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Reply #30 posted 07/09/17 3:36pm

rogifan

Vashtix said:



cloveringold85 said:


It upsets me to hear Stevie speaking this way about Prince! To say that he was probably "fractured from the neck down?" WTF?? eek mad confused


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She was not close to Prince and is not qualfied to speak about his alleged drug use.


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She was not talking that way in September, 2016:


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http://theinfluence.org/w...out-drugs/




AS time goes on I think different perspectives and realities are setting in; Prince was in pain. He toured for decades.



It hurts to imagine him in pain but clearly he was; he had a hip replacement we now believe . He was 57. It hurts to imagine but I get it . I understand where she is coming from.


She said a lot more than just about him being in physical pain. Especially speculating that he committed suicide.
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Reply #31 posted 07/09/17 3:37pm

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And, WTF with this comment:

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“You’re not married, you don’t have children… you don’t hang out with a bunch of people because you’re really an isolationist.”

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What in the hell does being married, having children have to do with anything?? That is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard in my life!!

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He didn't hang out with people? What??!! eek

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He was an isolationist? What??!! eek

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I love Stevie, but her stupid comments are gettin on my last damn nerve!! When was the last time she "hung out" with Prince??!! confused

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She is so far off-base, I can't even!!!!! mad mad

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Reply #32 posted 07/09/17 3:44pm

precioux

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Precioux, I'm confused. Was the lidocaine found in pills at PP or in his system upon autopsy? If it's the former, it is mysterious. If it's the latter either it was used topically in a cream or gel to ease joint pain or it was part of an IV cocktail. Am I close?




The former-in the pills. If we're going off of what was in his system, he had benzodiazepines as well, which was not in the illicit cocktail.
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Reply #33 posted 07/09/17 3:57pm

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I meant manufacturer in a generic sense (as in person who made and pressed the drugs)

PennyPurple said:

purplerabbithole said:

1 pill with 67 mcg's of fentanyl? That seems unlikely. If 3 mcg's are enough to kill, I don't think even the most careless drug manufacturer would put that much in one pill. I was just reading a VIce article on this epidemic and people have taken those fentanyl laced pills and still survived. And the reports about the bad pills at PP indicate that they were cocktails of fentanyl and other ingredients like lidocaine and other drugs.

That wasn't no drug manufacturer. That was a person making illegal drugs.

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Reply #34 posted 07/09/17 4:28pm

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Do people think Prince was not in pain?

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Of course he had pains.

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Reply #35 posted 07/09/17 4:34pm

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rogifan said:

Vashtix said:

AS time goes on I think different perspectives and realities are setting in; Prince was in pain. He toured for decades.

It hurts to imagine him in pain but clearly he was; he had a hip replacement we now believe . He was 57. It hurts to imagine but I get it . I understand where she is coming from.

She said a lot more than just about him being in physical pain. Especially speculating that he committed suicide.

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I don't know what's wrong with her. She's just hypothetically speaking.

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She should know better than to speak to some british tabloid trash newspaper.

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Reply #36 posted 07/09/17 5:14pm

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cloveringold85 said:

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Agreed. But of ALL people in the show biz, you would think that Stevie would know better than to talk to some british tabloid!! mad

She shouldn't have assumed anything about Prince it was soooo wrong of her. mad

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Reply #37 posted 07/09/17 5:33pm

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how do you any of you khnow that she wasnt in contact with Prince..It wouls have seemed strrange to think the last person he talked to was Will Smith yet........

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Reply #38 posted 07/09/17 5:42pm

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lwr001 said:

how do you any of you khnow that she wasnt in contact with Prince..It wouls have seemed strrange to think the last person he talked to was Will Smith yet........

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It's obvious she's not been in contact with Prince for many years, or she would have stated otherwise.

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Please excuse my anger, but this gets my Irish up! It's just, when shit like this goes to the press, this is what stirs up more controversy and then you have people saying "another drug addict rock star overdoses". Stevie should know better.

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It's just wrong on so many levels to talk this way about Prince when she really has no clue what was going on in his life! She has no first-hand knowledge of anything! Yes, she collaborated with him on her song "Stand Back", and he was an inspiration, but they weren't like best-buddies, ya know?

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I never heard anything else about Will Smith and I have no idea why he would be talking to Prince either. Maybe he just wanted some press time? confused

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Reply #39 posted 07/09/17 5:55pm

rogifan

lwr001 said:

how do you any of you khnow that she wasnt in contact with Prince..It wouls have seemed strrange to think the last person he talked to was Will Smith yet.....


