Susu1976 said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

That's interesting that his associates had such contempt for her yet nearly all of them, with the exception of Judith and a few other newer associates all follow her on social media.The ones who have commented to her are always so loving and kind toward her,I find it very hard to believe that she wasn't well liked.During Andy's first FB Live May 2016,Hannah Welton told her that she loved her.That summer,Shelby J told her on IG that she was in L.A. and to "get at me so I can hug you up."Everyone at the Apollo induction also treated her with love and respect.It was very touching the way that Maceo Parker embraced her and held her for a while.He treated her like a daughter.Justine Walpole,who took the beautiful black and white photo of them commented that she loved the photo and that their happiness was so true that day, that it made her happy to look at it but it made her sad also because of his passing.What you are implying just doesn't seem to be reality.They were never a couple? Judith Hill said that Andy was his last girlfriend in her police interview and that Bria was before her.Prince didn't call her a hustler in his interview with Dr Funk.He said:"Andy Allo put out Superconductor on her own.She hustled.From doing a show on the G4 network to everything she does.Superconductor is great.We might have to contact Kobalt music,add a few songs I duet on and release it as Superconductor Reloaded." Dr Funk said that a smile came across his face while talking about it.In the interview he came across as being proud of her and like he had admiration for her,certainly not as if he thought of her as "stupid" or someone he considered a "user.During their time in Montréal,he did write down the word Endogamy(marrying within the limits of ones own local community,clan tribe,or religion) for some reason.I presume he was studying the topic."

At which point did I say Prince flat out call Andy a hustler in public? (Btw, he did). Were you at PP to hear what was thought of Andy's behavior? At which point did Prince rule out/in marriage? Nothing to do with your "client". He wasn't going to marry anyone, including Andy. He studied it and it's meaning for entirely different reasons throughout his life,even after two failed attempts You actually think he was going to marry a moron in her early 20's who is a closeted bisexual arriviste? It was not going to happen. He wasn't going to marry Tamron Hall for crying out loud (which he should have, btw). Do you actually think people are going to throw stones at her at public event(s) irrespective of what is known of her n the inner circles? Were there outrage about all of the assholes in Hollywood when they received something she everyone knew them true stories? Of course not. This is MARKETING. Yes, she was considered a user and stupid at PP. Ask Kiran. She sure had an axe to grind. Or anyone else. Social media following tells you nothing. As a matter of fact Ida et al had very little contact with her unless she wanted exposure, then she would be in contact with the FRIENDS. FACT. Then they became relevant to her again. Dr. Funk is a FAN who thinks he has insight. At the end of the day he knows nothing of the inner workings. Prince told him NOTHING. EVER. He knew nothing of his private life. The idiot barely knows anything that is open to the public. Why shouldn't Prince be proud of Andy getting where she wanted to go?!? That's what he wanted for everyone. Of course he would be tremendously proud of her and her getting where she is wanting to be. That and undying romance are two different things. I hope someday you learn the difference. Until then, I don't give a fuck about your insults, especially Fly's, you're infantile to the max. You cannot offer anything of substance so you resort to bullying, then resort to complain of people bullying you. You are not worth of my time and your opinions and assumptions are just that. I'm glad I can go to sleep at night not having to worry about what story to come up with tomorrow. You work so hard at this yet you get nowhere. That should tell you something. Keep going if this is what makes your life worth living.It's beyond sad but hey *shrug* P.S. You might want to stop reffering my being same as angellooksdown before I report your ass.

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I was not the one who referred to you as angel first of all.Second,I've only see Ida respond kindly to Andy and she attended some of her shows,including the one in Denmark.Most of Prince's associates past and present follow Andy on twitter and I can't imagine why they would want to follow someone they do not like.Kiran also said that Andy was at the show in NYC when Prince kicked Kim K off the stage February 2011 so she seems to not be a completely reliable source.Again,Andy may be bisexual but she's only dated men publicly:David,Prince,Lamorne and her last boyfriend ZP.Quite a few people believe Andy to be Prince's last love from comments I've seen online.

