MMJas said:

It's her opinion, and it'sd a valid one at that. I love Stevie Nicks, have the upmost respect for her, so I doubt she spoke without thinking. She's in the business and perhaps she knew about Prince's dependency on painkillers like some other artists have also speculated (Kravitz,for one, and the Sheila E was the first to talk about hip pain, like she was paving the way for the painkiller rumours that would surely follow).

Bottom line is we don't know what Prince felt, thought, worried about, etc. We speculate based on songs, apparent moods, interviews, the lot, but we do not know the man. Every person has many sides and Prince probably had many more, being an artist, a creative person exposed to the world, with everything he did scrutinized to the max. So no, we do not know Prince, we do not know if he was indeed depressed in later years due to age issues, health issues, drug issues, and battling deamons like having no children, having no long term partner, etc. People have mentioned his make up looked pasty and overall badly applied. He photoshoped his press photos to an extreme. He continued surrounding himself with young people. And he was doing a tour where he could spend most of the time sitting down. So we could all easily come to the same conclusion as Stevie Nicks and being that she is in the business, is the same age and battled her own drug deamons, I won't be dismissing her opinion any time soon.

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I like Stevie and sure, she is entitled to her own opinion, like everyone else. Thing is, when stuff like that is written in the press, a lot of people tend to believe it's fact. It may be fact, and it may not be fact. That's all.

cloveringold85 said:

PennyPurple said:

Again, I don't think he was on the fentanyl, I don't think he knew it was in those pills, and if someone got them for him, I don't think they knew it either. They just thought is was the normal pill.

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Bingo! That is the point that I keep trying to drive here, but some people don't see it that way.

perhaps because of the inclusion of lidocaine in the 'recipe' made to order...think about it...

PennyPurple said:

I don't think Prince would've said anything like this had Stevie been the one who died.

No matter what, it was wrong of Stevie.

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moonsister said:

laurarichardson said:

Stevie is in the industry she may be telling the truth about Prince being really broken up. I still think people cannot see that his injuries could have been very extensive and pain meds may have been the only option for him. I still believe he was managing these meds for a long time and something happened to make the stituation worsen.

Pain can make you really crazy and he may have already been dealing with depression and other issues on top of joint problems.

He death may not have been a deliberate suicide could have been just not caring anymore if he went to a rehab what would that have done about joint problems for the long haul.

I also think that Dr. S did write that pain med Rx for Prince and the reason he is not in any trouble could be because of what is in Prince' s medical file. I think the authorities know that if Dr. S was seeing Prince for real illness that his writing a pain script even under someone else's name would be seen as doctor being compassionate and thus no one is going to convict the doctor especially when the drugs that Dr. S prescribed did not result in Prince's death.

I see this as the only reason the doctor and KJ not ever being charged with anything.

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The authorities dont look the other way when a doctor breaks a law. Dr S is not charged with a crime because the authorities cannot prove he broke any laws.

Comment deleted - langebleu - moderator.

This compassion nonsense is bullshit and disrepects every ethical doctor.

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Whether Prince had a terminal illness at his time of death is unknown to any of us. He did not die of a terminal illness, he died from illegal Fentanyl. That's what killed him, and nothing else!

She misses him n thinks about him thats whats important ..

SteelPulse1 said:

She misses him n thinks about him thats whats important ..

Well she went a little to far in her comments. And she should've kept her mouth shut.

Maybe shes still in shock,hurt,disbelief n looking for real answers for any closure like most of us .. Sure minding what you say is important but who can Im sure whe just wants to get angry ,shes prob saying im hurting,mad,confused etc maybe n I dont wanna keep quiet about it. I get it, let it all come out .. some of us just weep when thinking about it, I dont know how ppl who knew him can even have words .. the man almost pulled a carrie fischer on a plane .. the scope of his pill getting n hiding was prob huge .. noones talking as if it matters but maybe it does .. he could of died onstage in front of us n that would of been just unimaginable n we cant be angry sad hurt by this .. he said wait a few days before you waste any prayers in some morbid way like im a die up in here mood i mean wtf .. we fans deserve answers

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fractured from his neck to his feet? That's different.

morningsong said:

fractured from his neck to his feet? That's different.

She doesn't know anymore than we do. I bet it's been 20+ years since she talked to him.

PennyPurple said:

morningsong said:

fractured from his neck to his feet? That's different.

She doesn't know anymore than we do. I bet it's been 20+ years since she talked to him.

That's the conclusion I came to after that sentence. Not once has anyone said he had fractures from neck to feet, granted he may have had a few but it seems like a oddball thing to bring up in an interview. But it also show that even celebrities are gabbing about this something fierce.

as a few of you have pointed out,she is in the music business so she probably hears alot of info and speculation that we don't.Her comments may appear to be insensitive,but I don't think that she meant any harm.

