Benni (or anyone) participating in an unlocked thread -- especially one started by a moderator with the title "All These Women Threads," and that specifically says "Yall get this out of your system" -- doesn't really fit any definition of "meddling."

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I know you've been very senitive to the idea that you're on the receiving end of bullying and attempts at "censorship." Maybe just pause for a second and think about that...

FlyOnTheWall said:

And, by the way, a synonym for "busybody" is "meddler," which is exactly what you are doing here: MEDDLING.

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FlyOnTheWall said:

benni said:

Yes pink, but the thread title itself states it is about the album that was used for the tribute video. And many of the photos are on stage or in public appearances, not their private lives.

The whole point I was trying to make to Fly, was that she stated if someone doesn't like a thread or person, scroll past them. I like the "Oui Can Love" album, thought the tribute video was pretty nice, expected that is what the thread would be about, but instead it's pages of his relationship with Andy, what he or she was wearing (each other's clothes), their appearances together at this and that function, and why oh why did they end so soon....and really was not about the Oui Can Love album or about the tribute video.

That is why it makes it difficult for people to scroll past threads that would otherwise hold no interest for them. The thread title says it's about this, but the posts says it's about that. (If you noticed, I didn't post in that thread.) I have no desire to discuss his relationship with Andy or any of his other women. I started to read it and then saw it twist and turn as all threads relating to Andy do.

Where does it say that? The thread title says that the Oui Can Luv album was used to make a video called, "2 People in Luv, with nothing but the road ahead." In other words, the thread is about the video that was set to the music of the album. In it's broadest sense, the thread is about the album, the video, and "2 people in luv." What's wrong with that? Can't you see how offensive you are being right now?

Again, the thread title Fly.

""Oui Can Luv" Album Used For Tribute Video :::::: " 2 people in love, with nothing but the road ahead... ""

If you truly read that (and admittedly, the last half of it, I do not read as a subtitle because it is a lyric in a Prince song and I did not apply that to the subject matter of the thread). It states, "Oui Can Love" Album used for tribute video. In other words, the way the title is written is like, "Hey the Oui Can Love Album was used in a tribute vidoe!" It's about the album being used in a tribute video. Not about their relationship. Not about what they wore. Not about everything else under the sun related to Prince and Andy, but about the album being used in a tribute video.

benni said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Where does it say that? The thread title says that the Oui Can Luv album was used to make a video called, "2 People in Luv, with nothing but the road ahead." In other words, the thread is about the video that was set to the music of the album. In it's broadest sense, the thread is about the album, the video, and "2 people in luv." What's wrong with that? Can't you see how offensive you are being right now?

Again, the thread title Fly.

""Oui Can Luv" Album Used For Tribute Video :::::: " 2 people in love, with nothing but the road ahead... ""

If you truly read that (and admittedly, the last half of it, I do not read as a subtitle because it is a lyric in a Prince song and I did not apply that to the subject matter of the thread). It states, "Oui Can Love" Album used for tribute video. In other words, the way the title is written is like, "Hey the Oui Can Love Album was used in a tribute vidoe!" It's about the album being used in a tribute video. Not about their relationship. Not about what they wore. Not about everything else under the sun related to Prince and Andy, but about the album being used in a tribute video.

But...how did the thread I started come to be about you, benni, and how you misread the title???

Fly, I only picked that thread because it was the most obvious on the front page. The way the thread title reads vs the subject matter, shows how it is not always black and white on what threads to scroll past.

I like Andy. I like her voice. I was following her on FB for awhile and even listened to some of her Monday Music video livestreams. But you know, a musician becomes a musician because they have passion for their art. They seek fame because they want to be known for the art they create, not who they were dating. I'd rather give her music the spot light it deserves, and not a relationship that ended several years ago, especially one that has no chance to ever be resurrected. That part of her life is over. I'm sure she cherishes the memories she has of Prince, but don't keep her in a Prince box. She's an artist of her own, and her life will now forever veer away from Prince, because there is no Prince to keep her tied to him. So why is it so important for her fans to keep her tied to someone that is (and can never be) a part of her life any longer? They made great music together, and looked good together (just as he looked good with Denise, with Mayte, with Mani, with Sheila, with...) ... but their paths are no longer converging. They have a place in Prince history, but they also deserve to create their own history and forge their own path now.

