ThatWhiteDude said:

XxAxX said:

kay i've been thinking about this for a coupla days now. M2 is some straight-up, hardcore mover. while the rest of us were reeling with grief and shock she was thinking ahead and making moves on Prince's intellectual property through the slyest of all sly moves. bringing product to the market under this stolen mark is a balls out cold-hearted move. wonder if she still had keys to the Park and does she know anyone who sells tainted fentanyl

Isn't that a bit far fetched? Ya know, Mani killing Prince?

sorry i accidentally deleted your orgnote. it said what?

XxAxX said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

XxAxX said: Isn't that a bit far fetched? Ya know, Mani killing Prince?

sorry i accidentally deleted your orgnote. it said what?

I said, you actually got a good point saying that IF Mani poisoned him, she wouldn't be the first suspect. Something like that. And didn't someone say that IF someone killed Prince, it probably was a woman?

Now, I don't think he got murdered, there's no evidence for that. I mean, yeah if you look closely, literally everyone would have a motive for it, but there's no evidence. I don't even believe that they find the person who gave him these illicit pills.

I believe that it was an accident, he simply didn't know what he's taking and he was one of the unlucky people in the USA. I mean, look at how many people die because of the fentanyl crisis.

amethyst68 said:

Zannaloaf said:

When do people here have proof of much of anything? Just conjecture and conspiracy becasue, apparently, it is better than doing something productive.

There is no conjecture. There is no conspiracy. There is proof in Minnesota court records.

The conjecture and conspiracy is the "why" - which no one here knows.

amethyst68 said:

laurarichardson said:

M1 name does not appear on any tax forms for L4OA. I am sure her name was removed after they divorced. You realize that these are tax documents. As far as the trademark the estate did challege M2 we just cannot tell what is going on right now. For all we know Omarr may have convienced Comerica to drop it but the estate did what it was suppose to do and that was to challege her.

Please stop making up this fairy tale that this man cared about this women after they divorced. We have not seen one pices of evidence of any interaction between them that was pleasant. M1 has not produced any evidence and seems to have forgoten about her own comments on that T.V. show.

I will make a prediction that this nonsense will be still be going on 10 years from now and we still will not see any evidence that she was involved in his life after they divoced.

If you don’t know what you’re talking about, just ask. I will gladly share the information I have. But don’t come in here accusing me of lying because you’re ignorant of facts. I have no reason to make up stories for the hell of it.

Why don't you share it them because we have all seen the tax docs from 2007 and her name is not on them. She is not listed as a President or Vice President. Holding on to some old document from before they divorced means nothing if she was removed and she would have to explain how she can still be an officer if her name is not on the tax forms.

These are facts. This is no different then her babbling about how she was in his will as if the same will would still be around 20 years later and one wife later.

XxAxX said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

XxAxX said: Isn't that a bit far fetched? Ya know, Mani killing Prince?

sure it is. but imagine being of the mindset to step up and grab what you can in the most unrighteous of ways, like she so obviously did. says a lot about her character. things that make you go hmmmm. let's not forget how Prince dissed her. knocking down the house, shutting eric benet out of that concertas he was rumored to have done http://prince.org/msg/7/352801 and so on. let's not forget her nasty FB comment about charlie sheen and prince. http://prince.org/msg/7/353953 the list goes on. ain't no fury like a woman scorned, baby. sure it's pure speculation but you know they say poison is a woman's weapon? how hard would it be to slap a fentanyl patch on someone totally unsuspecting? yeah. ugly thoughts but when i read about this these things just come to mind. i likely watch too many movies with bad plots so it could be my imagination is twisted, but how sweet it was of M2 to give M1 a call to tell her the news as well. such a good friend. such a good wife never you mind. pay no attention to me and my murder mystery ramblings

[Edited 1/18/18 19:11pm]

yes. please pay no attention to the crazy.

ThatWhiteDude said:

XxAxX said:

sorry i accidentally deleted your orgnote. it said what?

I said, you actually got a good point saying that IF Mani poisoned him, she wouldn't be the first suspect. Something like that. And didn't someone say that IF someone killed Prince, it probably was a woman?

