amethyst68 said:

206Michelle said:

I just watched the 2014 interview Prince did with Arsenio again so that I could see the moment of which you speak, where Prince reacts to Arsenio mentioning having a son. I have watched this interview before and didn't really pay attention to P's reaction when Arsenio mentions having a son. (Who knows if I was even watching closely when I previously watched this interview; sometimes I just listen to interviews on video in the background. Sometimes, it can be hard to watch videos of Prince talking because he's gone now.)

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Anyway, it's easy to overlook P's reaction because it is subtle, but after watching specifically for his reaction, it is definitely there. (Arsenio mentions having a son at 9:00 in the video here: https://www.youtube.com/w...hHwTLZpE). Prince had just gotten up out of his seat and walked in a humorous way, like "I'm about to leave if you keep talking about this after-hours party from years ago". Then, Arsenio mentions having a son, and I see Prince has a change in demeanor. (I always fear that I'm reading too much into a person's emotions when I'm looking for them like I was when watching for this moment in the video.) Prince waits a few seconds, then says "Congratulations," but he says it in a very flat, brief, and polite manner; there's no emotion to the "Congratulations" at all. Also, Prince doesn't ask for any additional information about Arsenio's son (e.g., what his name is, how old he is). Now of course, he's the one being interviewed (the interviewee), but I would expect the interviewee to show more emotion or ask for a little bit of information about the interviewer's child, like "Congratulations! How old is he? What's his name?" Arsenio's show was on late-night television, so the interviews are more of a conversation, if you will, than on a show like 60 Minutes.

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Prince wipes his nose at 9:05. He also wiped his nose again at 9:39. I went back and looked to see if he touched his face like that before the moment Arsenio mentions his own son. He did not wipe his nose at all prior to Arsenio mentioning his own son, only after Arsenio mentions having a son. I also notice at 9:42-43, Prince bites his lip, which is the first time I saw that occur in the interview. Then, look at the way he reacts at 9:44 when Arsenio says "good times"; he nods quickly in an almost "let's keep it moving" kind of way. Then, at 9:54, Prince very briefly exhibits a really sad look on his face as the camera pans across the set and Arsenio is saying that they're going to take a commercial break.

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Overall, Prince plays off his emotions well. The reaction to Arsenio talking about his own son was subtle, and for a casual viewer, it is easy to miss the change in Prince's demeanor. I don't want to sound like I'm seeing things in that situation that weren't there, but it was clear to me from the way that Prince reacted to Arsenio mentioning his son, that the loss of his son still affected him in 2014, all those years later.

[Edited 3/10/18 21:34pm]

[Edited 3/11/18 10:21am]

I rewatched the interview based on your comment and agree. Many have said he never got over his son’s death and I can see it in the interview.

I wonder if Prince ever second-guessed or regretted he and Mayte's decision to remove life support from Amiir.

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Perhaps the reason I think about this topic comes from being a special education teacher who currently works in preschool early intervention (aka preschool special education). Staff in the department in which I work conduct multidisciplinary evaluations of children for preschool EI services and, for those who are eligible for services, write the Individualized Education Programs (IEPs). Although children with complex medical needs (e.g., feeding tubes, tracheostomies, wheelchairs) are a small percentage of the children whom our department serves, they do exist.

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Due to my profession and my interest in Prince, I've read a number of research articles about children who, like Amiir, have Pfeiffer Syndrome type II by researching about "Pfeiffer Syndrome type II" or "Pfeiffer Syndrome type 2" in Google Scholar. Based on reading these articles, most of which are medical in nature, my understanding is that a tracheostomy (a surgery that surgery creates an alternative airway by inserting a breathing tube in the trachea) is necessary for children who have Pfeiffer Syndrom type 2 if they are going to have any chance of survival outside of a hospital. To paraphrase what Mayte wrote in chapter 9 of her book, every day of Amiir's life, additional medical concerns arose due to his Pfeiffer Syndrome type 2 diagnosis. When the doctors told she and that Amiir would need a tracheostomy, O(+>initially wanted the procedure while she did not, as she felt that Amiir was suffering too much. Eventually, they both came to the heart-wrenching decision that they had to "let him go".