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FlyOnTheWall said:

benni said:

Again, the thread title Fly.

""Oui Can Luv" Album Used For Tribute Video :::::: " 2 people in love, with nothing but the road ahead... ""

If you truly read that (and admittedly, the last half of it, I do not read as a subtitle because it is a lyric in a Prince song and I did not apply that to the subject matter of the thread). It states, "Oui Can Love" Album used for tribute video. In other words, the way the title is written is like, "Hey the Oui Can Love Album was used in a tribute vidoe!" It's about the album being used in a tribute video. Not about their relationship. Not about what they wore. Not about everything else under the sun related to Prince and Andy, but about the album being used in a tribute video.

But...how did the thread I started come to be about you, benni, and how you misread the title???

LOL!!!!

"The "ignore button" is mental. That is, if there are multiple threads about something/someone about which you have no interest, all you have to do is scroll past them. Why should things be changed because certain people are apparently unwilling to ignore threads that don't interest them?"

Thread titles are important if you truly want people to scroll past. It has nothing to do with me.

benni said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Where does it say that? The thread title says that the Oui Can Luv album was used to make a video called, "2 People in Luv, with nothing but the road ahead." In other words, the thread is about the video that was set to the music of the album. In it's broadest sense, the thread is about the album, the video, and "2 people in luv." What's wrong with that? Can't you see how offensive you are being right now?

Again, the thread title Fly.

""Oui Can Luv" Album Used For Tribute Video :::::: " 2 people in love, with nothing but the road ahead... ""

If you truly read that (and admittedly, the last half of it, I do not read as a subtitle because it is a lyric in a Prince song and I did not apply that to the subject matter of the thread). It states, "Oui Can Love" Album used for tribute video. In other words, the way the title is written is like, "Hey the Oui Can Love Album was used in a tribute vidoe!" It's about the album being used in a tribute video. Not about their relationship. Not about what they wore. Not about everything else under the sun related to Prince and Andy, but about the album being used in a tribute video.

Talk was bound to lead to discussion of the relationship after watching the video. Some us said that we enjoyed seeing photos from back then and that he appeared to be happy which some associated with Andy.

cloveringold85 said:

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I agree. I know I'm , but gosh darn it, I have a right to do that once in awhile.

benni said:

Fly, I only picked that thread because it was the most obvious on the front page. The way the thread title reads vs the subject matter, shows how it is not always black and white on what threads to scroll past.

I like Andy. I like her voice. I was following her on FB for awhile and even listened to some of her Monday Music video livestreams. But you know, a musician becomes a musician because they have passion for their art. They seek fame because they want to be known for the art they create, not who they were dating. I'd rather give her music the spot light it deserves, and not a relationship that ended several years ago, especially one that has no chance to ever be resurrected. That part of her life is over. I'm sure she cherishes the memories she has of Prince, but don't keep her in a Prince box. She's an artist of her own, and her life will now forever veer away from Prince, because there is no Prince to keep her tied to him. So why is it so important for her fans to keep her tied to someone that is (and can never be) a part of her life any longer? They made great music together, and looked good together (just as he looked good with Denise, with Mayte, with Mani, with Sheila, with...) ... but their paths are no longer converging. They have a place in Prince history, but they also deserve to create their own history and forge their own path now.

People have a right to discuss Prince history, including his relationships, to our heart's content. And, Miss Andy is definitely forging her own path. In fact, I'm going to sign off soon so that I can tune in for her latest StageIt concert. It starts in 20 minutes.

disch said:

Benni (or anyone) participating in an unlocked thread -- especially one started by a moderator with the title "All These Women Threads," and that specifically says "Yall get this out of your system" -- doesn't really fit any definition of "meddling."

