MMJas said:

PennyPurple said:

IF she writes another book, I don't see how it could possibly be about Prince because she has already wrote it. If there was anything she needed to add, she should have done it that book. IMO there is nothing left to cover..Prince wise for her. Of course it could be, 'My Life After Prince'...

The thing is she has already stated that she might write another book about Prince, concerning ideas behind songs and how they came about.

She should have included it in this book. I probably won't be buying her new book if she decides to write it.

PennyPurple said:

MMJas said:

PennyPurple said:

IF she writes another book, I don't see how it could possibly be about Prince because she has already wrote it. If there was anything she needed to add, she should have done it that book. IMO there is nothing left to cover..Prince wise for her. Of course it could be, 'My Life After Prince'...

The thing is she has already stated that she might write another book about Prince, concerning ideas behind songs and how they came about.

Jesus this the exact thing Prince was talking about in the Ebony article. How would she know what the ideas were behind the songs? I hope she has enough sense not to do this.

laurarichardson said:

bsprout said:

Empress said:

bsprout said:

In my opinion her main goal with this book was to write "the" definitive book about the love they shared, and I think she accomplished this.

I love your simple statement and I completely agree. Some of the comments on this site about this book have made me sick. How do these people claim to know more about Prince and Mayte's relationship than Mayte herself? This was her experience. She was with the man for 10 years. Shared many, many intimate moments and conversations. She had his baby and went through some very sad, difficult times, all in her early 20's. It's clear to me that he broke her heart and she loved him very much and still does. She saw many things during her years with Prince that she didn't like or agree with and she has the right to say so. Prince was a human being with flaws like everyone else. I think Mayte did a great job of telling her story and I appreciate the fact that she kept some things private and didn't go into a lot of detail about other things. I believe this book shows her love and respect for Prince in a realistic way. Those that have condemned her story and feel they know the real story, fuck all y'all.

Empress said:

Empress said:

bsprout said:

In my opinion her main goal with this book was to write "the" definitive book about the love they shared, and I think she accomplished this.

I love your simple statement and I completely agree. Some of the comments on this site about this book have made me sick. How do these people claim to know more about Prince and Mayte's relationship than Mayte herself? This was her experience. She was with the man for 10 years. Shared many, many intimate moments and conversations. She had his baby and went through some very sad, difficult times, all in her early 20's. It's clear to me that he broke her heart and she loved him very much and still does. She saw many things during her years with Prince that she didn't like or agree with and she has the right to say so. Prince was a human being with flaws like everyone else. I think Mayte did a great job of telling her story and I appreciate the fact that she kept some things private and didn't go into a lot of detail about other things. I believe this book shows her love and respect for Prince in a realistic way. Those that have condemned her story and feel they know the real story, fuck all y'all.

There may be some people who are pissed that she wrote it, but that ship has sailed. Most of the comments are not about her writing the book, rather they deal directly with what she wrote in the book that contradicts everything both he and she have said or done over the past 20 years or that directly contradict the known facts. They BOTH went through a very difficult period - he with WB and then when they had the child - yet no one considers that he had A LOT of people depending on him for their livelihoods. Everyone from other musicians down to film crews and the complete running of PP. He couldn't afford to take time off after the death of the child with a new album to promote. He WAS the business.

Misslink88 said:

Empress said:

bsprout said:

In my opinion her main goal with this book was to write "the" definitive book about the love they shared, and I think she accomplished this.

I love your simple statement and I completely agree.

thank you

NotACleverName said:

Misslink88 said:

There may be some people who are pissed that she wrote it, but that ship has sailed. Most of the comments are not about her writing the book, rather they deal directly with what she wrote in the book that contradicts everything both he and she have said or done over the past 20 years or that directly contradict the known facts. They BOTH went through a very difficult period - he with WB and then when they had the child - yet no one considers that he had A LOT of people depending on him for their livelihoods. Everyone from other musicians down to film crews and the complete running of PP. He couldn't afford to take time off after the death of the child with a new album to promote. He WAS the business.

