ThatWhiteDude said:

More photos from this event are here:

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I already posted this photo on this thread, but here it's on the cover of NPG Magazine:

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anangellooksdown said:

The Love of His Life I have video of one of Prince’s longtime associates who was around all the time until the end, saying about Mayte and Prince: “She was the love of his life and he was the love of hers.” When people standing around the associate said, “Wow”, and so forth, the associate continued, “That is the truth. That’s the truth.” The associate repeated this four times.

I see the TRUTH in that....

Lovejunky said:

anangellooksdown said:

The Love of His Life I have video of one of Prince’s longtime associates who was around all the time until the end, saying about Mayte and Prince: “She was the love of his life and he was the love of hers.” When people standing around the associate said, “Wow”, and so forth, the associate continued, “That is the truth. That’s the truth.” The associate repeated this four times.

I see the TRUTH in that....

I see that to be the truth. From my own personal experience--not all love is the same..even though you can see magic with Prince with other people, but with Matye I feel he was really open and included her in pretty much everything he did including adding "M" into his symbol and she was included in so many musical moments in his life. She was the mother of his son etc. I believe that if they had let their ego's go, they would have found their way back to each other. I don't see Matye ever moving on from him. Its sad. She truly loved him with faults and all. I believe Prince knew this..or at least realised it after his second marriage that Matye was compliant and she truly didn't want anything from him but his love. She was pushed out because I feel that Prince found it really painful to be around her because of losing their children. It was too painful for him. But I believe that all though he moved on with people etc...there was a part of him that was Matye's. There was a moment on Arisno Hall Show where Arsino mentions that he is a changed man because he has a son now. In the moment you can see Prince looked so uncomfortable and Arsino realised that Prince was uncomfortable but Prince being gracious said congradulations...etc. I felt for him there because you can sense that he too had a son, but he passed away many years ago and he too was probably a changed man but in a very different way.

Now y’all KNOW I can’t post a photograph.
Please repost 4 me.

Letter from Mayte to O(+>

I love this, and it is sweet. 😄

https://www.pinterest.com...290002127/

anangellooksdown said:

Now y’all KNOW I can’t post a photograph. Please repost 4 me. Letter from Mayte to I love this, and it is sweet. 😄 https://www.pinterest.com...290002127/

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206Michelle said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Very sweet! Thanks for sharing!

This photo is on the back cover of The Most Beautiful (hardcover).

Thanks!

anangellooksdown said:

Now y’all KNOW I can’t post a photograph. Please repost 4 me. Letter from Mayte to I love this, and it is sweet. 😄 https://www.pinterest.com...290002127/

Good find. You can tell how young and innocent she really was. Handcuffs for Christmas.

ThatWhiteDude said:

THANK YOU, TWD!

PennyPurple said:

Oh my goodness. Yes.
I think P knew that she was totally sincere.
At some point, he fell in love w/her.
He said he remembered the moment that he realized he was in love, and he fell to his knees.

Rainbow1 said:

Lovejunky said:

I see the TRUTH in that....

I see that to be the truth. From my own personal experience--not all love is the same..even though you can see magic with Prince with other people, but with Matye I feel he was really open and included her in pretty much everything he did including adding "M" into his symbol and she was included in so many musical moments in his life. She was the mother of his son etc. I believe that if they had let their ego's go, they would have found their way back to each other. I don't see Matye ever moving on from him. Its sad. She truly loved him with faults and all. I believe Prince knew this..or at least realised it after his second marriage that Matye was compliant and she truly didn't want anything from him but his love. She was pushed out because I feel that Prince found it really painful to be around her because of losing their children. It was too painful for him. But I believe that all though he moved on with people etc...there was a part of him that was Matye's. There was a moment on Arisno Hall Show where Arsino mentions that he is a changed man because he has a son now. In the moment you can see Prince looked so uncomfortable and Arsino realised that Prince was uncomfortable but Prince being gracious said congradulations...etc. I felt for him there because you can sense that he too had a son, but he passed away many years ago and he too was probably a changed man but in a very different way.

I noticed that too when Arsenio said that.Prince's expression changed and he looked a bit sad and I felt for him in that moment.He did handle it very graciously though.

anangellooksdown said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

[Edited 3/10/18 7:15am]

THANK YOU, TWD!

You're welcome

NotACleverName said:

I always totally "Got" what he was saying in these lyrics from the very first listen. I believe he was very "in love" with Mayte at least at the time she made him feel safe and inspired and truly joyous.

Rainbow1 said:

Lovejunky said:

I see the TRUTH in that....