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I know you've been very senitive to the idea that you're on the receiving end of bullying and attempts at "censorship." Maybe just pause for a second and think about that...

FlyOnTheWall said:

And, by the way, a synonym for "busybody" is "meddler," which is exactly what you are doing here: MEDDLING.

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You sound more like a moderator with each of your posts, disch.

Anybody notice that 'All these Women threads' Title, is nothing but AA? Someone is having a melt down because they think that all their AA threads are going to be taken away and reduced to 1.

Well, moderators by defintion practice moderation, and moderation in all things in life (including fandoms!) is a good thing, so I'll take that as a complement!

FlyOnTheWall said:

disch said:

Benni (or anyone) participating in an unlocked thread -- especially one started by a moderator with the title "All These Women Threads," and that specifically says "Yall get this out of your system" -- doesn't really fit any definition of "meddling."

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I know you've been very senitive to the idea that you're on the receiving end of bullying and attempts at "censorship." Maybe just pause for a second and think about that...

You sound more like a moderator with each of your posts, disch.

benni said:

Fly, I only picked that thread because it was the most obvious on the front page. The way the thread title reads vs the subject matter, shows how it is not always black and white on what threads to scroll past.

I like Andy. I like her voice. I was following her on FB for awhile and even listened to some of her Monday Music video livestreams. But you know, a musician becomes a musician because they have passion for their art. They seek fame because they want to be known for the art they create, not who they were dating. I'd rather give her music the spot light it deserves, and not a relationship that ended several years ago, especially one that has no chance to ever be resurrected. That part of her life is over. I'm sure she cherishes the memories she has of Prince, but don't keep her in a Prince box. She's an artist of her own, and her life will now forever veer away from Prince, because there is no Prince to keep her tied to him. So why is it so important for her fans to keep her tied to someone that is (and can never be) a part of her life any longer? They made great music together, and looked good together (just as he looked good with Denise, with Mayte, with Mani, with Sheila, with...) ... but their paths are no longer converging. They have a place in Prince history, but they also deserve to create their own history and forge their own path now.

True. Though Andy's MMs usually brought the focus on Prince or their relationship because some of the songs she performed were written for him or with him.Also Andy will always be connected with Prince through the music they created together that is showcased on his final albums.

PennyPurple said:

Anybody notice that 'All these Women threads' Title, is nothing but AA? Someone is having a melt down because they think that all their AA threads are going to be taken away and reduced to 1.

I'M melting down?? I'm simply fending off all the missiles being thrown my way.

And, btw, I have absolutely no problem with a single thread at a time. That was working just fine...until the moderators starting locking up and erasing every single Andy thread that I started.

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PennyPurple said:

Anybody notice that 'All these Women threads' Title, is nothing but AA? Someone is having a melt down because they think that all their AA threads are going to be taken away and reduced to 1.

I was also enjoying the Mayte thread and was hoping for a continuation of it. Also have been enjoying the threads about Natalya and Judith as well.

PennyPurple said:

Anybody notice that 'All these Women threads' Title, is nothing but AA? Someone is having a melt down because they think that all their AA threads are going to be taken away and reduced to 1.

meltdown . bored with her life and the hijack freeway.

benni said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I agree. I know I'm , but gosh darn it, I have a right to do that once in awhile.

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pinkcashmere23 said:

benni said:

Fly, I only picked that thread because it was the most obvious on the front page. The way the thread title reads vs the subject matter, shows how it is not always black and white on what threads to scroll past.

