SoulAlive said:

as a few of you have pointed out,she is in the music business so she probably hears alot of info and speculation that we don't.Her comments may appear to be insensitive,but I don't think that she meant any harm.

I think that's the assumption, but still nobody else is backing up what she said, I mean what's her face said he had alzehimers isn't she in the business, doesn't she hear rumors too? Must mean she knows whats she's talking about too.

moonsister said:

Stevie being in the business does not mean she knows anything. I don't think she meant harm but at the same time she shoud realize that people will take what she said and use it as fact and twist it all kinds of ways. The death was not ruled as a suicide. We don't know how he felt about not having kids and a wife. Lots of people have both and their life is not dandy do. So having a hit record is going to make everything all dandy? He like to be alone at times, so does many other people . At least she seem to have empathy for him. Why are people upset with Stevie but not upset with Mayte, Wendy, and others who are putting things out there about Prince's death without knowing the facts. People do talk but is the talk correct on what really happened.

laurarichardson said:

Purplestar88 said:

Stevie being in the business does not mean she knows anything. I don't think she meant harm but at the same time she shoud realize that people will take what she said and use it as fact and twist it all kinds of ways. The death was not ruled as a suicide. We don't know how he felt about not having kids and a wife. Lots of people have both and their life is not dandy do. So having a hit record is going to make everything all dandy? He like to be alone at times, so does many other people . At least she seem to have empathy for him. Why are people upset with Stevie but not upset with Mayte, Wendy, and others who are putting things out there about Prince's death without knowing the facts. People do talk but is the talk correct on what really happened.

i guess i could see her point about not having kids in terms of not really worrying about anyone in case of his death. I don't have kids and i have a lot of freedoms that i know i wouldn't if i did. But ya, you don't really have anyone to fight for or to hope for or to watch. of course we don't know how Prince felt, i think it's safe to say that he badly wanted kids though so it is sad.

Has anybody heard if Stevie has made any statements since she said this?

moonsister said:

PennyPurple said:

#1 She's wrong on the fentanyl, he wasn't using fentanyl on purpose.

#2 She's more than likely wrong with being fractured from neck to feet.


#3 She doesn't know the 1st thing if he killed himself or not.

#4 He was able to tour and was doing it with the P&M tour.

#5 He hung out with plenty of people.

#6. Stevie needs to worry about her own, drug riddled life, & stop making assumptions about Prince's.

Penny you seem to be mocking her for her drug addiction, which helps nobody. Your protection of Prince is admirable though.

I'm not mocking her, but she needs to check herself. When she was in rehab didn't Prince give her moral support and even visit her and then turns around and says this stuff about him, that isn't true and hasn't been proved and if she knew what she was talking about she'd know he wasn't a fentanyl user.

WTF??? did you not read the warrants?

Is the US a country that allows people to give drugs to someone else in their own name? Do people honestly think KJ had no idea Prince was injesting "his" pills?

moonsister said:

laurarichardson said:

Sigh, The police would look at the law and see if someone broke it. We know that either Dr.S or Kirk are telling lies. The police are clear in the search warrant that KJ and other associates have given conflicting statements. So they believe someone is telling lies. The police would have looked at all if Prince's medical records because remember he was in the hospital for treatment back in 2014 and 2015. The police would know exactly what Dr. s was treating Prince for and if those meds were given for legitimate medical reasons. The authorities are not screwing around with doctors who are prescribing these RXs so people can just abuse them if Dr. S had no medical reason to give Prince those drugs he would have been charged and his medical license would have been taken away. The police arrest people based on what the DA thinks is a solid case and the judge and jury decide their fate. No DA is going to waste time going after a Dr.for treating a patient with legitimate medical issues just because the Rx was written under someone's else's name. Also we still do not know if KJ even needed the pain pills the doc claims he wrote for Kirk who is saying the pills were not for him but no charges for having his name on meds that he claims were not for him. [Edited 7/11/17 18:01pm]

There is no proof Dr S broke the law. There is no proof Kirk broke the law. Plain and simple.

PeteSilas said:

Purplestar88 said:

Stevie being in the business does not mean she knows anything. I don't think she meant harm but at the same time she shoud realize that people will take what she said and use it as fact and twist it all kinds of ways. The death was not ruled as a suicide. We don't know how he felt about not having kids and a wife. Lots of people have both and their life is not dandy do. So having a hit record is going to make everything all dandy? He like to be alone at times, so does many other people . At least she seem to have empathy for him. Why are people upset with Stevie but not upset with Mayte, Wendy, and others who are putting things out there about Prince's death without knowing the facts. People do talk but is the talk correct on what really happened.

i guess i could see her point about not having kids in terms of not really worrying about anyone in case of his death. I don't have kids and i have a lot of freedoms that i know i wouldn't if i did. But ya, you don't really have anyone to fight for or to hope for or to watch. of course we don't know how Prince felt, i think it's safe to say that he badly wanted kids though so it is sad.

