endiadj said:

If Mani was the one that cheated in the marriage and filed for divorce, why did Prince have to pay her millions in the settlement? Why was Tamar called to give a deposition allegedly?

I think Prince was deeply in love with Manuela. He probably felt that she deserved the settlement she received. This is another reason why I think Manuela does not want their divorce settlement disclosed, because Mayte did not get anything -- and obviously that will cause some issues and more drama!!

endiadj said:

We have no idea what she got in the settlement? Minn is a no fault divorce state you do not have to state any reason for divorce but she may have made an allegation to try and get more money. I belive the state is community property so she was going to get something and remember she did not have a nickel to her name.

cloveringold85 said:

BlackBall said:

People aren't always jealous when they don't like something/someone. That is the simplified "reasoning" of 5th graders. I can't stand superficial money/fame grubbing dingbats like Mayte, MT or most of the long list of his sex objects because they were ignorant, talentless, oportunists who I would never give the time of day. However, following him meant being exposed to trash and the atrocious stripper dancing of Mayte whose main move consisted of thrusting her ass in his face. Go Mayte with your "female empowerment"! The fact that ppl continue to feel sorry for her shows how well her victim routine works. The only victim these days is her poor daughter whom she has used to try and fill the empty void in her life. Clearly Mayte manipulated P. into marriage thru "accidently" getting pregnant at the very time he was talking of marrying Nona Gaye. Is it any wonder he had hostility towards her that may have come out after the fetus died? No sweet "innocent" or loving person manipulates someone into marriage. He replaced M. with a slightly more intelligent (if u count calculating as intelligence) version with MT but she was no better or worse, just more of the same talentless starfuckers he attracted due to his goodheart and insecurities. Frankly, Bria is the ONLY one who has shown any class and was the one (who even at the time he was with her) seemed a bit different but not enough. Poor P. all this from those who claim to love him sooo much but were just parasites who now continue to feed off his fame.

Tell it like it is!! I agree with you, 100%. People try to paint Mayte as a victim, but she's not. Listen to "Man O War" -- I think Prince is referring to Mayte. Prince was good to her. Mayte was devestated when Prince left her, and I feel bad about that, but Mayte went on to date Tommy Lee, of all people! Now, come on!! A "good girl" doesn't date someone like that, imo!! Like you said, both Mayte and Manuela used Prince, one way or another. Prince did not want the divorce from Manuela. I'm not sure what happened between him and Bria, but she married someone in the JW. Maybe Prince was too much for her to handle?

So Mayte is not a victim because Prince sang some potentially auto-biographical lyrics in Man O' War?

Do you really want to go down that path of analysis?

OK... so how about Prince putting Mani in the Come On video in 1998 and saying he wants to butter her muffin? Is that admission of the affair he was in fact carrying out at that same time? How about a few years earlier making Nona Gaye, his girlfriend at the time, film videos where Prince acted like he was actually banging Mayte (which it turned out he was of course).

If we start accusing ex-WAGs of infidelity based on Prince lyrics, we're going to have a pot meet kettle situation on our hands pretty quick.

BanishedBrian said:

cloveringold85 said:

Tell it like it is!! I agree with you, 100%. People try to paint Mayte as a victim, but she's not. Listen to "Man O War" -- I think Prince is referring to Mayte. Prince was good to her. Mayte was devestated when Prince left her, and I feel bad about that, but Mayte went on to date Tommy Lee, of all people! Now, come on!! A "good girl" doesn't date someone like that, imo!! Like you said, both Mayte and Manuela used Prince, one way or another. Prince did not want the divorce from Manuela. I'm not sure what happened between him and Bria, but she married someone in the JW. Maybe Prince was too much for her to handle?

So Mayte is not a victim because Prince sang some potentially auto-biographical lyrics in Man O' War?

Do you really want to go down that path of analysis?

OK... so how about Prince putting Mani in the Come On video in 1998 and saying he wants to butter her muffin? Is that admission of the affair he was in fact carrying out at that same time? How about a few years earlier making Nona Gaye, his girlfriend at the time, film videos where Prince acted like he was actually banging Mayte (which it turned out he was of course).

If we start accusing ex-WAGs of infidelity based on Prince lyrics, we're going to have a pot meet kettle situation on our hands pretty quick.

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Banished: No, you are taking what I said the wrong way. All I was referring to in that lyric is that Prince didn't want to fight with Mayte. He just wanted a "clean" break.

I didn't say anything about who cheated on who. I read the stories about how Prince cheated on Mayte during their relationship/marriage. Yes, I know about his affair with Manuela.

I know all about Prince and Nona -- he was supposed to get engaged with her, but got engaged with Mayte instead. I'm not saying what he did was right. Love can make you do some really stupid things sometimes.

cloveringold85 said:

& Denise (vanity) went on to date & etc. with nikki sixx.. I'm sorry, I'm not understanding the point you're trying to prove..

cloveringold85 said:

endiadj said:

If Mani was the one that cheated in the marriage and filed for divorce, why did Prince have to pay her millions in the settlement? Why was Tamar called to give a deposition allegedly?

I think Prince was deeply in love with Manuela. He probably felt that she deserved the settlement she received. This is another reason why I think Manuela does not want their divorce settlement disclosed, because Mayte did not get anything -- and obviously that will cause some issues and more drama!!

It would be sad to me if Mani got millions to Mayte's peanuts , supposedly, being that Mayte went through hell and back with Prince and for twice as long. She went through the lean years, the start of the WB battle and the loss of two kids with him. If anyone deserved millions in a settelment, it's her.

cloveringold85 said:

BanishedBrian said:

So Mayte is not a victim because Prince sang some potentially auto-biographical lyrics in Man O' War?

Do you really want to go down that path of analysis?

OK... so how about Prince putting Mani in the Come On video in 1998 and saying he wants to butter her muffin? Is that admission of the affair he was in fact carrying out at that same time? How about a few years earlier making Nona Gaye, his girlfriend at the time, film videos where Prince acted like he was actually banging Mayte (which it turned out he was of course).

If we start accusing ex-WAGs of infidelity based on Prince lyrics, we're going to have a pot meet kettle situation on our hands pretty quick.

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Banished: No, you are taking what I said the wrong way. All I was referring to in that lyric is that Prince didn't want to fight with Mayte. He just wanted a "clean" break.

I didn't say anything about who cheated on who. I read the stories about how Prince cheated on Mayte during their relationship/marriage. Yes, I know about his affair with Manuela.

I know all about Prince and Nona -- he was supposed to get engaged with her, but got engaged with Mayte instead. I'm not saying what he did was right. Love can make you do some really stupid things sometimes.

OK, but how does the fact that didn't want to fight with Mayte mean that she is not a victim? If Prince cheated on her and she was angry, why does the fact that Prince didn't want to fight mean she loses her victimhood?

BlackBall said:

I don't know if Amir (not "the fetus") was a full-term baby or not, but even if he was, Mayte would have only been a few weeks pregnant when she and Prince got married, and likely didn't know yet. So your assertion that Mayte trapped Prince is nonsense.

Kara said:

BlackBall said:

People aren't always jealous when they don't like something/someone. That is the simplified "reasoning" of 5th graders. I can't stand superficial money/fame grubbing dingbats like Mayte, MT or most of the long list of his sex objects because they were ignorant, talentless, oportunists who I would never give the time of day. However, following him meant being exposed to trash and the atrocious stripper dancing of Mayte whose main move consisted of thrusting her ass in his face. Go Mayte with your "female empowerment"! The fact that ppl continue to feel sorry for her shows how well her victim routine works. The only victim these days is her poor daughter whom she has used to try and fill the empty void in her life. Clearly Mayte manipulated P. into marriage thru "accidently" getting pregnant at the very time he was talking of marrying Nona Gaye. Is it any wonder he had hostility towards her that may have come out after the fetus died? No sweet "innocent" or loving person manipulates someone into marriage. He replaced M. with a slightly more intelligent (if u count calculating as intelligence) version with MT but she was no better or worse, just more of the same talentless starfuckers he attracted due to his goodheart and insecurities. Frankly, Bria is the ONLY one who has shown any class and was the one (who even at the time he was with her) seemed a bit different but not enough. Poor P. all this from those who claim to love him sooo much but were just parasites who now continue to feed off his fame.

I don't know if Amir (not "the fetus") was a full-term baby or not, but even if he was, Mayte would have only been a few weeks pregnant when she and Prince got married, and likely didn't know yet. So your assertion that Mayte trapped Prince is nonsense.

Agreed. Further, the Valentine's Day wedding required planning. Prince composed and recorded songs in advance. When you run the timeline, it is impossible that Mayte became pregnant before Prince was at least planning the wedding.

Kara said:

BlackBall said:

People aren't always jealous when they don't like something/someone. That is the simplified "reasoning" of 5th graders. I can't stand superficial money/fame grubbing dingbats like Mayte, MT or most of the long list of his sex objects because they were ignorant, talentless, oportunists who I would never give the time of day. However, following him meant being exposed to trash and the atrocious stripper dancing of Mayte whose main move consisted of thrusting her ass in his face. Go Mayte with your "female empowerment"! The fact that ppl continue to feel sorry for her shows how well her victim routine works. The only victim these days is her poor daughter whom she has used to try and fill the empty void in her life. Clearly Mayte manipulated P. into marriage thru "accidently" getting pregnant at the very time he was talking of marrying Nona Gaye. Is it any wonder he had hostility towards her that may have come out after the fetus died? No sweet "innocent" or loving person manipulates someone into marriage. He replaced M. with a slightly more intelligent (if u count calculating as intelligence) version with MT but she was no better or worse, just more of the same talentless starfuckers he attracted due to his goodheart and insecurities. Frankly, Bria is the ONLY one who has shown any class and was the one (who even at the time he was with her) seemed a bit different but not enough. Poor P. all this from those who claim to love him sooo much but were just parasites who now continue to feed off his fame.

I don't know if Amir (not "the fetus") was a full-term baby or not, but even if he was, Mayte would have only been a few weeks pregnant when she and Prince got married, and likely didn't know yet. So your assertion that Mayte trapped Prince is nonsense.

Agree. And they obviously tried again, so the 'trapped' theory doesn't seem to hold water.

Kara said:

--/ Ahmir lived for one week.

laurarichardson said:

I know. I don't know how far along Mayte was when he was born.

This is some really deep analysis of a man and his marriages.

I think in the end, Prince had two marriages that didn't work out. We don't know the REAL reasons why. We are just assuming.

And we really don't know what kind of boyfriend/husband Prince really was. He had a lot of these whipped and they don't say anything negative about this man.

The only Women that really had the balls to say something about how Prince was is Wendy & Lisa. And he wasn't fucking them so they have a real good perspective.

All these other chicks; from his HS girlfriends all the way down to Tamron & Judith, this man had these chicks WHIPPED!

GhostChick said:

This is some really deep analysis of a man and his marriages.

I think in the end, Prince had two marriages that didn't work out. We don't know the REAL reasons why. We are just assuming.

And we really don't know what kind of boyfriend/husband Prince really was. He had a lot of these whipped and they don't say anything negative about this man.

The only Women that really had the balls to say something about how Prince was is Wendy & Lisa. And he wasn't fucking them so they have a real good perspective.

All these other chicks; from his HS girlfriends all the way down to Tamron & Judith, this man had these chicks WHIPPED!

(in bold).

The only two people who know are the two in the marriage...and they will have different perspectives (sometimes dramatically so).

GhostChick said:

This is some really deep analysis of a man and his marriages.

I think in the end, Prince had two marriages that didn't work out. We don't know the REAL reasons why. We are just assuming.

And we really don't know what kind of boyfriend/husband Prince really was. He had a lot of these whipped and they don't say anything negative about this man.

The only Women that really had the balls to say something about how Prince was is Wendy & Lisa. And he wasn't fucking them so they have a real good perspective.

All these other chicks; from his HS girlfriends all the way down to Tamron & Judith, this man had these chicks WHIPPED!

You claim none of us know the truth and we're all just assuming, and then you go on to psychoanalyze, among others, Mani and Prince's relationship and claim she was the whipped one.

[Edited 8/26/16 16:34pm]

Kara said:

laurarichardson said:

--/ Ahmir lived for one week.

I know. I don't know how far along Mayte was when he was born.

They didn't even get a chance to really be married to each other before tragedy struck. Whose marriage really could survive that? But they hung on for a few years.

It was reported that amir was premature. Likely no more than a month.


Can i ask why everyone assumes that the exes r "whipped"? Maybe they are just past caring. Maybe it's too far in the distance. All of them, save Anna who did talk, were under contractbefore during their sexual relationships. Of course they couldn't talk. Now they feel protective.this is not complicated.

Kara said:

I read that the baby was due in November and was born in October. They were married in February, so she could have gotten pregnant right after the wedding. I've never heard that she tricked him into getting married by getting pregnant.

wavesofbliss said:

It was reported that amir was premature. Likely no more than a month. Can i ask why everyone assumes that the exes r "whipped"? Maybe they are just past caring. Maybe it's too far in the distance. All of them, save Anna who did talk, were under contractbefore during their sexual relationships. Of course they couldn't talk. Now they feel protective.this is not complicated.

[Edited 8/26/16 19:19pm]

wavesofbliss said:

It was reported that amir was premature. Likely no more than a month. Can i ask why everyone assumes that the exes r "whipped"? Maybe they are just past caring. Maybe it's too far in the distance. All of them, save Anna who did talk, were under contractbefore during their sexual relationships. Of course they couldn't talk. Now they feel protective.this is not complicated.

Well, I was just agreeing with the part about us not really knowing what happened with either of P's marriages. :/

I really don't know if his exes were "whipped" or not. People move on in life and still care about past boyfriends and/or husbands. Not unusual at all.

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Sorry for the double post. It did something weird and then I tried to fix it.

[Edited 8/26/16 19:21pm]

BanishedBrian said:

I got pregnant after a night of loving with my husband on Valentine's day & my baby was due in November. It's very much possible. If she was due in November & had him in the middle of October he was early & she could've gotten pregnant after she got married.

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

BanishedBrian said:

cloveringold85 said:

Tell it like it is!! I agree with you, 100%. People try to paint Mayte as a victim, but she's not. Listen to "Man O War" -- I think Prince is referring to Mayte. Prince was good to her. Mayte was devestated when Prince left her, and I feel bad about that, but Mayte went on to date Tommy Lee, of all people! Now, come on!! A "good girl" doesn't date someone like that, imo!! Like you said, both Mayte and Manuela used Prince, one way or another. Prince did not want the divorce from Manuela. I'm not sure what happened between him and Bria, but she married someone in the JW. Maybe Prince was too much for her to handle?

So Mayte is not a victim because Prince sang some potentially auto-biographical lyrics in Man O' War?

Do you really want to go down that path of analysis?

OK... so how about Prince putting Mani in the Come On video in 1998 and saying he wants to butter her muffin? Is that admission of the affair he was in fact carrying out at that same time? How about a few years earlier making Nona Gaye, his girlfriend at the time, film videos where Prince acted like he was actually banging Mayte (which it turned out he was of course).

If we start accusing ex-WAGs of infidelity based on Prince lyrics, we're going to have a pot meet kettle situation on our hands pretty quick.

I don't have a horse in this race, I just wanted to comment on the Come On video...I was able to dig it up and sure enough, there's Manuela at the end! She would have been, what, 19/20 there? I had no idea her presence went back that far. I know she got into the PP world and worked her way up (all the way to the top, one might say), but dang...1998? Wow. Does make you wonder what kind of...er...overlapping may have been going on.

MT would have been 22. The overlapping is typical of p. Smh

wavesofbliss said:

MT would have been 22. The overlapping is typical of p. Smh

If they married in '01/'02 (NYE) when she was 24, she would have been 20ish in 1998 depending on when her birthday fell. *If* the Come On video was in fact in 1998 and that was in fact her (my 90's P musical knowledge is currently in development.), though it sure does look like her. She looked and acted like a giggling child in that video. Prince was 40 and still married to Mayte (whether legally or 'spiritually').

Overlapping indeed. I'll share in with your smh.

As someone who is very guarded, if I knew what I knew about P and had ever been in the position of romance with him, I think it'd be extremely hard for me to ever trust him, and to jump in with my whole heart. His relationships all seemed to have had a pre-determined expiration date on them before they had even really begun. He'd be in the Friend Zone fo sho.

LBrent said:

1Sasha said:

Excellent message to Jill. Just perfect as it is. Thank you for writing it.

It was a nice gesture. I just wish that when she saw what made her uncomfortable she would have been more proactive in putting her feelings into action. I'm not placing any blame on her, but I think we all wish things could've ended differently. I wish her peace.

Exactly. He needed someone to step in and help him. It was dire...but everyone close enough just tip-toed. One day could've made the difference, just by one day.

LBrent said:

LOL that's funny...not even the judge fell for that "privacy" thing! Who's she trying to fool?

fanoftheman said:

sad and true!

strawberrylova123 said:

And those who were extra close to him for years - they're not cashing in on his death. They're still devastated!

Krystalkisses said:

It was mostly about image because in public he liked being seen with the young crowd but those he admired and had utmost respect were older and they were very much part of his private life.