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If Stevie knew so much, why didn't she help him? He helped her with her drug addiction.

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MMJas said:

Respectfully...

... the fact still is we don't know. Prince had a lot of people around him, yes. Did he trust them? We don't know. Were they true friends? We don't know. How do friendships work at that level? Very differently than for you an me. Nobody truly trusts anyone because there are backstabbers and money opportunistics everywhere, so the person tends to keep to himself/herself, whilst looking outgoing and friendy. Most people he hung with were much younger and new to the circle. People that were in awe of him.

But do you see what I did there? I really don't know either. This is my assumption. That's what I was getting at in the previous post. We do not know the man.

Are you really telling me that not everyone gets married and has kids? That i don't understand what it is to spend time alone? Excuse me? How old do you think I am? 5? Of course not everyone gets married nor has kids! But Prince had two divorces and lost two kids, one of them very dramatically. So yes, I believe that weighed on his mind. I believe that was an issue.
Concerning spending time alone. He spent a lot of time alone alone in PP, according to many people. A lot. And he did so from a very early age. So he was creating. Ok. But it was still alone time, right? His whole alone creative process might have been a form of therapy also. Again, this is an assumption.

Finally, applying his own make up. Didn't you read about his makeup looking pasty and badly applied in later months? When did you ever see Prince not in an immaculate makeup? He started doing it himself. To cut down costs? To avoid having people so much in his face and realizing something was wrong? We don't know. He probably thought he looked good and was done well, but he wasn't. Much like a person under the influence of something that makes an effort and thinks all is perfectly fine, but then there are those visual give aways.

I'll end on this note: he was alone, after overdoseing the week before. Imagine he did have an ilness. Those close to him could surely tell. You can tell when someone is ill, or at least not himself/herself. How come he did not take calls from Sheila E and Apples? These two very important women in his life.

Stevie Nicks might have heard from people in the business about him being addicted, being, ill, not wanting help, wanting to keep the facade (this has always been Prince's MO, ffs!). She has been down that road, so knowing how private Prince was and how much of an advocate for a healthy lifestyle he was, she figured it must have been hell for him.
Prince was a lonely guy,I truly believe that. Life made him that way. It shows in his lyrics, in the way he surrounded himself with people, the younger the better (no questions asked, how he controlled everything he did and everyone. This is my opinion and don't have to appologise for having one, especially being a fan of his from day one. Believe me, I absolutely adore this man.

P.S: You can say he was alone because he did not want anyone around and what Prince wanted, Prince got. He was the boss. He pushed everyone away. People did what they were told. Nobody could make him do anything. Isn't that being alone?

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MMJas: Please calm down. No one said you were 5-years old. Like you said, none of us really know what Prince was feeling or thinking before he died. I never said I knew either.

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I'm sure Prince had plenty of people he did not trust.

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The part about marriage and kids was a response to what you said about him being alone, no children and no wife. All I was saying is that having those things does not necessarily equate to happiness.

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Regarding his makeup. The Piano & Microphone tour was nothing elaborate, so I don't see the need for him to have a professional makeup artist on staff. You seem to think that is a big issue, but I don't.

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I honestly don't know why he didn't accept calls from Apples or Sheila E.

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We have to remember that Prince was also grieving the loss of Denise (Vanity). And a lot of times, when someone is grieving, they really don't feel like picking up the phone and reaching out to people. They need their space and their time alone to grieve.

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Lots of people in the music business hear rumors, but that doesn't make it true.

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A lot of what you said I have to argument with. You seem to be going off on tangents. Yes, Prince was a single man and spent time alone. I don't see anything odd with that.

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We all have our own point of view, and I respect yours.

No need for us to go around in circles.

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LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

laurarichardson said:

Yes, she knows things about Prince's situation that we do not know so she could know of what she speaks. To dismiss what she has to say is taking on the same mindset as the people who write for these stupid tabloids.

I feel she was trying to say something that ended up not translating, and did sound cryptic and odd, and them maybe was advised to not discuss it any more or something. To tell the fans she new he was on the way out for 2 years, and then to later have the cause of death be a drug overdose does not add up for a lot of people, because drug addiction is treatable and not an automatic death sentence. And if he had a terminal illness, for her to continue to let the "drug addict" stuff continue on and on, even after she made the 2 year remark is odd as well. I feel she could still respect his privacy and say there was an underlying condition without saying exactly what it was, just so it all could make even a little more sense...

She could have said he had an underlying condition but that would have really opened the damm floodgates and you have to remember she is not use to dealing with the media so I think what she said came out cryptic but I do not think that was her intention she is just not media savey.

Also the investigation is still going on so it may be best to not put the whole story out yet. I know yesterdy Chazz Prince's cousin said on his Facebook page that information will be coming soon because he received some news about the investigation so, we know the investigation is continuing on.

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Thank you for the real history. Did you notice a decline in Prince's health?

No, I saw him last time 3 months before his death and he looked beautiful as usual, fast on his legs just on the thin side but he usually gained some weight and lose it from time to time so nothing to worry at my eyes. Nobody could tell he had something wrong but it could be..

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