Apollonia and Mayte?

Reply #211 posted 04/07/17 3:31am

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malbena said:

Benni, nothing to apologize for. You spoke your truth. Be it.

We have all contradicted ourselves at some point as new information emerged and feelings have changed. We are all allowed to grow and have different opinions about events and people.

I believe we are also in two minds regarding some associates because we are compassionate in many ways and angry about some of their reactions in other ways.

I used to like Appolonia up until she started bashing Mayte and siding with Manuela, and all this publicly.

I have never been a fan of Mayte and got angry when the idea of the book came out. Now, I see she has not bashed anybody.

I used to love SheilaE until she started going around on tour using Prince's name and making profit.

I used to consider Manuela a friend back in the days when I hung around Paisley Park then she disappeared. I gave it time because of the divorce but I've seen details I can't accept.

Agree.

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Reply #212 posted 04/07/17 3:36am

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LBrent said:

MMJas said:

I'm sorry, but I'm really getting sick of this nonsense. Not talking directly to you, BillieBallon, but to all this pussyfooting concerning Prince and Mayte's relationship. Let's all believe for a second that what Mayte says is true: she states there was nothing illegal about their relationship and that he was always a gentleman. Her family believed that and in a type of environment like a rockstar's world, they allowed her 16 year old daughter to travel unaccompanied with a whole band. She had previous experience from belly dancing work and knew how to handle herself. Prince was made her guardian at 17 most likely because she was a minor and was travelling around the word, it was a mere formality. Prince always came across as a noble guy in the sense that he would wait for the person to be of age before starting a sexual relationship with them. But... come on, you all have to admit it's not exactly natural for a 30 something year old to fall for a 16 year old. And Prince had a history of falling for really young women. I'm not accusing him of anything, OBVIOUSLY, I absolutely adore the man and have the utmost respect for him, but his tastes were somewhat odd in that sense. Of course one could argue that younger women are easier to manipulate, control, etc. Yes. Makes a lot of sense and i believe that's why he always surrounded himself with younger idiolizing females. But no, the Prince-Mayte relationship was not a straightforward one. I have a teenage daughter and I would be questioning what does a 30 something man (a mega star at that!) want to do with a 16 year old girl? What do they talk about? Where do they meet intellectually? It's not uncommon, but it does make you wonder, hence some interviewers standpoint.
So yes, of course he had impure thoughts about her! But if we are to believe him and Mayte, which I do, he was a gentleman and waited. He was also intelligent and savvy and knew all hell would break loose if he got involved with her before she became an adult.

Art.

I think P also liked teaching these young inexperienced gals stuff like fashion (makeovers), travel, encouraging them to perform.

Am I naive enough to think he wasn't lowkey sexually attracted to them? Nope, but I think many of them were "artistic projects" as well.

Exactly. That was their only common ground and I believe Prince drew a lot of influences from Mayte which he thgen incorporated into his own art.
But I was telling it from the perspective of an interviewer, not a Prince fan, in the sense that's what others will perceive the relationship to have been: odd.

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Reply #213 posted 04/07/17 4:16am

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MMJas said:

LBrent said:

Ok, let me be clear...I'm not going to nitpick this womans retelling of her experiences.

Impure thoughts? SoTFwhat?

P was a healthy redblooded male, Mayte was a healthy redblooded female. He probably did have impure thoughts, so did lotsa gys. Did he act on them, that's the issue. And he's gone now and she could've said that he was inappropriate with her when she was 16, but she didn't. In fact, she made it clear that he wasn't.

More to the point, at 32 years old, P functioned more like a 20-21 year old in many ways, especially emotionally.

At 16 years old, Mayte functioned more like am 18 year old in many ways, especially emotionally.

Chronologically they were vastly different ages, but emotionally they were alot similar.

My Dad was 19 years older than my Mom and I understand this dynamic very very well.

Whatever.

She wrote a book. I listened. Her timing sux in releasing it, but that's what she did it. She didn't slam him in any way, and beleive me I was waiting for it in some instances cuz P really deserved it at one point or two.

I think she was as graceful as she could be with the details yet still be honest. He wasn't perfect. She didn't pretend that he was. He wasn't a horrible person. She protected his memory in enough ways that anyone who cared for him too will still care for him, maybe more.

The others, the media, folks who are looking to find validation that he was always unworthy of their care, those folks would've felt the same if she hadn't written a book or if she made him out to be Mother Theresa.