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pinkcashmere23 said:

Susu1976 said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

I was not the one who referred to you as angel first of all.Second,I've only see Ida respond kindly to Andy and she attended some of her shows,including the one in Denmark.Most of Prince's associates past and present follow Andy on twitter and I can't imagine why they would want to follow someone they do not like.Kiran also said that Andy was at the show in NYC when Prince kicked Kim K off the stage February 2011 so she seems to not be a completely reliable source.Again,Andy may be bisexual but she's only dated men publicly:David,Prince,Lamorne and her last boyfriend ZP.

Who said Ida has ever said said anything bad about Andy? I just demonstrated to you that it was ANDY who would be interested in Ida and others when it severed her purpose. Not other way around. So, stop twisting my works. You can list an name after name and I can guarantee you don't k ow one of them, you have never met one of them so this is excercise in futility. I have no interest in your stupidity. You and Fly work in unison so I don't care which goes down first if you don't stop innuendos.

Actually,Andy doesn't have a lot to do with any of his associates with the exception of Misty,Ana,Hannah,Shelby and Adrian and hasn't in years.The only ones she follows are Misty,Shelby,Cassandra,Marcus Anderson,Andrew Gouche and Maceo. However,most of Prince's associates follow Andy including Wendy and Lisa and Susannah which I found surprising.I also noticed that Mayte and Mani included a quote from Andy about Prince in the LA Memorial book.The associates who have commented to her,seem to love her very much.Again,I was not the one who called you angel.

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pinkcashmere23 said:

sharpieheartz said:

“A moron in her 20’s”. Well! [Edited 5/2/18 21:11pm]

Considering that she had her own company in her early 20's and released Superconductor on her own,Andy was far from stupid.

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pinkcashmere23 said:

sharpieheartz said:

“A moron in her 20’s”. :hah:

Well!
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Um...Best proof...Regardless of whatever anyone thinks or feels about AA, P's possible feelings for her extending to considering marrying her or not...

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There is a specifically dedicated room in P's PP which holds a picture of AA...

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It'd be pretty hard to deny that she held a particular place in P's heart...and his still being honoured by him post-4/21...

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JH may have had romantic feelings towards P...Heck, she implied that she was his girlfriend immediately after 4/21, and exagerrated her role during the plane landing incident in Moline...But if she had the role in P's life as his girlfriend, as she implied, in her official police interveiw which was recently released by Carver County JH AND Kirk both state that JH was in fact NOT his girlfriend...Sooooo, why did her story suddenly change?...And where's JH's specifically dedicated room in PP holding her picture?...Ya know...Cuz she implied she was his girl and all...

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Pretty compelling evidence to the contrary...Innit?...

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Susu1976 said:

sharpieheartz said:

“A moron in her 20’s”.

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You can be a moron when you're 3 or 97 yrs old. Everyone can succeed when you have successful people around you even if you are as dumb as a rock and when was this conversation about Andy not allowed to do her thing? Hey, it works for the dumbest of them sometimes. Time and a place and moreover opportunism.
DEFLECTION. She's not Mozart, nobody is asking her to be, nobody is critical of her musical pursuits. She is a good song writer.
Picking up a dictionary or rather understanding reference and...and, sorry but Dunning-Gruger - effect. You can also be a moron vis à vis Eisteinstein's famous quote on repeating things... Everything is relative,.my friend. Why do I feel every pun just goes right over every three of your heads...
Keep on...So done. Deal with someone who has more tolerance for stupidity, just never drag me into your abyss and utter lack of self-awereness. Do not resort to shit that seems to be your last as I will not tolerate it.
Carry on and hope you, at one point in your life, pick up a book and actually read it and it's not Fifty Shades of Grey as it appears as of now your intellectual endeavors are but limited to studying what ring Andy Allo was definitely NOT wearing.

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Um...Best proof...Regardless of whatever anyone thinks or feels about AA, P's possible feelings for her extending to considering marrying her or not...