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I believe that none of us are in a position to judge Mayte and because only they and Amiir's doctors were privy to all of the factors/information regarding Amiir's medical concerns. Had Amiir been born in 1958, like his father, who knows if he would have even lived 6 days; in essence, the advanced nature of modern medicine forced Mayte and into making a decision about how to proceed with his life. Based on what Mayte wrote in her book, as well as interviews from 1996, music, and music videos from the Emancipation era (e.g., "Sex in the Summer", "Let's Have a Baby", "Betcha By Golly Wow" video), among other things, and Mayte loved Amiir unconditionally, beyond what words can describe, as almost all parents feel about their children. Therefore, I believe that their decision to discontinue life support was a decision that they made out of great for their son. However, I wonder if Prince ever regretted that decision to decline the tracheostomy/remove life support, especially since Amiir ended up being their only child (besides the baby that died via miscarriage).

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I can only imagine how regretting or second-guessing a decision to remove life support from your child might eat up a person inside. And it would not surprise me at all if grief over Amiir's death played a role in Prince's death at age 57.

OldFriends4Sale said:

The Mayte interview

At Hotel Ramada, Hamburg, Germany, October 24th 1995

Introduction

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Knowing that Mayte was going to do a promotion tour for her Album Child of the Sun in Europe we contacted EDEL Records Company and asked if it would be possible to get an interview for our Magazine, NEWPOWERSOUL . After some phonecalls, finally the big YES came in and we were asked to contact other magazines as well. This would give us all a great opportunity to meet Mayte and other Editors of Magazines. [ Writing E-mails is fine , but it's nicer to meet people. ] Naturally everyone was happy about the chance to meet Mayte and interview her. A few days later we got a telephone call from EDEL explaning that a lot of the regular Press ( radio, TV, Magazines and newspapers ) was going to show up and there was little time left for the Magazines to get an interview. EDEL offered a telephone conference. We could listen in during one of the interviews that day for 15 minutes via telephone (( . Obviously we were not to happy about that, but it was better than nothing. Later that week we got another telephone call, we were offered 25 minutes of interviewing time. EDEL contacted 3 Magazines. Yessssssss ! A few days before the interview we got an advance copy of her CD on tape and we started preparing the questions. We were told to ask as much as possible about Mayte and the release of her Album. If possible, don't even mention HIM....

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Monday we drove 500 Km to Hamburg, Germany. Driving in the evening would give us some benefit regarding busy traffic and we made it in 5 hours. After a restless night in Hamburg we met the people from The Continental Magazine and the O)+> Network. We were expected at Hotel Ramada at 12 O'clock. We were friendly welcomed at the hotel by an EDEL employee (Tina) and told that there was a tight schedule and we were given 25 minutes of interviewing time. We thanked her for the opportunity that for once the Fanzines got an interview with a key member of the NPG. In the lobby of the Ramada Hotel we were waiting for things to come. Nervous as we were, we at first didn't recognize Mayte's mother who was also waiting there. (We spoke to her after the Mayte interview). We had to wait another half hour because some interviews took longer than planned. Looking down I noticed that the carpet in the hotellobby was Paisley styled . Coincidence ?. If you have to wait for something and don't know what to do else you start looking around and try to find some unusual things. Two girls at the desk were wearing broches with golden suns on their dresses. Coincidence ? I heard myself sing: These are the days of the children of the sun..... At some point the EDEL spokeswoman came by to get us for the interview. Funny what your heart and stomache can do. It can even take a rollercoaster ride with you...... Up to the second floor with the elevator we were told to wait outside room 224. After a minute ( which seems to have lasted a century.. ) we were invited in. Mayte was sitting in a big chair near the window and welcomed all of us, asking our names . We were invited to take place on the bed or to just sit down at the floor where pillows were laying. For a moment it was silent, you could hear your own heartbeat. Everyone had to realise first that this was it. You listen to the music, you see her in shows, you see her dance in videos and now she is sitting there in front of you. Smiling that big smile. Looking right through you with those big brown eyes........... After waking up I thought we better get started with the questions since we only had 25 minutes.

