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Reply #60 posted 01/24/19 2:28pm

Djohnson

ThatWhiteDude said:



Djohnson said:


amethyst68 said:
I couldn’t read your comment. You should consider putting paragraph breaks in your replies for easier reading. But I say to you again, who has Prince publicly proclaimed to love like this: "I've never been this much in love." "I had a lot of women say to me that they were my soulmate. I don't know if they knew what that meant. I know I've never felt it myself until now." "My soul has been in love with my wife for thousands of years." "She makes my soul complete." "I'm in love with everything about her." What makes you think Denise Matthews was the love of his life when Prince has never said she was the love of his life. They dated 2 years when they were both in their early 20’s. Mayte Garcia was in Prince’s life for nearly a decade. What other woman has been in his life that long. You’re trying to compare Denise to a woman he made the center of his world. Did he marry Denise? Did she have his child? Did he proclaim that she changed his life? So, please explain what would make me think she was the love of his life when nothing that he’s said or done demonstrates it. Is it because they made a cute couple. Prince and Mayte were just as beautiful as a couple. Please remember during the short time Prince dated Denise Matthews she was using drugs and continued to use them heavily after leaving Prince until it almost took her life. Everyone who has worked with Prince knows “The Most Beautiful Girl In The Workd” was a song inspired by Mayte. No one doubts it but the women who wish it was inspired by them. Prince released the song on the B side of “Holy River”, the song describing his proposal to Mayte. Also, the co-producer of the song has said it was inspired by Mayte and when he has performed it with his brother since Prince died, he shows photos of Prince and Mayte on a large screen. So let’s dropped the argument about who the song was inspired by. Prince released it on Valentine’s Day a year before he proposed and two years before they married on Valentine’s Day in 1996. [Edited 1/23/19 23:07pm]

Wow you sound really angry just because someone disagrees with you that Mayte wasn't the love of his life. And if you can read at all, you can obviously read my message above. This is a forum. No need for paragraph format. Just because P said wonderful things about Mayte during their courtship, doesn't mean he felt that way forever. Love P for his musical talent and he was a musical genius. But he was in fact a mind manipulator when it came to women. As far as "The Most Beautiful Girl In The World" song was inspired by Carmen Electra first. She has PROOF in a handwritten note posted on her IG acct. Go check it out. Then he switched it to Mayte after Carmen cheated on him and left him heartbroken. He took her to his place and played "I love you, but I hate you" song to Carmen letting her know it was over. Then came Mayte and he cast her in the video, probably as a dig to get at Carmen Electra. Once he ANNULED his marriage to Mayte, which some claim wasn't a legit marriage because he shouldn't have been able to Annul it. It should have been a divorce, not an annulment. That means "it never happened". She wanted him back, he didn't want her back. He referenced her as a clinger that wouldn't go away to some of his circle. Then she saw him out several yrs later and stated when she approached him and told him she forgave him, he looked at her like she had 3 heads. He was horrible to her after she couldn't give him children. He still spoke to Denise every so often up until her death. And yes, out of all the women they were the best looking couple. You could see the love and chemistry in several photos. He would have done anything to have gotten Denise back even in 1995 when he was dating Mayte. But Denise is the one who chose to not go back to him. I could care less what's on his funeral program. Prince had no say in what was printed. He didn't leave a will, so I'm sure he didnt leave a copy of his funeral program to be distributed. And it was made by Mani and Mayte. So of course their pics would be in it. Lol Common sense isn't so common. And btw Rasbery Beret was written for Apollonia. It's rumored they had a relationship during Purple Reign era. Still wonder if the rumor was true he had aids that he contracted HIV in the early 90's. If that's true, he could have infected many ladies who will probably never say. The rumor P went off his HIV meds because he believed God would heal him sounds like something extreme he would do to honor his faith. His sister Tyka even referenced it being true and she knew he didn't have long to live. Reports say he had gf's the last few yrs of his life, but remained abstanant. That mazkes sense. The claims before he died that he was suffering from the flu was a stretch for anyone who has common sense. And a pharmacy worker rumored P used to pickup HIV meds at their pharmacy. Bottom line he was a player and musical genius. That's what we need to remember him for. His love life is kinda irrelevant there were so many.

Didn't you read Pennys comment? He did not annul the marriage. Prince and Mayte got a divorce. And you say his love life is kinda irrelevant but it was you who started this thread, claiming that Denise was the love of his life, it's just your opinion, not a known fact, only Prince could know it for sure who it really was. Yes he kept in touch with Denise, but that doesn't mean she was his soulmate, could be that they were just best friends, ever thought of that? Maybe he didn't keep in touch with Mayte because the past with her was too painful for him, and Mani? I don't know about that.....she divorced him, maybe that hurt him too.



So if his love life is so irrelevant, why do you feel the need to discuss it?



You sure do need to calm down. Not good for you to get so upset over a P thread. Me saying it's irrelevant was intended to calm you down from being butt hurt. But since you are showing your claws and getting so mad, please understand not everyone thinks M1 was his soulmate. My 1st husband told me the same bs. We were together and married 13 yrs and had 3 children. He cheated on me numerous times. He told me i was the love of his life, his soulmate. He was an awesome guitar player and made songs for me. But you know What? I left him because TRUE love doesnt hurt. I went thru a medical crisis and he was there thru it, but picked up his cheating scandals after my medical issues. That's not TRUE LOVE!! True love is someone who will be there through thick and thin, not abandon you. My ex has numerous times came to me cried and apologized. Im happily remarried now and would NEVER take him back. My husband now sticks by me through the good, bad, and ugly. That's a soulmate! Sorry you don't understand the true meaning. When someone sends you away, leaves you to grieve your lost child alone and then burns everything in remembrance that's not grief, that's starting over and closing a chapter of one's life they no longer want. Plain and simple. He moved on with Mani and looked very happy in their wedding photos and all the other photos I've seen. He made a new life with her and never once tried to apologize for treating Mayte they way he did. What everyone needs to do is encourage M1 to move on and find the happiness she deserves and has never obviously known. She's not getting younger and deserves the love of a man who cherishes her and won't be mentally abusive. Im sure she experienced mental abuse with Tommy Lee as well. But was angry when he broke it off. Shame she must not know how true men that live you treat you. I wish that for her, and so should everyone else who cares for her. Instead of preaching to her the way P treated her was so romantic and beautiful. It may have been for a moment, but it didn't last long after they married. It's a shame y'all support mental abuse towards women. Denise never allowed him to do that to her, that's why he was still intrigued and loved her like he said at his concert after her death. He always loved Denise. And she admitted he was the love of her life. Now they RIP together.
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Reply #61 posted 01/24/19 2:47pm

Djohnson

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TheTruth123 said:



In the LA Program there were pictures of three women: Mayte, Manuela and Andy. Of course the program was decided upon by M1 & M2 (meaning M2, lol...)


