Lovejunky said:
I had thought about this a lot...
especially when listening to "Somewhere here on Earth"
I know a lot of women secretly think that THEY would have been his match or"equally Yolked" as we have discussed before
easy to think it, in retrospect....
We could even specualte and create a Profile of what we think this woman would be like What qualities would she posess?
But in reality....?
Ill go with what I orginally posted and reiterate
He remained ever Hopeful...
And GOOD GIRL...
So long as you're respectful Angel
I can see that my difference in perspective has caused you some resentment. I was hoping you'd be a little more mature than that. Oh, well. | |
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. Amen! ^^ ^^
"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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. Riding the Purple wave says it all!! . I can see why Prince cut ties with both these woman. Good Lawd. Is there any woman out there who would actually love Prince for being Prince, and not his money or fame? . It coulda been me. Just saying.
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. Prince made his choices. Right or wrong, it was his choice and his life. It takes two to tango.
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. Prince was divorced from M1 and M2. That alone should tell you everything right there. They were both Gold diggers! . M1 and M2 keep on riding on Prince's coattails.
. Sad.
[Edited 4/24/17 16:31pm] "With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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That was a Joke Angel...saidwith affection not resentment or anything else...
Sorry you saw it differently | |
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I was going to say I didn't see anything wrong either but because I'm on team Angel I kept quiet This is my normal life. These marital standards cannot be recreated with money. | |
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One more thought I have is how, with time, we will lose track of those two. I know nothing about Eric unless it is reported on this site. Someone obviously trying hard but without enough potential to make it bigger than the little clown he is right now. As for Mani, all we know is being the second wife Prince married by accident out of the blue and who brought no artistical experience to Prince' world. Slowly but surely the priorities attracting us to Prince, mainly artistic, will sustain memories of his associates and the stronger ones. This means we will totally lose sight of Manuela Testolini just like we did for some associates who understood this quick and for that reason are not saying anything else but moving on with their lives, trying other fields, and staying away from...US. Prince fans. This is my normal life. These marital standards cannot be recreated with money. | |
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So am I | |
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. Hope you don't mind me adding to this. I think Manuela gave Prince something different than he ever experienced before in a relationship. I think she was more business-minded, like he was and he loved her charity work and they both accomplished some wonderful things together, but their marriage ended, because that is what Manuela wanted. It did not take long for Prince to realize that he was being used (again), because she wanted a lot more out of the divorce than she actually ended up with, but Prince was very generous with her. I think Prince did love her at one time, but things change. Just my :two cents:
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cloveringold85 said:
. Hope you don't mind me adding to this. I think Manuela gave Prince something different than he ever experienced before in a relationship. I think she was more business-minded, like he was and he loved her charity work and they both accomplished some wonderful things together, but their marriage ended, because that is what Manuela wanted. It did not take long for Prince to realize that he was being used (again), because she wanted a lot more out of the divorce than she actually ended up with, but Prince was very generous with her. I think Prince did love her at one time, but things change. Just my :two cents:
Agreed! This is my normal life. These marital standards cannot be recreated with money. | |
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Me either! | |
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Mayte wasn't innocent in how she got with Prince. She knew he was seeing other women at the time, Nona, Carmen, etc. She probably got pregnant on purpose cause apparently it was a surprise for him, then he proposed to try to do the right thing by her. How you get him is how you lose him. Mani (even at her young age) was a more mature, stronger partner for Prince than Mayte ever thought of being. I wish he had meet and married Mani first. Things may have turned out better for him. | |
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. True. The way Prince met both M1 and M2 is very strange. I'm sure you know the story about when Prince gave Mayte her engagement ring and she went and showed it off right in front of Nona!! She was crushed. Yes, Mayte was young and naive, but she knew how to get what she wanted from Prince. I think both M1 and M2 were gold diggers, so I don't know if he married M2 first, it would have turned out any better.