I cant imagine living with chronic severe pain daily .. especially if its a losing battle .. must of been hell

a lot of us are going to have to live sick and in pain for part of our lives, just the way it is. All we can do is try to be smart about what we do with our bodies and what we put into it. I don't think drugs is a good answer for most people and situations.

SteelPulse1 said:

I cant imagine living with chronic severe pain daily .. especially if its a losing battle .. must of been hell

A lot of people do, every.single.day. Trust me. My husband is one who does.

PeteSilas said:

a lot of us are going to have to live sick and in pain for part of our lives, just the way it is. All we can do is try to be smart about what we do with our bodies and what we put into it. I don't think drugs is a good answer for most people and situations.

and the more people who speak out on the dangers of addiction the more attention the problem gets, and maybe something will be done about the shady doctors who overprescribe and get unsuspecting people addicted.

People are upset at what Stevie said about a person basically unknown to any of us here, just think if your son or daughter were addicted to drugs, wouldn't you want people not only talking but screaming about the problem?

She is a person with the balls to speak up and risk critisism. You folks with the broken feelings- just WTF really?

morningsong said:

PennyPurple said:

She doesn't know anymore than we do. I bet it's been 20+ years since she talked to him.

That's the conclusion I came to after that sentence. Not once has anyone said he had fractures from neck to feet, granted he may have had a few but it seems like a oddball thing to bring up in an interview. But it also show that even celebrities are gabbing about this something fierce.

fractures, joint pain, chronic pain, whatever. What she is saying is his whole body was probably involved, why get all offended at her choice of words when she clearly is a Prince lover.

the org is wierd, they've always been the most critical entity of Prince but the first to rush to his defense if anyone else does the same. Stevie isn't wondering about anything that many of us here have wondered about. Also, being as she said the young man she knew admonished her once when he went to visit her in the hospital for something or other, so to her, it's probably a huge shock to know he had a drug problem at all. Like us, she's probably struggling to make the pieces fit (and they still don't).

dinnerparty said:

PeteSilas said:

a lot of us are going to have to live sick and in pain for part of our lives, just the way it is. All we can do is try to be smart about what we do with our bodies and what we put into it. I don't think drugs is a good answer for most people and situations.

and the more people who speak out on the dangers of addiction the more attention the problem gets, and maybe something will be done about the shady doctors who overprescribe and get unsuspecting people addicted.

People are upset at what Stevie said about a person basically unknown to any of us here, just think if your son or daughter were addicted to drugs, wouldn't you want people not only talking but screaming about the problem?

She is a person with the balls to speak up and risk critisism. You folks with the broken feelings- just WTF really?

dinnerparty said:

morningsong said:

That's the conclusion I came to after that sentence. Not once has anyone said he had fractures from neck to feet, granted he may have had a few but it seems like a oddball thing to bring up in an interview. But it also show that even celebrities are gabbing about this something fierce.

fractures, joint pain, chronic pain, whatever. What she is saying is his whole body was probably involved, why get all offended at her choice of words when she clearly is a Prince lover.

ya, what do we know, his hips we know about, what about his back? what about his knees and feet? Or even his hands, as i know as a pianist, i'm 48 and my hands are starting to give me problems, and a multi instrumentalist like prince had to have some hand problems. He also didn't seem to ever stop, I'll stop for a couple days, but not resting injury is a sure way to make a minor problem major.

PeteSilas said:

the org is wierd, they've always been the most critical entity of Prince but the first to rush to his defense if anyone else does the same. Stevie isn't wondering about anything that many of us here have wondered about. Also, being as she said the young man she knew admonished her once when he went to visit her in the hospital for something or other, so to her, it's probably a huge shock to know he had a drug problem at all. Like us, she's probably struggling to make the pieces fit (and they still don't).

dinnerparty said:

and the more people who speak out on the dangers of addiction the more attention the problem gets, and maybe something will be done about the shady doctors who overprescribe and get unsuspecting people addicted.

People are upset at what Stevie said about a person basically unknown to any of us here, just think if your son or daughter were addicted to drugs, wouldn't you want people not only talking but screaming about the problem?

She is a person with the balls to speak up and risk critisism. You folks with the broken feelings- just WTF really?

Prince may have for the longest thought he could quit the drugs any time he wanted, just like some of us did with cigarettes for instance. Good for Stevie is all I say, she isnt a politician with perfectly chosen words, just a concerned friend and fellow performer.

PeteSilas said:

dinnerparty said:

fractures, joint pain, chronic pain, whatever. What she is saying is his whole body was probably involved, why get all offended at her choice of words when she clearly is a Prince lover.

ya, what do we know, his hips we know about, what about his back? what about his knees and feet? Or even his hands, as i know as a pianist, i'm 48 and my hands are starting to give me problems, and a multi instrumentalist like prince had to have some hand problems. He also didn't seem to ever stop, I'll stop for a couple days, but not resting injury is a sure way to make a minor problem major.