Wouldn’t she have said if she had been?
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Reply #40 posted 07/09/17 7:25pm

lwr001

dont know , i dont have the answer to those questions; nor do you..shrugs

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Reply #41 posted 07/09/17 7:28pm

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She didn't assume anything. She questioned. She literally stated that she wasn't sure but she was starting to think that due to the strength of the drug he was on, the shame he might have felt and the physical pain, that maybe suicide was the cause of his death. How is this worse than his fans (or some semi-insiders) on this site implying that he was perhaps murdered or that he needed help and people who knew him just simply didn't give two shits about his wellbeing at all or in any way. There are parents who watch their kids die from drug addiction and are helpless to stop it. I would hope that they aren't accused of being indifferent (unless those parents were buying the drugs themselves, I don't think that would be a fair assumption at all). Or let's reverse that and think of Prince as a patriach. If your father drank himself to death and you were powerless to stop it, could you be accused of just using your dad for the roof over your head and food in your belly. None of know what happened or all the complexities of the people involved. Stevie didn't claim to either. Her questions about Prince sound compassionate. Suicide and isolationist withdrawal are not the worse things assumed about Prince. His being so unbearable to be around that people would just let him die with no concern whatsoever is a much much worse assumption.

PennyPurple said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Agreed. But of ALL people in the show biz, you would think that Stevie would know better than to talk to some british tabloid!! mad

She shouldn't have assumed anything about Prince it was soooo wrong of her. mad

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[Edited 7/9/17 19:39pm]

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Reply #42 posted 07/09/17 7:29pm

lwr001

there is someting to be said about evangelizing a certain lifetsyle but slowly find yourself dependent on the very thing you hate the most.. No judgement here ..drugs are insidious in every facet

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Reply #43 posted 07/09/17 7:38pm

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I think the police and the medical examiner knows a lot more then Stevie and Stevie doesn't know anymore then we do.

purplerabbithole said:

She didn't assume anything. She questioned. She literally stated that she wasn't sure but she was starting to think that due to the strength of the drug he was on, the shame he might have felt and the physical pain, that maybe suicide was the cause of his death. How is this worse than his fans (or some semi-insiders) on this site implying that he was perhaps murdered or that he needed help and people who knew him just simply didn't give two shits about his wellbeing at all or any way. There are parents who watch their kids die from drug addiction and are helpless to stop it. I would hope that they aren't accused of being indifferent.

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Reply #44 posted 07/09/17 7:41pm

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lwr001 said:

there is someting to be said about evangelizing a certain lifetsyle but slowly find yourself dependent on the very thing you hate the most.. No judgement here ..drugs are insidious in every facet

Prince may have thought addiction couldn't happen to him because he had successfully flouted/evaded other conventional rules and norms in almost every other facet of his life.When you live most of your life being told you're a genius and are surrounded by people who exist to serve you, make you happy and reinforce your purpleness, why shouldn't you think the rules of the universe don't apply to you?

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Reply #45 posted 07/09/17 7:50pm

purplegirl00

purplerabbithole said:

She didn't assume anything. She questioned. She literally stated that she wasn't sure but she was starting to think that due to the strength of the drug he was on, the shame he might have felt and the physical pain, that maybe suicide was the cause of his death. How is this worse than his fans (or some semi-insiders) on this site implying that he was perhaps murdered or that he needed help and people who knew him just simply didn't give two shits about his wellbeing at all or any way. There are parents who watch their kids die from drug addiction and are helpless to stop it. I would hope that they aren't accused of being indifferent.

PennyPurple said:

She shouldn't have assumed anything about Prince it was soooo wrong of her. mad

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The bold really speaks to my thoughts.

I don't understand the outrage about her speculating/ questioning. confused Isn't that what many have done on this board for over a year now? How many death investigation threads did we have here and how many theories have been thrown around- AIDS, cancer, murder, and suicide? One is not better than other, is it? They are all pretty miserable ways to die, no? Her wondering if it was an intentional overdose vs. accidental is not really that far out there due to the sheer amount of medication found in his system. That is what she said. I'm not going to pretend to be an expert because I am not. I won't even say that I know what was in those search warrants because I don't, but I do not think it is outrageous or out of the realm of possibilities to think that Prince did in fact know what he was taking and did it with purpose. He was not and ignorant man and I don't believe he would've taken something without knowing what it was, especially considering it didn't come from a typical pharmacy. I know, it's uncomfortable to think that and even I would rather not, but it's there.