Of course it is still about writing the book. Without the book, there would be no opportunity for the dissecting of her story. You say as much in the underlined part. I'm not quite seeing the difference in what you have written. So, how does the bolded justify the hate expressed for Mayte on this thread (and other places on the org)? Just trying to follow whatever it is you are attempting to explain. I have not noticed many disputing the fact that Prince didn't suffer. However, I am going to say, given what his connection to his music was, that he most likely welcomed the distraction the promotion required. I would go so far as to say he would have lost his mind had he taken time off to mourn Amiir's death. In fact, I think he mourned through his music. THAT was exactly what he needed at that time. Now, had Amiir survived, perhaps he would have taken some time off to enjoy his newborn son. But that, of course, is pure speculation. Wishful thinking on my part. I honestly wish he, and Mayte, could have gotten their happy ending. Frankly, the way I see it, there has been an almost fervent, desperate desire to seek out (supposed) contradictions. I don't understand how someone can question some of the info she included. One that stands out is the fact that she shares that she had saved up $100,000. She states this, yet some want to debate her truth. And someone even speculated "how" she earned that money. Is that really necessary? What is the desired conclusion to seeking out concert set lists, past articles, and other info to corroborate a suspected misnomer? Is someone going to write a book about THAT? I look at it as a way to shame someone. I don't see how that benefits anyone. I'm going to say it again.....Prince doesn't need defending. He doesn't care what others say anymore. For those that understand his humanness, there is no judgement for whatever actions he took against others, good or bad, intended or not. Because WE GET that this journey is about the lessons learned, the mistakes made, the ones we've hurt, the love we've made. Prince is no longer in the physical but his legacy is secure. He will be remembered, praised, discussed, and probably still idolized, for generations to come.

I agree with your view about his morning within his music. It was always something he turned to in difficult times as well as to express himself and had he not had it, I believe it would have crushed him completely. Mica Paris said he was a changed man after the experience. As for the bolded, this was not "My Fictionalized Life with Prince". The cherry picking - she can't be expected to remember exactly everything but this thing she got right because she lived it - is exactly what people have been talking about. She lived it. As such, certain things that she wrote about in her book after April 2016, contradict the very things she said about them before April 2016. One of the things P was adamant about was the truth - "Just give me all the information and I'll make up my mind myself." No, she can't touch his legacy but it has been impacted by the things she wrote. And yes, P does need defending because he is not here to do it.

LBrent said:

Empress said:

bsprout said: I love your simple statement and I completely agree. Some of the comments on this site about this book have made me sick. How do these people claim to know more about Prince and Mayte's relationship than Mayte herself? This was her experience. She was with the man for 10 years. Shared many, many intimate moments and conversations. She had his baby and went through some very sad, difficult times, all in her early 20's. It's clear to me that he broke her heart and she loved him very much and still does. She saw many things during her years with Prince that she didn't like or agree with and she has the right to say so. Prince was a human being with flaws like everyone else. I think Mayte did a great job of telling her story and I appreciate the fact that she kept some things private and didn't go into a lot of detail about other things. I believe this book shows her love and respect for Prince in a realistic way. Those that have condemned her story and feel they know the real story, fuck all y'all.

She was his employee at first and I only count the relationship from the romance -

Many people worked for him and from her own admission they were not adjoined at the hip those 10 years. When the years first started he was with Carmen and Nona . . . and before the 10 years ended he had taken up with Mani so they were not "together" for 10 years.

Vashtix said:

Vashtix said:

LBrent said:

She was his employee at first and I only count the relationship from the romance -

Many people worked for him and from her own admission they were not adjoined at the hip those 10 years. When the years first started he was with Carmen and Nona . . . and before the 10 years ended he had taken up with Mani so they were not "together" for 10 years.

Vashtix, as much as you hate Mayte, I'm surprised you've read her book......and if you haven't read the book, then please step off of this thread, as it is for those of us who have read it.

I am still waiting to hear from the Author to see if she will answer the questions that I asked.

PennyPurple said:

MMJas said:

The thing is she has already stated that she might write another book about Prince, concerning ideas behind songs and how they came about.

She should have included it in this book. I probably won't be buying her new book if she decides to write it.

Just borrow it from the library, that's what they're there for.

The Bible calls for followers of Christ to dress modestly. Prince and Mayte certainly did not dress modestly. I was a bit put off by how much they loved their clothes. Quite materialistic.