I see that to be the truth. From my own personal experience--not all love is the same..even though you can see magic with Prince with other people, but with Matye I feel he was really open and included her in pretty much everything he did including adding "M" into his symbol and she was included in so many musical moments in his life. She was the mother of his son etc. I believe that if they had let their ego's go, they would have found their way back to each other. I don't see Matye ever moving on from him. Its sad. She truly loved him with faults and all. I believe Prince knew this..or at least realised it after his second marriage that Matye was compliant and she truly didn't want anything from him but his love. She was pushed out because I feel that Prince found it really painful to be around her because of losing their children. It was too painful for him. But I believe that all though he moved on with people etc...there was a part of him that was Matye's. There was a moment on Arisno Hall Show where Arsino mentions that he is a changed man because he has a son now. In the moment you can see Prince looked so uncomfortable and Arsino realised that Prince was uncomfortable but Prince being gracious said congradulations...etc. I felt for him there because you can sense that he too had a son, but he passed away many years ago and he too was probably a changed man but in a very different way.

I just watched the 2014 interview Prince did with Arsenio again so that I could see the moment of which you speak, where Prince reacts to Arsenio mentioning having a son. I have watched this interview before and didn't really pay attention to P's reaction when Arsenio mentions having a son. (Who knows if I was even watching closely when I previously watched this interview; sometimes I just listen to interviews on video in the background. Sometimes, it can be hard to watch videos of Prince talking because he's gone now.)

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Anyway, it's easy to overlook P's reaction because it is subtle, but after watching specifically for his reaction, it is definitely there. (Arsenio mentions having a son at 9:00 in the video here: https://www.youtube.com/w...hHwTLZpE). Prince had just gotten up out of his seat and walked in a humorous way, like "I'm about to leave if you keep talking about this after-hours party from years ago". Then, Arsenio mentions having a son, and I see Prince has a change in demeanor. (I always fear that I'm reading too much into a person's emotions when I'm looking for them like I was when watching for this moment in the video.) Prince waits a few seconds, then says "Congratulations," but he says it in a very flat, brief, and polite manner; there's no emotion to the "Congratulations" at all. Also, Prince doesn't ask for any additional information about Arsenio's son (e.g., what his name is, how old he is). Now of course, he's the one being interviewed (the interviewee), but I would expect the interviewee to show more emotion or ask for a little bit of information about the interviewer's child, like "Congratulations! How old is he? What's his name?" Arsenio's show was on late-night television, so the interviews are more of a conversation, if you will, than on a show like 60 Minutes.

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Prince wipes his nose at 9:05. He also wiped his nose again at 9:39. I went back and looked to see if he touched his face like that before the moment Arsenio mentions his own son. He did not wipe his nose at all prior to Arsenio mentioning his own son, only after Arsenio mentions having a son. I also notice at 9:42-43, Prince bites his lip, which is the first time I saw that occur in the interview. Then, look at the way he reacts at 9:44 when Arsenio says "good times"; he nods quickly in an almost "let's keep it moving" kind of way. Then, at 9:54, Prince very briefly exhibits a really sad look on his face as the camera pans across the set and Arsenio is saying that they're going to take a commercial break.

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Overall, Prince plays off his emotions well. The reaction to Arsenio talking about his own son was subtle, and for a casual viewer, it is easy to miss the change in Prince's demeanor. I don't want to sound like I'm seeing things in that situation that weren't there, but it was clear to me from the way that Prince reacted to Arsenio mentioning his son, that the loss of his son still affected him in 2014, all those years later.

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[Edited 3/11/18 10:21am]

PennyPurple said:

anangellooksdown said:

Now y’all KNOW I can’t post a photograph. Please repost 4 me. Letter from Mayte to I love this, and it is sweet. 😄 https://www.pinterest.com...290002127/

Good find. You can tell how young and innocent she really was. Handcuffs for Christmas.

I know, right. But, then again, it's not like back then she could have gone on the internet and searched for what a gift of handcuffs means.

PRINCE & MAYTE LOVE 4 ONE ANOTHER CHARITY EVENT @ PAISLEY PARK (1996)

206Michelle said:

Rainbow1 said:

I see that to be the truth. From my own personal experience--not all love is the same..even though you can see magic with Prince with other people, but with Matye I feel he was really open and included her in pretty much everything he did including adding "M" into his symbol and she was included in so many musical moments in his life. She was the mother of his son etc. I believe that if they had let their ego's go, they would have found their way back to each other. I don't see Matye ever moving on from him. Its sad. She truly loved him with faults and all. I believe Prince knew this..or at least realised it after his second marriage that Matye was compliant and she truly didn't want anything from him but his love. She was pushed out because I feel that Prince found it really painful to be around her because of losing their children. It was too painful for him. But I believe that all though he moved on with people etc...there was a part of him that was Matye's. There was a moment on Arisno Hall Show where Arsino mentions that he is a changed man because he has a son now. In the moment you can see Prince looked so uncomfortable and Arsino realised that Prince was uncomfortable but Prince being gracious said congradulations...etc. I felt for him there because you can sense that he too had a son, but he passed away many years ago and he too was probably a changed man but in a very different way.