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There is a specifically dedicated room in P's PP which holds a picture of AA...

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It'd be pretty hard to deny that she held a particular place in P's heart...and his still being honoured by him post-4/21...

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JH may have had romantic feelings towards P...Heck, she implied that she was his girlfriend immediately after 4/21, and exagerrated her role during the plane landing incident in Moline...But if she had the role in P's life as his girlfriend, as she implied, in her official police interveiw which was recently released by Carver County JH AND Kirk both state that JH was in fact NOT his girlfriend...Sooooo, why did her story suddenly change?...And where's JH's specifically dedicated room in PP holding her picture?...Ya know...Cuz she implied she was his girl and all...

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Pretty compelling evidence to the contrary...Innit?...

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I agree that it is obvious that Andy did hold a special place in his heart by his actions even after they no longer were working together or dating.He was not obligated to do those things,such as promoting her solo projects through 2015 but he chose to show his support for her so there must have been some fondness still there.I assume that was his purpose behind the release of the Oui Can Luv album and putting her photo up as well.From what JH said to the authorities,she did say that she and Prince had been in a romantic relationship since the fall of 2014 and when asked who his other girlfriends were,she said Andy Allo and Bria Valente.She said that everyone after that, she knew about from reading about them online or from what she had heard from other people.It is curious why Prince had AA's photo up in what is said to be his favorite room at PP and from what I have seen,most people believe that she was special to him because of it and some assume that she was his last girlfriend.

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Susu1976 said:

Susu1976 said:

You can be a moron when you're 3 or 97 yrs old. Everyone can succeed when you have successful people around you even if you are as dumb as a rock and when was this conversation about Andy not allowed to do her thing? Hey, it works for the dumbest of them sometimes. Time and a place and moreover opportunism. DEFLECTION. She's not Mozart, nobody is asking her to be, nobody is critical of her musical pursuits. She is a good song writer. Picking up a dictionary or rather understanding reference and...and, sorry but Dunning-Gruger - effect. You can also be a moron vis à vis Eisteinstein's famous quote on repeating things... Everything is relative,.my friend. Why do I feel every pun just goes right over every three of your heads... Keep on...So done. Deal with someone who has more tolerance for stupidity, just never drag me into your abyss and utter lack of self-awereness. Do not resort to shit that seems to be your last as I will not tolerate it. Carry on and hope you, at one point in your life, pick up a book and actually read it and it's not Fifty Shades of Grey as it appears as of now your intellectual endeavors are but limited to studying what ring Andy Allo was definitely NOT wearing.

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FlyOnTheWall said:

anangellooksdown said:

pinkcashmere23 said: Both serious misquotes about what Judith said were “honest mistakes”? And more importantly, you didn’t address these thoughts of mine from above: Prince had always been a “hopeless romantic”, as Mayte told us. He always saw women as very powerful. The womb...all of it. He loved brilliant women but also always kept some other ones around him too, lol...Prince had also studied religion, philosophy and other interesting subjects for years. He also always loved movies. So how does what he was reading or watching at the time, which was an expression of what he had always read and watched, equate to him planning on marrying Andy Allo? The man was always into these types of things. I’m seriously not trying to put “Andy” down, I simply see you guys getting extreme again in imagining things that fit what you want because the subject has been talked to death and you have no lives apparently and are bored, so you start stretching things again to keep the discussion going and to fit what you want to believe, as always happens on these threads. Just putting them out there again so they’re not lost... G’night!

It is no secret that Prince was a "hopeless romantic." It's not like we need Mayte to tell us this. We also know that he loved and was in awe of women, especially smart, beautiful ones. Where do you come up with these profundities, angel???

With regard to the notes he made on the Intercontinental letterhead, it is significant because it gives us insight into his thinking at the time. Sure, we know that he studied religion and philosophy, but some of us think it is significant that he was researching marriage and lineage during the same time that Andy wrote her now-famous love letter to Prince...and he even wrote "endogamy," which has to do with marriage between persons within the same culture or religion...and which is practiced by Jehovah's Witnesses.

