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Reply #360 posted 08/28/16 2:42pm

terrig

NinaB said:

terrig said:



and she did it while pretending to be the wifes FRIEND.

I could care less if shes a gold digger - there are plenty of single rich men she could hook up with - Mani is more sinister than just a gold digger - she knowingly smiled in Myate's face on the daily. I'm sorry but thats as dirty a thing as someone can do really.

I dont excuse Prince in this at all - but this is why I don't like Manuela.

Infactwasn't she MG's assistant at one point? Sly. Opportunist.


Evil. Prince let the snake in the garden though and fed it, so there's that.

No matter if you like Mayte or don't I'm pretty sure everyone can agree that absolutely no one deserves to ever be done dirty like that.

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Reply #361 posted 08/28/16 2:47pm

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terrig said:



NinaB said:


terrig said:




and she did it while pretending to be the wifes FRIEND.

I could care less if shes a gold digger - there are plenty of single rich men she could hook up with - Mani is more sinister than just a gold digger - she knowingly smiled in Myate's face on the daily. I'm sorry but thats as dirty a thing as someone can do really.

I dont excuse Prince in this at all - but this is why I don't like Manuela.



Infactwasn't she MG's assistant at one point? Sly. Opportunist.


Evil. Prince let the snake in the garden though and fed it, so there's that.

No matter if you like Mayte or don't I'm pretty sure everyone can agree that absolutely no one deserves to ever be done dirty like that.


Yep, he did. & he was the one took vows 2 MG.
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Reply #362 posted 08/28/16 3:05pm

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MG was no better the way she preg. 4 him 2 marry her. Women who do that or go after married men are both disgraces to all females. Like I said before, they are both the same & if it hadnt been them as individuals it would have been someone else just like them. What I always wondered is, if Mani is ashamed she is Indian? Did she go with the my parents were born in Italy & Egypt to make herself seem exotic & special or was she trying to gain cred in the African American community? Why doesn't she say she is Canadian if that is not the case?

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Reply #363 posted 08/28/16 3:11pm

malbena

BlackBall said:

MG was no better the way she preg. 4 him 2 marry her. Women who do that or go after married men are both disgraces to all females. Like I said before, they are both the same & if it hadnt been them as individuals it would have been someone else just like them. What I always wondered is, if Mani is ashamed she is Indian? Did she go with the my parents were born in Italy & Egypt to make herself seem exotic & special or was she trying to gain cred in the African American community? Why doesn't she say she is Canadian if that is not the case?

Nope. I met her mother once and she is Egyptian. I know because we spoke Arabic.

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Reply #364 posted 08/28/16 3:23pm

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MG was no better the way she preg. 4 him 2 marry her. Women who do that or go after married men are both disgraces to all females. Like I said before, they are both the same & if it hadnt been them as individuals it would have been someone else just like them. What I always wondered is, if Mani is ashamed she is Indian? Did she go with the my parents were born in Italy & Egypt to make herself seem exotic & special or was she trying to gain cred in the African American community? Why doesn't she say she is Canadian if that is not the case?


MG being preg pre wedding is a rumour. No one knows that 4 fact. MG was far 2 inexperienced & young 4 marriage. She did what she was told & that's how P liked it. Not healthy no matter how u cut it. I'm not one 2 fawn over MG & think they had some Mills & Boon's fantasy marriage. MG knew all about the other women 4 a loong time b4 marriage. BUT 2 say they are both the same is a stretch 2 say the least. I never saw MG go after a woman's husband after said woman lost her baby.
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Reply #365 posted 08/28/16 3:24pm

jayseajay

malbena said:

BlackBall said:

MG was no better the way she preg. 4 him 2 marry her. Women who do that or go after married men are both disgraces to all females. Like I said before, they are both the same & if it hadnt been them as individuals it would have been someone else just like them. What I always wondered is, if Mani is ashamed she is Indian? Did she go with the my parents were born in Italy & Egypt to make herself seem exotic & special or was she trying to gain cred in the African American community? Why doesn't she say she is Canadian if that is not the case?

Nope. I met her mother once and she is Egyptian. I know because we spoke Arabic.

The global distrubution of the last name includes Italy, Brazil, Mexico, Canada and the States. That's it.