This program is online. There is NO pic of AA in the program. There is a short quote from her. There are multiple pics of P with Mayte and MAnuela and some with band members (AA not pictured)



In M1's own words after her second miscarriage with P. Does this sound like they way you'd treat your soulmate? Actions speak louder than words. Bet he wouldn't have left Denise in this situation. I love Prince, but he messed with so many women's heads. Here's M1's words after 2nd miscarriage.

'I went into the bathroom and found blood seeping out of me. It felt like a long walk to the telephone,' writes Garcia.

She called up her husband to let him know what was happening before she left to go have the check-up that had already been scheduled for the day.

He said nothing, voiced no concern and did not even volunteer to accompany his wife.

Once she got to the doctors and had her ultrasound the bad news was confirmed, there was no heartbeat.

Then, the 24-year-old had to tell her husband, 39, that their child was gone.

A soulmate would be there for his wife going through such trauma, not abandon her. I think she makes up in her head that it was his way of dealing with the grief, so she can somehow make peace with the way he treated her. Bottom line if he cared so much, he would have apologized, and talked to her all those yes before his death, but he didn't. He left her cold and YES ANNULED the marriage, no divorce.
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Reply #62 posted 01/24/19 2:51pm

minnesoundlvr

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I think Mayte gets a lot of credit because people like her and has connected with so many unlike the others who remain in their small circle. It's ok to like her, but to say she was his soulmate and all these songs after he annulled their marriage is laughable. He divorced Mani, meaning he accepted the time they were together as husband and wife. He annulled his marriage to Mayte mraning as if they were NEVER married. Why she accepted that and not a divorce, I don't understand. Maybe she was hoping she'd get him back? She's been very open she would have taken him back. Prince knew lots of women. Im sure many were ballentina's. Mayte considers herself a belly dancer, so I don't believe ballentina was a reference to M1. I think so many want to believe that, but the fact remains he spoke of Denise Matthews at his concert, said he loved her and dedicated the rest of his concert to her. He tried to get her back in 1995 after Denise married. He was even dating Mayte at that time, but trying to get back with Denise. I believe he was at the place in life and ready to have a family. Denise refused to take him back, so he tried to make a life and family with M1. Then he thought it wasn't meant to be after they lost the 1st child and another miscarriage. Then he sends her alone to Spain so he can pursue a relationship with M2 who looks like Denise. I've always believed Purple Rain was written about Denise. The movie was about his music and their relationship. I don't think he ever got over her and wanted more with her. But it was too late. He dies just months after she passed and told others close in his circle his time here was done. If he wanted M1 back, he would have pursued her, but he didn't and he annulled the marriage like it never even happened or meant anything to him. You don't do that if the person is the love of your life! Period. Think about it, if he was still in love with her he would have went after her. His actions prove he considered it a closed chapter in his life and banned her from Paisley Park. All along she still loves him grieving outside the gate with fans after his death. C'mon, he used her to get a family and that didn't work. He said bye bye forever and never had anything to do with her again. M2 he admitted he didn't want the divorce. Probably because she looked so much like Denise. Vanity was the love of his life. Dint forget he had a relationship with Carmen Electra also who's a dancer and she has a hand written note from P she's posted calling her "The Most Beautiful Girl In The World" before M1 claimed the song was about her. He was a player, he probably told many women it was about them. He was a casinova.

There is this misconception that he annulled his marriage with Mayte. NO.HE.DIDN'T. and not legally.

He put on this big show for the public, with fake paperwork to make it look like he was anulling it. He and Mayte actually got a divorce, just like P and M2 did.


I'm not saying anybody was the love of his life or his soulmate, just trying to clear up the misconception about the annullment.

I think just about everyone knows that Prince was not successful in annulling his marriage to M1. The point is that he TRIED to erase their union, as though it never even happened. That is an undeniable fact.

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Reply #63 posted 01/24/19 2:57pm

minnesoundlvr

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She wasn’t banned from Paisley Park either. You’re like all the rest, you pick up on a rumor and repeat it without looking into it for yourself. If she was banned, she wouldn’t have been there for his funeral and several times since then.

While I've also heard the rumor that Prince banned M1 from PP, who knows if he actually did so formally. Since he is gone, however, it is no longer up to him. It's kinda like his acohol ban at Paisley, which is also no longer enforced.

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Reply #64 posted 01/24/19 2:58pm

Djohnson

minnesoundlvr said:



PennyPurple said:




Djohnson said:


I think Mayte gets a lot of credit because people like her and has connected with so many unlike the others who remain in their small circle. It's ok to like her, but to say she was his soulmate and all these songs after he annulled their marriage is laughable. He divorced Mani, meaning he accepted the time they were together as husband and wife. He annulled his marriage to Mayte mraning as if they were NEVER married. Why she accepted that and not a divorce, I don't understand. Maybe she was hoping she'd get him back? She's been very open she would have taken him back. Prince knew lots of women. Im sure many were ballentina's. Mayte considers herself a belly dancer, so I don't believe ballentina was a reference to M1. I think so many want to believe that, but the fact remains he spoke of Denise Matthews at his concert, said he loved her and dedicated the rest of his concert to her. He tried to get her back in 1995 after Denise married. He was even dating Mayte at that time, but trying to get back with Denise. I believe he was at the place in life and ready to have a family. Denise refused to take him back, so he tried to make a life and family with M1. Then he thought it wasn't meant to be after they lost the 1st child and another miscarriage. Then he sends her alone to Spain so he can pursue a relationship with M2 who looks like Denise. I've always believed Purple Rain was written about Denise. The movie was about his music and their relationship. I don't think he ever got over her and wanted more with her. But it was too late. He dies just months after she passed and told others close in his circle his time here was done. If he wanted M1 back, he would have pursued her, but he didn't and he annulled the marriage like it never even happened or meant anything to him. You don't do that if the person is the love of your life! Period. Think about it, if he was still in love with her he would have went after her. His actions prove he considered it a closed chapter in his life and banned her from Paisley Park. All along she still loves him grieving outside the gate with fans after his death. C'mon, he used her to get a family and that didn't work. He said bye bye forever and never had anything to do with her again. M2 he admitted he didn't want the divorce. Probably because she looked so much like Denise. Vanity was the love of his life. Dint forget he had a relationship with Carmen Electra also who's a dancer and she has a hand written note from P she's posted calling her "The Most Beautiful Girl In The World" before M1 claimed the song was about her. He was a player, he probably told many women it was about them. He was a casinova.

There is this misconception that he annulled his marriage with Mayte. NO.HE.DIDN'T. and not legally.


He put on this big show for the public, with fake paperwork to make it look like he was anulling it. He and Mayte actually got a divorce, just like P and M2 did.



I'm not saying anybody was the love of his life or his soulmate, just trying to clear up the misconception about the annullment.



I think everyone knows that Prince was not successful in annulling his marriage to M1. The point is that he TRIED to erase their union, as though it never even happened. That is an undeniable fact.




There is still speculation as to whether he and M1 were even legally married. No paperwork regarding their marriage/divorce/anullment on file. But there is paperwork proof of his and Manuella' s divorce. P could have mind played with M1 in a fake ceremony that may not have even been legal. That would explain why he could say it was ANNULED instead of divorced because they were NEVER legally married. Who knows, but something's not right. Here's a link that shows proof of his and M2 divorce. Nothing about M1 https://www.lipstickalley...d.1036323/
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Reply #65 posted 01/24/19 2:58pm

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ThatWhiteDude said:

Didn't you read Pennys comment? He did not annul the marriage. Prince and Mayte got a divorce. And you say his love life is kinda irrelevant but it was you who started this thread, claiming that Denise was the love of his life, it's just your opinion, not a known fact, only Prince could know it for sure who it really was. Yes he kept in touch with Denise, but that doesn't mean she was his soulmate, could be that they were just best friends, ever thought of that? Maybe he didn't keep in touch with Mayte because the past with her was too painful for him, and Mani? I don't know about that.....she divorced him, maybe that hurt him too.

So if his love life is so irrelevant, why do you feel the need to discuss it?

You sure do need to calm down. Not good for you to get so upset over a P thread. Me saying it's irrelevant was intended to calm you down from being butt hurt. But since you are showing your claws and getting so mad, please understand not everyone thinks M1 was his soulmate. My 1st husband told me the same bs. We were together and married 13 yrs and had 3 children. He cheated on me numerous times. He told me i was the love of his life, his soulmate. He was an awesome guitar player and made songs for me. But you know What? I left him because TRUE love doesnt hurt. I went thru a medical crisis and he was there thru it, but picked up his cheating scandals after my medical issues. That's not TRUE LOVE!! True love is someone who will be there through thick and thin, not abandon you. My ex has numerous times came to me cried and apologized. Im happily remarried now and would NEVER take him back. My husband now sticks by me through the good, bad, and ugly. That's a soulmate! Sorry you don't understand the true meaning. When someone sends you away, leaves you to grieve your lost child alone and then burns everything in remembrance that's not grief, that's starting over and closing a chapter of one's life they no longer want. Plain and simple. He moved on with Mani and looked very happy in their wedding photos and all the other photos I've seen. He made a new life with her and never once tried to apologize for treating Mayte they way he did. What everyone needs to do is encourage M1 to move on and find the happiness she deserves and has never obviously known. She's not getting younger and deserves the love of a man who cherishes her and won't be mentally abusive. Im sure she experienced mental abuse with Tommy Lee as well. But was angry when he broke it off. Shame she must not know how true men that live you treat you. I wish that for her, and so should everyone else who cares for her. Instead of preaching to her the way P treated her was so romantic and beautiful. It may have been for a moment, but it didn't last long after they married. It's a shame y'all support mental abuse towards women. Denise never allowed him to do that to her, that's why he was still intrigued and loved her like he said at his concert after her death. He always loved Denise. And she admitted he was the love of her life. Now they RIP together.

I'm not mad LOL. and I never claimed that Mayte was his soulmate, honestly, I don't even care who it was, since I don't believe in soulmates or what another person he called "twinflames. All I did was to point out that he did not annul his marriage to her and that I find it contradictorary that you said his love life is irrerlevant but yet you started a thread about who was his soulmate. If you believe that this makes me look mad, well, your head canon, but not the truth.

And while we're on the subject, you should understand that not everybody on this board might believe that D or V was his soulmate, yet you try to convince everybody on this board that this was the case but complain about amesty at the same time.

Both of ya'll are stans tho and neither of you will change the others mind and the rest on this thread doesn't care about that.

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Reply #66 posted 01/24/19 3:04pm

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Djohnson said:

minnesoundlvr said:

I think everyone knows that Prince was not successful in annulling his marriage to M1. The point is that he TRIED to erase their union, as though it never even happened. That is an undeniable fact.

There is still speculation as to whether he and M1 were even legally married. No paperwork regarding their marriage/divorce/anullment on file. But there is paperwork proof of his and Manuella' s divorce. P could have mind played with M1 in a fake ceremony that may not have even been legal. That would explain why he could say it was ANNULED instead of divorced because they were NEVER legally married. Who knows, but something's not right. Here's a link that shows proof of his and M2 divorce. Nothing about M1 https://www.lipstickalley...d.1036323/

And why would he marry mani legally, but not Mayte? It's so funny that there are a lot of people who want to downplay his relationship/marriage to her. Nobody questions his love for Denise or any other woman he was involved with.....only when it comes to Mayte. Just saying.

