ThatWhiteDude said:
Didn't you read Pennys comment? He did not annul the marriage. Prince and Mayte got a divorce. And you say his love life is kinda irrelevant but it was you who started this thread, claiming that Denise was the love of his life, it's just your opinion, not a known fact, only Prince could know it for sure who it really was. Yes he kept in touch with Denise, but that doesn't mean she was his soulmate, could be that they were just best friends, ever thought of that? Maybe he didn't keep in touch with Mayte because the past with her was too painful for him, and Mani? I don't know about that.....she divorced him, maybe that hurt him too.
So if his love life is so irrelevant, why do you feel the need to discuss it? You sure do need to calm down. Not good for you to get so upset over a P thread. Me saying it's irrelevant was intended to calm you down from being butt hurt. But since you are showing your claws and getting so mad, please understand not everyone thinks M1 was his soulmate. My 1st husband told me the same bs. We were together and married 13 yrs and had 3 children. He cheated on me numerous times. He told me i was the love of his life, his soulmate. He was an awesome guitar player and made songs for me. But you know What? I left him because TRUE love doesnt hurt. I went thru a medical crisis and he was there thru it, but picked up his cheating scandals after my medical issues. That's not TRUE LOVE!! True love is someone who will be there through thick and thin, not abandon you. My ex has numerous times came to me cried and apologized. Im happily remarried now and would NEVER take him back. My husband now sticks by me through the good, bad, and ugly. That's a soulmate! Sorry you don't understand the true meaning. When someone sends you away, leaves you to grieve your lost child alone and then burns everything in remembrance that's not grief, that's starting over and closing a chapter of one's life they no longer want. Plain and simple. He moved on with Mani and looked very happy in their wedding photos and all the other photos I've seen. He made a new life with her and never once tried to apologize for treating Mayte they way he did. What everyone needs to do is encourage M1 to move on and find the happiness she deserves and has never obviously known. She's not getting younger and deserves the love of a man who cherishes her and won't be mentally abusive. Im sure she experienced mental abuse with Tommy Lee as well. But was angry when he broke it off. Shame she must not know how true men that live you treat you. I wish that for her, and so should everyone else who cares for her. Instead of preaching to her the way P treated her was so romantic and beautiful. It may have been for a moment, but it didn't last long after they married. It's a shame y'all support mental abuse towards women. Denise never allowed him to do that to her, that's why he was still intrigued and loved her like he said at his concert after her death. He always loved Denise. And she admitted he was the love of her life. Now they RIP together. | |
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purplemist7777 said: TheTruth123 said: In the LA Program there were pictures of three women: Mayte, Manuela and Andy. Of course the program was decided upon by M1 & M2 (meaning M2, lol...) This program is online. There is NO pic of AA in the program. There is a short quote from her. There are multiple pics of P with Mayte and MAnuela and some with band members (AA not pictured) In M1's own words after her second miscarriage with P. Does this sound like they way you'd treat your soulmate? Actions speak louder than words. Bet he wouldn't have left Denise in this situation. I love Prince, but he messed with so many women's heads. Here's M1's words after 2nd miscarriage. 'I went into the bathroom and found blood seeping out of me. It felt like a long walk to the telephone,' writes Garcia. She called up her husband to let him know what was happening before she left to go have the check-up that had already been scheduled for the day. He said nothing, voiced no concern and did not even volunteer to accompany his wife. Once she got to the doctors and had her ultrasound the bad news was confirmed, there was no heartbeat. Then, the 24-year-old had to tell her husband, 39, that their child was gone. A soulmate would be there for his wife going through such trauma, not abandon her. I think she makes up in her head that it was his way of dealing with the grief, so she can somehow make peace with the way he treated her. Bottom line if he cared so much, he would have apologized, and talked to her all those yes before his death, but he didn't. He left her cold and YES ANNULED the marriage, no divorce. | |
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I think just about everyone knows that Prince was not successful in annulling his marriage to M1. The point is that he TRIED to erase their union, as though it never even happened. That is an undeniable fact. [Edited 1/24/19 15:03pm] | |
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While I've also heard the rumor that Prince banned M1 from PP, who knows if he actually did so formally. Since he is gone, however, it is no longer up to him. It's kinda like his acohol ban at Paisley, which is also no longer enforced. | |
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minnesoundlvr said:
I think everyone knows that Prince was not successful in annulling his marriage to M1. The point is that he TRIED to erase their union, as though it never even happened. That is an undeniable fact. There is still speculation as to whether he and M1 were even legally married. No paperwork regarding their marriage/divorce/anullment on file. But there is paperwork proof of his and Manuella' s divorce. P could have mind played with M1 in a fake ceremony that may not have even been legal. That would explain why he could say it was ANNULED instead of divorced because they were NEVER legally married. Who knows, but something's not right. Here's a link that shows proof of his and M2 divorce. Nothing about M1 https://www.lipstickalley...d.1036323/ | |
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I'm not mad LOL. and I never claimed that Mayte was his soulmate, honestly, I don't even care who it was, since I don't believe in soulmates or what another person he called "twinflames. All I did was to point out that he did not annul his marriage to her and that I find it contradictorary that you said his love life is irrerlevant but yet you started a thread about who was his soulmate. If you believe that this makes me look mad, well, your head canon, but not the truth.