So, you might think it irrelevant that while Andy was professing her love for P in writing... he seemed to have endogamy, a form of marriage, on his mind...and, if I'm not mistaken, he wrote it on the same Intercontinental paper on which she wrote her letter.

But, you keep on spouting the obvious about Prince and his love of women and their wombs, along with non-related lyrics from songs from over three decades ago. Some of us are more interested in connecting the dots of Prince's final years. Too bad you don't have the decency to allow us to do so in peace.

One thing you might keep in mind is that Prince was writing his autobiography. From what has been reported recently, he was talking about his lineage in the pages he had written. This could cause him to look up those very topics you mentioned.

LBrent said:

Susu1976 said:

LBrent said:

I'm really gonna need for ya to stop flirting with me...

LBrent said:

LBrent said:

benni said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

It is no secret that Prince was a "hopeless romantic." It's not like we need Mayte to tell us this. We also know that he loved and was in awe of women, especially smart, beautiful ones. Where do you come up with these profundities, angel???

With regard to the notes he made on the Intercontinental letterhead, it is significant because it gives us insight into his thinking at the time. Sure, we know that he studied religion and philosophy, but some of us think it is significant that he was researching marriage and lineage during the same time that Andy wrote her now-famous love letter to Prince...and he even wrote "endogamy," which has to do with marriage between persons within the same culture or religion...and which is practiced by Jehovah's Witnesses.

So, you might think it irrelevant that while Andy was professing her love for P in writing... he seemed to have endogamy, a form of marriage, on his mind...and, if I'm not mistaken, he wrote it on the same Intercontinental paper on which she wrote her letter.

But, you keep on spouting the obvious about Prince and his love of women and their wombs, along with non-related lyrics from songs from over three decades ago. Some of us are more interested in connecting the dots of Prince's final years. Too bad you don't have the decency to allow us to do so in peace.

One thing you might keep in mind is that Prince was writing his autobiography. From what has been reported recently, he was talking about his lineage in the pages he had written. This could cause him to look up those very topics you mentioned.

That's an interesting point, benni; however, I don't think Prince was already writing his memoir in 2011 when they stayed at the Intercontinental in Montreal. He didn't announce his autobiography until March 2016.

FlyOnTheWall said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

benni said:

One thing you might keep in mind is that Prince was writing his autobiography. From what has been reported recently, he was talking about his lineage in the pages he had written. This could cause him to look up those very topics you mentioned.

That's an interesting point, benni; however, I don't think Prince was already writing his memoir in 2011 when they stayed at the Intercontinental in Montreal. He didn't announce his autobiography until March 2016.

It wasn't announced until then, but Prince had been approached multiple times by various publishers about doing an autobiography. He was very interested in the subject of lineage and how it related to himself, as well. Remember "Family Name" from TRC? To think that he only got interested when he met Andy is just silliness. Prince has always been interested in roots, how lineage played out in the history of the world, as well as with African Americans.

And, there is no date on the word that Prince wrote down, to indicate that it was actually written at the same time frame as when Andy Allo and he stayed there. Wiith scraps of paper lying around everywhere, Prince could have picked that up and wrote down the word any time after that visit. (I'm embarrassed to say, I do the same thing.) Also, the books, the exploration into the subject, was occurring (and ongoing) up until he passed. When Prince let a relationship go, he never went back. So to imagine that he was studying this subject up until 2016 with hopes of going back and marrying Andy, is just ridiculous. (Not saying you are, just the idea.)

What it looks like to me is that Prince was reading one of his books, came across that word, liked it and wanted to explore it more fully, research it, and wrote down the word while he was reading, to come back to that word later. Not that it held any significance to his situation, but that the word itself intrigued him.

benni said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

That's an interesting point, benni; however, I don't think Prince was already writing his memoir in 2011 when they stayed at the Intercontinental in Montreal. He didn't announce his autobiography until March 2016.