"Oh he didn't really lover her, it was a fake marriage, he used Mayte to get Denise back." etc. etc. I just find it a little bit disrespectful tho not only towards mayte, but Prince too.

I just saw you linked lipstickalley, that trash site......it makes sense now.

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Reply #67 posted 01/24/19 4:00pm

Djohnson

ThatWhiteDude said:



Djohnson said:


minnesoundlvr said:


I think everyone knows that Prince was not successful in annulling his marriage to M1. The point is that he TRIED to erase their union, as though it never even happened. That is an undeniable fact.



There is still speculation as to whether he and M1 were even legally married. No paperwork regarding their marriage/divorce/anullment on file. But there is paperwork proof of his and Manuella' s divorce. P could have mind played with M1 in a fake ceremony that may not have even been legal. That would explain why he could say it was ANNULED instead of divorced because they were NEVER legally married. Who knows, but something's not right. Here's a link that shows proof of his and M2 divorce. Nothing about M1 https://www.lipstickalley...d.1036323/

And why would he marry mani legally, but not Mayte? It's so funny that there are a lot of people who want to downplay his relationship/marriage to her. Nobody questions his love for Denise or any other woman he was involved with.....only when it comes to Mayte. Just saying.



"Oh he didn't really lover her, it was a fake marriage, he used Mayte to get Denise back." etc. etc. I just find it a little bit disrespectful tho not only towards mayte, but Prince too.




I just saw you linked lipstickalley, that trash site.....it makes sense now.

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My comments are not to dis Mayte, but a dis at P for the mind games he played with her. I think Mayte's a beautiful soul that was young, naive to Prince's charm. I believe and stated all along she deserves better and deserves to find true love. Anyone who truly cares about her should encourage her to let go of the past she seems to cling to. It's the healthiest thing she could do for herself. Im an advocate for women empowerment. I hate seeing women blinded to men casinova mind games to get what they want at that point and time. As I've said I believe he loved and respected Vanity because she broke it off with him and wouldn't take his bs like so many others did. That's what set her a part. And someone said she was doing drugs when she was with P. I've read her drug abuse started when she was with Niki Sixx. Which is believable.

Prince own words at his concert: 'Someone dear to us has passed away, I’m gonna dedicate this song to her.'

He also changed the lyrics to The Ladder to describe his relationship with Vanity and, for an encore, replaced the final words of The Beautiful Ones, 'my knees', with 'Denise'.

Later, the Purple Rain star was remarkably candid about his memories of Denise, saying: 'Her and I used to love each other deeply.'

He continued: 'She loved me for the artist I was, I loved her for the artist she was trying to be.'

In her 1997 book, Blame It On Vanity, Denise claimed that Prince was the only man she ever truly loved, Jet Magazine reported.

Prince paid tribute to his former protégé just one day after her death while performing in Melbourne, Australia, as part of his Piano & a Microphone world tour, dedicated “Little Red Corvette” to Vanity.

“I’m trying to stay focused, it’s a little heavy for me tonight. Just keep jamming,” he told the audience, per News Corp Australia Network.

He referenced her frequently throughout the night, with the deeply private star getting uncharacteristically personal.

“Can I tell you a story about Vanity? Or should I tell you a story about Denise? Her and I used to love each other deeply,” Prince reportedly told the crowd. “She loved me for the artist I was, I loved her for the artist she was trying to be.

“She and I would fight,” he continued. “She was very headstrong ’cause she knew she was the finest woman in the world. She never missed an opportunity to tell you that.”

Denise's own words: “I never thought, ‘Oh God, I’m in Prince’s shadow,’ ” she told PEOPLE. “He’d been performing for years and he was my teacher. I miss his humor. I always felt we’d be like Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor over the years. I can honestly say I love the kid.”

Prince and Vanity were in love before the height of his career. Later on, I know many women dated P for his stardom and to become famous themselves riding on P's coatales. Denise (Vanity) never did that. She was with him before he was enormously famous. She truly loved him for him and he loved her for her. It was a genuine love affair. Nowadays since Prince's death I see so many women trying to now be very relevant in Prince's life in order to make money off him after he's passed. M1 said she'd talked to P about building a school in his name. That was proven untrue. And She still posts about him on IG from time to time. Apollonia makes it now sound as if they had a love affair, after many years of denying it, and that they still remained great friends and in touch. Carmen Electra shared her hand written post to claim the song "The Most Beautiful Girl In The World" was written about her. Mayte made her book which she makes money from and now constantly wraps Prince into her social media accts. Prince threatened to sue her about writing a book, so she waited until after his death. Sheila E has become more relevant to Prince by her own posts since his death.

My opinion this is what his song thieves in the temple referred to. C'mon we all know they played a part in his life, why wait until after his death to now act like you were such a relevant part of his life? None of them were with him the night he passed. Most hadn't spoke, or heard from him in yrs. It's ok to reminece, but I think we all know P would not approve of them seeking money, or fame off his death.

And still he passed 2 months after Denise 💜💜💜


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Reply #68 posted 01/24/19 4:45pm

Djohnson

TheTruth123 said:

amethyst68 said:

“Walk In Sand” was written before he knew Misty Copeland. He was never involved in a romantic relationship with Misty Copeland. The lyrics to the song ate also the mural Prince and Mayte had painted on the headboard of their bed in Spain. It is a painting of the couple walking hand in hand in the desert toward the pyramids in Egypt. The song’s lyrics mention dancing with Royalty. Prince and Mayte not only performed for royalty in Monaco but they also partied with Prince Charles.

Sea of Everything - the very first line he sings about seeing her photos in magazines. I can pull up a boat load of magazine shoots and professional pics Mayte Garcia did after her divorce from Prince. Some of them were done by his very own personal photographer.

The Dance — who would think a song about dancing was about his second wife? The song was written about Mayte Garcia.

I’m surprised you couldn’t figure out TicTacToe was about Mayte. The dolphins at the end of the song should give it away. But even if you’re not up on Prince and Mayte’s connection to dolphins there are the lyrics of the song. Even Mayte Garcia knew the song was about her because she quotes it in her book. Not only the dolphins but he sings about a “balletina”.


The Dance: sometimes things aren’t literal.
Just presenting a few other views here.
There were a number of women who were inspirations to Prince and each connection was somewhat different while many things were the same.