Maybe Prince was in desperate need of relief for physical pain and possibly emotional as well. I listened to the PP Gala concerts a while back and he was clearly emotional and started being candid. For him to overdose twice in a 7 day period is really disturbing. Equally so is the fact that he was alone for the second time. I don't think it's fair to blame this person or that person. We don't know what really went down. It is possible this is how Prince wanted things to be.

Anyway, I believe Stevie was trying to make sense of what happened to Prince using her experiences in the business and the toll it takes on the mind and body. I don't think she's said anything worse than anyone else has at this point. She may not have been close friend to Prince in years, but how many of us here were?

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Reply #46 posted 07/09/17 7:56pm

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luv4u said:

The Mirror is just as bad as the National Enquirer. Boolshyte fake news

Then why not lock it up?

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Reply #47 posted 07/09/17 7:57pm

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Bravo for your candor, courage and clear vision. Now prepared to be attacked for it!

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Reply #48 posted 07/09/17 8:03pm

Bodhitheblackd
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Bravo for your candor, courage and clear vision. Now prepared to be attacked for it!

Oops...obviously meant for Purplegirl 100...

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Reply #49 posted 07/09/17 8:07pm

rogifan

Why are we saying bravo to speculation? confused
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Reply #50 posted 07/09/17 8:18pm

purplegirl00

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Bravo for your candor, courage and clear vision. Now prepared to be attacked for it!

Oops...obviously meant for Purplegirl 100...

Ya, I know it's coming. I don't care. It's my opinion and I own it. As soon as someone mentions the "S" word, all hell breaks loose. It's truly an elephant in the room. Again, I'm not expert on anything nor do I have any proof of anything. I'm just going by observation, but it should be considered along with all the other many theories as a serious one. As it's been pointed out in the other theories, Prince was obviously dealing with something physical and was looking like he aged 30+ years from January to April. He was not well. My heart breaks broken to think of whatever he was dealing with and would NOT judge him, if he did want out to get relief of his suffering. sad

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Reply #51 posted 07/09/17 8:24pm

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rdhull said:

luv4u said:

The Mirror is just as bad as the National Enquirer. Boolshyte fake news

Then why not lock it up?

Why do you want it locked up? It's an interview that Stevie Nicks gave, it's not like it's false news. OMG, you don't like the thread don't post on it. Pretty Simple....but here you are...

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Reply #52 posted 07/09/17 8:27pm

Vashtix

purplegirl00 said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Oops...obviously meant for Purplegirl 100...

Ya, I know it's coming. I don't care. It's my opinion and I own it. As soon as someone mentions the "S" word, all hell breaks loose. It's truly an elephant in the room. Again, I'm not expert on anything nor do I have any proof of anything. I'm just going by observation, but it should be considered along with all the other many theories as a serious one. As it's been pointed out in the other theories, Prince was obviously dealing with something physical and was looking like he aged 30+ years from January to April. He was not well. My heart breaks broken to think of whatever he was dealing with and would NOT judge him, if he did want out to get relief of his suffering. sad

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It is the elephant in the room and thank you for pointing it out.

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Reply #53 posted 07/09/17 10:40pm

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Purplegirl 100...

Ya, I know it's coming. I don't care. It's my opinion and I own it. As soon as someone mentions the "S" word, all hell breaks loose. It's truly an elephant in the room. Again, I'm not expert on anything nor do I have any proof of anything. I'm just going by observation, but it should be considered along with all the other many theories as a serious one. As it's been pointed out in the other theories, Prince was obviously dealing with something physical and was looking like he aged 30+ years from January to April. He was not well. My heart breaks broken to think of whatever he was dealing with and would NOT judge him, if he did want out to get relief of his suffering. sad

I agree with Purplegirl - Prince aged so much in a very short period of time! Looking back at the "SNL 40th Anniversary After Party" - look how good Prince still looked. The date of that was 02/16/2015. If one has followed Prince for years, it is difficult for me to believe or comprehend, that they could not see the "Very Obvious" change for the worse in the appearance of Prince! Everyone in "Prince.org" will have to admit that Prince knew he was a "Sexy, Pretty Boy" from the word go. He walked the walk ~ He talked the talk. He had a zillion pictures made for all of his friends to gaze upon and enjoy for years to come. (This "Org" has devoted how many boards to just posting those "Sexy ~ Handsome ~ Pretty Pictures"????) He said he did not celebrate birthdays, did not count time and for this, he could still look young. (And to himself ~ and to everyone else, "Beautiful"). That was also something he was proud of. He obviously lost that look. I believe he did not wish to continue on with seeing the fast past of how his appearance was deteriorating. Reading what his people, that were close to him, revealed about him SENDING EVERYONE AWAY ~ He demanded his PRIVACY and wanted to BE ALONE. Prince owned his choices. That is all I am going to say about that. We will all still be missing Prince for a long time to come!! No one knows the answers and sorry to report ~ Prince took that mystery with him also!! Prince ALWAYS RULED!! He won again!!
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Reply #54 posted 07/09/17 11:05pm