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I thought the same way when I first met Mani. I did not like Mayte at all for cultural reasons (revealing too much and not representing women for their real worth instead of a mere body and sex) while I loved Mani who presented herself as a tomboy, humble, and so approachable to people. I was so hoping Mani and I would be close friends because I felt we had so much in common. (Yes, I met her personally at Paisley Park) Time has changed, attitude has changed, and opinions have changed. Nowadays, I feel empathy for Mayte (losing her youth, suffering tragedies, and being pushed out) as well as a certain inspiration for fighting phases of deep depressions yet keeping strong. Today, she is opening up about it all regardless of resistance. Mani, on the other hand, has been more attracted to the limelight, money, making a name for herself, and trying hard to persuade people she was still in Prince's world when evidence showed she was not only pushed out but had to remain away from Prince. Whatever reasons are behind close doors, their public persona has revealed a lot about those two characters. This is my normal life. These marital standards cannot be recreated with money. | |
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malbena said:
I thought the same way when I first met Mani. I did not like Mayte at all for cultural reasons (revealing too much and not representing women for their real worth instead of a mere body and sex) while I loved Mani who presented herself as a tomboy, humble, and so approachable to people. I was so hoping Mani and I would be close friends because I felt we had so much in common. (Yes, I met her personally at Paisley Park) Time has changed, attitude has changed, and opinions have changed. Nowadays, I feel empathy for Mayte (losing her youth, suffering tragedies, and being pushed out) as well as a certain inspiration for fighting phases of deep depressions yet keeping strong. Today, she is opening up about it all regardless of resistance. Mani, on the other hand, has been more attracted to the limelight, money, making a name for herself, and trying hard to persuade people she was still in Prince's world when evidence showed she was not only pushed out but had to remain away from Prince. Whatever reasons are behind close doors, their public persona has revealed a lot about those two characters. This exact quote can be said about Mayte now and over the past 17 years! If there was no gag order from Prince, her words, why didn't she "open up" while he was alive? He's not here to refute anything she says, so many will just take her word as gospel. | |
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Mayte was engaged to Prince months before she was married | |
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endiadj said: Mayte wasn't innocent in how she got with Prince. She knew he was seeing other women at the time, Nona, Carmen, etc. She probably got pregnant on purpose cause apparently it was a surprise for him, then he proposed to try to do the right thing by her. How you get him is how you lose him. Mani (even at her young age) was a more mature, stronger partner for Prince than Mayte ever thought of being. I wish he had meet and married Mani first. Things may have turned out better for him. Where are you getting your information? It is woefully inaccurate. Prince proposed to Mayte on July 25, 1995 and they married on February 14, 1996. So, if you are saying he proposed because she was pregnant and he was "trying to do right by her", then she was pregnant for 1 year and 4 months. Yep. Makes sense to me. And, fwiw, Prince invited Nona to the event where she saw Mayte's engagement ring. Mayte did not do anything malicious to Nona, Carmen, etc. Prince ended those relationships on his own terms. Additionally, Manuela was calculated in her pursuit of Prince. She seized upon an opportunity, Prince was incredibly vulnerable having just lost his beloved Amiir, with dishonest intent. Her most egregious action, imo, was to embrace the JW religion only to relinquish it upon the dissolution of her marriage to Prince. Faithful follower, indeed! "Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence......." ~ DESIDERATA ~ Max Ehrmann | |
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NotACleverName said: endiadj said: Mayte wasn't innocent in how she got with Prince. She knew he was seeing other women at the time, Nona, Carmen, etc. She probably got pregnant on purpose cause apparently it was a surprise for him, then he proposed to try to do the right thing by her. How you get him is how you lose him. Mani (even at her young age) was a more mature, stronger partner for Prince than Mayte ever thought of being. I wish he had meet and married Mani first. Things may have turned out better for him. Where are you getting your information? It is woefully inaccurate. Prince proposed to Mayte on July 25, 1995 and they married on February 14, 1996. So, if you are saying he proposed because she was pregnant and he was "trying to do right by her", then she was pregnant for 1 year and 4 months. Yep. Makes sense to me. And, fwiw, Prince invited Nona to the event where she saw Mayte's engagement ring. Mayte did not do anything malicious to Nona, Carmen, etc. Prince ended those relationships on his own terms. Additionally, Manuela was calculated in her pursuit of Prince. She seized upon an opportunity, Prince was incredibly vulnerable having just lost his beloved Amiir, with dishonest intent. Her most egregious action, imo, was to embrace the JW religion only to relinquish it upon the dissolution of her marriage to Prince. Faithful follower, indeed! Prince proposed to a few ladies and didn't follow through. Maybe Mayte got pregnant while they were engaged to his surprise, so he followed through. All I know is he exiled her for some reason from his life, even saying he wanted an annulment. And then trying to make her buy a ticket to one of his concerts? Something deep happened with her that made him flee and not want to look back. | |
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Unless you are related, this information would be very difficult to corroborate considering it only involved Prince and Mayte.
Whoever you are or claim to be endiadj!