Now, I don't think he got murdered, there's no evidence for that. I mean, yeah if you look closely, literally everyone would have a motive for it, but there's no evidence. I don't even believe that they find the person who gave him these illicit pills.

I believe that it was an accident, he simply didn't know what he's taking and he was one of the unlucky people in the USA. I mean, look at how many people die because of the fentanyl crisis.

M2 did not posion him she just sat back and waited for an opportunity to present itself. Stories have been going around for years that she screwed up some of his business and then after they divorced she wanted him to continue to finance her lifestyle despite the fact that she had access to a bank account and a business he funded.

Who cannot see what her deal is? This women was a mistress. What does that tell you about her?

laurarichardson said:

amethyst68 said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

laurarichardson said:

M2 did not posion him she just sat back and waited for an opportunity to present itself. Stories have been going around for years that she screwed up some of his business and then after they divorced she wanted him to continue to finance her lifestyle despite the fact that she had access to a bank account and a business he funded.

Who cannot see what her deal is? This women was a mistress. What does that tell you about her?

I never said she killed him. She comes off as an opportunist.

She is an opportunist.

ThatWhiteDude said:

XxAxX said:

sorry i accidentally deleted your orgnote. it said what?

I said, you actually got a good point saying that IF Mani poisoned him, she wouldn't be the first suspect. Something like that. And didn't someone say that IF someone killed Prince, it probably was a woman?

Now, I don't think he got murdered, there's no evidence for that. I mean, yeah if you look closely, literally everyone would have a motive for it, but there's no evidence. I don't even believe that they find the person who gave him these illicit pills.

I believe that it was an accident, he simply didn't know what he's taking and he was one of the unlucky people in the USA. I mean, look at how many people die because of the fentanyl crisis.

honestly, i think it was an accident too. imo prince became addicted to painkillers due to his refusal to have a hip replacement surgery based on the JW aversion to blood transfusions. my father had two hip replacement surgeries and my older brother has had one. so i know without the surgery this condition is utterly debilitating and excrutiatingly painful, as in one cannot walk due to pain. imo you are correct as to we'll never find out who sold him the tainted fentanyl.

i guess the real issue is that i'm immature enough to prefer being angry at someone instead of grieving -for me anger is always better than sadness. i still really miss prince's presence here on earth. i shouldn't have been so snarky at M2 in my post above, even if i do feel that she took advantage of his death in a way i personally found offensive. thank you for talking me off that ledge hey.

Zannaloaf said:

XxAxX said:

sure it is. but imagine being of the mindset to step up and grab what you can in the most unrighteous of ways, like she so obviously did. says a lot about her character. things that make you go hmmmm. let's not forget how Prince dissed her. knocking down the house, shutting eric benet out of that concertas he was rumored to have done http://prince.org/msg/7/352801 and so on. let's not forget her nasty FB comment about charlie sheen and prince. http://prince.org/msg/7/353953 the list goes on. ain't no fury like a woman scorned, baby. sure it's pure speculation but you know they say poison is a woman's weapon? how hard would it be to slap a fentanyl patch on someone totally unsuspecting? yeah. ugly thoughts but when i read about this these things just come to mind. i likely watch too many movies with bad plots so it could be my imagination is twisted, but how sweet it was of M2 to give M1 a call to tell her the news as well. such a good friend. such a good wife never you mind. pay no attention to me and my murder mystery ramblings

[Edited 1/18/18 19:11pm]

yes. please pay no attention to the crazy.

sorry about that. i stand corrected

XxAxX said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

I said, you actually got a good point saying that IF Mani poisoned him, she wouldn't be the first suspect. Something like that. And didn't someone say that IF someone killed Prince, it probably was a woman?

Now, I don't think he got murdered, there's no evidence for that. I mean, yeah if you look closely, literally everyone would have a motive for it, but there's no evidence. I don't even believe that they find the person who gave him these illicit pills.