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Reply #366 posted 08/28/16 3:27pm

BlackBall

They speak Arabic in Pakistan which historically was part of India. Also, the languages a person can speak does not indicate their Ethnic background. I'm out STUPID is here 2 stay. biggrin


[Edited 8/28/16 15:31pm]

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Reply #367 posted 08/28/16 3:34pm

malbena

BlackBall said:

They speak Arabic in Pakistan which historically was part of India. Also, the languages a person can speak does not indicate their Ethnic background. I'm out STUPID is here 2 stay. biggrin


[Edited 8/28/16 15:31pm]

They do not speak Arabic at all. They speak Pakistani which is a form of Indian. They speak some Arabic however due to their being Muslim and thus having to read and discuss the Qu'ran.

That said, when I spoke to Mani's mother. I recognized her accent as being Egyptian.

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Reply #368 posted 08/28/16 3:51pm

BlackBall

Pakistani? biggrin biggrin biggrin

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Reply #369 posted 08/28/16 3:55pm

malbena

BlackBall said:

Pakistani? biggrin biggrin biggrin

Urdu but it is not Arabic.

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Reply #370 posted 08/28/16 4:02pm

BlackBall

Best laugh Ive had on this thread yet dealing with stupid. Yes, I know the language there, but, then I speak Californiai, New Mexicoi & Nevadai! Anywho, like I said language does not indicate Ethnicity.

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Reply #371 posted 08/28/16 4:13pm

malbena

BlackBall said:

Best laugh Ive had on this thread yet dealing with stupid. Yes, I know the language there, but, then I speak Californiai, New Mexicoi & Nevadai! Anywho, like I said language does not indicate Ethnicity.



Pakistani refers to the people of Pakistan as well as what is of or related to Pakistan. It is an official term. I'm sorry we disagree but calling me or Jayseasay stupid when she too disagreed with you is uncalled for.
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Reply #372 posted 08/28/16 4:23pm

BlackBall

If u want 2 feed people BS, smile & flip it-then don't respond to me directly cuz no one who knows anything about the languages (let alone speaks them) that u mentioned would say that BS. So, ya u have now fallen into the catagory with the other mansplainer penis brain on here thru your own words which have ZERO cred due to them being utter BS despite your pathetic attempt at mansplaining. Bye Boy!

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Reply #373 posted 08/28/16 4:31pm

malbena

BlackBall said:

If u want 2 feed people BS, smile & flip it-then don't respond to me directly cuz no one who knows anything about the languages (let alone speaks them) that u mentioned would say that BS. So, ya u have now fallen into the catagory with the other mansplainer penis brain on here thru your own words which have ZERO cred due to them being utter BS despite your pathetic attempt at mansplaining. Bye Boy!



I can't let one spread false rumors about Mani being Indian when I personally spoke to her mother who was definitely Egyptian and spoke Arabic with an Egyptian accent. It is against rules of this otherwise wonderful website. But I am now done with this conversation and shall not reply any further.
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Reply #374 posted 08/28/16 4:49pm

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MG was no better the way she preg. 4 him 2 marry her. Women who do that or go after married men are both disgraces to all females. Like I said before, they are both the same & if it hadnt been them as individuals it would have been someone else just like them. What I always wondered is, if Mani is ashamed she is Indian? Did she go with the my parents were born in Italy & Egypt to make herself seem exotic & special or was she trying to gain cred in the African American community? Why doesn't she say she is Canadian if that is not the case?

Why is anyone talking to BlackBall? trolls

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Reply #375 posted 08/28/16 4:53pm

malbena

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BlackBall said:


MG was no better the way she preg. 4 him 2 marry her. Women who do that or go after married men are both disgraces to all females. Like I said before, they are both the same & if it hadnt been them as individuals it would have been someone else just like them. What I always wondered is, if Mani is ashamed she is Indian? Did she go with the my parents were born in Italy & Egypt to make herself seem exotic & special or was she trying to gain cred in the African American community? Why doesn't she say she is Canadian if that is not the case?



Why is anyone talking to BlackBall? trolls



I learned the hard way, Sunset. Thank you for your support smile
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Reply #376 posted 08/28/16 5:06pm

sunset3121

malbena said:

sunset3121 said:

Why is anyone talking to BlackBall? trolls

I learned the hard way, Sunset. Thank you for your support smile

Yes, I had noticed you were out very quickly wink Lets hope he goes away now.