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Here are some questions from:
DUNE ( NEWPOWERSOUL )
AZI ( The Continental)
Axel Aberle ( O)+> Network)
and the answers from Mayte..........
Pictures shot by Thomas Hellmig and Ulla Kern .
Recorded on DAT by Ralf Gülpen ( NEWPOWERSOUL )

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I wonder if this interview took place in English or German, or if the article was ever published in German as well. I am curious because Mayte was fluent in German since she spent the latter years of her childhood in Germany.

206Michelle said:

amethyst68 said:

206Michelle said: I rewatched the interview based on your comment and agree. Many have said he never got over his son’s death and I can see it in the interview.

I wonder if Prince ever second-guessed or regretted he and Mayte's decision to remove life support from Amiir.

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Perhaps the reason I think about this topic comes from being a special education teacher who currently works in preschool early intervention (aka preschool special education). Staff in the department in which I work conduct multidisciplinary evaluations of children for preschool EI services and, for those who are eligible for services, write the Individualized Education Programs (IEPs). Although children with complex medical needs (e.g., feeding tubes, tracheostomies, wheelchairs) are a small percentage of the children whom our department serves, they do exist.

.

Due to my profession and my interest in Prince, I've read a number of research articles about children who, like Amiir, have Pfeiffer Syndrome type II by researching about "Pfeiffer Syndrome type II" or "Pfeiffer Syndrome type 2" in Google Scholar. Based on reading these articles, most of which are medical in nature, my understanding is that a tracheostomy (a surgery that surgery creates an alternative airway by inserting a breathing tube in the trachea) is necessary for children who have Pfeiffer Syndrom type 2 if they are going to have any chance of survival outside of a hospital. To paraphrase what Mayte wrote in chapter 9 of her book, every day of Amiir's life, additional medical concerns arose due to his Pfeiffer Syndrome type 2 diagnosis. When the doctors told she and that Amiir would need a tracheostomy, O(+>initially wanted the procedure while she did not, as she felt that Amiir was suffering too much. Eventually, they both came to the heart-wrenching decision that they had to "let him go".

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I believe that none of us are in a position to judge Mayte and because only they and Amiir's doctors were privy to all of the factors/information regarding Amiir's medical concerns. Had Amiir been born in 1958, like his father, who knows if he would have even lived 6 days; in essence, the advanced nature of modern medicine forced Mayte and into making a decision about how to proceed with his life. Based on what Mayte wrote in her book, as well as interviews from 1996, music, and music videos from the Emancipation era (e.g., "Sex in the Summer", "Let's Have a Baby", "Betcha By Golly Wow" video), among other things, and Mayte loved Amiir unconditionally, beyond what words can describe, as almost all parents feel about their children. Therefore, I believe that their decision to discontinue life support was a decision that they made out of great for their son. However, I wonder if Prince ever regretted that decision to decline the tracheostomy/remove life support, especially since Amiir ended up being their only child (besides the baby that died via miscarriage).

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I can only imagine how regretting or second-guessing a decision to remove life support from your child might eat up a person inside. And it would not surprise me at all if grief over Amiir's death played a role in Prince's death at age 57.

I think about that too. I also thought about if they had regrets of not being there by his side when they removed life support and then when he died. I don't understand why they wouldn't have been there. The little one had a lot of serious issues. Not only with needing a trach to help him breathe but didn't she say he had a colostomy. I also think they both may have had regrets of giving up so easily after losing Amiir and one failed pregnancy. I think their chances were probably good for having a healthy baby if they'd held it together and saw a specialist.

amethyst68 said:

WALK IN SAND (2010)

After a long journey, the final mile

Wish every walk together all the while

Who is the woman whom he is holding? (I don't think it's Mayte.) This photo is confusing to me, I'm not sure what the point of it is, other than possibly to play with new photo-editing technology. It's creative, but I just don't get it. (I was born in 1986, by the way.)

benni said:

206Michelle said:

I don't know who the woman is that he's holding. However, I'm posting this photo on this thread because it's from the Emancipation era and he's wearing his wedding ring.

Source: http://prince.org/msg/7/425105

Since Prince's passing SO MANY new, unseen photos!!!! Post them here!!!