I think she handled it well. I have only one critcism if any...She should've knocked Manuela's teeth down her throat and stomped her azz...but that isn't my call.

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Again, I agree with you. Just wrote a similar reply before reading yours.
She handled it very well. Interviews and book. She probably could have said lots of stuff that would really hurt Prince's name and she did not.

The timing of the book has more to do with publishers than with Mayte. They know when to strike and they know exactly when such a book should be released. Mayte herself has stated that whereas before they demanded she exposed some dirt on him, with a tell all, now that he died she was allowed to write the book in her own terms and that's what she did. There is nothing in that book that damages Prince's name. We already knew he was controlling. We already knew he could be a bit of a tyrant. I read the book and got upset at Prince in some instances, sure. But nothing earthshattering that would change my opinion of him. I believe it to be a love story, her love story more than anything, cause she was much younger, it was a tremendously public situation to be in, Prince moulded and shaped her personality as well and she finds it hard to let go.

She exposed things that he obviously did not want the public to know and she did it to put money in her pocket. She could have written a book about her life, struggles with post-partum depression and how she dealt with being sexually abused (which I think is the root of her problem) but she seems to have no self-reflection and no interest on spilling the tea on herself.

Of course, the public may not be interested in her thus no profit motive.

How is it that Sheila E wrote a book about her life and only made mention of Prince for 10 pages and reveled nothing personal about him other than what we (fans) knew about him being a cheater? Because the book was about Sheila E's life not Prince's life.

Mayte had not spoken to him in 10 years ( not sure if I believe that ) was married to him 20 years ago and by everybody's account in did a 180 in his life after she was gone. Just the fact that she hates on his religion and whatever peace he got out it makes me questions her. I honestly think as time goes on we are going to find out we got to have him around another 20 years because of religion.

Please stop with this will not hurt his legacy. Many news outlets are already painting him as a pedophile which was not happening until this book came out.

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Reply #214 posted 04/07/17 4:35am

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laurarichardson said:

MMJas said:

Again, I agree with you. Just wrote a similar reply before reading yours.
She handled it very well. Interviews and book. She probably could have said lots of stuff that would really hurt Prince's name and she did not.

The timing of the book has more to do with publishers than with Mayte. They know when to strike and they know exactly when such a book should be released. Mayte herself has stated that whereas before they demanded she exposed some dirt on him, with a tell all, now that he died she was allowed to write the book in her own terms and that's what she did. There is nothing in that book that damages Prince's name. We already knew he was controlling. We already knew he could be a bit of a tyrant. I read the book and got upset at Prince in some instances, sure. But nothing earthshattering that would change my opinion of him. I believe it to be a love story, her love story more than anything, cause she was much younger, it was a tremendously public situation to be in, Prince moulded and shaped her personality as well and she finds it hard to let go.

She exposed things that he obviously did not want the public to know and she did it to put money in her pocket. She could have written a book about her life, struggles with post-partum depression and how she dealt with being sexually abused (which I think is the root of her problem) but she seems to have no self-reflection and no interest on spilling the tea on herself.

Of course, the public may not be interested in her thus no profit motive.

How is it that Sheila E wrote a book about her life and only made mention of Prince for 10 pages and reveled nothing personal about him other than what we (fans) knew about him being a cheater? Because the book was about Sheila E's life not Prince's life.

Mayte had not spoken to him in 10 years ( not sure if I believe that ) was married to him 20 years ago and by everybody's account in did a 180 in his life after she was gone. Just the fact that she hates on his religion and whatever peace he got out it makes me questions her. I honestly think as time goes on we are going to find out we got to have him around another 20 years because of religion.

Please stop with this will not hurt his legacy. Many news outlets are already painting him as a pedophile which was not happening until this book came out.

Laura, she probably hates on his religion because she believes it's the cause for their breakup.

What about the headlines with the drug narrative? The AIDS narrative? The media can paint them any way they want. When Mayte first came on the scene there were many comments about their possible relationship and speciffically the fact that she was underage.

What about when Bowie died? The media published an article about him and teenage girls. In fact, that same article comment on Prince and Mayte's relationship.

Here you are. Prince was still alive when this was written:

"Prince kept Anna Garcia, aka “Anna Fantastic,” with him at his Paisley Park compound when she was a teenager. She would ultimately become the subject of several of his late ‘80s/early ‘90s works, like “Vicki Waiting” and “Pink Cashmere,” which he wrote for Anna on her 18^th birthday.