And while we're on the subject, you should understand that not everybody on this board might believe that D or V was his soulmate, yet you try to convince everybody on this board that this was the case but complain about amesty at the same time.
Both of ya'll are stans tho and neither of you will change the others mind and the rest on this thread doesn't care about that.
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And why would he marry mani legally, but not Mayte? It's so funny that there are a lot of people who want to downplay his relationship/marriage to her. Nobody questions his love for Denise or any other woman he was involved with.....only when it comes to Mayte. Just saying.
"Oh he didn't really lover her, it was a fake marriage, he used Mayte to get Denise back." etc. etc. I just find it a little bit disrespectful tho not only towards mayte, but Prince too.
I just saw you linked lipstickalley, that trash site......it makes sense now. [Edited 1/24/19 15:06pm] | |
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ThatWhiteDude said:
And why would he marry mani legally, but not Mayte? It's so funny that there are a lot of people who want to downplay his relationship/marriage to her. Nobody questions his love for Denise or any other woman he was involved with.....only when it comes to Mayte. Just saying.
"Oh he didn't really lover her, it was a fake marriage, he used Mayte to get Denise back." etc. etc. I just find it a little bit disrespectful tho not only towards mayte, but Prince too.
I just saw you linked lipstickalley, that trash site.....it makes sense now. [Edited 1/24/19 15:06pm] My comments are not to dis Mayte, but a dis at P for the mind games he played with her. I think Mayte's a beautiful soul that was young, naive to Prince's charm. I believe and stated all along she deserves better and deserves to find true love. Anyone who truly cares about her should encourage her to let go of the past she seems to cling to. It's the healthiest thing she could do for herself. Im an advocate for women empowerment. I hate seeing women blinded to men casinova mind games to get what they want at that point and time. As I've said I believe he loved and respected Vanity because she broke it off with him and wouldn't take his bs like so many others did. That's what set her a part. And someone said she was doing drugs when she was with P. I've read her drug abuse started when she was with Niki Sixx. Which is believable. Prince own words at his concert: 'Someone dear to us has passed away, I’m gonna dedicate this song to her.' He also changed the lyrics to The Ladder to describe his relationship with Vanity and, for an encore, replaced the final words of The Beautiful Ones, 'my knees', with 'Denise'. Later, the Purple Rain star was remarkably candid about his memories of Denise, saying: 'Her and I used to love each other deeply.' He continued: 'She loved me for the artist I was, I loved her for the artist she was trying to be.' In her 1997 book, Blame It On Vanity, Denise claimed that Prince was the only man she ever truly loved, Jet Magazine reported. Prince paid tribute to his former protégé just one day after her death while performing in Melbourne, Australia, as part of his Piano & a Microphone world tour, dedicated “Little Red Corvette” to Vanity. “I’m trying to stay focused, it’s a little heavy for me tonight. Just keep jamming,” he told the audience, per News Corp Australia Network. He referenced her frequently throughout the night, with the deeply private star getting uncharacteristically personal. “Can I tell you a story about Vanity? Or should I tell you a story about Denise? Her and I used to love each other deeply,” Prince reportedly told the crowd. “She loved me for the artist I was, I loved her for the artist she was trying to be. “She and I would fight,” he continued. “She was very headstrong ’cause she knew she was the finest woman in the world. She never missed an opportunity to tell you that.” Denise's own words: “I never thought, ‘Oh God, I’m in Prince’s shadow,’ ” she told PEOPLE. “He’d been performing for years and he was my teacher. I miss his humor. I always felt we’d be like Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor over the years. I can honestly say I love the kid.” Prince and Vanity were in love before the height of his career. Later on, I know many women dated P for his stardom and to become famous themselves riding on P's coatales. Denise (Vanity) never did that. She was with him before he was enormously famous. She truly loved him for him and he loved her for her. It was a genuine love affair. Nowadays since Prince's death I see so many women trying to now be very relevant in Prince's life in order to