(p. 63, reply #1883 (http://prince.org/msg/7/425105?&pg=63)

They actually sold this in a set of 8x10s from one of his websites. I have this one and a couple of others that I had ordered from the site back then.

206Michelle said:

Who is the woman whom he is holding? (I don't think it's Mayte.) This photo is confusing to me, I'm not sure what the point of it is, other than possibly to play with new photo-editing technology. It's creative, but I just don't get it. (I was born in 1986, by the way.)

benni said:

They actually sold this in a set of 8x10s from one of his websites. I have this one and a couple of others that I had ordered from the site back then.

Steve Parke mentions this photo in his book. It's not Mayte.

amethyst68 said:

WALK IN SAND (2010)

After a long journey, the final mile

Wish every walk together all the while

After a mild labor, we both smile

All of the battles that we lost, both of us in denial

‘Cause nothing’s better than to walk in sand

Hand in hand with you

Nothing’s better than to walk in sand

Hand-in-hand with you

Another sun is rising

To bed with no delay

The both of us go despising Not enough time to play

Memories come and then they go Somewhere far away

Why can’t we just get lost together

And spend each and every day, doing it

Nothing’s better than to walk in sand

Hand-in-hand with you

Nothing’s better than to walk in sand

After a long journey, the final mile

Wish every walk together all the while

After a mild labor, we both smile

All of the battles that we lost, both of us in denial

‘Cause nothing’s better than to walk in sand

Hand in hand with you

Nothing’s better than to walk in sand

Hand-in-hand with you

Another sun is rising

To bed with no delay

The both of us go despising Not enough time to play

Memories come and then they go Somewhere far away

Why can’t we just get lost together

And spend each and every day, doing it

Nothing’s better than to walk in sand

Hand-in-hand with you

Nothing’s better than to walk in sand

I've often wondered who that song was about.Interesting lyrics in light of what happened with he and Mayte.

My understanding is that this photo is from the 7 video shoot, or something like that, so I'm thinking she's 18 or 19. It's definitely album -related.

malbena said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

dedicated to the photography and songs that Prince & Mayte inspired ...
so i made a thread just dedicated to her.







** MODERATORS NOTE **

It is an appreciation thread. Not a de-Appreciation thread. So let it be what the OP intended. Thank you. There are other threads to talk about what you don't like. Any further attempts to derail the thread will result in a suspension. Create your own 'My Issues With Mayte' thread.

ORG M1 fans vs M2 fans...what is the issue?
http://prince.org/msg/3/452393

[/ My, how young Mayte is on this picture???

pinkcashmere23 said:

amethyst68 said:

WALK IN SAND (2010)

After a long journey, the final mile

Wish every walk together all the while

After a mild labor, we both smile

All of the battles that we lost, both of us in denial

‘Cause nothing’s better than to walk in sand

Hand in hand with you

Nothing’s better than to walk in sand

Hand-in-hand with you

Another sun is rising

To bed with no delay

The both of us go despising Not enough time to play

Memories come and then they go Somewhere far away

Why can’t we just get lost together

And spend each and every day, doing it

Nothing’s better than to walk in sand

Hand-in-hand with you

Nothing’s better than to walk in sand

After a long journey, the final mile

Wish every walk together all the while

After a mild labor, we both smile

All of the battles that we lost, both of us in denial

‘Cause nothing’s better than to walk in sand

Hand in hand with you

Nothing’s better than to walk in sand

Hand-in-hand with you

Another sun is rising

To bed with no delay

The both of us go despising Not enough time to play

Memories come and then they go Somewhere far away

Why can’t we just get lost together

And spend each and every day, doing it

Nothing’s better than to walk in sand

Hand-in-hand with you

Nothing’s better than to walk in sand

I've often wondered who that song was about.Interesting lyrics in light of what happened with he and Mayte.

Someone told me recently that there was a mural in their bedroom in Spain of them walking hand and hand in the sand towards the pyramids.

purplefam99 said:

amethyst68 said:

Oh wow

Wow!!!! I have never seen those quotes before. perhaps he feels he only Ever had one soulmate and that was Mayte. Beautiful. And what Barbarella says is pretty revealing too. Thx for posting!