“I met him when I was 15, that was the first time I met him. And we just spoke and had a nice conversation and nothing else,” she told a Dutch interviewer in the ‘90s. “And then when I was 17, I bumped into him and that’s when we started a relationship, which was almost two years. I guess it’s kind of a dream to a young girl of 17. You can be influenced very easily and stuff like that because he’s 12-13 years older than me.”

Prince dated Mayte Garcia shortly thereafter, a dancer he met when she was 16. “When we met I was a virgin and had never been with anybody,” she toldThe Mirror last year. The two would marry in 1996, when Mayte was 22. Unlike Anna, Mayte insists Prince didn’t pursue her seriously until she was 18.

“I’d always been a very focused dancer and very protected,” she said. “Prince was my first crush, and my first love, but we didn’t start to get serious until I turned 18. He was very respectful.”

This, from a thread in the org, when Prince was still alive:

" Nona Gaye was barely legal and was 16 years younger than Prince when they were involved.
Carmen Electra was approximately 15 years younger than Prince.
Anna Garcia was 15 when she met Prince, 17 when they started dating (Prince was around 29 at that time)"

http://prince.org/msg/7/116602

From Lipstick Alley, a newspaper headline:

"Rock Star Prince slept with me for four months but we never made love"

http://www.lipstickalley....st26759175

So yes, Prince and underage women has been discussed publically before. So stop blaming Mayte for stating (and actually defending!!!!!) something that Prince himself exposed himself for, dating much younger women.

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Reply #215 posted 04/07/17 6:28am

LBrent	Charlie Chaplin, anyone?
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Reply #216 posted 04/07/17 6:56am

starkitty	malbena said: Oh and Appolonia, just in case you read this thread, notice how the conversation quickly turned to Mayte and Mani. Yes, again, there is no much room for you in here. sure there is. i love apples. there's plenty of room.
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Reply #217 posted 04/07/17 7:05am

starkitty	starkitty said: malbena said: Oh and Appolonia, just in case you read this thread, notice how the conversation quickly turned to Mayte and Mani. Yes, again, there is no much room for you in here. sure there is. i love apples. there's plenty of room.
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Reply #218 posted 04/07/17 7:54am

starkitty said:

malbena said:

Oh and Appolonia, just in case you read this thread, notice how the conversation quickly turned to Mayte and Mani. Yes, again, there is no much room for you in here.

sure there is. i love apples. there's plenty of room.

How many threads are referring to her as opposed to the ones for Mayte and Mani?

This is my normal life. These marital standards cannot be recreated with money.

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Reply #219 posted 04/07/17 7:55am

malbena	starkitty said: starkitty said: sure there is. i love apples. there's plenty of room. That era has long gone and so has Appolonia. Plastic surgery is not enough. Maybe mentoring, teaching, consulting instead of holding on to once was by bashing on other associates. This is my normal life. These marital standards cannot be recreated with money.
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Reply #220 posted 04/07/17 8:38am

endiadj	malbena said: starkitty said: starkitty said: sure there is. i love apples. there's plenty of room. That era has long gone and so has Appolonia. Plastic surgery is not enough. Maybe mentoring, teaching, consulting instead of holding on to once was by bashing on other associates. Mayte's era was almost 20 years ago, but she's still coming for Prince.
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Reply #221 posted 04/07/17 8:56am

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In all honesty, are you really surprised all these women are coming for Prince? No pun intended.

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Reply #222 posted 04/07/17 9:07am

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benni said:

BillieBalloon said:

benni said:

I have not called anyone names for questioning Mayte. However, I have questioned those who are speaking with such authority that Mayte did this or intended that. I have never implied anyone is evil or labeled anyone a hater or a troll. I have asked why you why it is so important to you to paint Mayte in a poor light. "Hellbent" is your word, not mine. Mine was a geniune question. It seems that everytime someone tries to show that Mayte did not say that in her book, or that what was said in her book, when taken in context, can actually mean something else, you bring something else forward to try to show Mayte is an awful person. I did not call you a demon and do not assume that you are some kind of demon here to vilify Mayte.