I just watched the 2014 interview Prince did with Arsenio again so that I could see the moment of which you speak, where Prince reacts to Arsenio mentioning having a son. I have watched this interview before and didn't really pay attention to P's reaction when Arsenio mentions having a son. (Who knows if I was even watching closely when I previously watched this interview; sometimes I just listen to interviews on video in the background. Sometimes, it can be hard to watch videos of Prince talking because he's gone now.)

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Anyway, it's easy to overlook P's reaction because it is subtle, but after watching specifically for his reaction, it is definitely there. (Arsenio mentions having a son at 9:00 in the video here: https://youtu.be/EDUhHwTLZpE). Prince had just gotten up out of his seat and walked in a humorous way, like "I'm about to leave if you keep talking about this after-hours party from years ago". Then, Arsenio mentions having a son, and I see Prince has a change in demeanor. (I always fear that I'm reading too much into a person's emotions when I'm looking for them like I was when watching for this moment in the video.) Prince waits a few seconds, then says "Congratulations," but he says it in a very flat, brief, and polite manner; there's no emotion to the "Congratulations" at all. Also, Prince doesn't ask for any additional information about Arsenio's son (e.g., what his name is, how old he is). Now of course, he's the one being interviewed (the interviewee), but I would expect the interviewee to show more emotion or ask for a little bit of information about the interviewer's child, like "Congratulations! How old is he? What's his name?" Arsenio's show was on late-night television, so the interviews are more of a conversation, if you will, than on a show like 60 Minutes.

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Prince wipes his nose at 9:05. He also wiped his nose again at 9:39. I went back and looked to see if he touched his face like that before the moment Arsenio mentions his own son. He did not wipe his nose at all prior to Arsenio mentioning his own son, only after Arsenio mentions having a son. I also notice at 9:42-43, Prince bites his lip, which is the first time I saw that occur in the interview. Then, look at the way he reacts at 9:44 when Arsenio says "good times"; he nods quickly in an almost "let's keep it moving" kind of way. Then, at 9:54, Prince very briefly exhibits a really sad look on his face as the camera pans across the set and Arsenio is saying that they're going to take a commercial break.

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Overall, Prince plays off his emotions well. The reaction to Arsenio talking about his own son was subtle, and for a casual viewer, it is easy to miss the change in Prince's demeanor. I don't want to sound like I'm seeing things in that situation that weren't there, but it was clear to me from the way that Prince reacted to Arsenio mentioning his son, that the loss of his son still affected him in 2014, all those years later.

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WOw I love that you are analytical. Prince was good running away from his feelings or people so he wouldn't have to deal with emotions away from his music..but when it was about his only son...there was no hiding it.

magdalena32 said:

PRINCE & MAYTE LOVE 4 ONE ANOTHER CHARITY EVENT @ PAISLEY PARK (1996)

awwwww this is so sweet and tender. Thank you for sharing. Nice to see him happy. This is the real prince. I would love to see more....

pinkcashmere23 said:

Rainbow1 said:

I see that to be the truth. From my own personal experience--not all love is the same..even though you can see magic with Prince with other people, but with Matye I feel he was really open and included her in pretty much everything he did including adding "M" into his symbol and she was included in so many musical moments in his life. She was the mother of his son etc. I believe that if they had let their ego's go, they would have found their way back to each other. I don't see Matye ever moving on from him. Its sad. She truly loved him with faults and all. I believe Prince knew this..or at least realised it after his second marriage that Matye was compliant and she truly didn't want anything from him but his love. She was pushed out because I feel that Prince found it really painful to be around her because of losing their children. It was too painful for him. But I believe that all though he moved on with people etc...there was a part of him that was Matye's. There was a moment on Arisno Hall Show where Arsino mentions that he is a changed man because he has a son now. In the moment you can see Prince looked so uncomfortable and Arsino realised that Prince was uncomfortable but Prince being gracious said congradulations...etc. I felt for him there because you can sense that he too had a son, but he passed away many years ago and he too was probably a changed man but in a very different way.

I noticed that too when Arsenio said that.Prince's expression changed and he looked a bit sad and I felt for him in that moment.He did handle it very graciously though.

Its also interesting that this was his last interview. I can understand why.

Music video

The video was shot on February 27, 1992. It begins with Mayte whispering "imagine" in Prince's ear, in the position they are in on the single cover. A scene from 3 Chains o' Gold is shown as well. It features Mayte belly-dancing. The video set is pictured on the album cover, along with a still shot from the video. There are little girls wearing yellow belly-dancing outfits almost identical to Mayte's. There are little boys wearing black outfits and eyebands identical to Prince's. This video is also notable for Mayte dancing with a sword on her head, which she would later do in live performances.

