tigerlilyluv said:

Fly, I'm not trying to start anything negative. I promise on that. I'm just participating in the discussions is all.

About them not knowing why he overdosed... I didn't think that statement to be worthy of critiquing. But I don't mind explaining. It was only a matter of opinion. They (as in the medical examiner and whoever that was medically involved in the autopsy). If they did know, they didn't reveal it. This, unless proven incorrect, gives me room to specualte like many others here are doing here. Nothing wrong with that, I don't think. As long as no one gets hurt.

It's not uncommon to come across someone that will not agree with your opinion or beliefs. I don't do that back and forward thing and I won't start now. It's not in my character. But I did, however, state that it was my opinion. I try to add that in my posts because I don't want to cause any problems between anyone nor with anyone.


My opinion does not make anything I've stated to be proven accurate and it does not define how Prince nor Vanity may/may not have lived their lives while still on this earth. It's not a complicated matter that some here may believe that a broken heart may have been a part of other things that could have contributed to his death--being sick, addiction, depressed, stressed, lack of nutrition, lack of sleep for 2 weeks, talking with or dreaming about dead people or whatever. If he was already sick, finding out someone you've loved deeply had passed would not help matters one bit. He even lost someone else just before Denise's death.


Aren't we all entitled to our own beliefs, though? No one should be constantly questioned about stating their opinion. I'm not saying this is what you do but I see this kind of stuff going on on forums a lot--especially all over this Prince forum. Going back and forward about this will not resolve to anything positive (imo). That sort of stuff, I believe, can be detrimental to one's soul. It's, without a doubt, depressing to me. So I try to avoid this back-and-forward thing--the reason I told someone it was my last time posting about my beliefs on LRC song.


In fact, this is my first time stating anything in regards to Prince and Denise (in regards to his and her death being close together and why I think he died). You will not find any other post here from me in that specific regard. I haven't asked anyone why they believe what they believe. If I have, I don't recall. I can't even keep up with stuff posted here. I don't even think I've ever spoken about "twin-flames" or them being soul mates. Though, yesterday (before the topic disappeared) I did read it in that info TOB shared of Denise's book or whatever it was where she said she didn't know if their relationship was demonically connected or angelically, and something about soul mates. But, I know nothing about Twin Flames or Soul mates. I've only heard of the term "soul mates" and only heard of "Twin Flames" after Prince's death from Prince's fans. I've never tried to understand it and I don't read astrology stuff--being I have no interest in obtaining knowledge about that.


Asked if we believe they were soul mates because they died close together... No, that is not why I believe that their death wasn't "just a coincidence". But I don't think my opinion matters much, anyway. It's no big deal.


About the chef... I did "hear" him say this in one of those interviews. I've got so much saved on both my laptops, on an external hard-drive, and on 2 of my cell phones (I really do) regarding Prince and Vanity. I'd be searching all day to check if I saved that interview. My words weren't verbatim but he said something of 1 1/2 to 2 months that P was on liquids only. He also said something about P not being able to keep food down and sore throat. I haven't read anything. We already know that not every article or interview has the exact same information. Even Prince's sister said some conflicting stuff in 2 different interviews.


This forum is more complicated to me than learning anything about Prince's life. That's sad.

FlyOnTheWall said:

[Edited 1/25/17 12:08pm]

I understand. Have fun, tigerlilyluv. I was just wondering if you were perhaps hinting that the overdose was something other than accidental. I'm glad you cleared that up. Now, carry on. I don't want to be disruptive to the thread. I was just curious.

FlyOnTheWall said:

tigerlilyluv said:

Fly, I'm not trying to start anything negative. I promise on that. I'm just participating in the discussions is all.

About them not knowing why he overdosed... I didn't think that statement to be worthy of critiquing. But I don't mind explaining. It was only a matter of opinion. They (as in the medical examiner and whoever that was medically involved in the autopsy). If they did know, they didn't reveal it. This, unless proven incorrect, gives me room to specualte like many others here are doing here. Nothing wrong with that, I don't think. As long as no one gets hurt.