And LBrent was one that was really against Mayte releasing this book and didn't have a lot of nice things to say originally. She read the book and from what she has said since then, she seems to think that it was a fairly balanced writing. So balanced critiques are okay, but it isn't the book you are critiquing, it's Mayte. And please keep in mind that critiques don't necessarily mean to put Mayte herself down, but critique honestly what she said and even question it and maybe read it to get the answers for yourself.

If I've made you feel like a demon here to vilify Mayte, then I apologize. That was never my intent.

I just don't get all the negativity directed towards this woman especially regarding what the press might to do or how they might interpret her words. That is on the press, not Mayte. She cannot control what they think. She can only correct them when she goes on interviews or reiterate what she meant in certain sections of her book.

Maytes motives have been questioned because of the timing of the book, the criticism is centred around the book. I have been questioning information from the book and the claims made in it. The whole thing is compounded by the fact that Prince has died and as such it is of interest regarding his legacy. None of us wants to see Prince being savaged in the press before the first year anniversary is even up. Mayte is telling her story but she has also spoken of incidents that she herself has made assumptions about. This was her chance to tell the truth not to make innsinuations about drugs and urns. Prince lost a child too, he grieved for that child privately. People are pointing out contradictions from her past to what she says now. I appreciate your apology, I do, takes humility, thanks.

The one thing I've been trying to keep in mind regarding the timing of the book is that it isn't always the artist's / author's / etc. choice. The publishing house has a lot to say about when the book is released. Unfortunately, I just don't think there would have ever been a good time to release it.

As for Prince being savaged in the press, I don't really see it happening. I see the tabloids acting up, but mainstream press, it isn't happening. Tabloids are always going to try to savage Prince, whether because of this book, or another, or the cause of ... I hate tabloids and avoid them because they just try to sensationalize everything.

The book was very tastefully done. I know that there are those that don't see it that way, and that's fine. I read the released version, and all the innuendos and rumors and everything that everyone has been complaining about since the bootleg was released really isn't the way they think it is.

And back to Prince. This will pass. People will forget about Mayte's book, anything she wrote, in a few months, because people will move on to the next thing. The one thing that will never pass is Prince and his legacy. He will be/is immortalized. Schools will be studying and performing his music for years and years to come. Prince wasn't just a superstar, he was a megastar. He was someone that even the Hollywood elite would bow down to, and become screaming and fainting fans whenever he appeared or if he deigned to acknowledge them. Someone that big, someone that HUGE cannot be brought down by a mere book. I have faith in the power of Prince's music, in his legacy, that I know nothing will ever make him out to be anything less than the megastar he was. I mean, think about it for a moment....Stars, BIG NAME stars, would act like giddy school girls when Prince was around. Prince was the epitomy of starhood and what they all wanted to strive for. No one is paying attention to what the tabloids are saying, they don't care. The only ones that are paying attention to the tabloids are us Prince fans, and it's because we don't want anything to tear Prince down. But it's us Prince fans that should know, KNOW, that nothing can tear that man down. He's a legend. If people are still talking about Jimi Hendrix, The Beatles, John Lennon, Marilyn Monroe, Woody Allen, and the list goes on - they all had some kind of controversy but it's not the controversy that people remember and cherish, it's the person themself and their music or art or movies. Just keep playing the music, introducing people to the music, and Prince will live on forever in our hearts, minds, and souls.

Regarding the timing of the book, Mayte herself said that she wanted to be the first to release a book. It is not all down to the publisher. She wanted the book released within the first year of his death and it was.

Whilst i agree with the sentiments about Princes legacy and how it will hopefully be remembered, you must also understand that mud sticks. Of the people you mentioned, i can tell you that Woody Allen in particular has never recovered from the scandal that engulfed him. Woody Allens reputation was left in tatters after he married his adopted daughter. Prince never did anything even close to that so i would never compare them in that aspect, but i am making the point about reputations as you bought Woody Allen up. Prince worked damn hard his whole life to build his career and legacy, with blood sweat and tears. Prince was not perfect, of course i know that. However, in life, Prince never generated the headlines we are now seeing about him. Truth is truth, the issue is, how much truth is there about Prince in the book? Some of the "truth" in there has already been shot down. Its not just about Maytes truth its also about a mans reputation, these things matter. They matter to his family and friends and his fans.

Baby, you're a star.