Misslink88 said:

NotACleverName said:

Misslink88 said: Of course it is still about writing the book. Without the book, there would be no opportunity for the dissecting of her story. You say as much in the underlined part. I'm not quite seeing the difference in what you have written. So, how does the bolded justify the hate expressed for Mayte on this thread (and other places on the org)? Just trying to follow whatever it is you are attempting to explain. I have not noticed many disputing the fact that Prince didn't suffer. However, I am going to say, given what his connection to his music was, that he most likely welcomed the distraction the promotion required. I would go so far as to say he would have lost his mind had he taken time off to mourn Amiir's death. In fact, I think he mourned through his music. THAT was exactly what he needed at that time. Now, had Amiir survived, perhaps he would have taken some time off to enjoy his newborn son. But that, of course, is pure speculation. Wishful thinking on my part. I honestly wish he, and Mayte, could have gotten their happy ending. Frankly, the way I see it, there has been an almost fervent, desperate desire to seek out (supposed) contradictions. I don't understand how someone can question some of the info she included. One that stands out is the fact that she shares that she had saved up $100,000. She states this, yet some want to debate her truth. And someone even speculated "how" she earned that money. Is that really necessary? What is the desired conclusion to seeking out concert set lists, past articles, and other info to corroborate a suspected misnomer? Is someone going to write a book about THAT? I look at it as a way to shame someone. I don't see how that benefits anyone. I'm going to say it again.....Prince doesn't need defending. He doesn't care what others say anymore. For those that understand his humanness, there is no judgement for whatever actions he took against others, good or bad, intended or not. Because WE GET that this journey is about the lessons learned, the mistakes made, the ones we've hurt, the love we've made. Prince is no longer in the physical but his legacy is secure. He will be remembered, praised, discussed, and probably still idolized, for generations to come.

I agree with your view about his morning within his music. It was always something he turned to in difficult times as well as to express himself and had he not had it, I believe it would have crushed him completely. Mica Paris said he was a changed man after the experience. As for the bolded, this was not "My Fictionalized Life with Prince". The cherry picking - she can't be expected to remember exactly everything but this thing she got right because she lived it - is exactly what people have been talking about. She lived it. As such, certain things that she wrote about in her book after April 2016, contradict the very things she said about them before April 2016. One of the things P was adamant about was the truth - "Just give me all the information and I'll make up my mind myself." No, she can't touch his legacy but it has been impacted by the things she wrote. And yes, P does need defending because he is not here to do it.

I look at the contradictions as a part of the story of Prince. Prince was always very controversial and he would often change things up. For instance, when he first came on the scene, he lead people to believe that he was biracial. The interview with Oprah after Amiir died, he lead on that the baby was fine. I'm sure there was a narrative that Mayte was trying to maintain while Prince was alive that Prince wanted maintained. Whether it was fully honest or not, is besides the point. Mayte honored that narrative. Now, she is able to tell her story in her own words and I'm sure there are going to be things that contradict what she said earlier in her career, things that Prince probably approved.

As for defending Prince, there is absolutely nothing to defend Prince from. If you want to defend Prince, then defend what he wanted when it came to his music instead of the releases that are coming out. If Prince had wanted that music out, he would have put it out. Don't buy all these products that are now using Prince's symbol, that includes Sheila E's use of the symbol, or anyone else that is using it. Don't support these bands that are now going around and playing his music. Prince never wanted that and would have never given his approval for it. Everyone is getting up in arms about Mayte writing a book, but no one is saying anything about anyone else using the symbol, playing his music, telling stories about Prince. If you are going to defend Prince, then you can't pick and choose what you are going to defend and what you are going to support. We all know what Prince would not support. Write letters to the google sponsors about boycotting them because google ad used a Prince song. You KNOW Prince wouldn't have liked that.

If you aren't defending Prince in those ways, but are condemning Mayte, then it isn't so much defending Prince as it is that you just don't like Mayte and this is an easy way to show that dislike.