I did not see her statements that. It seem like she was saying that maybe he was not happy because he did not have kids and a wife. How would she know that?

I agree with you 100%. There almost seems to be no real reason why she said this at all. It's over a year already since P passed. There are more than enough of these stories in print and online, why add another? Let the man rest in peace. His musical abilities were off the charts, he was also a human being. To be described as an isolated person, with a drug habit? come on now.

berlinas2k said:

I apologize for adding absolutely nothing to this conversation but somebody needs to tell this has been to shut the F up. Putting bullshit out there like that is done merely for attention. I apologize again but I just had to vent a little. Sickening...

purplerabbithole said:

Please folks let's stay on track abou the topic instead of derailing this thread. Thanks

morningsong said:

PennyPurple said:

She doesn't know anymore than we do. I bet it's been 20+ years since she talked to him.

That's the conclusion I came to after that sentence. Not once has anyone said he had fractures from neck to feet, granted he may have had a few but it seems like a oddball thing to bring up in an interview. But it also show that even celebrities are gabbing about this something fierce.

Are you nuts? She means overall pain and injuries which I'm sure he had. Nearly 60 years olf and a body frame very small, do you honestly think Prince's physical problems were limited to his hips? Feet, back, neck most likely too, imo. Those heels did a lot of damage for sure.

[Edited 7/12/17 2:05am]

rogifan said:

dinnerparty said:

and the more people who speak out on the dangers of addiction the more attention the problem gets, and maybe something will be done about the shady doctors who overprescribe and get unsuspecting people addicted.

People are upset at what Stevie said about a person basically unknown to any of us here, just think if your son or daughter were addicted to drugs, wouldn't you want people not only talking but screaming about the problem?

She is a person with the balls to speak up and risk critisism. You folks with the broken feelings- just WTF really?

Oh for godssake she insinuated that he committed suicide because he was ashamed he had an addiction problem. What evidence does she have to make that claim? Heck we don’t even have anything official that confirms he was an addict. Secondly she gives the impression he was this lonely hermit who had no friends and was basically an invalid. She seems to be coming to this conclusion based on the fact he wasn’t married and didn’t have any (living) children. Seriously? Sorry I don’t see anything in her comments that are about brining to light the problems of addiction.

Read your sentence again. Does it really sound that farfetched to you?
I recently read an interview by this american comedian (will try to find his name) in which he stated that Prince had no friends with him in his last tour, whereas before he used to have many people around. Yes, I believe Prince was addicted, was ashamed for being addicted (blame it on this lousy judgemental society of ours, which he knew all to well), might have taken more cause he simply did not care anymore (who ODs twice in the same week?), was lonely at heart (no wife, no partner, no kids, no close family - see his family now battling for money, etc), was a hermit at heart (reports of him being all by himself at PP abound), and his injuries limited his capacity to perform immensily, i.e. affecting his making a living performing as before, hence the drugs, hence the P&M tour, hence applying his make up himself, hence nobody around him.

moonsister said:

MMJas said:

rogifan said:

dinnerparty said: Oh for godssake she insinuated that he committed suicide because he was ashamed he had an addiction problem. What evidence does she have to make that claim? Heck we don’t even have anything official that confirms he was an addict. Secondly she gives the impression he was this lonely hermit who had no friends and was basically an invalid. She seems to be coming to this conclusion based on the fact he wasn’t married and didn’t have any (living) children. Seriously? Sorry I don’t see anything in her comments that are about brining to light the problems of addiction.

Read your sentence again. Does it really sound that farfetched to you?
I recently read an interview by this american comedian (will try to find his name) in which he stated that Prince had no friends with him in his last tour, whereas before he used to have many people around. Yes, I believe Prince was addicted, was ashamed for being addicted (blame it on this lousy judgemental society of ours, which he knew all to well), might have taken more cause he simply did not care anymore (who ODs twice in the same week?), was lonely at heart (no wife, no partner, no kids, no close family - see his family now battling for money, etc), was a hermit at heart (reports of him being all by himself at PP abound), and his injuries limited his capacity to perform immensily, i.e. affecting his making a living performing as before, hence the drugs, hence the P&M tour, hence applying his make up himself, hence nobody around him.

I think Chris Rock said he did have a lot of people around him on his last tour. It does not sound farfetched but we don't how he felt about these things or why he cut down the people that was around him. She has to be careful of what she is saying because she was not close to him or know what was in his mind to be claiming anything. I know of a lot people who cut down people around them because you can a lot people around and when things get tough you don't see anyone around to help you. I bet all those people that was around him was on payroll and that's why some of them might have been there in the first people. He was getting older and I think naturally he would start doing things differently to some degree. Did his health issues play a role in the changes? Maybe so?