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Reply #223 posted 04/07/17 9:12am

BillieBalloon

MMJas said:

BillieBalloon said:

MMJas said:

Totally disagree. Her portrait of him was not disonourable at all. She told things like they were and we either believe it or not. The media always takes things out of context and can make a seedy headline from the most simple statement. That's how they sell.

She does mention about how she thought impure thoughts crossed his mind in the book. This when she was a teen.

I'm sorry, but I'm really getting sick of this nonsense. Not talking directly to you, BillieBallon, but to all this pussyfooting concerning Prince and Mayte's relationship. Let's all believe for a second that what Mayte says is true: she states there was nothing illegal about their relationship and that he was always a gentleman. Her family believed that and in a type of environment like a rockstar's world, they allowed her 16 year old daughter to travel unaccompanied with a whole band. She had previous experience from belly dancing work and knew how to handle herself. Prince was made her guardian at 17 most likely because she was a minor and was travelling around the word, it was a mere formality. Prince always came across as a noble guy in the sense that he would wait for the person to be of age before starting a sexual relationship with them. But... come on, you all have to admit it's not exactly natural for a 30 something year old to fall for a 16 year old. And Prince had a history of falling for really young women. I'm not accusing him of anything, OBVIOUSLY, I absolutely adore the man and have the utmost respect for him, but his tastes were somewhat odd in that sense. Of course one could argue that younger women are easier to manipulate, control, etc. Yes. Makes a lot of sense and i believe that's why he always surrounded himself with younger idiolizing females. But no, the Prince-Mayte relationship was not a straightforward one. I have a teenage daughter and I would be questioning what does a 30 something man (a mega star at that!) want to do with a 16 year old girl? What do they talk about? Where do they meet intellectually? It's not uncommon, but it does make you wonder, hence some interviewers standpoint.
So yes, of course he had impure thoughts about her! But if we are to believe him and Mayte, which I do, he was a gentleman and waited. He was also intelligent and savvy and knew all hell would break loose if he got involved with her before she became an adult.

You have to ask yourself how much culpability also lies with Maytes parents.

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Reply #224 posted 04/07/17 9:18am

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malbena said:

starkitty said:

malbena said:

Oh and Appolonia, just in case you read this thread, notice how the conversation quickly turned to Mayte and Mani. Yes, again, there is no much room for you in here.

sure there is. i love apples. there's plenty of room.

How many threads are referring to her as opposed to the ones for Mayte and Mani?

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Reply #225 posted 04/07/17 9:20am

MMJas said:

In all honesty, are you really surprised all these women are coming for Prince? No pun intended.

Some of them, I am.

I didn't expect Manuela to resurface in the public eyes even when done in a cryptic way.

Appolonia for me is history even after starring in Purple Rain over 30 years ago.

Mayte, I'm starting to appreciate more and considering how he treated her, she has the right to share her part.

This is my normal life. These marital standards cannot be recreated with money.

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Reply #226 posted 04/07/17 9:29am

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BillieBalloon said:
MMJas said:

I'm sorry, but I'm really getting sick of this nonsense. Not talking directly to you, BillieBallon, but to all this pussyfooting concerning Prince and Mayte's relationship. Let's all believe for a second that what Mayte says is true: she states there was nothing illegal about their relationship and that he was always a gentleman. Her family believed that and in a type of environment like a rockstar's world, they allowed her 16 year old daughter to travel unaccompanied with a whole band. She had previous experience from belly dancing work and knew how to handle herself. Prince was made her guardian at 17 most likely because she was a minor and was travelling around the word, it was a mere formality. Prince always came across as a noble guy in the sense that he would wait for the person to be of age before starting a sexual relationship with them. But... come on, you all have to admit it's not exactly natural for a 30 something year old to fall for a 16 year old. And Prince had a history of falling for really young women. I'm not accusing him of anything, OBVIOUSLY, I absolutely adore the man and have the utmost respect for him, but his tastes were somewhat odd in that sense. Of course one could argue that younger women are easier to manipulate, control, etc. Yes. Makes a lot of sense and i believe that's why he always surrounded himself with younger idiolizing females. But no, the Prince-Mayte relationship was not a straightforward one. I have a teenage daughter and I would be questioning what does a 30 something man (a mega star at that!) want to do with a 16 year old girl? What do they talk about? Where do they meet intellectually? It's not uncommon, but it does make you wonder, hence some interviewers standpoint.
So yes, of course he had impure thoughts about her! But if we are to believe him and Mayte, which I do, he was a gentleman and waited. He was also intelligent and savvy and knew all hell would break loose if he got involved with her before she became an adult.