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Reply #377 posted 08/28/16 5:59pm

Vashtix

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I appreciate the posts from Mani, Mayte, Jill, etc. I really look forward to hearing from Apples. Prince was so private with his personal life. Never gave the media anything to work with in life to try to destroy him. Now they're all making up for it in his death. It's disgusting!

It is true after his death

I have lost respect for many who have waisted no time.

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Reply #378 posted 08/28/16 8:11pm

206Michelle

malbena said:

BlackBall said:

MG was no better the way she preg. 4 him 2 marry her. Women who do that or go after married men are both disgraces to all females. Like I said before, they are both the same & if it hadnt been them as individuals it would have been someone else just like them. What I always wondered is, if Mani is ashamed she is Indian? Did she go with the my parents were born in Italy & Egypt to make herself seem exotic & special or was she trying to gain cred in the African American community? Why doesn't she say she is Canadian if that is not the case?

Nope. I met her mother once and she is Egyptian. I know because we spoke Arabic.

Half Egyptian and half Italian

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Reply #379 posted 08/28/16 8:17pm

206Michelle

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MT doesn't want people to know how much she got in the settlement. Doesn't want to look like a gold digger. I'm sure she is a wonderful person, wife, mother etc etc etc and all the schools she builds are great wonderful etc etc. But when she pursued a married man and didn't stop until she got him...that is a woman to beware of. Just my opinion. I think the worse thing that will come out in the divorce papers is the amount of money she made off of him.

I hear that a lot of people thing she went after a married man and I'm not going to comment on that because I don't know how true/not true it is that she did. But if Mani did go after Prince while he was married to Mayte, then why would she and Mayte be friends now? I mean the two of them put on that tribute concert in LA for Prince. If Mani was a homewrecker, wouldn't it make sense that she and Mayte would be at each other's throats instead of getting along with each other?

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Reply #380 posted 08/28/16 8:21pm

206Michelle

1Sasha said:

I think the fact that Sheila E. positioned Mayte so prominently in the BET tribute speaks volumes on the "she was wronged" issue. She loved him, she lost two children, he kicked her out and verbally abused her with his comments. It would have been very hard for anyone to deal with that. But it seems that now she can forgive him. Let her be.

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Reply #381 posted 08/28/16 8:42pm

206Michelle

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endiadj said:

If Mani was the one that cheated in the marriage and filed for divorce, why did Prince have to pay her millions in the settlement? Why was Tamar called to give a deposition allegedly?

I think Prince was deeply in love with Manuela. He probably felt that she deserved the settlement she received. This is another reason why I think Manuela does not want their divorce settlement disclosed, because Mayte did not get anything -- and obviously that will cause some issues and more drama!! eek

I don't know how deeply he loved Manuela so I won't comment on that. He probably wrote some songs about her. "Call My Name" is probably about her given some of the details in the song. What is clear is that he professed his love for Mayte much more than for any other woman, just based on the songs, music videos, and interviews he did (e.g. Oprah in 1996). Who knows whom he loved more...only he could tell us that, and he's not here. And even if he were here, I doubt he would tell us. He was so evasive in interviews. He'd probably tell us to listen to his music.

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That said, Prince was clear that he did not want the divorce from Mani. His attorney stated this.

From People Magazine: Prince's personal lawyer, Patrick Cousins, confirms that Testolini Nelson is the petitioner. "His wife filed for divorce. This isn’t something that he wanted," says Cousins. "There isn't anything else. He didn't counter sue. He is just trying to get it resolved.” (Source: http://www.people.com/peo...1,00.html)

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As for the reasons why he did not want a divorce, who knows. By this time, he was a very devout JW, and I wonder if his religious beliefs played a role because the JW faith frowns upon divorce.

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Reply #382 posted 08/28/16 8:44pm

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206Michelle said:



CROWNS1 said:


MT doesn't want people to know how much she got in the settlement. Doesn't want to look like a gold digger. I'm sure she is a wonderful person, wife, mother etc etc etc and all the schools she builds are great wonderful etc etc. But when she pursued a married man and didn't stop until she got him...that is a woman to beware of. Just my opinion. I think the worse thing that will come out in the divorce papers is the amount of money she made off of him.



I hear that a lot of people thing she went after a married man and I'm not going to comment on that because I don't know how true/not true it is that she did. But if Mani did go after Prince while he was married to Mayte, then why would she and Mayte be friends now? I mean the two of them put on that tribute concert in LA for Prince. If Mani was a homewrecker, wouldn't it make sense that she and Mayte would be at each other's throats instead of getting along with each other?