Maybe he also feared making global headlines for being admitted to a drug rehab centre the next day.

If he was in extreme pain and facing the prospect of never touring on his feet again, it's not beyond the realms of possibility.

MMJas said:

rogifan said:

dinnerparty said: Oh for godssake she insinuated that he committed suicide because he was ashamed he had an addiction problem. What evidence does she have to make that claim? Heck we don’t even have anything official that confirms he was an addict. Secondly she gives the impression he was this lonely hermit who had no friends and was basically an invalid. She seems to be coming to this conclusion based on the fact he wasn’t married and didn’t have any (living) children. Seriously? Sorry I don’t see anything in her comments that are about brining to light the problems of addiction.

Read your sentence again. Does it really sound that farfetched to you?
I recently read an interview by this american comedian (will try to find his name) in which he stated that Prince had no friends with him in his last tour, whereas before he used to have many people around. Yes, I believe Prince was addicted, was ashamed for being addicted (blame it on this lousy judgemental society of ours, which he knew all to well), might have taken more cause he simply did not care anymore (who ODs twice in the same week?), was lonely at heart (no wife, no partner, no kids, no close family - see his family now battling for money, etc), was a hermit at heart (reports of him being all by himself at PP abound), and his injuries limited his capacity to perform immensily, i.e. affecting his making a living performing as before, hence the drugs, hence the P&M tour, hence applying his make up himself, hence nobody around him.

Thanks MMJas for emphsizing a reality many here on the Org. are in full-throated denial about; denial, in the words of a sage friend, being 'the strongest human emotion.' Many are so invested in seeing Prince as this genius:musicial lover, businessman...you name it...that they lost track of the real man circa 1985 and willfully chose not to see the creative and physical decline that was playing

out slo-mo in front of our eyes. I'm not saying his struggles with religion, relationships and in the end, drugs, were unusual or other-worldly...but they WERE human. And I don't think many of his fans ever saw him as a human being, and a fragile one at that. I also think this was a big part of his reclusiveness, never being allowed/not knowing how to be a regular human being.

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

MMJas said:

laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

rogifan said:

MMJas said:

Read your sentence again. Does it really sound that farfetched to you?
I recently read an interview by this american comedian (will try to find his name) in which he stated that Prince had no friends with him in his last tour, whereas before he used to have many people around. Yes, I believe Prince was addicted, was ashamed for being addicted (blame it on this lousy judgemental society of ours, which he knew all to well), might have taken more cause he simply did not care anymore (who ODs twice in the same week?), was lonely at heart (no wife, no partner, no kids, no close family - see his family now battling for money, etc), was a hermit at heart (reports of him being all by himself at PP abound), and his injuries limited his capacity to perform immensily, i.e. affecting his making a living performing as before, hence the drugs, hence the P&M tour, hence applying his make up himself, hence nobody around him.

I’m sorry I have no time for someone throwing this out to a British tabloid newspaper. It’s all speculation on her part. Everyone has turned into shrinks now. I’m so sick of the constant psychoanalysis of Prince (the man, not the music) I could vomit.

But THE MAN IS THE MUSIC...Prince said so, "I am music." You are making a distinction without a difference.

laurarichardson said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

Stevie and just about everyone that is responding to this topic, and pretty much all of the media...I know you think there was an underlying illness Because they have a drug narrative in their head planted by the tabloid media who just used sensationalism to get inter clicks. It is obvious that a lot of people who knew him knew he a joint pain problems and to discount that that was really the root cause of his problems with pain pills is ridiculous. These meds can destroy your organs and it is obvious that something occurred to make him accerelrate the use of these drugs. A half a dozen associates have side we do not know the whole story since we know about the drug aspect something else was going on. And I guess I just don't see how people can think it was a simple over dose, on purpose or accident, when his sister said she new he was dying for 2 years

And yes, of course there is also the possibility of there being an ilness that worked as the last straw, on top pf everything else...

Because they have a drug narrative in their head planted by the tabloid media who just used sensationalism to get internet clicks. It is obvious that a lot of people who knew him knew he a joint pain problems and to discount that it was really the root cause of his problems with pain pills is ridiculous.

These meds can destroy your organs and it is obvious that something occurred to make him accerelrate the use of these drugs. A half a dozen associates have side we do not know the whole story since we know about the drug aspect something else was going on.

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

laurarichardson said:

--But who said it was all about drugs. He could have been in some serious pain or dealing with a recurring illness.

Stevie and just about everyone that is responding to this topic, and pretty much all of the media...I know you think there was an underlying illness And I guess I just don't see how people can think it was a simple over dose, on purpose or accident, when his sister said she new he was dying for 2 years

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