You have to ask yourself how much culpability also lies with Maytes parents.

Oh, I've commented on that before. No way I would allow my daughter to do that.

And like I've said before also, just as much as Prince went after a 16 year old girl a father allowed his 16 year old daughter to accompany a rockstar famous for his sex antics. So there.

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Reply #227 posted 04/07/17 9:57am

starkitty	malbena said: starkitty said: sure there is. i love apples. there's plenty of room. How many threads are referring to her as opposed to the ones for Mayte and Mani? i don't give a shit. i started this one. if she's reading and wants to post, welcome.
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Reply #228 posted 04/07/17 10:00am

starkitty said:

malbena said:

How many threads are referring to her as opposed to the ones for Mayte and Mani?

i don't give a shit. i started this one. if she's reading and wants to post, welcome.

I should have specified she has no much room in the org in general. Not specifically your thread.

You are right however, if this is your thread, she can comment all she likes upon your invitation.

Was the "give a shit" necessary? I was liking how you presented yourself up until now.

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Reply #229 posted 04/07/17 10:17am

endiadj said:
malbena said:

That era has long gone and so has Appolonia. Plastic surgery is not enough. Maybe mentoring, teaching, consulting instead of holding on to once was by bashing on other associates.

Mayte's era was almost 20 years ago, but she's still coming for Prince.

Still better than 37 years (almost twice as much).

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Reply #230 posted 04/07/17 10:55am

laurarichardson said:
PennyPurple said:

If you want to understand more about Prince, I would suggest you read the book, instead of asking those who read the book about the book. And then proceed to argue with the ones who've read the book. Sheesh

--How much money are you getting off of the book? Because you are really working overtime to get people to buy it when there is no reason to. It will be at the dollar store in a year or people can read the boot.

Quit being ignorant. It's pointless and juvenile to come here stating "I won't read the book"...but yet the ones (not you)who haven't read the book want to ask 10 million questions in regards to the book. No one is trying to get anyone to buy the book- but if you're that damn curious as to what's in it, then read the book, already. You've already stated you've got the bootleg, so do your sidekick Billie a favor and send it to her. DAMN!

Furthermore, IF YOU HAVE READ THE BOOK...you ought to be ashamed of yourself for all of the salacious/mysoginistic comments you have made directly about Mayte, the book was NOT written in the negative light you so adamantly stated it would be. Tabloids and rags are just that, smut journalists will do anything for a click, but your rhetoric on vilifying Mayte is quite OLD, and has been DEBUNKED

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Reply #231 posted 04/07/17 10:59am

laurarichardson said:

MMJas said:

Again, I agree with you. Just wrote a similar reply before reading yours.
She handled it very well. Interviews and book. She probably could have said lots of stuff that would really hurt Prince's name and she did not.

The timing of the book has more to do with publishers than with Mayte. They know when to strike and they know exactly when such a book should be released. Mayte herself has stated that whereas before they demanded she exposed some dirt on him, with a tell all, now that he died she was allowed to write the book in her own terms and that's what she did. There is nothing in that book that damages Prince's name. We already knew he was controlling. We already knew he could be a bit of a tyrant. I read the book and got upset at Prince in some instances, sure. But nothing earthshattering that would change my opinion of him. I believe it to be a love story, her love story more than anything, cause she was much younger, it was a tremendously public situation to be in, Prince moulded and shaped her personality as well and she finds it hard to let go.

She exposed things that he obviously did not want the public to know and she did it to put money in her pocket. She could have written a book about her life, struggles with post-partum depression and how she dealt with being sexually abused (which I think is the root of her problem) but she seems to have no self-reflection and no interest on spilling the tea on herself.

Of course, the public may not be interested in her thus no profit motive.

How is it that Sheila E wrote a book about her life and only made mention of Prince for 10 pages and reveled nothing personal about him other than what we (fans) knew about him being a cheater? Because the book was about Sheila E's life not Prince's life.

Mayte had not spoken to him in 10 years ( not sure if I believe that ) was married to him 20 years ago and by everybody's account in did a 180 in his life after she was gone. Just the fact that she hates on his religion and whatever peace he got out it makes me questions her. I honestly think as time goes on we are going to find out we got to have him around another 20 years because of religion.