Walk in sand was made @ Paisley Park in 2009 per the Prince Vault. He was married to Manuella at the time. Makes sense this song would be about her with the lyrics and the fact she was involved with Love 4 One Anothher and in the sand in foreign land like she still posts pics today. The music video wasn't done by Prince. Here is the info on it. Why do so many people not give Manuella credit for her marriage to Prince? You could see on his face he was at one time smitten with her. And he married her not because she was pregnant. He married the Denise look alike because he wanted to. This song was definetly about Manuella. He wrote songs for whoever was in his life at the time. They were the inspiration during their chapter in his life. Same way Mayte was during her chapter. But hers was overlapped with Carmen Electra and Manuella was in the picture before the end of his relationship with M1. So only Prince knows who inspired the overlapping songs.


Walk In Sand is the seventh track from Prince's 35th album 20TEN. Soon after its release, the Portuguese beer company Super Bockstreamed a video of the song to promote their product in conjunction with Prince's appearance at the Palco Super Bock music festival. The video was removed, however, following a copyright claim by NPG Records, and it appears it was not sanctioned, so the video is not listed below or in the music videossection.

A tape photographed in Prince's vault at Paisley Park Studios lists it as 1 August 2009alluding the exact date for the recording at Paisley Park Studios in Chanhassen, Minnesota. Unlike the rest of the album, the song features live drums, played by Princehimself, rather than programmed drums.
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Reply #69 posted 01/24/19 4:45pm

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Djohnson said:

minnesoundlvr said:

I think everyone knows that Prince was not successful in annulling his marriage to M1. The point is that he TRIED to erase their union, as though it never even happened. That is an undeniable fact.

There is still speculation as to whether he and M1 were even legally married. No paperwork regarding their marriage/divorce/anullment on file. But there is paperwork proof of his and Manuella' s divorce. P could have mind played with M1 in a fake ceremony that may not have even been legal. That would explain why he could say it was ANNULED instead of divorced because they were NEVER legally married. Who knows, but something's not right. Here's a link that shows proof of his and M2 divorce. Nothing about M1 https://www.lipstickalley...d.1036323/

The certificate of marriage has even been posted on the Org. Kirk Johnson and M1's sister even signed as witnesses. The invites have even been posted here as have the news articles.


I'm not following some stupid link to LSA, that is a vile, vile, place. You want real research, search for it here on the org. lol


They did not get a legal annullment, yes P asked for an annullment, but it was for show, the 'paper' that they signed didn't have a legal leg to stand on. lol


They got divorced, Mayte even talks about signing the papers and she got the house in Spain and a car, that's it. There were lawyers involved. If you want to check facts, look at her book, it's all in there.


Sounds like you are stanning for Vanity, but if that was his soulmate, he would've been with her to the end. He wasn't. Her brother in law told us they kept in contact until 2012...not until her death.


His only true love was his music. He put NO woman ahead of his music.

Everytime someone replies to you, you say they are angry. Nobody is angry, you are just getting the facts wrong, and spinning it.

Yes with M1 he burned everything and possibly tossed the babies ashes into the fire.

With M2, he had her papers, passport, and tore a house down.


He cheated on all his women, even the ones he was cheating with.


The only thing he was loyal to was his music.

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Reply #70 posted 01/24/19 5:27pm

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minnesoundlvr said:

PennyPurple said:

There is this misconception that he annulled his marriage with Mayte. NO.HE.DIDN'T. and not legally.

He put on this big show for the public, with fake paperwork to make it look like he was anulling it. He and Mayte actually got a divorce, just like P and M2 did.


I'm not saying anybody was the love of his life or his soulmate, just trying to clear up the misconception about the annullment.

I think just about everyone knows that Prince was not successful in annulling his marriage to M1. The point is that he TRIED to erase their union, as though it never even happened. That is an undeniable fact.

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Reply #71 posted 01/24/19 5:29pm

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PennyPurple said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I would say the ones he continued to be friends with after the relationship was over was surely real
I have family friends ex lovers pets who are constant, survived the test of time ...the loves of my life

real love expands to embrace more
I know every relationship situation isn't the same and definately doesn't mean they didn't love each other.

The only one he kept in contact with was Vanity. They were in contact up to, at least 2012.

Susannah, Sheila E as well into 2015

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Reply #72 posted 01/24/19 5:33pm

amethyst68

minnesoundlvr said:



PennyPurple said:




Djohnson said:


I think Mayte gets a lot of credit because people like her and has connected with so many unlike the others who remain in their small circle. It's ok to like her, but to say she was his soulmate and all these songs after he annulled their marriage is laughable. He divorced Mani, meaning he accepted the time they were together as husband and wife. He annulled his marriage to Mayte mraning as if they were NEVER married. Why she accepted that and not a divorce, I don't understand. Maybe she was hoping she'd get him back? She's been very open she would have taken him back. Prince knew lots of women. Im sure many were ballentina's. Mayte considers herself a belly dancer, so I don't believe ballentina was a reference to M1. I think so many want to believe that, but the fact remains he spoke of Denise Matthews at his concert, said he loved her and dedicated the rest of his concert to her. He tried to get her back in 1995 after Denise married. He was even dating Mayte at that time, but trying to get back with Denise. I believe he was at the place in life and ready to have a family. Denise refused to take him back, so he tried to make a life and family with M1. Then he thought it wasn't meant to be after they lost the 1st child and another miscarriage. Then he sends her alone to Spain so he can pursue a relationship with M2 who looks like Denise. I've always believed Purple Rain was written about Denise. The movie was about his music and their relationship. I don't think he ever got over her and wanted more with her. But it was too late. He dies just months after she passed and told others close in his circle his time here was done. If he wanted M1 back, he would have pursued her, but he didn't and he annulled the marriage like it never even happened or meant anything to him. You don't do that if the person is the love of your life! Period. Think about it, if he was still in love with her he would have went after her. His actions prove he considered it a closed chapter in his life and banned her from Paisley Park. All along she still loves him grieving outside the gate with fans after his death. C'mon, he used her to get a family and that didn't work. He said bye bye forever and never had anything to do with her again. M2 he admitted he didn't want the divorce. Probably because she looked so much like Denise. Vanity was the love of his life. Dint forget he had a relationship with Carmen Electra also who's a dancer and she has a hand written note from P she's posted calling her "The Most Beautiful Girl In The World" before M1 claimed the song was about her. He was a player, he probably told many women it was about them. He was a casinova.