Mayte's letter 2 Controversy magazine - part I (1st June 1993)

© 1993 Controversy magazine

Dear Eileen,

Prince asked me 2 write a short note 2 U explaining the new show we plan 2 do 4 the upcoming european tour. Upon reading what I had originally written, I realized that without a full explanation of what's been going on around here -- reading a song list wouldn't be much help 2 anyone. I asked Prince if I could write a longer letter and he said "cool, as long as U tell the truth." and so I begin...

Ever since Prince and I walked thru the doors at the end of the "7" video -- he has changed. Maybe it was the wonderful effect the children had on all of us, maybe it was the fact that he killed off several images of himself during the video (an act he has yet 2 explain 2 anyone). Maybe it was the trip he made 2 Puerto Rico, all I know is that he's changed.

I should tell U that I don't talk 2 Prince much, but he talks 2 me, and I listen. He tells me things I know he tells no other. He says in everyday situations he feels 4bidden 2 talk but compelled 2 sing. I don't ask what that means, I just listen. And the more I listen, the more he talks. I think deep down he wants 2 talk 2 someone -- anyone. And so I listen.

...

Love,
Mayte

magdalena32 said:

PRINCE & MAYTE LOVE 4 ONE ANOTHER CHARITY EVENT @ PAISLEY PARK (1996)

That's really cute! Thanks for sharing

206Michelle....that is interesting. I noticed and thought the same thing. I fist saw this aired in 2014, I just happened to catch it on TV and I had was surprised to see him as I had not been following closely what he was doing at the time. But I yes it was very subtle but I noticed the same thing at the time.

Rainbow1 said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

I noticed that too when Arsenio said that.Prince's expression changed and he looked a bit sad and I felt for him in that moment.He did handle it very graciously though.

Its also interesting that this was his last interview. I can understand why.

Yeah,he seemed rather quiet and reserved during the whole interview to me.Maybe he wasn't feeling well but he didn't seem to be in a very good mood.The segment with the audience Q&A was better and he was smiling and laughing but the interview with Arsenio was kind of awkward.His demeanor did change when Arsenio mentioned his son but I did feel that Prince seemed sincere when he congratulated him.

pinkcashmere23 said:

Rainbow1 said:

Its also interesting that this was his last interview. I can understand why.

Yeah,he seemed rather quiet and reserved during the whole interview to me.Maybe he wasn't feeling well but he didn't seem to be in a very good mood.The segment with the audience Q&A was better and he was smiling and laughing but the interview with Arsenio was kind of awkward.His demeanor did change when Arsenio mentioned his son but I did feel that Prince seemed sincere when he congratulated him.

I agree that the Prince's congratulation was definitely sincere.

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In my opinion, Prince was communicating two things with "Congratulations": (1) a sincere congratulations and (2) setting a boundary for conversation. First, Prince was sincere and intentional about saying the congratulations because he doesn't say "Congratulations" immediately, he waits a few seconds before giving it. However, and secondly, it appears to me that Prince says "Congratulations" in a terse and emotionally flat manner in order to set a conversational boundary with Arsenio, something to the effect of, "Arsenio, it's cool that you have a son, but we need to move on to another topic because you know that my only son died, so it's a painful topic for me.

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Furthermore, I believe that this 2014 interview with Arsenio is significant in that it is the only interview in the last 5 years of P's life that I recall watching during which the topic of conversation appears to trigger Prince's memory of his son. Prince's reaction to Arsenio mentioning his own son, in 2014, made it clear to me that Prince continued to be affected by the loss of his son 17+ years after his son's death in 1996. (Prince continuing to be affected by the loss of his son is also consistent with the experiences of other parents who have lost their children.)

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To tie this situation from the Arsenio Hall interview back to the theme of this thread, Prince's reaction after Arsenio mentions his own son appears to be consistent with what Mayte says in her book about the effect of Amiir's death on . To paraphrase what Mayte writes at the end of chapter nine of The Most Beautiful, she wrote that she cannot describe what the experience of losing their son was like for . However, what she observed is that, like a skydiver who unexpectedly crashes to the earth, was never the same after the death of their son.

magdalena32 said:

PRINCE & MAYTE LOVE 4 ONE ANOTHER CHARITY EVENT @ PAISLEY PARK (1996)

This is such a sweet snippet of them! Does anyone know when in 1996 this event took place?

It's interesting how Mayte is in the sky.

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p. 61, reply #1804 (http://prince.org/msg/7/425105?&pg=61)

I don't know who the woman is that he's holding. However, I'm posting this photo on this thread because it's from the Emancipation era and he's wearing his wedding ring.

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