Please stop with this will not hurt his legacy. Many news outlets are already painting him as a pedophile which was not happening until this book came out.

But yet, Sheila E. is still making bank, touring and using his "symbol"...NEXT

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Reply #232 posted 04/07/17 11:11am

BillieBalloon said:

malbena said:

starkitty said:

malbena said:

Oh and Appolonia, just in case you read this thread, notice how the conversation quickly turned to Mayte and Mani. Yes, again, there is no much room for you in here.

sure there is. i love apples. there's plenty of room.

How many threads are referring to her as opposed to the ones for Mayte and Mani?

Prince.org is a microcosm of the prince community at large and beyond. Apples was in Purple Rain, ask the average guy on the street about Prince, they will say Purple Rain. Ask them if they can name Princes ex wives, they will say no.

PR is an iconic film, Millions saw it.

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Of course Prince and PR is famous across the world,
But when asked who was the lady init or do you know who Appolonia is? ...Not as many.

This is my normal life. These marital standards cannot be recreated with money.

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Reply #233 posted 04/07/17 11:16am

malbena said:
BillieBalloon said:
Prince.org is a microcosm of the prince community at large and beyond. Apples was in Purple Rain, ask the average guy on the street about Prince, they will say Purple Rain. Ask them if they can name Princes ex wives, they will say no. PR is an iconic film, Millions saw it. . [Edited 4/7/17 9:20am] Of course Prince and PR is famous across the world, But when asked who was the lady init or do you know who Appolonia is? ...Not as many.

Not sure why this was posted in your post. Sorry about that!

But here is my response:

Of course Prince and PR is famous across the world,
But when asked who was the lady init or do you know who Appolonia is? ...Not as many

This is my normal life. These marital standards cannot be recreated with money.

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Reply #234 posted 04/07/17 11:20am

starkitty

malbena said:

starkitty said:

malbena said:

How many threads are referring to her as opposed to the ones for Mayte and Mani?

i don't give a shit. i started this one. if she's reading and wants to post, welcome.

I should have specified she has no much room in the org in general. Not specifically your thread.

You are right however, if this is your thread, she can comment all she likes upon your invitation.

Was the "give a shit" necessary? I was liking how you presented yourself up until now.

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Still don't give a shit biggrin

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Reply #235 posted 04/07/17 11:32am

starkitty said:
malbena said:

I should have specified she has no much room in the org in general. Not specifically your thread.

You are right however, if this is your thread, she can comment all she likes upon your invitation.

Was the "give a shit" necessary? I was liking how you presented yourself up until now.

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Still don't give a shit

Bad language for lack of common sense. Please don't stop on my account now I won't reply any further.

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Reply #236 posted 04/07/17 11:55am

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precioux said:

laurarichardson said:

She exposed things that he obviously did not want the public to know and she did it to put money in her pocket. She could have written a book about her life, struggles with post-partum depression and how she dealt with being sexually abused (which I think is the root of her problem) but she seems to have no self-reflection and no interest on spilling the tea on herself.

Of course, the public may not be interested in her thus no profit motive.

How is it that Sheila E wrote a book about her life and only made mention of Prince for 10 pages and reveled nothing personal about him other than what we (fans) knew about him being a cheater? Because the book was about Sheila E's life not Prince's life.

Mayte had not spoken to him in 10 years ( not sure if I believe that ) was married to him 20 years ago and by everybody's account in did a 180 in his life after she was gone. Just the fact that she hates on his religion and whatever peace he got out it makes me questions her. I honestly think as time goes on we are going to find out we got to have him around another 20 years because of religion.

Please stop with this will not hurt his legacy. Many news outlets are already painting him as a pedophile which was not happening until this book came out.

But yet, Sheila E. is still making bank, touring and using his "symbol"...NEXT

They are all making money off of Prince. Every single one that writes a book, composes a song, covers one of his songs, creates a new symbol, puts out a greatest hits compilation with one single unreleased track with no need for a promo video, sells t-shirts, reunite, the lot. Perhaps the ones that aren't able to cash in while riding the purple wave are upset about it? The sentiment behind it is a different think altogether, but make no mistake, they are all making money off him.

Still, I maintain that Mayte has every right to tell her story and she was, no doubt about it, a huge part of his life. Huge. Just watched the Oprah interview again and his love for her is quite obvious. All those saying that Mayte cheated on him as well, after he started going around with that dancer and Mani, and left her in Spain, hence the burning of her stuff, and that she chose to ommit it from her book... surely if that were true something would come out. Plus, Prince can do it but she can't? How does that work?