I dont even want to think about his poor feet, those heels must have been torture.

moonsister said:

PeteSilas said:

ya, what do we know, his hips we know about, what about his back? what about his knees and feet? Or even his hands, as i know as a pianist, i'm 48 and my hands are starting to give me problems, and a multi instrumentalist like prince had to have some hand problems. He also didn't seem to ever stop, I'll stop for a couple days, but not resting injury is a sure way to make a minor problem major.

I dont even want to think about his poor feet, those heels must have been torture.

Everytime I think about those goddamned heels, I wonder what bullshit people must have put him through for being a short misfit to have to resort to going through that much pain. Hell, I can't even wear dress shoes, people sometime chide me for dressing like a bum, but I'm comfortable when I dress like a bum. They have a point that as a performer I shouldn't dress like a bum but i'm not a star so what difference does it make?

dinnerparty said:

PeteSilas said:

dinnerparty said:

PeteSilas said:

a lot of us are going to have to live sick and in pain for part of our lives, just the way it is. All we can do is try to be smart about what we do with our bodies and what we put into it. I don't think drugs is a good answer for most people and situations.

and the more people who speak out on the dangers of addiction the more attention the problem gets, and maybe something will be done about the shady doctors who overprescribe and get unsuspecting people addicted.

People are upset at what Stevie said about a person basically unknown to any of us here, just think if your son or daughter were addicted to drugs, wouldn't you want people not only talking but screaming about the problem?

She is a person with the balls to speak up and risk critisism. You folks with the broken feelings- just WTF really?

#1 She's wrong on the fentanyl, he wasn't using fentanyl on purpose.

#2 She's more than likely wrong with being fractured from neck to feet.


#3 She doesn't know the 1st thing if he killed himself or not.

#4 He was able to tour and was doing it with the P&M tour.

#5 He hung out with plenty of people.

#6. Stevie needs to worry about her own, drug riddled life, & stop making assumptions about Prince's.

rogifan said:

dinnerparty said:

and the more people who speak out on the dangers of addiction the more attention the problem gets, and maybe something will be done about the shady doctors who overprescribe and get unsuspecting people addicted.

People are upset at what Stevie said about a person basically unknown to any of us here, just think if your son or daughter were addicted to drugs, wouldn't you want people not only talking but screaming about the problem?

She is a person with the balls to speak up and risk critisism. You folks with the broken feelings- just WTF really?

Oh for godssake she insinuated that he committed suicide because he was ashamed he had an addiction problem. What evidence does she have to make that claim? Heck we don’t even have anything official that confirms he was an addict. Secondly she gives the impression he was this lonely hermit who had no friends and was basically an invalid. She seems to be coming to this conclusion based on the fact he wasn’t married and didn’t have any (living) children. Seriously? Sorry I don’t see anything in her comments that are about brining to light the problems of addiction.

The critisism she gets might be loud enough to get a conversation going, one that might have an impact. Right now its more like Big Brother talking and the rest of us shaking our heads tsk tsk-ing.

PennyPurple said:

dinnerparty said:

and the more people who speak out on the dangers of addiction the more attention the problem gets, and maybe something will be done about the shady doctors who overprescribe and get unsuspecting people addicted.

People are upset at what Stevie said about a person basically unknown to any of us here, just think if your son or daughter were addicted to drugs, wouldn't you want people not only talking but screaming about the problem?

She is a person with the balls to speak up and risk critisism. You folks with the broken feelings- just WTF really?

#1 She's wrong on the fentanyl, he wasn't using fentanyl on purpose.

#2 She's more than likely wrong with being fractured from neck to feet.


#3 She doesn't know the 1st thing if he killed himself or not.

#4 He was able to tour and was doing it with the P&M tour.

#5 He hung out with plenty of people.

#6. Stevie needs to worry about her own, drug riddled life, & stop making assumptions about Prince's.

Penny you seem to be mocking her for her drug addiction, which helps nobody. Your protection of Prince is admirable though.

moonsister said:

The critisism she gets might be loud enough to get a conversation going, one that might have an impact. Right now its more like Big Brother talking and the rest of us shaking our heads tsk tsk-ing.

Maybe she needs to talk about her drug use, instead of alleging Prince's possible drug use.

PennyPurple said:

moonsister said:

The critisism she gets might be loud enough to get a conversation going, one that might have an impact. Right now its more like Big Brother talking and the rest of us shaking our heads tsk tsk-ing.

Maybe she needs to talk about her drug use, instead of alleging Prince's possible drug use.

Or maybe she's speaking out from a position of hard-earned empathy, as in, it takes one to know one.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

PennyPurple said:

Maybe she needs to talk about her drug use, instead of alleging Prince's possible drug use.

Or maybe she's speaking out from a position of hard-earned empathy, as in, it takes one to know one.

She made an awful lot of assumptions. She wants to help somebody help them with what she went thru, not what she ASSUMES Prince did or didn't do.