I believe that it was an accident, he simply didn't know what he's taking and he was one of the unlucky people in the USA. I mean, look at how many people die because of the fentanyl crisis.

honestly, i think it was an accident too. imo prince became addicted to painkillers due to his refusal to have a hip replacement surgery based on the JW aversion to blood transfusions. my father had two hip replacement surgeries and my older brother has had one. so i know without the surgery this condition is utterly debilitating and excrutiatingly painful, as in one cannot walk due to pain. imo you are correct as to we'll never find out who sold him the tainted fentanyl.

i guess the real issue is that i'm immature enough to prefer being angry at someone instead of grieving -for me anger is always better than sadness. i still really miss prince's presence here on earth. i shouldn't have been so snarky at M2 in my post above, even if i do feel that she took advantage of his death in a way i personally found offensive. thank you for talking me off that ledge hey.

I totally agree with the bolded, I try to get angry before I allow myself to really grieve. And no need to say thank you Dude, or Dudette.

And yes Mani took the opportunity right after he died....so yeah, says a lot about her character

XxAxX said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

I said, you actually got a good point saying that IF Mani poisoned him, she wouldn't be the first suspect. Something like that. And didn't someone say that IF someone killed Prince, it probably was a woman?

Now, I don't think he got murdered, there's no evidence for that. I mean, yeah if you look closely, literally everyone would have a motive for it, but there's no evidence. I don't even believe that they find the person who gave him these illicit pills.

I believe that it was an accident, he simply didn't know what he's taking and he was one of the unlucky people in the USA. I mean, look at how many people die because of the fentanyl crisis.

honestly, i think it was an accident too. imo prince became addicted to painkillers due to his refusal to have a hip replacement surgery based on the JW aversion to blood transfusions. my father had two hip replacement surgeries and my older brother has had one. so i know without the surgery this condition is utterly debilitating and excrutiatingly painful, as in one cannot walk due to pain. imo you are correct as to we'll never find out who sold him the tainted fentanyl.

i guess the real issue is that i'm immature enough to prefer being angry at someone instead of grieving -for me anger is always better than sadness. i still really miss prince's presence here on earth. i shouldn't have been so snarky at M2 in my post above, even if i do feel that she took advantage of his death in a way i personally found offensive. thank you for talking me off that ledge hey.

Sorry the JW say they do not prevent people from having surgery and you can use your own blood for transfusions. Several people have said that he had hip surgery not replacement. I know it is hard to believe but maybe everything that could be done was done and he had no choice but to take meds. I mean if he refused to have any sort of replacment he would not have been walking.

laurarichardson said:

XxAxX said:

honestly, i think it was an accident too. imo prince became addicted to painkillers due to his refusal to have a hip replacement surgery based on the JW aversion to blood transfusions. my father had two hip replacement surgeries and my older brother has had one. so i know without the surgery this condition is utterly debilitating and excrutiatingly painful, as in one cannot walk due to pain. imo you are correct as to we'll never find out who sold him the tainted fentanyl.

i guess the real issue is that i'm immature enough to prefer being angry at someone instead of grieving -for me anger is always better than sadness. i still really miss prince's presence here on earth. i shouldn't have been so snarky at M2 in my post above, even if i do feel that she took advantage of his death in a way i personally found offensive. thank you for talking me off that ledge hey.

Sorry the JW say they do not prevent people from having surgery and you can use your own blood for transfusions. Several people have said that he had hip surgery not replacement. I know it is hard to believe but maybe everything that could be done was done and he had no choice but to take meds. I mean if he refused to have any sort of replacment he would not have been walking.

And I also believe that even if they would prevent people from having surgery, Prince wouldn't have done it, since he was against such things before he even converted. No one could stop Prince from doing things and no one could've make him do things either. Prince only ever did what he wanted to do.

ThatWhiteDude said:

laurarichardson said:

Sorry the JW say they do not prevent people from having surgery and you can use your own blood for transfusions. Several people have said that he had hip surgery not replacement. I know it is hard to believe but maybe everything that could be done was done and he had no choice but to take meds. I mean if he refused to have any sort of replacment he would not have been walking.

And I also believe that even if they would prevent people from having surgery, Prince wouldn't have done it, since he was against such things before he even converted. No one could stop Prince from doing things and no one could've make him do things either. Prince only ever did what he wanted to do.

Well a few people said he had a hip procedure and perhaps he could have had some other procedure done but I really think he would not have been walking at all if he really needed a replacment. Sometimes these procedures do not go well and their is nothing to be done but take meds.