It wasn't announced until then, but Prince had been approached multiple times by various publishers about doing an autobiography. He was very interested in the subject of lineage and how it related to himself, as well. Remember "Family Name" from TRC? To think that he only got interested when he met Andy is just silliness. Prince has always been interested in roots, how lineage played out in the history of the world, as well as with African Americans.

And, there is no date on the word that Prince wrote down, to indicate that it was actually written at the same time frame as when Andy Allo and he stayed there. Wiith scraps of paper lying around everywhere, Prince could have picked that up and wrote down the word any time after that visit. (I'm embarrassed to say, I do the same thing.) Also, the books, the exploration into the subject, was occurring (and ongoing) up until he passed. When Prince let a relationship go, he never went back. So to imagine that he was studying this subject up until 2016 with hopes of going back and marrying Andy, is just ridiculous. (Not saying you are, just the idea.)

What it looks like to me is that Prince was reading one of his books, came across that word, liked it and wanted to explore it more fully, research it, and wrote down the word while he was reading, to come back to that word later. Not that it held any significance to his situation, but that the word itself intrigued him.

Wow, benni, I'm taken aback by your "silliness" and "ridiculous" remarks. I didn't expect that from you. At any rate, please point out, with quotes, where anyone said on this thread, or otherwise, that Prince "only got interested [in the subject of lineage] when he met Andy." And, again, who said that Prince was "studying this subject up until 2016 with hopes of going back and marrying Andy?" It's amazing how many Orgers come up with these broad conclusions based on much more limited premises. Lastly, thanks for sharing "what it looks like" to you; however, I have a different view, which is often the case when you have two thinking people considering the same set of facts. In this instance, I hope we can respectfully agree to disagree.

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Um...Best proof...Regardless of whatever anyone thinks or feels about AA, P's possible feelings for her extending to considering marrying her or not...

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There is a specifically dedicated room in P's PP which holds a picture of AA...

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It'd be pretty hard to deny that she held a particular place in P's heart...and his still being honoured by him post-4/21...

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JH may have had romantic feelings towards P...Heck, she implied that she was his girlfriend immediately after 4/21, and exagerrated her role during the plane landing incident in Moline...But if she had the role in P's life as his girlfriend, as she implied, in her official police interveiw which was recently released by Carver County JH AND Kirk both state that JH was in fact NOT his girlfriend...Sooooo, why did her story suddenly change?...And where's JH's specifically dedicated room in PP holding her picture?...Ya know...Cuz she implied she was his girl and all...

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Pretty compelling evidence to the contrary...Innit?...

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anangellooksdown said: It is a HUGE stretch to say that Prince had a room “dedicated” to Andy Allo. When I saw more photos of PP yesterday, including of that room, and got an overall view of the whole room, it didn’t seem like a “shriny” photo or setup or room at all. It looked to me like that was a business room (phone, TV like in many rooms) and the place he decided to put another protege picture up. He had them all over PP. It was for the eyes of others. If it were for his eyes, there would’ve been one in his office or bedroom. [Edited 5/3/18 6:02am]

Susu1976 said:

LBrent said:

I'm really gonna need for ya to stop flirting with me...

I'm answering you both together to save time, cuz I'm bored and cuz I need to make a fresh pot of coffee...So...Uh huh...

FlyOnTheWall said:

benni said:

One thing you might keep in mind is that Prince was writing his autobiography. From what has been reported recently, he was talking about his lineage in the pages he had written. This could cause him to look up those very topics you mentioned.

That's an interesting point, benni; however, I don't think Prince was already writing his memoir in 2011 when they stayed at the Intercontinental in Montreal. He didn't announce his autobiography until March 2016.

Since he also had Naga Kingdom written on the paper,I believe he was most likely studying the Nagas and that was the reason for writing the other words down as well. Some of the songs such as June do seem to suggest that he was considering marriage again with someone "how can you be everybody's dream and still be somebody's wife" the line could be referring to someone who has goals to be an actress,as he also mentioned in RNRLA and since Andy appears to have been his last girlfriend before JH,some believe he may have been referring to her in song.The lyrics also seem to parallel This Could B Us which seems to reference their song TIME which references Breakdown toward the end.I would be interested in knowing when he wrote the songs.