Someone commented that he wore his heart on his sleeve when it came to Mayte and I believe that to be true.

amethyst68 said:

WALK IN SAND (2010)

After a long journey, the final mile

Wish every walk together all the while

After a mild labor, we both smile

All of the battles that we lost, both of us in denial

‘Cause nothing’s better than to walk in sand

Hand in hand with you

Nothing’s better than to walk in sand

Hand-in-hand with you

Another sun is rising

To bed with no delay

The both of us go despising Not enough time to play

Memories come and then they go Somewhere far away

Why can’t we just get lost together

And spend each and every day, doing it

Nothing’s better than to walk in sand

Hand-in-hand with you

Nothing’s better than to walk in sand

After a long journey, the final mile

Wish every walk together all the while

After a mild labor, we both smile

All of the battles that we lost, both of us in denial

‘Cause nothing’s better than to walk in sand

Hand in hand with you

Nothing’s better than to walk in sand

Hand-in-hand with you

Another sun is rising

To bed with no delay

The both of us go despising Not enough time to play

Memories come and then they go Somewhere far away

Why can’t we just get lost together

And spend each and every day, doing it

Nothing’s better than to walk in sand

Hand-in-hand with you

Nothing’s better than to walk in sand

So once I saw this post, I immediately go to Tidal and play "Walk in Sand". (I had 20Ten dowloaded.) I'm sure I've heard the song before, maybe only once or twice. Anyhow, I think the lyrics you posted are missing some lines, or there are two versions of the song.

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"Walk In Sand"

(Source: https://www.azlyrics.com/...sand.html)

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amethyst68, Given the photo you posted, with Prince Charles, It's so coincidental that one of the verses missing from the lyrics you posted was this:

We have danced with royalty
And pimps of the like
You can't please everybody
But such is a life

[Edited because I posted the wrong verse/stanza]

[Edited 3/17/18 11:46am]

206Michelle said:

amethyst68 said:

WALK IN SAND (2010)

After a long journey, the final mile

Wish every walk together all the while

After a mild labor, we both smile

All of the battles that we lost, both of us in denial

‘Cause nothing’s better than to walk in sand

Hand in hand with you

Nothing’s better than to walk in sand

Hand-in-hand with you

Another sun is rising

To bed with no delay

The both of us go despising Not enough time to play

Memories come and then they go Somewhere far away

Why can’t we just get lost together

And spend each and every day, doing it

Nothing’s better than to walk in sand

Hand-in-hand with you

Nothing’s better than to walk in sand

After a long journey, the final mile

Wish every walk together all the while

After a mild labor, we both smile

All of the battles that we lost, both of us in denial

‘Cause nothing’s better than to walk in sand

Hand in hand with you

Nothing’s better than to walk in sand

Hand-in-hand with you

Another sun is rising

To bed with no delay

The both of us go despising Not enough time to play

Memories come and then they go Somewhere far away

Why can’t we just get lost together

And spend each and every day, doing it

Nothing’s better than to walk in sand

Hand-in-hand with you

Nothing’s better than to walk in sand

So once I saw this post, I immediately go to Tidal and play "Walk in Sand". (I had 20Ten dowloaded.) I'm sure I've heard the song before, maybe only once or twice. Anyhow, I think the lyrics you posted are missing some lines, or there are two versions of the song.

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"Walk In Sand"

After a long journey, the final mile
Wish that we walk together all the while
After a mild labor, we both smile
All of the battles that we lost, both of us in denial

'Cause nothing's better than to walk in sand
Hand in hand with you
Nothing's better than to walk in sand
Hand in hand with you

Another sun is rising
To bed with no delay
The both of us go despising
Not enough time to play

Memories come and then they go
Somewhere far away
Why can't we just get lost together
And spend each and every day doing it?