I like Andy. I like her voice. I was following her on FB for awhile and even listened to some of her Monday Music video livestreams. But you know, a musician becomes a musician because they have passion for their art. They seek fame because they want to be known for the art they create, not who they were dating. I'd rather give her music the spot light it deserves, and not a relationship that ended several years ago, especially one that has no chance to ever be resurrected. That part of her life is over. I'm sure she cherishes the memories she has of Prince, but don't keep her in a Prince box. She's an artist of her own, and her life will now forever veer away from Prince, because there is no Prince to keep her tied to him. So why is it so important for her fans to keep her tied to someone that is (and can never be) a part of her life any longer? They made great music together, and looked good together (just as he looked good with Denise, with Mayte, with Mani, with Sheila, with...) ... but their paths are no longer converging. They have a place in Prince history, but they also deserve to create their own history and forge their own path now.

True. Though Andy's MMs usually brought the focus on Prince or their relationship because some of the songs she performed were written for him or with him.Also Andy will always be connected with Prince through the music they created together that is showcased on his final albums.

I honestly hope not, pink. I hope that Andy has such an incredible career, that her music will be entirely her own, that her time with Prince will be one of those "little known facts" you see posted about artists. The reason I hope this, is because no artist wants their art always tied to someone who was more iconic than them. Andy deserves her own career, her own fame, outside of Prince's influence. She needs to be known for herself, not connected to Prince because of a few songs they did together.

benni said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

True. Though Andy's MMs usually brought the focus on Prince or their relationship because some of the songs she performed were written for him or with him.Also Andy will always be connected with Prince through the music they created together that is showcased on his final albums.

I honestly hope not, pink. I hope that Andy has such an incredible career, that her music will be entirely her own, that her time with Prince will be one of those "little known facts" you see posted about artists. The reason I hope this, is because no artist wants their art always tied to someone who was more iconic than them. Andy deserves her own career, her own fame, outside of Prince's influence. She needs to be known for herself, not connected to Prince because of a few songs they did together.

Andy has her own career...but, to the chagrin of some, she will always be associated with Prince. She is part of music/entertainment history. In what world is that a bad thing?

FlyOnTheWall said:

benni said:

I honestly hope not, pink. I hope that Andy has such an incredible career, that her music will be entirely her own, that her time with Prince will be one of those "little known facts" you see posted about artists. The reason I hope this, is because no artist wants their art always tied to someone who was more iconic than them. Andy deserves her own career, her own fame, outside of Prince's influence. She needs to be known for herself, not connected to Prince because of a few songs they did together.

Andy has her own career...but, to the chagrin of some, she will always be associated with Prince. She is part of music/entertainment history. In what world is that a bad thing?

It's not to anyone's chagrin, Fly. Yes, she will always be a part of Prince's history. <---- Prince's history, not music/entertainment history, because she's not done anything yet to earn that place, but she is in PRINCE'S history. She hasn't gone platinum with her own music, hasn't gone gold, isn't placed in the charts. She is known right now, almost strictly by her association with Prince. I just hope she is successful enough that she creates her own history, in the entertainment and music history. You ask anyone outside of the Prince world who Andy Allo is, and the majority of people will have no idea who you are talking about. But hopefully, one day, if she continues to reach for her dream, she will be.

benni said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Andy has her own career...but, to the chagrin of some, she will always be associated with Prince. She is part of music/entertainment history. In what world is that a bad thing?

It's not to anyone's chagrin, Fly. Yes, she will always be a part of Prince's history. <---- Prince's history, not music/entertainment history, because she's not done anything yet to earn that place, but she is in PRINCE'S history. She hasn't gone platinum with her own music, hasn't gone gold, isn't placed in the charts. She is known right now, almost strictly by her association with Prince. I just hope she is successful enough that she creates her own history, in the entertainment and music history. You ask anyone outside of the Prince world who Andy Allo is, and the majority of people will have no idea who you are talking about. But hopefully, one day, if she continues to reach for her dream, she will be.

Prince is a HUGE part of music/entertainment history. Ergo, so are his associates. BTW, more people know Andy than you might think. For instance, the Pitch Perfect franchise, of which Andy is now also a part, is a pretty big deal. And, her star continues to rise. Don't you worry, benni, Andy will be just fine...in spite of the haters on Prince.org.

benni said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

True. Though Andy's MMs usually brought the focus on Prince or their relationship because some of the songs she performed were written for him or with him.Also Andy will always be connected with Prince through the music they created together that is showcased on his final albums.