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Reply #237 posted 04/07/17 12:09pm

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MMJas said:

precioux said:

But yet, Sheila E. is still making bank, touring and using his "symbol"...NEXT

They are all making money off of Prince. Every single one that writes a book, composes a song, covers one of his songs, creates a new symbol, puts out a greatest hits compilation with one single unreleased track with no need for a promo video, sells t-shirts, reunite, the lot. Perhaps the ones that aren't able to cash in while riding the purple wave are upset about it? The sentiment behind it is a different think altogether, but make no mistake, they are all making money off him.

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Still, I maintain that Mayte has every right to tell her story and she was, no doubt about it, a huge part of his life. Huge. Just watched the Oprah interview again and his love for her is quite obvious. All those saying that Mayte cheated on him as well, after he started going around with that dancer and Mani, and left her in Spain, hence the burning of her stuff, and that she chose to ommit it from her book... surely if that were true something would come out. Plus, Prince can do it but she can't? How does that work?

Sigh, Sheila E's book came out back 2014 and she has been touring all along. So have many musicians that worked with him.

Mayte has a right to tell her story but it should be more about her and she is not telling on herself is she. I also think he burned her stuff because she had an affair but I do not think there is anything wrong with it since he was running around however, womanizers do not see it that way.

Remember how Carmen said he flipped out on her because he thought she was seeing someone else. He had a jelous streak a mile wide.

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Reply #238 posted 04/07/17 12:16pm

MMJas said:

precioux said:

laurarichardson said:

She exposed things that he obviously did not want the public to know and she did it to put money in her pocket. She could have written a book about her life, struggles with post-partum depression and how she dealt with being sexually abused (which I think is the root of her problem) but she seems to have no self-reflection and no interest on spilling the tea on herself.

Of course, the public may not be interested in her thus no profit motive.

How is it that Sheila E wrote a book about her life and only made mention of Prince for 10 pages and reveled nothing personal about him other than what we (fans) knew about him being a cheater? Because the book was about Sheila E's life not Prince's life.

Mayte had not spoken to him in 10 years ( not sure if I believe that ) was married to him 20 years ago and by everybody's account in did a 180 in his life after she was gone. Just the fact that she hates on his religion and whatever peace he got out it makes me questions her. I honestly think as time goes on we are going to find out we got to have him around another 20 years because of religion.

Please stop with this will not hurt his legacy. Many news outlets are already painting him as a pedophile which was not happening until this book came out.

But yet, Sheila E. is still making bank, touring and using his "symbol"...NEXT

Exactly! But to vilify someone for "making bank" by using an example of someone (Sheila E) who is continuing to ride the purple wave is at best contradictory.

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Reply #239 posted 04/07/17 12:24pm

laurarichardson said:

MMJas said:

precioux said:

But yet, Sheila E. is still making bank, touring and using his "symbol"...NEXT

They are all making money off of Prince. Every single one that writes a book, composes a song, covers one of his songs, creates a new symbol, puts out a greatest hits compilation with one single unreleased track with no need for a promo video, sells t-shirts, reunite, the lot. Perhaps the ones that aren't able to cash in while riding the purple wave are upset about it? The sentiment behind it is a different think altogether, but make no mistake, they are all making money off him.

*

Still, I maintain that Mayte has every right to tell her story and she was, no doubt about it, a huge part of his life. Huge. Just watched the Oprah interview again and his love for her is quite obvious. All those saying that Mayte cheated on him as well, after he started going around with that dancer and Mani, and left her in Spain, hence the burning of her stuff, and that she chose to ommit it from her book... surely if that were true something would come out. Plus, Prince can do it but she can't? How does that work?

Sigh, Sheila E's book came out back 2014 and she has been touring all along. So have many musicians that worked with him.

Remember how Carmen said he flipped out on her because he thought she was seeing someone else. He had a jelous streak a mile wide.

"I think she burned her own stuff" what are you smoking??? In the unsealed divorce documents, Mani stated "did you burn my things like you did Mayte's in LG backyard?" My God, Laura!

And if you are being so underhanded as to even possibly be referring to the urn, Mayte stated in an interview this morning that Amir's ashes were not given to her in the divorce.

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