Misslink88 said:

NotACleverName said:

Misslink88 said: Of course it is still about writing the book. Without the book, there would be no opportunity for the dissecting of her story. You say as much in the underlined part. I'm not quite seeing the difference in what you have written. So, how does the bolded justify the hate expressed for Mayte on this thread (and other places on the org)? Just trying to follow whatever it is you are attempting to explain. I have not noticed many disputing the fact that Prince didn't suffer. However, I am going to say, given what his connection to his music was, that he most likely welcomed the distraction the promotion required. I would go so far as to say he would have lost his mind had he taken time off to mourn Amiir's death. In fact, I think he mourned through his music. THAT was exactly what he needed at that time. Now, had Amiir survived, perhaps he would have taken some time off to enjoy his newborn son. But that, of course, is pure speculation. Wishful thinking on my part. I honestly wish he, and Mayte, could have gotten their happy ending. Frankly, the way I see it, there has been an almost fervent, desperate desire to seek out (supposed) contradictions. I don't understand how someone can question some of the info she included. One that stands out is the fact that she shares that she had saved up $100,000. She states this, yet some want to debate her truth. And someone even speculated "how" she earned that money. Is that really necessary? What is the desired conclusion to seeking out concert set lists, past articles, and other info to corroborate a suspected misnomer? Is someone going to write a book about THAT? I look at it as a way to shame someone. I don't see how that benefits anyone. I'm going to say it again.....Prince doesn't need defending. He doesn't care what others say anymore. For those that understand his humanness, there is no judgement for whatever actions he took against others, good or bad, intended or not. Because WE GET that this journey is about the lessons learned, the mistakes made, the ones we've hurt, the love we've made. Prince is no longer in the physical but his legacy is secure. He will be remembered, praised, discussed, and probably still idolized, for generations to come.

I agree with your view about his morning within his music. It was always something he turned to in difficult times as well as to express himself and had he not had it, I believe it would have crushed him completely. Mica Paris said he was a changed man after the experience. As for the bolded, this was not "My Fictionalized Life with Prince". The cherry picking - she can't be expected to remember exactly everything but this thing she got right because she lived it - is exactly what people have been talking about. She lived it. As such, certain things that she wrote about in her book after April 2016, contradict the very things she said about them before April 2016. One of the things P was adamant about was the truth - "Just give me all the information and I'll make up my mind myself." No, she can't touch his legacy but it has been impacted by the things she wrote. And yes, P does need defending because he is not here to do it.

Misslink, I don't believe she relied on just her memory for writing the book. Rather, I believe that she had journals upon which she relied for writing the book.

benni said:

Misslink88 said:

I agree with your view about his morning within his music. It was always something he turned to in difficult times as well as to express himself and had he not had it, I believe it would have crushed him completely. Mica Paris said he was a changed man after the experience. As for the bolded, this was not "My Fictionalized Life with Prince". The cherry picking - she can't be expected to remember exactly everything but this thing she got right because she lived it - is exactly what people have been talking about. She lived it. As such, certain things that she wrote about in her book after April 2016, contradict the very things she said about them before April 2016. One of the things P was adamant about was the truth - "Just give me all the information and I'll make up my mind myself." No, she can't touch his legacy but it has been impacted by the things she wrote. And yes, P does need defending because he is not here to do it.

I look at the contradictions as a part of the story of Prince. Prince was always very controversial and he would often change things up. For instance, when he first came on the scene, he lead people to believe that he was biracial. The interview with Oprah after Amiir died, he lead on that the baby was fine. I'm sure there was a narrative that Mayte was trying to maintain while Prince was alive that Prince wanted maintained. Whether it was fully honest or not, is besides the point. Mayte honored that narrative. Now, she is able to tell her story in her own words and I'm sure there are going to be things that contradict what she said earlier in her career, things that Prince probably approved.

As for defending Prince, there is absolutely nothing to defend Prince from. If you want to defend Prince, then defend what he wanted when it came to his music instead of the releases that are coming out. If Prince had wanted that music out, he would have put it out. Don't buy all these products that are now using Prince's symbol, that includes Sheila E's use of the symbol, or anyone else that is using it. Don't support these bands that are now going around and playing his music. Prince never wanted that and would have never given his approval for it. Everyone is getting up in arms about Mayte writing a book, but no one is saying anything about anyone else using the symbol, playing his music, telling stories about Prince. If you are going to defend Prince, then you can't pick and choose what you are going to defend and what you are going to support. We all know what Prince would not support. Write letters to the google sponsors about boycotting them because google ad used a Prince song. You KNOW Prince wouldn't have liked that.

