Well, I don't know." Did the 45 says "Unknown" where a band name would normally go?

He also says that he, Morris, recorded the lead vocals for the album, then they lined up Alexander O'Neal to be the lead singer, then Alexander got dropped because he demanded more money, and only then, as a backup plan, did they decided Morris would be he lead vocalist. Why would they have recorded Morris singing all the songs *before* they decided he'd be the lead singer?

Similarly, he says they came up with the name The Time before they hired Flyte Time, as though it was a massive coincidence that they independently came up with the name The Time and then just happened to hire a band called Flyte Time to play the role.




Reply #193 posted 11/13/19 4:27pm

ChocolateBox3121

lurker316 said:


The chronology, as Morris tells it, seems a bit off to me.

In Chapter 8 Morris says Prince called him to tell him "Get It Up" dropped and was a hit, therefore they needed to come up with a name for the band. When he says the song dropped and was a hit, that means it was released to radio stations and was getting a lot of air play/popular support. How could that have happened if *before* the band had a name? Did the DJs say, "Here's a song by... Well, I don't know." Did the 45 says "Unknown" where a band name would normally go?

He also says that he, Morris, recorded the lead vocals for the album, then they lined up Alexander O'Neal to be the lead singer, then Alexander got dropped because he demanded more money, and only then, as a backup plan, did they decided Morris would be he lead vocalist. Why would they have recorded Morris singing all the songs *before* they decided he'd be the lead singer?

Similarly, he says they came up with the name The Time before they hired Flyte Time, as though it was a massive coincidence that they independently came up with the name The Time and then just happened to hire a band called Flyte Time to play the role.




I can answer that! When I first heard "Get It Up" on the radio in 1981. They would NEVER say who it was. I knew IMMEDIATELY it was Prince(R.I.P.) or had something to do with him. Rumors started that it was his brother or cousin. Then when the song started getting major airplay weeks later they started saying it was The Time. Then my hook up place that had ALL the latest Prince & associate records got the 45 single.

So Morris actually cleared up to me in the book why. It was no name at first. That actually is brilliant promotion buzz. I personally believe Prince(r.i.p.) was leaning toward releasing it as his single.

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances."prince 1985
"eye don't think about gone just think about the future when eye don't want 2 speak n real time" prince 2004
Reply #194 posted 11/14/19 5:56am

Ugot2shakesumthin

ChocolateBox3121 said:

lurker316 said:


The chronology, as Morris tells it, seems a bit off to me.

In Chapter 8 Morris says Prince called him to tell him "Get It Up" dropped and was a hit, therefore they needed to come up with a name for the band. When he says the song dropped and was a hit, that means it was released to radio stations and was getting a lot of air play/popular support. How could that have happened if *before* the band had a name? Did the DJs say, "Here's a song by... Well, I don't know." Did the 45 says "Unknown" where a band name would normally go?

He also says that he, Morris, recorded the lead vocals for the album, then they lined up Alexander O'Neal to be the lead singer, then Alexander got dropped because he demanded more money, and only then, as a backup plan, did they decided Morris would be he lead vocalist. Why would they have recorded Morris singing all the songs *before* they decided he'd be the lead singer?

Similarly, he says they came up with the name The Time before they hired Flyte Time, as though it was a massive coincidence that they independently came up with the name The Time and then just happened to hire a band called Flyte Time to play the role.




I can answer that! When I first heard "Get It Up" on the radio in 1981. They would NEVER say who it was. I knew IMMEDIATELY it was Prince(R.I.P.) or had something to do with him. Rumors started that it was his brother or cousin. Then when the song started getting major airplay weeks later they started saying it was The Time. Then my hook up place that had ALL the latest Prince & associate records got the 45 single.

So Morris actually cleared up to me in the book why. It was no name at first. That actually is brilliant promotion buzz. I personally believe Prince(r.i.p.) was leaning toward releasing it as his single.

I did not know that. Thank you. I was wondering the same thing about that.

Reply #195 posted 11/14/19 11:33am

ChocolateBox3121

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"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances."prince 1985
"eye don't think about gone just think about the future when eye don't want 2 speak n real time" prince 2004
Reply #196 posted 11/15/19 8:09am

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

TheTruth123 said:

violetcrush said:
Seems as though Prince was hitting everyone up with the “come to Jesus” (or probably more specifically - JW) in the late 90’s to early 2000’s - Questlove talked about it, and Morris Hayes said he left for several years because of the religious talk. Prince also cancelled the Roadhouse Garden project in 1999 because Wendy and Lisa’s sexuality no longer fit into his belief system. * Really a bummer to think about some of the great projects/collaborations that were missed because of Prince’s hardline stance during that time.
Everything in Prince’s life happened exactly as it was supposed to. Why would I want to hear the Revolution with him for a million years? If all this never happened we wouldn’t have gotten all the different genres of music we did and Prince wouldn’t have been able to mentor as many people as he did.

not exactly true, By 1986 the Purple camp had delved into all musical genre... he never needed to touch on gansta rap. And I know people have differing views of spiritual living etc, but he was a man/human. He made mistakes like all of us. It happened as it happened, not as it was to happen.