make money off him after he's passed. M1 said she'd talked to P about building a school in his name. That was proven untrue. And She still posts about him on IG from time to time. Apollonia makes it now sound as if they had a love affair, after many years of denying it, and that they still remained great friends and in touch. Carmen Electra shared her hand written post to claim the song "The Most Beautiful Girl In The World" was written about her. Mayte made her book which she makes money from and now constantly wraps Prince into her social media accts. Prince threatened to sue her about writing a book, so she waited until after his death. Sheila E has become more relevant to Prince by her own posts since his death. My opinion this is what his song thieves in the temple referred to. C'mon we all know they played a part in his life, why wait until after his death to now act like you were such a relevant part of his life? None of them were with him the night he passed. Most hadn't spoke, or heard from him in yrs. It's ok to reminece, but I think we all know P would not approve of them seeking money, or fame off his death. And still he passed 2 months after Denise 💜💜💜 https://www.google.com/am...death/amp/ https://www.google.com/ur...8028071297 | |
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TheTruth123 said: amethyst68 said: “Walk In Sand” was written before he knew Misty Copeland. He was never involved in a romantic relationship with Misty Copeland. The lyrics to the song ate also the mural Prince and Mayte had painted on the headboard of their bed in Spain. It is a painting of the couple walking hand in hand in the desert toward the pyramids in Egypt. The song’s lyrics mention dancing with Royalty. Prince and Mayte not only performed for royalty in Monaco but they also partied with Prince Charles. Sea of Everything - the very first line he sings about seeing her photos in magazines. I can pull up a boat load of magazine shoots and professional pics Mayte Garcia did after her divorce from Prince. Some of them were done by his very own personal photographer. The Dance — who would think a song about dancing was about his second wife? The song was written about Mayte Garcia. I’m surprised you couldn’t figure out TicTacToe was about Mayte. The dolphins at the end of the song should give it away. But even if you’re not up on Prince and Mayte’s connection to dolphins there are the lyrics of the song. Even Mayte Garcia knew the song was about her because she quotes it in her book. Not only the dolphins but he sings about a “balletina”. The Dance: sometimes things aren’t literal. Just presenting a few other views here. There were a number of women who were inspirations to Prince and each connection was somewhat different while many things were the same. Walk in sand was made @ Paisley Park in 2009 per the Prince Vault. He was married to Manuella at the time. Makes sense this song would be about her with the lyrics and the fact she was involved with Love 4 One Anothher and in the sand in foreign land like she still posts pics today. The music video wasn't done by Prince. Here is the info on it. Why do so many people not give Manuella credit for her marriage to Prince? You could see on his face he was at one time smitten with her. And he married her not because she was pregnant. He married the Denise look alike because he wanted to. This song was definetly about Manuella. He wrote songs for whoever was in his life at the time. They were the inspiration during their chapter in his life. Same way Mayte was during her chapter. But hers was overlapped with Carmen Electra and Manuella was in the picture before the end of his relationship with M1. So only Prince knows who inspired the overlapping songs. Walk In Sand is the seventh track from Prince's 35th album 20TEN. Soon after its release, the Portuguese beer company Super Bockstreamed a video of the song to promote their product in conjunction with Prince's appearance at the Palco Super Bock music festival. The video was removed, however, following a copyright claim by NPG Records, and it appears it was not sanctioned, so the video is not listed below or in the music videossection. A tape photographed in Prince's vault at Paisley Park Studios lists it as 1 August 2009alluding the exact date for the recording at Paisley Park Studios in Chanhassen, Minnesota. Unlike the rest of the album, the song features live drums, played by Princehimself, rather than programmed drums. | |
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The certificate of marriage has even been posted on the Org. Kirk Johnson and M1's sister even signed as witnesses. The invites have even been posted here as have the news articles.