If you aren't defending Prince in those ways, but are condemning Mayte, then it isn't so much defending Prince as it is that you just don't like Mayte and this is an easy way to show that dislike.

None of the things I've brought up have dealt with Mayte "honoring the narrative" but are contradictions she's made of the very statements she's made in her book, nevermind the interviews she did before or after. I'm not going over them again, but any intelligent person reading her "narrative" will side-eye the hell out of it.

206Michelle said:

Misslink88 said:

I agree with your view about his morning within his music. It was always something he turned to in difficult times as well as to express himself and had he not had it, I believe it would have crushed him completely. Mica Paris said he was a changed man after the experience. As for the bolded, this was not "My Fictionalized Life with Prince". The cherry picking - she can't be expected to remember exactly everything but this thing she got right because she lived it - is exactly what people have been talking about. She lived it. As such, certain things that she wrote about in her book after April 2016, contradict the very things she said about them before April 2016. One of the things P was adamant about was the truth - "Just give me all the information and I'll make up my mind myself." No, she can't touch his legacy but it has been impacted by the things she wrote. And yes, P does need defending because he is not here to do it.

Misslink, I don't believe she relied on just her memory for writing the book. Rather, I believe that she had journals upon which she relied for writing the book.

If she had journals, then things should have been more clear. Here's one: She says they recorded "The Max", "Blue Light" and "When God Created Woman" all in one session. The Max was recorded in late 1991, Blue Light in May 1991 and God Created Woman in early December 1991 according to Prince Vault. Another one: She writes that she's docked pay and says the accountant tells her that in 20 years, he's never had to do that before - ask the Revolution about that; they've talked about it for years. There are many more, which I have asked about in this thread, so I'm not going to repeat them. Someone please explain to me why P can be discredited by people bringing out the contradictory things he's said but Mayte cannot be held to the same scrutiny.

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If Mayte chooses to answer the nitpicky nonsense after writing her book, she's a better woman than I am cuz I wouldn't.

As a matter of fact, she's too nice to do it, but I not only wouldn't entertain the nitpicking of my life, but if there were those who chose to press me and still didn't get a clue to 6th letter off, I would gleefully hand them a gift wrapped BonneBell flavoured chapstick with neat calligraphied directions to apply, then commense to kiss my entire pink dimpled arse post haste while I listen to Face Down...and bellydanced with a sword on my head.

But I'm that snyde spyteful bytch.

[Edited 5/8/17 22:11pm]

Misslink88 said:

206Michelle said:

Misslink, I don't believe she relied on just her memory for writing the book. Rather, I believe that she had journals upon which she relied for writing the book.

If she had journals, then things should have been more clear. Here's one: She says they recorded "The Max", "Blue Light" and "When God Created Woman" all in one session. The Max was recorded in late 1991, Blue Light in May 1991 and God Created Woman in early December 1991 according to Prince Vault. Another one: She writes that she's docked pay and says the accountant tells her that in 20 years, he's never had to do that before - ask the Revolution about that; they've talked about it for years. There are many more, which I have asked about in this thread, so I'm not going to repeat them. Someone please explain to me why P can be discredited by people bringing out the contradictory things he's said but Mayte cannot be held to the same scrutiny.

[Edited 5/8/17 21:02pm]

Maybe that is what the accountant told her, & the accountant actually lied.

I took the docking-pay comment to mean that the accountant had never docked pay over something someone ate, not that they had never docked pay in general.

PennyPurple said:

Misslink88 said:

If she had journals, then things should have been more clear. Here's one: She says they recorded "The Max", "Blue Light" and "When God Created Woman" all in one session. The Max was recorded in late 1991, Blue Light in May 1991 and God Created Woman in early December 1991 according to Prince Vault. Another one: She writes that she's docked pay and says the accountant tells her that in 20 years, he's never had to do that before - ask the Revolution about that; they've talked about it for years. There are many more, which I have asked about in this thread, so I'm not going to repeat them. Someone please explain to me why P can be discredited by people bringing out the contradictory things he's said but Mayte cannot be held to the same scrutiny.