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When mortality hit him, he was shaken, and things and people that meant more to him he began reaching out to them in a different way.

#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence
I will make you cyber shit in your pants!
What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In
Reply #197 posted 11/15/19 10:44am

RJOrion

The term "Gangsta Rsp" gets thrown around too easily ... Prince NEVER performed "gangsta rap"..."gangsta rap" is a genre that chronicles and depicts gang and criminal activity (often their own)...Prince didnt do that...just because someone says bitch or shit or nigga or fuck in their lyrics, doesnt make it "gangsta rap"
Reply #198 posted 11/15/19 11:59am

OldFriends4Sale

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RJOrion said:

The term "Gangsta Rsp" gets thrown around too easily ... Prince NEVER performed "gangsta rap"..."gangsta rap" is a genre that chronicles and depicts gang and criminal activity (often their own)...Prince didnt do that...just because someone says bitch or shit or nigga or fuck in their lyrics, doesnt make it "gangsta rap"

rolleyes I know this RJOrion

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Reply #199 posted 11/16/19 8:52am

Ugot2shakesumthin

I was so glad to hear that privately Prince had told Morris that he liked Oak Tree and was happy for him even though he teased the track in concert. And of course that they eventually had one last time to talk before Prince died.

Reply #200 posted 11/16/19 10:52am

violetcrush

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

I was so glad to hear that privately Prince had told Morris that he liked Oak Tree and was happy for him even though he teased the track in concert. And of course that they eventually had one last time to talk before Prince died.


Prince could not stop himself from digs toward those who left his camp - Morris, Jimmy and Terry, Paul P, etc. He was just too competitive. Jimmy said he found a smashed up Control CD on his driveway right after it was released and he knew it was Prince who had done it. His 3-part interview with Questlove was great. He also detailed the genesis of The Time and how Morris got the lead spot over Alexander O’Neal. Such a funny story! No doubt how Prince came up with the “Alexander Nevermind” moniker biggrin
Reply #201 posted 11/16/19 11:30am

Ugot2shakesumthin

Is there anything to back up the claim that Get It Up was originally released to radio blind without a band name? Prince Vault nor Wikipedia state that bit of information. Which is a big deal for a band a song that became a major track in purple history.

Reply #202 posted 11/16/19 7:54pm

MoodyBlumes

TheTruth123 said:

violetcrush said:
Seems as though Prince was hitting everyone up with the “come to Jesus” (or probably more specifically - JW) in the late 90’s to early 2000’s - Questlove talked about it, and Morris Hayes said he left for several years because of the religious talk. Prince also cancelled the Roadhouse Garden project in 1999 because Wendy and Lisa’s sexuality no longer fit into his belief system. * Really a bummer to think about some of the great projects/collaborations that were missed because of Prince’s hardline stance during that time.
Everything in Prince’s life happened exactly as it was supposed to. Why would I want to hear the Revolution with him for a million years? If all this never happened we wouldn’t have gotten all the different genres of music we did and Prince wouldn’t have been able to mentor as many people as he did.

I agree, and Prince later told those who joined him to be prepared that it wouldn't last forever. He was constantly changing things up, even his clothing designs and color schemes, never mind song arrangements. I found it funny when Paul Peterson said he wanted Prince to reconsitute the Family and be involved, and Prince said sure... if you become vegetarian; in other words... no.

Reply #203 posted 11/17/19 11:58am

ChocolateBox3121

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

Is there anything to back up the claim that Get It Up was originally released to radio blind without a band name? Prince Vault nor Wikipedia state that bit of information. Which is a big deal for a band a song that became a major track in purple history.

rolleyes

Can U read?

I already gave a GREAT example of it!

"4 all of us, life is death without adventure,& adventure only comes 2 those who are willing 2 b daring & take chances."prince 1985
"eye don't think about gone just think about the future when eye don't want 2 speak n real time" prince 2004
Reply #204 posted 11/17/19 12:02pm

Ugot2shakesumthin

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

Is there anything to back up the claim that Get It Up was originally released to radio blind without a band name? Prince Vault nor Wikipedia state that bit of information. Which is a big deal for a band a song that became a major track in purple history.

rolleyes

Can U read?

I already gave a GREAT example of it!

Yes thank you. You're a great historian, I was just looking for other confirmation.

URL: https://prince.org/msg/5/460826/Morris-E-Day-s-New-Book-On-Time-A-Princely-Life-in-Funk-Available-October-8

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