Nothing's better than to walk in sand
Hand in hand with you
Nothing's better than to walk in sand
Hand in hand with you

Walk in sand

We have danced with royalty
And pimps of the like
You can't please everybody
But such is a life

If there was only one thing
In this world that were true
Nothing's better in this world
Than to walk in sand with you

Nothing's better than to walk in sand
Hand in hand with you
Nothing's better than to walk in sand
Hand in hand with you

Nothing's better than to walk in sand
Hand in hand with you
Nothing's better than to walk in sand
Hand in hand with you

Nothing's better than to walk in sand
Hand in hand with you
Nothing's better than to walk in sand
Hand in hand with you

(Source: https://www.azlyrics.com/...sand.html)

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amethyst68, Given the photo you posted, with Prince Charles, It's so coincidental that one of the verses missing from the lyrics you posted was this:

Nothing's better than to walk in sand
Hand in hand with you
Nothing's better than to walk in sand
Hand in hand with you

Thank you! I posted the lyrics without even reading through them.

amethyst68 said:

I was looking 4 this!!! This is 1 of my favourite songs from Emancipation...it's so heartfelt, and gorgeous, and sexy!

amethyst68 said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

I've often wondered who that song was about.Interesting lyrics in light of what happened with he and Mayte.

Someone told me recently that there was a mural in their bedroom in Spain of them walking hand and hand in the sand towards the pyramids.

Oh wow. That's interesting!

Friend, Lover, Sister, Mother/Wife

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Source: https://www.pinterest.com...561730971/

206Michelle said:

Friend, Lover, Sister, Mother/Wife

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Source: https://www.pinterest.com...561730971/

I was just about to post the lyrics for this song. In this song, he repeats Te Amo, Te Amo.

"Teacher (teacher), healer (healer), feeler (feeler), sight 4 sore eyes
(Let me look at your eyes - U're so pretty)
Oh, yes U are, baby
(Ooh my) Don't U know U're my friend, my lover, my sister, love of my life (mother/wife)
Yeah, baby, yes U are

["Te amo" is "I love U"]
(Ooh my) Friend (te amo), lover (te amo), sister (te amo), mother/wife
(Hug me, hug me, hug me baby, U are my life)
(I'll stay with U 4ever) [x2]
Till death do us part, baby (Yes sir!)
Air (te amo), food (te amo), water (te amo), love (love of my life)
U are the only, only love of my life"

This led me to believe "Te Amo Corazon" has to be directed to her as well.

amethyst68 said:

206Michelle said:

Who is the woman whom he is holding? (I don't think it's Mayte.) This photo is confusing to me, I'm not sure what the point of it is, other than possibly to play with new photo-editing technology. It's creative, but I just don't get it. (I was born in 1986, by the way.)

Steve Parke mentions this photo in his book. It's not Mayte.

Thanks for the clarificaiton. Steve Parke's book is on my list. I got the Afhsin Shahidi one for Christmas. I only have but so much money....

206Michelle said:

amethyst68 said:

206Michelle said:

Friend, Lover, Sister, Mother/Wife

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Source: https://www.pinterest.com...561730971/

I was just about to post the lyrics for this song. In this song, he repeats Te Amo, Te Amo.

"Teacher (teacher), healer (healer), feeler (feeler), sight 4 sore eyes
(Let me look at your eyes - U're so pretty)
Oh, yes U are, baby
(Ooh my) Don't U know U're my friend, my lover, my sister, love of my life (mother/wife)
Yeah, baby, yes U are

["Te amo" is "I love U"]
(Ooh my) Friend (te amo), lover (te amo), sister (te amo), mother/wife
(Hug me, hug me, hug me baby, U are my life)
(I'll stay with U 4ever) [x2]
Till death do us part, baby (Yes sir!)
Air (te amo), food (te amo), water (te amo), love (love of my life)
U are the only, only love of my life"

This led me to believe "Te Amo Corazon" has to be directed to her as well.

I'm thinking that he says "Te Amo" in FLSMW because Mayte's native language is Spanish. I suspect that "Te Amo Corazon" may be about Mani due to the timing of its release and some of the lyrics ("At 42,000 feet above the sea, dust of the earth and the knowledge tree"). I could be wrong, though.