[Edited 5/8/17 21:02pm]

Maybe that is what the accountant told her, & the accountant actually lied.

disch said:

LBrent said:

If Mayte chooses to answer the nitpicky nonsense after writing her book, she's a better woman than I am cuz I wouldn't.

As a matter of fact, she's too nice to do it, but I not only wouldn't entertain the nitpicking of my life, but if there were those who chose to press me and still didn't get a clue to 6th letter off, I would gleefully hand them a gift wrapped BonneBell flavoured chapstick with neat calligraphied directions to apply, then commense to kiss my entire pink dimpled arse post haste while I listen to Face Down...and bellydanced with a sword on my head.

But I'm that snyde spyteful bytch.

[Edited 5/8/17 22:11pm]

.

I totally agree!! Personally, I don't feel she OWES us any answers. ANYTHING she has to say will only be twisted and picked apart.

kmama07 said:

disch said:

I took the docking-pay comment to mean that the accountant had never docked pay over something someone ate, not that they had never docked pay in general.

I also took it as he'd never docked anyone for eating.

Exactly what I thought, too.

As I watched this emotional video about Jimmy Kimmel's newborn son, born 4/21/17, and the ensuing drama about the baby requiring open heart surgery, all I could think of was how P's situation with Amiir was at least as emotional and most would consider it far worse.

You can see Jimmy barely keeping from crying as he tells the story of how the baby had the surgery and that it was successfull.

P must've been the kid's guardian angel due to the kid's birthday being significant to him. Maybe that's how they decide that sorta thing in the afterlife. I dunno, but it sure made me smile to think so.

Enjoy.

http://prince.org/msg/100/441864

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PennyPurple said:

Misslink88 said:

If she had journals, then things should have been more clear. Here's one: She says they recorded "The Max", "Blue Light" and "When God Created Woman" all in one session. The Max was recorded in late 1991, Blue Light in May 1991 and God Created Woman in early December 1991 according to Prince Vault. Another one: She writes that she's docked pay and says the accountant tells her that in 20 years, he's never had to do that before - ask the Revolution about that; they've talked about it for years. There are many more, which I have asked about in this thread, so I'm not going to repeat them. Someone please explain to me why P can be discredited by people bringing out the contradictory things he's said but Mayte cannot be held to the same scrutiny.

[Edited 5/8/17 21:02pm]

Maybe that is what the accountant told her, & the accountant actually lied.

Of course he did because he had nothing better to do with his time. You know accountants - they lie all the time for kicks. Mayte wrote in her book that she decided to auction off his things in the Fall of 2015 because she didn't want to keep paying for storage, or she could donate the clothes to charity, or keep a shrine to her ex-husband in her closet space (even though she said she had them in storage). Not like she didn't have almost 20 years to get rid of it or return it to "move forward". After all, she wrote in her book that that was all she wanted to do after the divorce: take nothing but the house and move forward. In the interview she just did with Jon Bream a couple of says ago about her book, she's now blaming P's fans as the reason for selling his clothing after his death instead of the increase in value. Don't be surprised to see the Rave outfit at PP soon.

On selling his clothes and their china

Having those things in her home made it hard for her to move forward.

“If you have a guy over and there’s a whole bunch of china from your wedding, it’s not a good idea,” she explained.

His clothing was sold to raise money for Garcia’s nonprofit animal rescue foundation.

“After he died, it turned into a negative with some fans. What am I going to do? Hang on to it. Put it in storage? Donate it to who? That’s what I deal with.

“I’ll probably keep something. It’s not physical. A song that he wrote for me. A version recorded for me where he’s singing my name. Physical things are great but are they necessary? I just want to appreciate what I have in my heart for him.”

Somebody else wants to call it nit picking. I call it spinning the truth. Every new interview with her about the book she's saying something different. But, whatever. Some people will take whatever she says as gospel; the majority of the comments I've seen on other websites indicate people aren't buying it. However, her 15 minutes with me is done. She's proven over and over again that she makes stuff up. That's fine. It'll all come out eventually.