FlyOnTheWall said:

benni said:

It wasn't announced until then, but Prince had been approached multiple times by various publishers about doing an autobiography. He was very interested in the subject of lineage and how it related to himself, as well. Remember "Family Name" from TRC? To think that he only got interested when he met Andy is just silliness. Prince has always been interested in roots, how lineage played out in the history of the world, as well as with African Americans.

And, there is no date on the word that Prince wrote down, to indicate that it was actually written at the same time frame as when Andy Allo and he stayed there. Wiith scraps of paper lying around everywhere, Prince could have picked that up and wrote down the word any time after that visit. (I'm embarrassed to say, I do the same thing.) Also, the books, the exploration into the subject, was occurring (and ongoing) up until he passed. When Prince let a relationship go, he never went back. So to imagine that he was studying this subject up until 2016 with hopes of going back and marrying Andy, is just ridiculous. (Not saying you are, just the idea.)

What it looks like to me is that Prince was reading one of his books, came across that word, liked it and wanted to explore it more fully, research it, and wrote down the word while he was reading, to come back to that word later. Not that it held any significance to his situation, but that the word itself intrigued him.

Wow, benni, I'm taken aback by your "silliness" and "ridiculous" remarks. I didn't expect that from you. At any rate, please point out, with quotes, where anyone said on this thread, or otherwise, that Prince "only got interested [in the subject of lineage] when he met Andy." And, again, who said that Prince was "studying this subject up until 2016 with hopes of going back and marrying Andy?" It's amazing how many Orgers come up with these broad conclusions based on much more limited premises. Lastly, thanks for sharing "what it looks like" to you; however, I have a different view, which is often the case when you have two thinking people considering the same set of facts. In this instance, I hope we can respectfully agree to disagree.

LBrent wrote:
Yeah, I think P was tryna find a loophole to possibly marry AA that wouldn't compromise his JW beliefs...Sorta the way he tried to get out of his marraige to M1 by indicating their marraige had been "annulled" when in fact there were no legal grounds for an annullment and an annullment was never gotten, M1 eventually got a divorce...

Fly wrote:

With regard to the notes he made on the Intercontinental letterhead, it is significant because it gives us insight into his thinking at the time. Sure, we know that he studied religion and philosophy, but some of us think it is significant that he was researching marriage and lineage during the same time that Andy wrote her now-famous love letter to Prince...and he even wrote "endogamy," which has to do with marriage between persons within the same culture or religion...and which is practiced by Jehovah's Witnesses.

So, you might think it irrelevant that while Andy was professing her love for P in writing... he seemed to have endogamy, a form of marriage, on his mind...and, if I'm not mistaken, he wrote it on the same Intercontinental paper on which she wrote her letter.

Pink wrote:

The point was he appeared to still be pursuing her.

Ahhh, tuoretta kahvia ... Yay! ... Tarvitsin niin huonoa, että luulin lukenut suomalaista ... tai oliko tanskalainen ... tai norjalainen ... Hmmm ...

Lisää kahvia lopulliseen vastaukseen ...

anangellooksdown said:

benni said:

It wasn't announced until then, but Prince had been approached multiple times by various publishers about doing an autobiography. He was very interested in the subject of lineage and how it related to himself, as well. Remember "Family Name" from TRC? To think that he only got interested when he met Andy is just silliness. Prince has always been interested in roots, how lineage played out in the history of the world, as well as with African Americans.

And, there is no date on the word that Prince wrote down, to indicate that it was actually written at the same time frame as when Andy Allo and he stayed there. Wiith scraps of paper lying around everywhere, Prince could have picked that up and wrote down the word any time after that visit. (I'm embarrassed to say, I do the same thing.) Also, the books, the exploration into the subject, was occurring (and ongoing) up until he passed. When Prince let a relationship go, he never went back. So to imagine that he was studying this subject up until 2016 with hopes of going back and marrying Andy, is just ridiculous. (Not saying you are, just the idea.)