It's not uncommon to come across someone that will not agree with your opinion or beliefs. I don't do that back and forward thing and I won't start now. It's not in my character. But I did, however, state that it was my opinion. I try to add that in my posts because I don't want to cause any problems between anyone nor with anyone.


My opinion does not make anything I've stated to be proven accurate and it does not define how Prince nor Vanity may/may not have lived their lives while still on this earth. It's not a complicated matter that some here may believe that a broken heart may have been a part of other things that could have contributed to his death--being sick, addiction, depressed, stressed, lack of nutrition, lack of sleep for 2 weeks, talking with or dreaming about dead people or whatever. If he was already sick, finding out someone you've loved deeply had passed would not help matters one bit. He even lost someone else just before Denise's death.


Aren't we all entitled to our own beliefs, though? No one should be constantly questioned about stating their opinion. I'm not saying this is what you do but I see this kind of stuff going on on forums a lot--especially all over this Prince forum. Going back and forward about this will not resolve to anything positive (imo). That sort of stuff, I believe, can be detrimental to one's soul. It's, without a doubt, depressing to me. So I try to avoid this back-and-forward thing--the reason I told someone it was my last time posting about my beliefs on LRC song.


In fact, this is my first time stating anything in regards to Prince and Denise (in regards to his and her death being close together and why I think he died). You will not find any other post here from me in that specific regard. I haven't asked anyone why they believe what they believe. If I have, I don't recall. I can't even keep up with stuff posted here. I don't even think I've ever spoken about "twin-flames" or them being soul mates. Though, yesterday (before the topic disappeared) I did read it in that info TOB shared of Denise's book or whatever it was where she said she didn't know if their relationship was demonically connected or angelically, and something about soul mates. But, I know nothing about Twin Flames or Soul mates. I've only heard of the term "soul mates" and only heard of "Twin Flames" after Prince's death from Prince's fans. I've never tried to understand it and I don't read astrology stuff--being I have no interest in obtaining knowledge about that.


Asked if we believe they were soul mates because they died close together... No, that is not why I believe that their death wasn't "just a coincidence". But I don't think my opinion matters much, anyway. It's no big deal.


About the chef... I did "hear" him say this in one of those interviews. I've got so much saved on both my laptops, on an external hard-drive, and on 2 of my cell phones (I really do) regarding Prince and Vanity. I'd be searching all day to check if I saved that interview. My words weren't verbatim but he said something of 1 1/2 to 2 months that P was on liquids only. He also said something about P not being able to keep food down and sore throat. I haven't read anything. We already know that not every article or interview has the exact same information. Even Prince's sister said some conflicting stuff in 2 different interviews.


This forum is more complicated to me than learning anything about Prince's life. That's sad.

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I understand. Have fun, tigerlilyluv. I was just wondering if you were perhaps hinting that the overdose was something other than accidental. I'm glad you cleared that up. Now, carry on. I don't want to be disruptive to the thread. I was just curious.

Yeah, I was wondering about that. Wasn't trying to start a debate or argument (been there, done that) Just trying to get some insight on what "brought it on", cause prior to his death, I couldn't find any threads on her on the Org. or anybody saying anything about the "soulmate" thing. Thanks a bunch for clearing that up.

Peach & Black Podcast's Vanity 6's Album Review Jan 2017 Edition https://www.youtube.com/u...ast/videos

Thanks Goddess. Needless to say... They did not like 3x2=6.
How dare them...

luvgirl said:

Thanks Goddess. Needless to say... They did not like 3x2=6. How dare them...

I love all the songs......the album is a classic!

Goddess4Real said:

Yup, I always feel like I know something special that other people don't when I'm listening to that album. Current favorite. 3x2=6

luvgirl said:

Goddess4Real said:

I love all the songs......the album is a classic!