With M2, he had her papers, passport, and tore a house down.
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40TV Septimo Spain & going back 2 the Garden 1999... | |
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minnesoundlvr said:
I think just about everyone knows that Prince was not successful in annulling his marriage to M1. The point is that he TRIED to erase their union, as though it never even happened. That is an undeniable fact. [Edited 1/24/19 15:03pm] Prince wasn’t that ignorant. He knew he couldn’t annul a marriage after having a child. If you listen to the press conference when he announced it, you’d know his intention was to remarry on their anniversary and have a baptism for he and Mayte. To me, it sounded for more like he was trying to force her into joining the Jehovah’s Witness faith. If you read his chats on princeonlinemuseum, he was adamant they were meant to be together forever no matter what. I can’t explain what was going on with him but he wasn’t thinking clearly. Nothing he was doing around that last year of his marriage were the actions of a sane man. You can’t erase a wife or a son. Rather than saying Prince had lost his damn mind, you’d rather trash his grieving wife. | |
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Djohnson said: minnesoundlvr said:
I think everyone knows that Prince was not successful in annulling his marriage to M1. The point is that he TRIED to erase their union, as though it never even happened. That is an undeniable fact. There is still speculation as to whether he and M1 were even legally married. No paperwork regarding their marriage/divorce/anullment on file. But there is paperwork proof of his and Manuella' s divorce. P could have mind played with M1 in a fake ceremony that may not have even been legal. That would explain why he could say it was ANNULED instead of divorced because they were NEVER legally married. Who knows, but something's not right. Here's a link that shows proof of his and M2 divorce. Nothing about M1 https://www.lipstickalley...d.1036323/ Read the lawyers notes on the Minnesota court record website. They talk about obtaining and reviewing their marriage license and divorce decree for whatever Prince left her. Stay away from tabloid gossip. The only “not right” is your common sense. | |
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Did her brother-in-law offer proof? Is he writing a book? | |
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OldFriends4Sale said:
Susannah, Sheila E as well I agree with this. Same with me. I have boyfried exes I still have love in my heart and stay in contact with them so they know I care even though were not together as a couple anymore. Those are true loves of one's life. Then there are others like my ex husband i have children with. I wish for him to find love and be happy. But I have no desire to stay in contact with him, or know what he's doing, or who he's with. That chapter was closed after our divorce. I wish for him to be happy, but there is no eternal love there or her than he's my kids father. He's not my best friend, lover, and I'm happily remarried and moved on. I think you're correct there were some that remained special in Prince's heart and even if they weren't together, he still had love for them...Denise, Sheila E and not sure who else? Apollonia claims she still saw him from time to time, but not sure if they really stayed in contact. Those are the true loves of one's life. Because true love never dies. | |
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Yes,Prince cheated on all of his women but there is no comparison with his relationship with Vanity and the relationship with Mayte Garcia. Longtime fans know this. His associates know this. He never proclaimed his love publicly for any other woman he was with except his first wife. She brought out another side of Prince that fans had never seen before. He’s said so himself that she changed him as a man. I loved Vanity growing up but fans should stop romanticizing who she was. Beautiful woman but her life was a train wreck when she was with Prince and at least a decade after. How don’t see how she would ever have been good for Prince. | |
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I think Sheila said she hadn't talked to him since their musical split in 2011. I think she told that to the PD in the investigative files. When I have time, I'll try to go thru those files, but Sheila herself said this. He wouldn't talk to Susannah either, she had to go thru his staff but he did loan her money. | |
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She's in a stage shot with Prince. Next to a picture of Prince and the Prince. What? | |
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She left her brother in law quite a lot of things, he used to be on this forum, you can try to look him up under the name Toban. Shoot him a message and if he's still around he may answer you back. | |
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But I mean he remained friends with them as well.
I believe Sheila talked to him after their falling out, when she fly to Minneapolis.