I honestly hope not, pink. I hope that Andy has such an incredible career, that her music will be entirely her own, that her time with Prince will be one of those "little known facts" you see posted about artists. The reason I hope this, is because no artist wants their art always tied to someone who was more iconic than them. Andy deserves her own career, her own fame, outside of Prince's influence. She needs to be known for herself, not connected to Prince because of a few songs they did together.

I agree but I meant that the songs that they wrote and recorded together are on his albums and she will always be a part of his legacy because of that.Something she herself acknowledged during her interview with Grammy Pro.

pinkcashmere23 said:

disch said:

Prince had lots and lots of collaborators/protégées/associates over his career, so I guess this would be true of them all. Interestingly many of his female associates get a lot of criticism here if they emphasize their association — that they aren’t “doing they’re own thing” and they’re trying to “ride princes coattails” etc. - On this site the male associates get discussed very differently, it seems. Well just far less as this section is currently dominated by discussion/arguments about his love life and the women involved with it. - pinkcashmere23 said:

I agree but I meant that the songs that they wrote and recorded together are on his albums and she will always be a part of his legacy because of that.Something she herself acknowledged during her interview with Grammy Pro.

Yes.Some of the female associates are treated differently and I think they have to prove themselves more to some of the fans and that they can stand on their own,outside of their association with Prince.

PennyPurple said:

It's no use disch, they flood the threads so much they forget what they say.

Forum flooding is exactly what it's called. I don't think people realize that flooding is already not allowed on most other forums.

cloveringold85 said:

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no no no, I'm hooked now I need her having a drink

OldFriends4Sale said:

cloveringold85 said:

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no no no, I'm hooked now I need her having a drink

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Sorry, I'm being silly!!

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I used to love Ramona's "Turtle Time"! LMAO!!

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LOL

pinkcashmere23 said:

206Michelle said:

endiadj said: Mayte was his wife, mother of his only child, and professional collaborator (muse, dancer, band member). Regardless of how one feels about her, her impact on his music and personal life was very significant.

Did Mayte's Appreciation thread get locked or did it expire? I didn't see the reply button.

It self-locked/expired after 60 days.

206Michelle said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Did Mayte's Appreciation thread get locked or did it expire? I didn't see the reply button.

It self-locked/expired after 60 days.

Thanks. I thought that was probably what happened.

FlyOnTheWall said:

Krystalkisses said:

Well I guess maybe you could be sleeping with someone and not be someone's gf and least not in the man's mind. So maybe it is a case of miscommunication. Also, I don't really know how opiates affect someone's libido. Is it realistic to think Prince had much interest in women and abusing painkillers?

It has not even been established that JH was sleeping with Prince. I have heard that she stayed at a hotel in Chanhassen while she was working for extended periods at Paisley Park. And, based on the police interview I read, she seemed totally flummoxed when they asked her which side of the bed P slept on. After stumbling over the question, she eventually said that he slept on the side closest to the bathroom. And, we know for sure that when Prince flew her in to attend the Atlanta PAAM show, she told the police that she flew in the night before...and she was driven to her hotel. The more I think about it, that is probably a large part of why the bodyguards and driver say that she was not intimately involved with Prince: apparently, she didn't spend nights at The Park.

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I think of Judith Hill as a protegee and companion of Prince's. From what I read of her interview with Carver County police as well as what others (Kirk, Damaris, etc.) have stated, it's unclear whether or not she and Prince were dating because she claims that they were and others claim that they were not. I don't really know what to believe about them being romantically involved, but she certainly was a protegee and companion of his.

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"Romantic relationship" and "girlfriend"/"boyfriend" mean different things to different people. It is possible for two people to be in a romantic relationship/be boyfriend-girlfriend without having a sexual relationship. For example, some couples choose to abstan from sex until marriage due to religious beliefs.