Misty48

Stevie did nothing wrong, in my opinion. She was just voicing her opinion like so many people have voiced their opinion here! She has had interactions with Prince during his lifetime. That definately makes her knowing Prince better than I. Prince and I never even had the pleasure of meeting one another while he was still on this earth! It is being selfish to condemn Stevie for having an opinion!

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Reply #55 posted 07/09/17 11:38pm

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rogifan said:

Vashtix said:



cloveringold85 said:


It upsets me to hear Stevie speaking this way about Prince! To say that he was probably "fractured from the neck down?" WTF?? eek mad confused


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She was not close to Prince and is not qualfied to speak about his alleged drug use.


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She was not talking that way in September, 2016:


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http://theinfluence.org/w...out-drugs/




AS time goes on I think different perspectives and realities are setting in; Prince was in pain. He toured for decades.



It hurts to imagine him in pain but clearly he was; he had a hip replacement we now believe . He was 57. It hurts to imagine but I get it . I understand where she is coming from.


She said a lot more than just about him being in physical pain. Especially speculating that he committed suicide.


That's the thing. She's really reaching and crossed the line imo. What a stupid thing to suggest publicly. Especially when it's clearly just her rambling on with nothing to back it up. She's not all there anymore after her battle with benzo's. Her comments were Irresponsible and disrespectful and gives the crazies more fuel. He did not do this on purpose. He did not take his life. To suggest otherwise is an insult. P would not do such a thing. Anyone who believes that does not get him at all.
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Reply #56 posted 07/09/17 11:59pm

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sonshine said:

rogifan said:
She said a lot more than just about him being in physical pain. Especially speculating that he committed suicide.
That's the thing. She's really reaching and crossed the line imo. What a stupid thing to suggest publicly. Especially when it's clearly just her rambling on with nothing to back it up. She's not all there anymore after her battle with benzo's. Her comments were Irresponsible and disrespectful and gives the crazies more fuel. He did not do this on purpose. He did not take his life. To suggest otherwise is an insult. P would not do such a thing. Anyone who believes that does not get him at all.


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Reply #57 posted 07/10/17 12:53am

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Stevie Nicks speculating about the circumstances of Prince's death to a British tabloid is no different than Mayte repeating unsubstantiated hearsay about Prince hiding the ashes of their son and giving an interview to People about Prince's alleged drug use knowing the sleazy slant that magazine would use to exploit Prince's death for their financial gain. I love the hypocrisy that excuse of vultures picking apart P's corpse for relevance and money but have righteous indignation with Stevie Nicks. GTFOH!

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Reply #58 posted 07/10/17 3:07am

rogifan

Misty48 said:

Stevie did nothing wrong, in my opinion. She was just voicing her opinion like so many people have voiced their opinion here! She has had interactions with Prince during his lifetime. That definately makes her knowing Prince better than I. Prince and I never even had the pleasure of meeting one another while he was still on this earth! It is being selfish to condemn Stevie for having an opinion!


How did this even come up? And sometimes it’s better to keep your opinions to yourself, especially if you’re speaking to a British tabloid.
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Reply #59 posted 07/10/17 5:05am

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Misty48 said:

Stevie did nothing wrong, in my opinion. She was just voicing her opinion like so many people have voiced their opinion here! She has had interactions with Prince during his lifetime. That definately makes her knowing Prince better than I. Prince and I never even had the pleasure of meeting one another while he was still on this earth! It is being selfish to condemn Stevie for having an opinion!




The difference between Stevie and the fans here is that anything she says will be reported worldwide etc. Due to this she has a greater responsibility than us when speculating. She should know suicude was ruled out and that he was not a user of Fentanyl, that his pills were laced with it. Shes mouthing off about her friend and shown zero sensitivity when doing so. Making him out to he some washed up recluse is wrong! Prince was in the middle if a tour and making music. Just wrong on many levels.
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