But again, through the 90s and 2000s he continued friendship with Vanity Sheila E and Susannah
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Yes he continued friendship wth Vanity Sheila E and Susannah Melvoin though his life. He talked to her about doing some music together in 2014/15.
I feel a lot of pre 87 people he had a true love for.
Morris Day told the story of when he was at Paisley Park in 2015 I believe and after his performance, Prince said "you still got it, I love you Morris' and Day broke down crying.
I believe most of the people from pre 1987 he knew them differently than those that came after.
From my understanding he kept in touch with Susan Moonsie too, who he acknowledged at a few 3121 shows.
I believe he and Apollonia stayed connected. But they weren't lovers though. PR probably bonded them.
I wish the wisdom of mortality sunk in to Prince 10yrs prior to his death.
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amethyst68 said: Djohnson said: There is still speculation as to whether he and M1 were even legally married. No paperwork regarding their marriage/divorce/anullment on file. But there is paperwork proof of his and Manuella' s divorce. P could have mind played with M1 in a fake ceremony that may not have even been legal. That would explain why he could say it was ANNULED instead of divorced because they were NEVER legally married. Who knows, but something's not right. Here's a link that shows proof of his and M2 divorce. Nothing about M1 https://www.lipstickalley...d.1036323/ Read the lawyers notes on the Minnesota court record website. They talk about obtaining and reviewing their marriage license and divorce decree for whatever Prince left her. Stay away from tabloid gossip. The only “not right” is your common sense. And where is the link to these court docs you are referring to "smart one". Lol Can you provide the proof, or not? Court docs are public records usually marriage & divorce are on court of common pleas website. Since you are stating you've seen the proof then provide the link! | |
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Thanks. I'll check him out when time permits. | |
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OldFriends4Sale said:
Yes he continued friendship wth Vanity Sheila E and Susannah Melvoin though his life. He talked to Susannah about doing some music together in 2014/15.
I feel a lot of pre 87 people he had a true love for.
Morris Day told the story of when he was at Paisley Park in 2015 I believe and after his performance, Prince said "you still got it, I love you Morris' and Day broke down crying.
I believe most of the people from pre 1987 he knew them differently than those that came after.
From my understanding he kept in touch with Susan Moonsie too, who he acknowledged at a few 3121 shows.
I believe he and Apollonia stayed connected. But they weren't lovers though. PR probably bonded them.
I wish the wisdom of mortality sunk in to Prince 10yrs prior to his death.
That makes sense. Pre 1987 people weren't riding his coattails for fame and fortune like so many used him later in life. I saw Morris Day and The Time 2 yrs ago. I was in the standing 3rd row. A nice guy who looked like he might of been part of Morris Days security (Dressed to the 9's) grabbed my hand and pulled me in front. I'll never forget Morris's face talking about Prince and their friendship. He dedicated a song to him and praised him several times. You could definetly feel the connection of true friendship from the sadness that came over him while honoring him. I think many of his younger fans get upset when you mention his ties and 80's connections because they weren't born yet, or were too young to remember. But it says a lot those are the people he stayed in connection with during his lifetime. There are those who come and go, and those true friends and loves who stick around a lifetime. His connections with them were probably stronger because they were all just starting out. They had no reason to use eachother. | |
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Djohnson said: amethyst68 said: Read the lawyers notes on the Minnesota court record website. They talk about obtaining and reviewing their marriage license and divorce decree for whatever Prince left her. Stay away from tabloid gossip. The only “not right” is your common sense. And where is the link to these court docs you are referring to "smart one". Lol Can you provide the proof, or not? Court docs are public records usually marriage & divorce are on court of common pleas website. Since you are stating you've seen the proof then provide the link! Give me your email address. | |
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amethyst68 said:[quote] Djohnson said: And where is the link to these court docs you are referring to "smart one". Lol Can you provide the proof, or not? Court docs are public records usually marriage & divorce are on court of common pleas website. Since you are stating you've seen the proof then provide the link! Give me your email address.[/quote I found something on the county website that a bank was requesting sealed docs from their dissolution. But whatever docs there are, the real ones are sealed. | |
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Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end | |
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He was the love of his life. The love he had for himself was inspirational. Special Thanks 2 Paisley Park and The DownLoad Society | |
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Truth his first love was music 💜 | |
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