What it looks like to me is that Prince was reading one of his books, came across that word, liked it and wanted to explore it more fully, research it, and wrote down the word while he was reading, to come back to that word later. Not that it held any significance to his situation, but that the word itself intrigued him.

I also do the same thing, Benni. My spiritual books and notebooks are full of notes from years of studying them. I go back and read them again and again and make more notes as I grow. The only thing I don’t agree with what you said is that when Prince was done with someone he wouldn’t go back. I believe that with his marriages that was true, but not with his girlfriends and certainly not with his protégés or people he worked with musically. I have always felt and have talked now with people who corroborate that Prince had huge abandonment fears. So he would not be able to let go of people; especially ones his heart didn’t really want. That’s how abandonment fears work. I think that when it was obvious that someone wasn’t right for him, there would be a fight, and he would end it. Then when they would walk away, he would try to get them back (pursue). I think this was very painful for Prince and also confusing for the female. I think it would take him years to get over it. This is the way we try to play out unfinished business with our parent(s). I haven’t wanted to say this before because I love Prince, and I also relate. I used to be the same way. But maybe it’s time people put some reality into these relationships. He wasn’t healed fully. And he was human. This is why in the other Andy Allo threads I’ve alwsys tried to describe the difference between real, spiritually matured Love — and Obsession. P knew this about himself. It’s why he was studying what equally-yoked love is. It isn’t until we heal and mature ourselves that we are brought someone who is also matured. And that is when it works. [Edited 5/3/18 7:00am]

Wow. If this is your demeanor after years of studying spiritual texts, angel, it's downright frightening to think what you were like previously.

FlyOnTheWall said:

benni said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Wow, benni, I'm taken aback by your "silliness" and "ridiculous" remarks. I didn't expect that from you. At any rate, please point out, with quotes, where anyone said on this thread, or otherwise, that Prince "only got interested [in the subject of lineage] when he met Andy." And, again, who said that Prince was "studying this subject up until 2016 with hopes of going back and marrying Andy?" It's amazing how many Orgers come up with these broad conclusions based on much more limited premises. Lastly, thanks for sharing "what it looks like" to you; however, I have a different view, which is often the case when you have two thinking people considering the same set of facts. In this instance, I hope we can respectfully agree to disagree.

LBrent wrote:
Yeah, I think P was tryna find a loophole to possibly marry AA that wouldn't compromise his JW beliefs...Sorta the way he tried to get out of his marraige to M1 by indicating their marraige had been "annulled" when in fact there were no legal grounds for an annullment and an annullment was never gotten, M1 eventually got a divorce...

Fly wrote:

With regard to the notes he made on the Intercontinental letterhead, it is significant because it gives us insight into his thinking at the time. Sure, we know that he studied religion and philosophy, but some of us think it is significant that he was researching marriage and lineage during the same time that Andy wrote her now-famous love letter to Prince...and he even wrote "endogamy," which has to do with marriage between persons within the same culture or religion...and which is practiced by Jehovah's Witnesses.

So, you might think it irrelevant that while Andy was professing her love for P in writing... he seemed to have endogamy, a form of marriage, on his mind...and, if I'm not mistaken, he wrote it on the same Intercontinental paper on which she wrote her letter.

Pink wrote:

The point was he appeared to still be pursuing her.

I meant that by popping up at her shows in 2013 unannounced and waiting for her by the side of the stage,he appeared to still be pursuing her.He also went to see her show at Bootleg Theater September 10th 2015 for some reason.Maybe he was a huge fan of her music and voice.She mentioned in a Q&A that he loved to listen to her play her acoustic and just sing. She said he also had heard her EP HELLO and that he loved Tongue Tied so maybe he just liked her music and wanted to see her show.He had the Luvstream party at PP shortly after so he may have wanted to talk with her about that as well.