Arithitis for instance can put you in a wheelchair and all they can do is give you meds.

laurarichardson said:

amethyst68 said:

The facts are out there if only you looked for it. No one, especially me, has any reason to make up stories. I guess that’s what you’re used to seeing. There are several sources but this is one just shared with me. Look at the last 3 pages of the document http://www.mncourts.gov/m...6,-and.pdf

Were these Exhibits recently unsealed?

I dont remember seeing these before.

The Exhibit is an email dated September 1, 2016.

It states the issues surrounding the charity is complex and the records sparse.

In November 1996 a non-profit corporation was created named Love for One Another Charities.

The Directors of the Corporation were P, M1 and Kirk.

They cannot find documents that shows this was ever modified.

In 2008 an attorney created L4OA LLC under the Corporation.

Cousins is listed on some of the LLC documents as Manager.

It states the Love for One Another Charities was run properly until 2007.

Then crazy things happened.

$8.2 mil was transferred from one account to another account.

The new account listed Cousin's Florida address.

The tax exempt status was revoked in 2012 for non-filing of income tax returns.

The sole assets of the Corporation are 3 parcels of property.

They had requested the 70 boxes from Cousins.

What happened to the $8.2 mil?

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

amethyst68 said:

The facts are out there if only you looked for it. No one, especially me, has any reason to make up stories. I guess that’s what you’re used to seeing. There are several sources but this is one just shared with me. Look at the last 3 pages of the document http://www.mncourts.gov/m...6,-and.pdf

Were these Exhibits recently unsealed?

I dont remember seeing these before.

The Exhibit is an email dated September 1, 2016.

It states the issues surrounding the charity is complex and the records sparse.

In November 1996 a non-profit corporation was created named Love for One Another Charities.

The Directors of the Corporation were P, M1 and Kirk.

They cannot find documents that shows this was ever modified.

In 2008 an attorney created L4OA LLC under the Corporation.

Cousins is listed on some of the LLC documents as Manager.

It states the Love for One Another Charities was run properly until 2007.

Then crazy things happened.

$8.2 mil was transferred from one account to another account.

The new account listed Cousin's Florida address.

The tax exempt status was revoked in 2012 for non-filing of income tax returns.

The sole assets of the Corporation are 3 parcels of property.

They had requested the 70 boxes from Cousins.

What happened to the $8.2 mil?

The $8.2 million is still in the charities account along with property.

amethyst68 said:

CandyCool said:

amethyst68 said:

CandyCool said:

CandyCool said:

amethyst68 said:

amethyst68 said:

CandyCool said:

amethyst68 said:

amethyst68 said:

CandyCool said:

So you are saying that the divorce records show that Mayte remains a director, right? You do realize that a director is responsible for the correct running of a business or charity. You will have seen the mess as described in the court documents we’ve been discussing (“lack of proper paperwork” as the attorneys so nicely put it)? Are you sure you want the potential fall-out of that for someone whom I assume is your friend? The trademark issue is then also hers to follow-up. That’s gonna bring this board down, “M1 against M2”.

I question the mindset of a woman pursuing a trademark days after Prince’s death. She had nothing to do with the formation of the charitable foundation. It was founded by Prince and Mayte, on Mayte’s birthday at that and in honor of the son they’d just lost. If she was smart, she’d drop it. This will bad for her reputation. [Edited 1/21/18 8:58am]

She is and clearly has been nothing but a blatant opportunists from the start with Prince. It bothers me how people close to him or people who supposedly support Prince (photographers, family, etc) support her as if she was such a great addition to Prince's life. I am an outsider looking in everytime I try not to think negatively something else shady shows up. It reeks and shows nothing positive. It makes me sad for Prince and he is not on earth anymore - it is just sad.

Vashtix said:

amethyst68 said:

Vashtix said:

She is and clearly has been nothing but a blatant opportunists from the start with Prince. It bothers me how people close to him or people who supposedly support Prince (photographers, family, etc) support her as if she was such a great addition to Prince's life. I am an outsider looking in everytime I try not to think negatively something else shady shows up. It reeks and shows nothing positive. It makes me sad for Prince and he is not on earth anymore - it is just sad.

Very few of his associates, especially the close associates, have anything to do with her.

That is good to hear his close associates leave M2 alone.