Yup, I always feel like I know something special that other people don't when I'm listening to that album. Current favorite. 3x2=6

Mine is.....If A Girl Answers (Don't Hang Up) and the live version of these songs are awesome too Vanity 6 was everything....along with Prince and The Time in 1982/83 my all-time fav era.

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TOB said:

Her existence made a significant difference in my life... and the lives of many others.

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[Edited 1/24/17 19:24pm]

I saw below that you had posted (then edited it out) a poem you had written for Denise. Would love to see some of the poems that have been inspired by your wife?

I hope the missing thread comes back.

Vashtix said:

I hope so too. It had such good information in it about Denise's early days. Also, there are a few questions with the last upload of pages from her book that I wanted to ask. What we've read so far seemed to be the beginning of her time with Prince as well and I would love to read her Point of view on how everything played out in the end.
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benni said:

TOB said:

Her existence made a significant difference in my life... and the lives of many others.

[Edited 1/4/17 12:39pm]

[Edited 1/24/17 19:24pm]

I saw below that you had posted (then edited it out) a poem you had written for Denise. Would love to see some of the poems that have been inspired by your wife?

luvgirl said:

It was fun reading her point of view for a change and not 3rd, 4th , 5th hand versions or revisionist recollections from someone with an agenda.
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Love this picture of them. Rude boy/Nasty Girl


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luvgirl said:

The original Beautiful Ones. Their story is part of the Prince mystique for the ages.

Vashtix said:

Yes, the beautiful ones.. I just got choked up posting it and writing Rude boy/ Nasty girl. They were something special those two...

luvgirl said:

Friends 4ever
Only fitting his most lasting impression by the public was work inspired during their association.
In my opinion they inspired one another for better or worse. They were equals.

Vashtix said:

luvgirl said:

Love this picture of them. Rude boy/Nasty Girl [Edited 1/25/17 18:44pm]

The original Beautiful Ones. Their story is part of the Prince mystique for the ages.

My favorite out of the few pics of them out there. It's so candid, so serious.. I wonder what they were talking about? Denise looks like she's in mid-sentence and Prince appears to be giving that "leave us alone" look to the person who shot this pic.

[Edited 1/25/17 19:01pm]

purplegirl00 said:

Mirrors, twin flames, Beautiful Ones , Doves, artists who were loving one another deeply.

purplegirl00 said:

He looked like he might of had his arm around her.
They were so beautiful.

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luvgirl said:

He is hot as can be here and she is just gorgeous. Can you imagine the love-making between these two? Twin flames, yes.
Denise said that Prince was the only man she ever truly loved.
If I ever was given a choice of who to see him with it would be been her.
JJ said that there was no doubt Denise really cared about Prince.
And he never forgot her.
I think she was the one he always had in his mind as his perfect image.

anangellooksdown said:

luvgirl said:

He looked like he might of had his arm around her. They were so beautiful.

He is hot as can be here and she is just gorgeous. Can you imagine the love-making between these two? Twin flames, yes. Denise said that Prince was the only man she ever truly loved. If I ever was given a choice of who to see him with it would be been her. JJ said that there was no doubt Denise really cared about Prince. And he never forgot her. I think she was the one he always had in his mind as his perfect image.

That is an interesting concept. I do think of them as on a higher level than the sensual . They have transitioned to the next level their flames still burning parallel but now in peace.

Vashtix said:

In this world those that love hard, hurt hard too.

purplegirl00 said:

Vashtix said:

That is an interesting concept. I do think of them as on a higher level than the sensual . They have transitioned to the next level their flames still burning parallel but now in peace.

In this world those that love hard, hurt hard too.

*mic drop*

purplegirl00 said:

"Even though I tried my best to ignore him, he was always secured in my face. With the battle of our tongues we ripped each other to pieces. It was a case of a love hate relationship. Unsure if this relationship was demonically controlled or angelically laced together as soul mates."


That was deep...

luvgirl said:

purplegirl00 said:

In this world those that love hard, hurt hard too.

"Even though I tried my best to ignore him, he was always secured in my face. With the battle of our tongues we ripped each other to pieces. It was a case of a love hate relationship. Unsure if this relationship was demonically controlled or angelically laced together as soul mates." That was deep...

FlyOnTheWall said:

I think it's true that Prince, at one time, loved Vanity deeply, as he stated at the time of her passing. He was visibly moved when he dedicated "Little Red Corvette" to her that night in Melbourne, Australia. That said, there is absolutely no evidence that Prince "died of a broken heart." According to the medical examiner, he died of an accidental overdose.

And then you said on your " Prince was engaged to Andy Allo " thread that - during the Piano and Microphone tour - everytime Prince said the words " she, we or us " you " believed " he was talking about Andy. And that's why he was extremely emotional. You " believed " that he was emotional because he was pining for AA . What ?? Denise had died 9 weeks before he did, and you'd best believe that every night of that tour that he sat up there and sang, he was thinking about only her, and not just in Melbourne. He dedicated way more songs to Denise than just LRC, he told stories too. Andy, well, he only mentored her like the rest of them, she was no big deal, the usual filler. But he loved Denise - and that narrative is insulting to me as a 38 year Prince fan who has seen it all. I love Prince so much, and it's very insulting to him as well as his feelings to have someone wrongly assume he was so shallow. That he was wishing some 25 year old would " come back " to him ( when he let her go ) instead of what was really happening - that he was grieving for someone who meant so much to him in life. Really ? Prince loved Vanity " at one time ". Insulting.

And btw, Prince was not a drug addict. And you don't need " evidence " to die of a broken heart. You just do.

ChanGirl said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I think it's true that Prince, at one time, loved Vanity deeply, as he stated at the time of her passing. He was visibly moved when he dedicated "Little Red Corvette" to her that night in Melbourne, Australia. That said, there is absolutely no evidence that Prince "died of a broken heart." According to the medical examiner, he died of an accidental overdose.

And then you said on your " Prince was engaged to Andy Allo " thread that - during the Piano and Microphone tour - everytime Prince said the words " she, we or us " you " believed " he was talking about Andy. And that's why he was extremely emotional. You " believed " that he was emotional because he was pining for AA . What ?? Denise had died 9 weeks before he did, and you'd best believe that every night of that tour that he sat up there and sang, he was thinking about only her, and not just in Melbourne. He dedicated way more songs to Denise than just LRC, he told stories too. Andy, well, he only mentored her like the rest of them, she was no big deal, the usual filler. But he loved Denise - and that narrative is insulting to me as a 38 year Prince fan who has seen it all. I love Prince so much, and it's very insulting to him as well as his feelings to have someone wrongly assume he was so shallow. That he was wishing some 25 year old would " come back " to him ( when he let her go ) instead of what was really happening - that he was grieving for someone who meant so much to him in life. Really ? Prince loved Vanity " at one time ". Insulting.

And btw, Prince was not a drug addict. And you don't need " evidence " to die of a broken heart. You just do.

As I stated on the Prince and Andy Betrothal thread, it was an obvious exception when he did a tribute to Vanity/Denise. He called her by name, so there was no doubt to whom he was referring. He said the following.

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Can I tell you a story about Vanity? Or should I tell you a story about Denise? Her and I used to love each other deeply," Prince said. "She loved me for the artist I was, I loved her for the artist she was trying to be. She and I would fight. She was very headstrong 'cause she knew she was the finest woman in the world. She never missed an opportunity to tell you that.

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BTW: I don't think Prince was a drug addict, either. I was simply stating what the medical examiner's report says.

I couldn't find the thread where I shared this screenshot. Now that I've found a copy on my pc, I thought I'd post it in this thread. I believe this person. Also, "Use to love each other deeply" doesn't mean he no longer loved her.

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anangellooksdown said:

Can you imagine the love-making between these two?

Right at this moment I can picture Vanity giving him that mad sex.