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endiadj said: NotACleverName said: Where are you getting your information? It is woefully inaccurate. Prince proposed to Mayte on July 25, 1995 and they married on February 14, 1996. So, if you are saying he proposed because she was pregnant and he was "trying to do right by her", then she was pregnant for 1 year and 4 months. Yep. Makes sense to me. And, fwiw, Prince invited Nona to the event where she saw Mayte's engagement ring. Mayte did not do anything malicious to Nona, Carmen, etc. Prince ended those relationships on his own terms. Additionally, Manuela was calculated in her pursuit of Prince. She seized upon an opportunity, Prince was incredibly vulnerable having just lost his beloved Amiir, with dishonest intent. Her most egregious action, imo, was to embrace the JW religion only to relinquish it upon the dissolution of her marriage to Prince. Faithful follower, indeed! Prince proposed to a few ladies and didn't follow through. Maybe Mayte got pregnant while they were engaged to his surprise, so he followed through. All I know is he exiled her for some reason from his life, even saying he wanted an annulment. And then trying to make her buy a ticket to one of his concerts? Something deep happened with her that made him flee and not want to look back. He may have proposed to other women but he did follow thru with Mayte and that is what counts. I'm going to say no....she didn't get pregnant before he proposed. She was forthcoming about her two pregnancies in her book. Why would she hide one? Nope. Makes no sense. At all. Well, he did invite her to his Vegas show (he provided the ticket) and during that show sought her out while performing, to give her a (very public) hug. Not the action of a bitter, angry man. She wasn't "exiled" from his life. They spoke off and on throughout the ensuing years after the divorce. However, he did exile Manuela. Locking her out of the house. Cutting off access to credit cards and money. He wouldn't even SPEAK to her. He would only communicate with her thru an intermediary, Dr. Funkenberry aka Jeremiah Freed. You really should read her book. For context, if nothing else. You are speculating. Presuming. Your conjecture holds no weight. "Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence......." ~ DESIDERATA ~ Max Ehrmann | |
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Yes and yes.... | |
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. Mayte was a very young girl when she first Met Prince. 16 years-old, so I think a lot of the blame is on her parents who pushed her into the limelight and encouraged her to dance for Prince. . The funny thing about M2 is that one of the reasons she divorced Prince was because she didn't like being in the limelight. But look who's she married to now, Halle's leftovers, doing tributes to Prince. Creepy! . Well, M1 wrote a book about her life with Prince and she was on TV talking about it, so she is only drawing more attention to herself in the "limelight".
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They are both bat shit crazy and anyone who cannot see it is delusional. If I man cut off my cards and threw me in the streets I would not be posting pics of him 10 years later on my Facebook so my new husband can see how much I am still ga ga over my dead ex. (nuts)
M1 was left in another country while husband ran around with his mistress openly who was no different then Nona and Carmen who he was openly seeing while dating M1 but she still after 20 years cannot stop talking about him.
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I agree. It's the "experience," that they both miss. | |
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That's our Laura Speaking her mind as always but...love you for it! This is my normal life. These marital standards cannot be recreated with money. | |
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I agree. Because of their half-baked mistakes, we get ice cream, no cake; all lies, no truth; is it fair to Kill the YOUTH ~~ Party Up | |
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You are defending a person who is delusional. She does not even know if her stuff was burned and how do you burn ashes?
She has no proof this happend and has not even named the assistant who told her all this occured. It makes for great drama in the book and you are one of many who is buying into.
In addtion, if he did burn it so what. It fine to say my stuff was burned but my guess is nothing was burned that he did not own and I am sure he saw it in that manner.
He may very well have burned her shit or maybe he kept it the point his dude's do not this type of shit for nothing. There are two sides two every story and we are never going to hear one side of this drama because it would intefer with the riding of the purple coatails to the bank. I am telling you I would not spend the time and energy on someone who treated me bad which is all she has done for 20 years.
Maybe she did not get anything in the divorce because she did not make an effort which would mean she did not care. If you want something you make an effort to get it.
All she had to do was get an attorney and once shit started hitting the news she would have gotten money out him and maybe even the urn. She did not make an effort so what is the point complaining about it now.
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Exactly. In the book, it sounded as if she wanted to divorce quietly, no big production. She wrote him a letter and next thing you know, there is a deal, she gets the house in Spain, and it's over. This is how she presented it. I can go back and read, but I don't remember her mentioning a prenuptial. It seems to me that should've gotten more? Why didn't she fight for the baby's ashes then or request that it be part of the transfer of property? I can't speak from experience as I've never gone through divorce, but the way it all went down, is a bit bizarre. It's too late to question and/ or complain against what she didn't get. | |
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M1 did not make the effort to get more out of the divorce. She says so in the book. She says that her attorney told her it was a crap offer, but she just wanted it over with, so she took the 1st offer. My question is why, when she would need $$$ to get back on her feet and be comfortable for at least a little while? In the preface of the book, M1 says that she is not telling all, and the gaps in the whys for several situations is proof that she is not telling the whole story. Maybe she didn't persue more because she just did not have the fight in her or maybe she is hiding something on her side of the fence. After all, she is the one who asked for the divorce. | |
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