There is this misconception that he annulled his marriage with Mayte. NO.HE.DIDN'T. and not legally.


He put on this big show for the public, with fake paperwork to make it look like he was anulling it. He and Mayte actually got a divorce, just like P and M2 did.



I'm not saying anybody was the love of his life or his soulmate, just trying to clear up the misconception about the annullment.



I think just about everyone knows that Prince was not successful in annulling his marriage to M1. The point is that he TRIED to erase their union, as though it never even happened. That is an undeniable fact.

[Edited 1/24/19 15:03pm]



Prince wasn’t that ignorant. He knew he couldn’t annul a marriage after having a child. If you listen to the press conference when he announced it, you’d know his intention was to remarry on their anniversary and have a baptism for he and Mayte. To me, it sounded for more like he was trying to force her into joining the Jehovah’s Witness faith. If you read his chats on princeonlinemuseum, he was adamant they were meant to be together forever no matter what. I can’t explain what was going on with him but he wasn’t thinking clearly. Nothing he was doing around that last year of his marriage were the actions of a sane man. You can’t erase a wife or a son. Rather than saying Prince had lost his damn mind, you’d rather trash his grieving wife.
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Reply #73 posted 01/24/19 5:35pm

amethyst68

Djohnson said:

minnesoundlvr said:



PennyPurple said:




Djohnson said:


I think Mayte gets a lot of credit because people like her and has connected with so many unlike the others who remain in their small circle. It's ok to like her, but to say she was his soulmate and all these songs after he annulled their marriage is laughable. He divorced Mani, meaning he accepted the time they were together as husband and wife. He annulled his marriage to Mayte mraning as if they were NEVER married. Why she accepted that and not a divorce, I don't understand. Maybe she was hoping she'd get him back? She's been very open she would have taken him back. Prince knew lots of women. Im sure many were ballentina's. Mayte considers herself a belly dancer, so I don't believe ballentina was a reference to M1. I think so many want to believe that, but the fact remains he spoke of Denise Matthews at his concert, said he loved her and dedicated the rest of his concert to her. He tried to get her back in 1995 after Denise married. He was even dating Mayte at that time, but trying to get back with Denise. I believe he was at the place in life and ready to have a family. Denise refused to take him back, so he tried to make a life and family with M1. Then he thought it wasn't meant to be after they lost the 1st child and another miscarriage. Then he sends her alone to Spain so he can pursue a relationship with M2 who looks like Denise. I've always believed Purple Rain was written about Denise. The movie was about his music and their relationship. I don't think he ever got over her and wanted more with her. But it was too late. He dies just months after she passed and told others close in his circle his time here was done. If he wanted M1 back, he would have pursued her, but he didn't and he annulled the marriage like it never even happened or meant anything to him. You don't do that if the person is the love of your life! Period. Think about it, if he was still in love with her he would have went after her. His actions prove he considered it a closed chapter in his life and banned her from Paisley Park. All along she still loves him grieving outside the gate with fans after his death. C'mon, he used her to get a family and that didn't work. He said bye bye forever and never had anything to do with her again. M2 he admitted he didn't want the divorce. Probably because she looked so much like Denise. Vanity was the love of his life. Dint forget he had a relationship with Carmen Electra also who's a dancer and she has a hand written note from P she's posted calling her "The Most Beautiful Girl In The World" before M1 claimed the song was about her. He was a player, he probably told many women it was about them. He was a casinova.

There is this misconception that he annulled his marriage with Mayte. NO.HE.DIDN'T. and not legally.


He put on this big show for the public, with fake paperwork to make it look like he was anulling it. He and Mayte actually got a divorce, just like P and M2 did.



I'm not saying anybody was the love of his life or his soulmate, just trying to clear up the misconception about the annullment.



I think everyone knows that Prince was not successful in annulling his marriage to M1. The point is that he TRIED to erase their union, as though it never even happened. That is an undeniable fact.




There is still speculation as to whether he and M1 were even legally married. No paperwork regarding their marriage/divorce/anullment on file. But there is paperwork proof of his and Manuella' s divorce. P could have mind played with M1 in a fake ceremony that may not have even been legal. That would explain why he could say it was ANNULED instead of divorced because they were NEVER legally married. Who knows, but something's not right. Here's a link that shows proof of his and M2 divorce. Nothing about M1 https://www.lipstickalley...d.1036323/


Read the lawyers notes on the Minnesota court record website. They talk about obtaining and reviewing their marriage license and divorce decree for whatever Prince left her. Stay away from tabloid gossip. The only “not right” is your common sense.
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Reply #74 posted 01/24/19 5:36pm

minnesoundlvr

PennyPurple said:

Djohnson said:

minnesoundlvr said: There is still speculation as to whether he and M1 were even legally married. No paperwork regarding their marriage/divorce/anullment on file. But there is paperwork proof of his and Manuella' s divorce. P could have mind played with M1 in a fake ceremony that may not have even been legal. That would explain why he could say it was ANNULED instead of divorced because they were NEVER legally married. Who knows, but something's not right. Here's a link that shows proof of his and M2 divorce. Nothing about M1 https://www.lipstickalley...d.1036323/

The certificate of marriage has even been posted on the Org. Kirk Johnson and M1's sister even signed as witnesses. The invites have even been posted here as have the news articles.


I'm not following some stupid link to LSA, that is a vile, vile, place. You want real research, search for it here on the org. lol


They did not get a legal annullment, yes P asked for an annullment, but it was for show, the 'paper' that they signed didn't have a legal leg to stand on. lol


They got divorced, Mayte even talks about signing the papers and she got the house in Spain and a car, that's it. There were lawyers involved. If you want to check facts, look at her book, it's all in there.


Sounds like you are stanning for Vanity, but if that was his soulmate, he would've been with her to the end. He wasn't. Her brother in law told us they kept in contact until 2012...not until her death.