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What is unique about some of the songs he wrote for Mayte, is he makes it very clear that he wrote them for her. There are endless debates on the org about whom is the subject of songs like The Beautiful Ones and Adore. However, there is no debating about whom he wrote FLSMW, The Holy River, Let's Have a Baby, The One, The Morning Papers; they are all about Mayte. If he didn't make it clear in the song that she was the subject, it's somewhere in the liner notes, in an interview, in their wedding program, or in the music video. People can say what they want to say abou her. However, the deep love Prince had for Mayte cannot be denied.

amethyst68 said:

purplefam99 said:

amethyst68 said: Wow!!!! I have never seen those quotes before. perhaps he feels he only Ever had one soulmate and that was Mayte. Beautiful. And what Barbarella says is pretty revealing too. Thx for posting!

Someone commented that he wore his heart on his sleeve when it came to Mayte and I believe that to be true.

That someone was XxAxX.

purplefam99 said:

206Michelle said:

Friend, Lover, Sister, Mother/Wife

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Source: https://www.pinterest.com...561730971/

Does anyone gander why it is mother/wife, instead of mother, wife?

Here are my thoughts on the issue. In spite of his penchant for pushing sexual boundaries and having relationships with many women, I think that there was a part of Prince deep down that was quite old school regarding his views about family. It seems that he was very intentional about waiting to marry before having children, perhaps because he felt that marriage should come before having children, which would make sense given his Christian upbringing. So my interpretation is that marriage and children went together for him; the woman who was his wife would also be the mother of his children. And only a woman whom he felt would be a good mother could be his wife. That woman was Mayte.

[Edited 3/12/18 21:20pm]

206Michelle said:

purplefam99 said:

206Michelle said: Does anyone gander why it is mother/wife, instead of mother, wife?

Here are my thoughts on the issue. In spite of his penchant for pushing sexual boundaries and having relationships with many women, I think that there was a part of Prince deep down that was quite old school regarding his views about family. It seems that he was very intentional about waiting to marry before having children, perhaps because he felt that marriage should come before having children, which would make sense given his Christian upbringing. So my interpretation is that marriage and children went together for him; the woman who was his wife would also be the mother of his children. And only a woman whom he felt would be a good mother could be his wife. That woman was Mayte.

[Edited 3/12/18 21:16pm]

I always thought these were the things she meant to him. I remember he said in an interview, she mothered him. But it still doesn't explain why he used "mother/wife."

amethyst68 said:

206Michelle said:

Here are my thoughts on the issue. In spite of his penchant for pushing sexual boundaries and having relationships with many women, I think that there was a part of Prince deep down that was quite old school regarding his views about family. It seems that he was very intentional about waiting to marry before having children, perhaps because he felt that marriage should come before having children, which would make sense given his Christian upbringing. So my interpretation is that marriage and children went together for him; the woman who was his wife would also be the mother of his children. And only a woman whom he felt would be a good mother could be his wife. That woman was Mayte.

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I always thought these were the things she meant to him. I remember he said in an interview, she mothered him. But it still doesn't explain why he used "mother/wife."

In Mayte's book, she reproduces a letter that wrote her. One of the lines he wrote in the letter was something like "If they're not your babies, I ain't havin' none!" (I will check on that tomorrow and edit this post. In the meantime, I need to go to bed because it is way past my bedtime.)

EDIT:

Hopefully, this isn't copyright infringement, but wrote the following to Mayte in a letter, just before the release of her album Child of the Sun (as reproduced in The Most Beautiful, p. 179)

"No one has ever or will ever get close 2 my soul the way u have. Other women want my babies. just find it funny! My future's all arranged. If they're not your babies, ain't havin' none! wouldn't want 'em. 'cuz they were never supposed 2 be here!"

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206Michelle said:

amethyst68 said:

I always thought these were the things she meant to him. I remember he said in an interview, she mothered him. But it still doesn't explain why he used "mother/wife."

In Mayte's book, she reporduces a letter that wrote her. One of the lines he wrote in the letter was something like "If they're not your babies, I ain't havin' none!" (I will check on that tomorrow and edit this post. In the meantime, I need to go to bed because it is way past my bedtime.)

Yes. He did say that in a letter to her.

Sleep well...

Emancipation album booklet. There's more

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206Michelle said: