teach49 said:

It seems many people, ousted from Prince's inner circle, share a bond with each other. They loved him, they devoted themselves to him and his art, and then he heartlessly kicked them to the curb. Now, MT might not have suffered as much, from what I have read here in other posts, but he was damaged goods from childhood. Princess Diana reportedly cut off people the same way, and she was damaged goods from childhood. Of course, perhaps not all of the blame should be put on Prince, but a fair amount of it should. He is gone now. And they have to let him go. Nothing can be changed now. No reconciliations can occur. It is too late.

malbena said:

I've read this thread about entirely. I guess fans will never know what happened behind close doors and we can only speculate about all the relationships our beloved Prince had. Whether he was married or not, whether some relationships were known or not, whether they lasted long or not, whether there were ulterior motives from both parties or not, are details feeding analysis of such an admired man. Some of these women are inspiring in a way thus leading fans to advocate for them. Who knows how long that last boat of musicians and women lastly involved would have lasted either.

In the end, what I take away is the versatile Prince who would follow his vision and live in the moment. His life were all in stages from the moment he was born until he died in pursuit of happiness in each and every stage.

I say, ultimately, you all fans are his only true love as you have all lasted longer than some of his women. You also were blessed with him not breaking your heart and allowing you to see only what gifts he wanted you to see and you were always let in. He loved you!!!! while he ended up in bad terms with some women and musicians who had the opportunity to know him no matter what is said in public to look good and remain under the lime light he owned.

My message to you all is: You are great and you were blessed with loving him. Enjoy all the positive he gave you and made your life worth seeing through his eyes. Forget the drama that will never end, the bad people who will fight to be THE ONE (musician, friend, or others).

Peace!

Malbena: That was just beautiful.

luvparade said:

anangellooksdown said:

We all have the fear of dying alone -- which is one main reason we are all grieving so badly for Prince. We identify our fears of this with the way he did die -- at least that one ight, he was alone.

Krystal, great insight I think, to the psyche stuff. I have felt that simpley, Prince wanted both. He wanted a spiritually matured partner whom he could trust and be attracted to in that way (spirituality is VERY sexy when it's actualized)...but he also wanted the beauty of youth, the pure, virgin-like, let-me-teach-her thing.

The obvious problem is someone 24 years old simply does not have the life experience to be the woman his heart really wanted, but an older woman did not have the things of a 24-year-old.

it would've been nice if he found someone in their early 40s who was experienced and spiritual but still youthful. I think it would've taken a very special woman to really keep him -- but it was absolutely possible.

I wonder a lot if it's true what I've read here once or twice, that Prince looked so sad those last months, and if some of that wasn't just the physical pain - but the fact his Lady didn't show up.

Who was she? Did she really know and then not show up? That is so sad especially if he didn't talk to her to let her know and she might have just have been waiting for him to give her his hand and away they'd go. I heard he was shy in person, could he have been so shy not to tell her?

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The topic of Prince's "love life" comes up quite a bit. I think Prince was very fond of Tamron Hall (NBC news achor/journalist). She is more mature than other women P hung around. Supposedly Prince spoke to her every day. I think Prince loved being around younger, beautiful woman, and also because they were "aspiring artists", and Prince loved colaborating and working with young artists (female). I don't think these young women could really give Prince what he really wanted; "unconditional love". I think a lot of these younger women were just "along for the ride". At Prince's age (57), you get to a point in life where you need "more" out of a relationship -- it's not just about sex or physical attraction, it's much deeper than that. I think Prince truly loved Manuela and he did not want the divorce. I don't want to think Prince was sad in the last few months of his life. I know he was devastated by the loss of Denise (Vanity). I'm sure he got "sad", just like the rest of us. I think he was happiest when he was being "creative" and creating music, performing and connecting with his fans. Music was his life. He created a lot of beautiful music at PP, and that is where he shall always remain. I always go back to thinking "if only he had that special someone in his life to be by his side." He knows how much we all love him, and that is priceless.

206Michelle said:

CROWNS1 said:

MT doesn't want people to know how much she got in the settlement. Doesn't want to look like a gold digger. I'm sure she is a wonderful person, wife, mother etc etc etc and all the schools she builds are great wonderful etc etc. But when she pursued a married man and didn't stop until she got him...that is a woman to beware of. Just my opinion. I think the worse thing that will come out in the divorce papers is the amount of money she made off of him.

I hear that a lot of people thing she went after a married man and I'm not going to comment on that because I don't know how true/not true it is that she did. But if Mani did go after Prince while he was married to Mayte, then why would she and Mayte be friends now? I mean the two of them put on that tribute concert in LA for Prince. If Mani was a homewrecker, wouldn't it make sense that she and Mayte would be at each other's throats instead of getting along with each other?

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And, don't forget Manuela and Mayte were both on that reality show "Hollywood Ex's" -- now talk about STRANGE!! Pesonally, I would not be cozying-up with any of P's exes, ESPECIALLY if they were fooling around with my Husband!! Hello??!!!! LOL

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cloveringold85 said:

luvparade said:

Who was she? Did she really know and then not show up? That is so sad especially if he didn't talk to her to let her know and she might have just have been waiting for him to give her his hand and away they'd go. I heard he was shy in person, could he have been so shy not to tell her?

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The topic of Prince's "love life" comes up quite a bit. I think Prince was very fond of Tamron Hall (NBC news achor/journalist). She is more mature than other women P hung around. Supposedly Prince spoke to her every day. I think Prince loved being around younger, beautiful woman, and also because they were "aspiring artists", and Prince loved colaborating and working with young artists (female). I don't think these young women could really give Prince what he really wanted; "unconditional love". I think a lot of these younger women were just "along for the ride". At Prince's age (57), you get to a point in life where you need "more" out of a relationship -- it's not just about sex or physical attraction, it's much deeper than that. I think Prince truly loved Manuela and he did not want the divorce. I don't want to think Prince was sad in the last few months of his life. I know he was devastated by the loss of Denise (Vanity). I'm sure he got "sad", just like the rest of us. I think he was happiest when he was being "creative" and creating music, performing and connecting with his fans. Music was his life. He created a lot of beautiful music at PP, and that is where he shall always remain. I always go back to thinking "if only he had that special someone in his life to be by his side." He knows how much we all love him, and that is priceless.

I really like your post and agree with much of it. I too think he loved Manuela a lot, he seemed happy and peaceful when he was with her. He made a lot of sacrifices to live the life of a prolific musician/entertainer whether conciously or unconciously...

Krystalkisses said:

malbena said:

I knew about Jill posting that but I'm surprised to read about Mani mentioning something to that effect.

What did Mani say, malbena?

Never mind I re-read the original post...

Krystalkisses said:

cloveringold85 said:

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The topic of Prince's "love life" comes up quite a bit. I think Prince was very fond of Tamron Hall (NBC news achor/journalist). She is more mature than other women P hung around. Supposedly Prince spoke to her every day. I think Prince loved being around younger, beautiful woman, and also because they were "aspiring artists", and Prince loved colaborating and working with young artists (female). I don't think these young women could really give Prince what he really wanted; "unconditional love". I think a lot of these younger women were just "along for the ride". At Prince's age (57), you get to a point in life where you need "more" out of a relationship -- it's not just about sex or physical attraction, it's much deeper than that. I think Prince truly loved Manuela and he did not want the divorce. I don't want to think Prince was sad in the last few months of his life. I know he was devastated by the loss of Denise (Vanity). I'm sure he got "sad", just like the rest of us. I think he was happiest when he was being "creative" and creating music, performing and connecting with his fans. Music was his life. He created a lot of beautiful music at PP, and that is where he shall always remain. I always go back to thinking "if only he had that special someone in his life to be by his side." He knows how much we all love him, and that is priceless.

I really like your post and agree with much of it. I too think he loved Manuela a lot, he seemed happy and peaceful when he was with her. He made a lot of sacrifices to live the life of a prolific musician/entertainer whether conciously or unconciously...

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Thanks, Krystal. I appreciate that.

Yea, I agree. Prince seemed very content with Manuela -- I think it was the kind of relationship he longed for. He admired what she was doing for children and her contributions. Some say she broke up his marriage to Mayte and she was a gold-digger, but it sure seems like he loved her, a whole lot!!

LBrent said:

teach49 said:

Or maybe it's that Mayte and Mani know more about their marriages than we do and they feel a connection because of it. Mayte has said that only Mani understands what she went through. Let that one sink in.

Listen, I love P. But his marriages are between him and each of his wives. They have found camaraderie because of their experiences with him and we don't really know why. Maybe that's just enough said...

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[Edited 8/29/16 8:40am]

That and also, MG strikes me as more sweet and needy and naive and trusting, even at her more mature age. MT strikes me as very calculating. It wouldn't be hard for a calculating person to infiltrate and manipulate things to their advantage when dealing with a sweet needy naive trusting person. I know the 2 exes commisersting over their relationships with their own ex, P, seems very modern and evolved, but I suspect MG feels a sisterhood/closeness to P through being friends with MTvbecause MG was ousted from The Purple Kingdom.. . But what is MT getting out of it? Besides the cachet and recognition that will allows be bigger and brighter as "The ex Mrs Prince Nelson" than the current Mrs Benet. I think in their case this is unhealthy, especially for MG. [Edited 8/29/16 11:32am]

It is quite possible that it's unhealthy. It would give me pause because I'm one who wants to move on in life. OTOH in my old age I'm realizing that sometimes reconnecting with people from a painful experience is a way to heal as well. So, who knows in Mayte's case.

I'm not one for "the celebrity wives of anyone" types of shows so theirs is a world that I truly don't understand and they have desires/needs/intentions I simply do not have or want. Mayte seems more trusting, but what screams out to me about descriptions of Mani is that she is an introvert and we can always seem more calculating than we truly are (and we are often far less calculating than the fun, sweet, naive type...just saying).

I've seen some marriage breakups up close and personal and can tell you that sometimes the public face of things is quite different from the behind the scenes. Both of these women were quite young when they met and married P, too, so there can be naivety on both their parts. I don't give P a pass on that just because I'm a fan, but in the same sense, everything was not his fault either. It's rare that the 20 and 40 year old couples are truly matches made in heaven, especially when the woman starts out working for the man. (Not saying it's impossible, just not likely.)

I always feel a great deal of empathy for Mayte because of the profound loss she suffered. I don't know anything about Mani's losses...maybe she has had some profound losses, too, and maybe she hasn't.

We just don't know them so we don't know and that's okay with me. I just wish the court proceedings would end soon so we could focus on his legacy and not his complicated love life. :/

nursev said:

she fucked Tommy Lee and that was a wrap for her and Prince...he didn't back track and you can't blame him nasty

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Yep! Once Prince was done, he was DONE with you!! No turning back. That's just how he rolled.

nursev said:

jayseajay said:

I know. After the man she had been emotionally invested in for eight years and married and lost two children to emotionally abadoned her she tried to see if another man would make it feel better. Unconscionable.

yeah whatever if you're moving on you don't fuck somebody like Tommy Lee with his history. Prince really loved Mayte and who knows they may have gotten back together, but that basically sealed the deal. Tommy Lee was low and she could've done better. But say what you want.

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Mayte wanted to get back together with Prince after his divorce with Manuela, but he wasn't having it. He moved on. Prince was not the type of dude to break-up with someone and go back with them. Once he was done....adios!!

cloveringold85 said:

Krystalkisses said:

I really like your post and agree with much of it. I too think he loved Manuela a lot, he seemed happy and peaceful when he was with her. He made a lot of sacrifices to live the life of a prolific musician/entertainer whether conciously or unconciously...

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Thanks, Krystal. I appreciate that.

Yea, I agree. Prince seemed very content with Manuela -- I think it was the kind of relationship he longed for. He admired what she was doing for children and her contributions. Some say she broke up his marriage to Mayte and she was a gold-digger, but it sure seems like he loved her, a whole lot!!

Yeah I totally know what you mean. As much as I love Mayte, and I do believe she loved Prince, I think Manuela was much better suited for him and offered him the kind of marriage he wanted. They both seemed to be very commited to the JW faith and I think he apprechiated that he could share that with his woman. I'm happy he got to experience a love like that even for a few short years. It is too bad he and Mani could not overcome their differences.

Krystalkisses said:

Krystalkisses said:

What did Mani say, malbena?

Never mind I re-read the original post...

No problem.

cloveringold85 said:

nursev said:

jayseajay said: yeah whatever if you're moving on you don't fuck somebody like Tommy Lee with his history. Prince really loved Mayte and who knows they may have gotten back together, but that basically sealed the deal. Tommy Lee was low and she could've done better. But say what you want.

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Mayte wanted to get back together with Prince after his divorce with Manuela, but he wasn't having it. He moved on. Prince was not the type of dude to break-up with someone and go back with them. Once he was done....adios!!

Yep its true

cloveringold85 said:

nursev said:

jayseajay said: yeah whatever if you're moving on you don't fuck somebody like Tommy Lee with his history. Prince really loved Mayte and who knows they may have gotten back together, but that basically sealed the deal. Tommy Lee was low and she could've done better. But say what you want.

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Mayte wanted to get back together with Prince after his divorce with Manuela, but he wasn't having it. He moved on. Prince was not the type of dude to break-up with someone and go back with them. Once he was done....adios!!

I never heard this... gossip, speculation, or confirmed somewhere?

On the speculation front, I've also wondered whether maybe P had a vasectomy after losing the two babies. He was not one who seemed to recover fully from painful episodes. If this did happen, it could be Mani left in part because he couldn't or didn't want a family. Look at what she did post-P -- and Bria too -- get married and have children.

MG strikes me also as naive and childlike, very sweet and she may be bright in her own way, but her relationship with him seemed to remain as a child-parent as much or more than mate-mate.

allmusicfan123 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Mayte wanted to get back together with Prince after his divorce with Manuela, but he wasn't having it. He moved on. Prince was not the type of dude to break-up with someone and go back with them. Once he was done....adios!!

I never heard this... gossip, speculation, or confirmed somewhere?

On the speculation front, I've also wondered whether maybe P had a vasectomy after losing the two babies. He was not one who seemed to recover fully from painful episodes. If this did happen, it could be Mani left in part because he couldn't or didn't want a family. Look at what she did post-P -- and Bria too -- get married and have children.

MG strikes me also as naive and childlike, very sweet and she may be bright in her own way, but her relationship with him seemed to remain as a child-parent as much or more than mate-mate.

Allmusic: It had been said many times since their break-up. Mayte was really heartbroken when Prince ended their marriage, which is understandable.

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I also always wondered why Prince didn't have a child with Manuela. I have never read that they were trying to start a family. I did read somewhere Manuela stated "He wasn't the one." Prince certainly broke a lot of hearts, but his heart got broken just the same.

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Personally speaking, I don't think I could ever be in a relationship with someone like Prince, because if things didn't work out, it would devastate me. I can see why it really messed-up Mayte. But then again, there were many things leading up to their divorce, I'm sure.

cloveringold85 said:

allmusicfan123 said:

I never heard this... gossip, speculation, or confirmed somewhere?

On the speculation front, I've also wondered whether maybe P had a vasectomy after losing the two babies. He was not one who seemed to recover fully from painful episodes. If this did happen, it could be Mani left in part because he couldn't or didn't want a family. Look at what she did post-P -- and Bria too -- get married and have children.

MG strikes me also as naive and childlike, very sweet and she may be bright in her own way, but her relationship with him seemed to remain as a child-parent as much or more than mate-mate.

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Personally speaking, I don't think I could ever be in a relationship with someone like Prince, because if things didn't work out, it would devastate me.

I know! I mean if you knew him on a personal level, and then things didn't work out could you ever go back liking his music? And yeah as for a relationship with him... ...I don't go for the player type but some girls don't care....he would be great for a hot one night stand though or fling. Or as a friend.

Krystalkisses said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Personally speaking, I don't think I could ever be in a relationship with someone like Prince, because if things didn't work out, it would devastate me.

I know! I mean if you knew him on a personal level, and then things didn't work out could you ever go back liking his music? And yeah as for a relationship with him... ...I don't go for the player type but some girls don't care....he would be great for a hot one night stand though or fling. Or as a friend.

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Krystal: I certainly agree with you on that one! I think I would get more out of a "friendship" with him than a romance. Besides, he's too beautiful for me, LMAO!!

Krystalkisses said:

laurarichardson said:

Vasectomy? Abortion? Trap?.... As much as I respect everyone's opinion thus read them, I think there is too much overanalyzing and speculating without facts. That said, don't stop on my account Who am I to say?

LBrent said:

I thought about this topic today and in line with my thoughts about why MT might want the records to remain sealed, I wondered if they might state that she had an abortion. Maybe she doesn't want her family to know that. I can't shake the feeling that whatever she wants to keep private is more about protecting herself than it is about protecting P's privacy.

Who would NOT have P's baby??? ....lol. Even if I KNEW the relationship wasn't gonna work, BEST BELIEVE I'd suffer the 9 months.

roxy831 said:

LBrent said:

I thought about this topic today and in line with my thoughts about why MT might want the records to remain sealed, I wondered if they might state that she had an abortion. Maybe she doesn't want her family to know that. I can't shake the feeling that whatever she wants to keep private is more about protecting herself than it is about protecting P's privacy.

Who would NOT have P's baby??? ....lol. Even if I KNEW the relationship wasn't gonna work, BEST BELIEVE I'd suffer the 9 months.

so THIS is your value system regarding offspring???

wavesofbliss said:

Roxy831 how did we get here?! -)

Yeh, I said the same thing, but they went into 'abortion' and 'miscarraiges', and it totally made no sense whatsoever. That was my first thought. Sorry, if I through you off...my bad .

cloveringold85 said:

malbena said:

I've read this thread about entirely. I guess fans will never know what happened behind close doors and we can only speculate about all the relationships our beloved Prince had. Whether he was married or not, whether some relationships were known or not, whether they lasted long or not, whether there were ulterior motives from both parties or not, are details feeding analysis of such an admired man. Some of these women are inspiring in a way thus leading fans to advocate for them. Who knows how long that last boat of musicians and women lastly involved would have lasted either.

In the end, what I take away is the versatile Prince who would follow his vision and live in the moment. His life were all in stages from the moment he was born until he died in pursuit of happiness in each and every stage.

I say, ultimately, you all fans are his only true love as you have all lasted longer than some of his women. You also were blessed with him not breaking your heart and allowing you to see only what gifts he wanted you to see and you were always let in. He loved you!!!! while he ended up in bad terms with some women and musicians who had the opportunity to know him no matter what is said in public to look good and remain under the lime light he owned.

My message to you all is: You are great and you were blessed with loving him. Enjoy all the positive he gave you and made your life worth seeing through his eyes. Forget the drama that will never end, the bad people who will fight to be THE ONE (musician, friend, or others).

Peace!

Malbena: That was just beautiful.

Thank you!!!

roxy831 said:

malbena said:

BlackBall said:

If u want 2 feed people BS, smile & flip it-then don't respond to me directly cuz no one who knows anything about the languages (let alone speaks them) that u mentioned would say that BS. So, ya u have now fallen into the catagory with the other mansplainer penis brain on here thru your own words which have ZERO cred due to them being utter BS despite your pathetic attempt at mansplaining. Bye Boy!

I can't let one spread false rumors about Mani being Indian when I personally spoke to her mother who was definitely Egyptian and spoke Arabic with an Egyptian accent. It is against rules of this otherwise wonderful website. But I am now done with this conversation and shall not reply any further.

Since when is Mayte part Egyptian?

I was always under the impression that both of her parents were Puerto Rican?

GhostChick said:

malbena said:

BlackBall said: I can't let one spread false rumors about Mani being Indian when I personally spoke to her mother who was definitely Egyptian and spoke Arabic with an Egyptian accent. It is against rules of this otherwise wonderful website. But I am now done with this conversation and shall not reply any further.

Since when is Mayte part Egyptian?

I was always under the impression that both of her parents were Puerto Rican?

If I do recall, Mayte is part Egyptian as well. P and M pumped that up back in the day when they were married.