His only true love was his music. He put NO woman ahead of his music.

Everytime someone replies to you, you say they are angry. Nobody is angry, you are just getting the facts wrong, and spinning it.

Yes with M1 he burned everything and possibly tossed the babies ashes into the fire.

With M2, he had her papers, passport, and tore a house down.


He cheated on all his women, even the ones he was cheating with.


The only thing he was loyal to was his music.

Did her brother-in-law offer proof? Is he writing a book?

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Reply #75 posted 01/24/19 5:40pm

Djohnson

OldFriends4Sale said:



PennyPurple said:




OldFriends4Sale said:




I would say the ones he continued to be friends with after the relationship was over was surely real
I have family friends ex lovers pets who are constant, survived the test of time ...the loves of my life


real love expands to embrace more
I know every relationship situation isn't the same and definately doesn't mean they didn't love each other.



The only one he kept in contact with was Vanity. They were in contact up to, at least 2012.




Susannah, Sheila E as well



I agree with this. Same with me. I have boyfried exes I still have love in my heart and stay in contact with them so they know I care even though were not together as a couple anymore. Those are true loves of one's life. Then there are others like my ex husband i have children with. I wish for him to find love and be happy. But I have no desire to stay in contact with him, or know what he's doing, or who he's with. That chapter was closed after our divorce. I wish for him to be happy, but there is no eternal love there or her than he's my kids father. He's not my best friend, lover, and I'm happily remarried and moved on.

I think you're correct there were some that remained special in Prince's heart and even if they weren't together, he still had love for them...Denise, Sheila E and not sure who else? Apollonia claims she still saw him from time to time, but not sure if they really stayed in contact. Those are the true loves of one's life. Because true love never dies.
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Reply #76 posted 01/24/19 5:44pm

amethyst68

Yes,Prince cheated on all of his women but there is no comparison with his relationship with Vanity and the relationship with Mayte Garcia. Longtime fans know this. His associates know this. He never proclaimed his love publicly for any other woman he was with except his first wife. She brought out another side of Prince that fans had never seen before. He’s said so himself that she changed him as a man.

I loved Vanity growing up but fans should stop romanticizing who she was. Beautiful woman but her life was a train wreck when she was with Prince and at least a decade after. How don’t see how she would ever have been good for Prince.
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Reply #77 posted 01/24/19 5:51pm

PennyPurple

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OldFriends4Sale said:

PennyPurple said:

The only one he kept in contact with was Vanity. They were in contact up to, at least 2012.

Susannah, Sheila E as well into 2015

I think Sheila said she hadn't talked to him since their musical split in 2011. I think she told that to the PD in the investigative files. When I have time, I'll try to go thru those files, but Sheila herself said this.

He wouldn't talk to Susannah either, she had to go thru his staff but he did loan her money.

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Reply #78 posted 01/24/19 5:55pm

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TheTruth123 said:
In the LA Program there were pictures of three women: Mayte, Manuela and Andy. Of course the program was decided upon by M1 & M2 (meaning M2, lol...)
This program is online. There is NO pic of AA in the program. There is a short quote from her. There are multiple pics of P with Mayte and MAnuela and some with band members (AA not pictured)

She's in a stage shot with Prince. Next to a picture of Prince and the Prince.

What?
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Reply #79 posted 01/24/19 5:55pm

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minnesoundlvr said:

PennyPurple said:

The certificate of marriage has even been posted on the Org. Kirk Johnson and M1's sister even signed as witnesses. The invites have even been posted here as have the news articles.


I'm not following some stupid link to LSA, that is a vile, vile, place. You want real research, search for it here on the org. lol


They did not get a legal annullment, yes P asked for an annullment, but it was for show, the 'paper' that they signed didn't have a legal leg to stand on. lol


They got divorced, Mayte even talks about signing the papers and she got the house in Spain and a car, that's it. There were lawyers involved. If you want to check facts, look at her book, it's all in there.


Sounds like you are stanning for Vanity, but if that was his soulmate, he would've been with her to the end. He wasn't. Her brother in law told us they kept in contact until 2012...not until her death.


His only true love was his music. He put NO woman ahead of his music.

Everytime someone replies to you, you say they are angry. Nobody is angry, you are just getting the facts wrong, and spinning it.

Yes with M1 he burned everything and possibly tossed the babies ashes into the fire.

With M2, he had her papers, passport, and tore a house down.


He cheated on all his women, even the ones he was cheating with.


The only thing he was loyal to was his music.

Did her brother-in-law offer proof? Is he writing a book?

She left her brother in law quite a lot of things, he used to be on this forum, you can try to look him up under the name Toban. Shoot him a message and if he's still around he may answer you back.

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Reply #80 posted 01/24/19 6:00pm

OldFriends4Sal
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PennyPurple said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Susannah, Sheila E as well into 2015

I think Sheila said she hadn't talked to him since their musical split in 2011. I think she told that to the PD in the investigative files. When I have time, I'll try to go thru those files, but Sheila herself said this.

He wouldn't talk to Susannah either, she had to go thru his staff but he did loan her money.

But I mean he remained friends with them as well.


Susannah said she did speak to him after he got her new number from Wendy in 2015

I believe Sheila talked to him after their falling out, when she fly to Minneapolis.

But again, through the 90s and 2000s he continued friendship with Vanity Sheila E and Susannah

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Reply #81 posted 01/24/19 6:08pm

OldFriends4Sal
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Djohnson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Susannah, Sheila E as well

I agree with this. Same with me. I have boyfried exes I still have love in my heart and stay in contact with them so they know I care even though were not together as a couple anymore. Those are true loves of one's life. Then there are others like my ex husband i have children with. I wish for him to find love and be happy. But I have no desire to stay in contact with him, or know what he's doing, or who he's with. That chapter was closed after our divorce. I wish for him to be happy, but there is no eternal love there or her than he's my kids father. He's not my best friend, lover, and I'm happily remarried and moved on. I think you're correct there were some that remained special in Prince's heart and even if they weren't together, he still had love for them...Denise, Sheila E and not sure who else? Apollonia claims she still saw him from time to time, but not sure if they really stayed in contact. Those are the true loves of one's life. Because true love never dies.

Yes he continued friendship wth Vanity Sheila E and Susannah Melvoin though his life. He talked to her about doing some music together in 2014/15.

I feel a lot of pre 87 people he had a true love for.

Morris Day told the story of when he was at Paisley Park in 2015 I believe and after his performance, Prince said "you still got it, I love you Morris' and Day broke down crying.

I believe most of the people from pre 1987 he knew them differently than those that came after.

From my understanding he kept in touch with Susan Moonsie too, who he acknowledged at a few 3121 shows.

I believe he and Apollonia stayed connected. But they weren't lovers though. PR probably bonded them.

I wish the wisdom of mortality sunk in to Prince 10yrs prior to his death.

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Reply #82 posted 01/24/19 6:09pm

Djohnson

amethyst68 said:

Djohnson said:




There is still speculation as to whether he and M1 were even legally married. No paperwork regarding their marriage/divorce/anullment on file. But there is paperwork proof of his and Manuella' s divorce. P could have mind played with M1 in a fake ceremony that may not have even been legal. That would explain why he could say it was ANNULED instead of divorced because they were NEVER legally married. Who knows, but something's not right. Here's a link that shows proof of his and M2 divorce. Nothing about M1 https://www.lipstickalley...d.1036323/


Read the lawyers notes on the Minnesota court record website. They talk about obtaining and reviewing their marriage license and divorce decree for whatever Prince left her. Stay away from tabloid gossip. The only “not right” is your common sense.


And where is the link to these court docs you are referring to "smart one". Lol Can you provide the proof, or not? Court docs are public records usually marriage & divorce are on court of common pleas website. Since you are stating you've seen the proof then provide the link!
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Reply #83 posted 01/24/19 6:10pm

minnesoundlvr

PennyPurple said:

minnesoundlvr said:

Did her brother-in-law offer proof? Is he writing a book?

She left her brother in law quite a lot of things, he used to be on this forum, you can try to look him up under the name Toban. Shoot him a message and if he's still around he may answer you back.

Thanks. I'll check him out when time permits.

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Reply #84 posted 01/24/19 6:22pm

Djohnson

OldFriends4Sale said:



Djohnson said:


OldFriends4Sale said:



Susannah, Sheila E as well



I agree with this. Same with me. I have boyfried exes I still have love in my heart and stay in contact with them so they know I care even though were not together as a couple anymore. Those are true loves of one's life. Then there are others like my ex husband i have children with. I wish for him to find love and be happy. But I have no desire to stay in contact with him, or know what he's doing, or who he's with. That chapter was closed after our divorce. I wish for him to be happy, but there is no eternal love there or her than he's my kids father. He's not my best friend, lover, and I'm happily remarried and moved on. I think you're correct there were some that remained special in Prince's heart and even if they weren't together, he still had love for them...Denise, Sheila E and not sure who else? Apollonia claims she still saw him from time to time, but not sure if they really stayed in contact. Those are the true loves of one's life. Because true love never dies.


Yes he continued friendship wth Vanity Sheila E and Susannah Melvoin though his life. He talked to Susannah about doing some music together in 2014/15.



I feel a lot of pre 87 people he had a true love for.



Morris Day told the story of when he was at Paisley Park in 2015 I believe and after his performance, Prince said "you still got it, I love you Morris' and Day broke down crying.



I believe most of the people from pre 1987 he knew them differently than those that came after.



From my understanding he kept in touch with Susan Moonsie too, who he acknowledged at a few 3121 shows.



I believe he and Apollonia stayed connected. But they weren't lovers though. PR probably bonded them.



I wish the wisdom of mortality sunk in to Prince 10yrs prior to his death.




That makes sense. Pre 1987 people weren't riding his coattails for fame and fortune like so many used him later in life. I saw Morris Day and The Time 2 yrs ago. I was in the standing 3rd row. A nice guy who looked like he might of been part of Morris Days security (Dressed to the 9's) grabbed my hand and pulled me in front. I'll never forget Morris's face talking about Prince and their friendship. He dedicated a song to him and praised him several times. You could definetly feel the connection of true friendship from the sadness that came over him while honoring him.

I think many of his younger fans get upset when you mention his ties and 80's connections because they weren't born yet, or were too young to remember. But it says a lot those are the people he stayed in connection with during his lifetime. There are those who come and go, and those true friends and loves who stick around a lifetime. His connections with them were probably stronger because they were all just starting out. They had no reason to use eachother.
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Reply #85 posted 01/24/19 6:47pm

amethyst68

Djohnson said:

amethyst68 said:



Read the lawyers notes on the Minnesota court record website. They talk about obtaining and reviewing their marriage license and divorce decree for whatever Prince left her. Stay away from tabloid gossip. The only “not right” is your common sense.


And where is the link to these court docs you are referring to "smart one". Lol Can you provide the proof, or not? Court docs are public records usually marriage & divorce are on court of common pleas website. Since you are stating you've seen the proof then provide the link!


Give me your email address.
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Reply #86 posted 01/24/19 8:48pm

Djohnson

amethyst68 said:[quote]

Djohnson said:



And where is the link to these court docs you are referring to "smart one". Lol Can you provide the proof, or not? Court docs are public records usually marriage & divorce are on court of common pleas website. Since you are stating you've seen the proof then provide the link!


Give me your email address.[/quote


I found something on the county website that a bank was requesting sealed docs from their dissolution. But whatever docs there are, the real ones are sealed.
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Reply #87 posted 01/24/19 8:53pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

His passion and love was music, as he declared over and over in diverse ways. "I AM MUSIC"



nod It couldn't be any other way. Pretty clear cut looking at how things were.

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #88 posted 01/24/19 10:00pm

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He was the love of his life.

The love he had for himself was inspirational.

Special Thanks 2 Paisley Park and The DownLoad Society
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Reply #89 posted 01/24/19 10:22pm

Djohnson

Mumio said:



OldFriends4Sale said:



His passion and love was music, as he declared over and over in diverse ways. "I AM MUSIC"







nod It couldn't be any other way. Pretty clear cut looking at how things were.



Truth his first love was music 💜
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