Perhaps because Mayte is sweet, naive, unassuming, and gracious. That's my guess. Kudos to her for not taking it to the gutter with Mani tho she had good reason to. Also Mani's settlement is a matter of public record. It's been shared on here before and is available online via the minnesota courts site.
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Reply #383 posted 08/28/16 8:46pm

206Michelle

Kara said:

BlackBall said:

People aren't always jealous when they don't like something/someone. That is the simplified "reasoning" of 5th graders. I can't stand superficial money/fame grubbing dingbats like Mayte, MT or most of the long list of his sex objects because they were ignorant, talentless, oportunists who I would never give the time of day. However, following him meant being exposed to trash and the atrocious stripper dancing of Mayte whose main move consisted of thrusting her ass in his face. Go Mayte with your "female empowerment"! The fact that ppl continue to feel sorry for her shows how well her victim routine works. The only victim these days is her poor daughter whom she has used to try and fill the empty void in her life. Clearly Mayte manipulated P. into marriage thru "accidently" getting pregnant at the very time he was talking of marrying Nona Gaye. Is it any wonder he had hostility towards her that may have come out after the fetus died? No sweet "innocent" or loving person manipulates someone into marriage. He replaced M. with a slightly more intelligent (if u count calculating as intelligence) version with MT but she was no better or worse, just more of the same talentless starfuckers he attracted due to his goodheart and insecurities. Frankly, Bria is the ONLY one who has shown any class and was the one (who even at the time he was with her) seemed a bit different but not enough. Poor P. all this from those who claim to love him sooo much but were just parasites who now continue to feed off his fame.

I don't know if Amir (not "the fetus") was a full-term baby or not, but even if he was, Mayte would have only been a few weeks pregnant when she and Prince got married, and likely didn't know yet. So your assertion that Mayte trapped Prince is nonsense.

Ahmir was born a month premature, in late October, which means that he could have been conceived right after they were married. (Source: http://www.huffingtonpost...0180.html)

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Reply #384 posted 08/29/16 4:33am

jayseajay

206Michelle said:

Kara said:

BlackBall said: I don't know if Amir (not "the fetus") was a full-term baby or not, but even if he was, Mayte would have only been a few weeks pregnant when she and Prince got married, and likely didn't know yet. So your assertion that Mayte trapped Prince is nonsense.

Ahmir was born a month premature, in late October, which means that he could have been conceived right after they were married. (Source: http://www.huffingtonpost...0180.html)

Right, or as the poster above says, it could have been a few weeks before, but nowhere near more. Also, maybe I missed something in class one day, but I thought for a woman to get pregnant a man needed to have unprotected sex with her?

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Reply #385 posted 08/29/16 4:43am

1Sasha

Did you see the Lenox china - the wedding china - with the symbol and the "M?" No way it was a shotgun wedding - it took some time for Lenox to produce that china, and in the quantity ordered.

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Reply #386 posted 08/29/16 6:19am

LBrent

206Michelle said:



Kara said:


BlackBall said:

People aren't always jealous when they don't like something/someone. That is the simplified "reasoning" of 5th graders. I can't stand superficial money/fame grubbing dingbats like Mayte, MT or most of the long list of his sex objects because they were ignorant, talentless, oportunists who I would never give the time of day. However, following him meant being exposed to trash and the atrocious stripper dancing of Mayte whose main move consisted of thrusting her ass in his face. Go Mayte with your "female empowerment"! The fact that ppl continue to feel sorry for her shows how well her victim routine works. The only victim these days is her poor daughter whom she has used to try and fill the empty void in her life. Clearly Mayte manipulated P. into marriage thru "accidently" getting pregnant at the very time he was talking of marrying Nona Gaye. Is it any wonder he had hostility towards her that may have come out after the fetus died? No sweet "innocent" or loving person manipulates someone into marriage. He replaced M. with a slightly more intelligent (if u count calculating as intelligence) version with MT but she was no better or worse, just more of the same talentless starfuckers he attracted due to his goodheart and insecurities. Frankly, Bria is the ONLY one who has shown any class and was the one (who even at the time he was with her) seemed a bit different but not enough. Poor P. all this from those who claim to love him sooo much but were just parasites who now continue to feed off his fame.



I don't know if Amir (not "the fetus") was a full-term baby or not, but even if he was, Mayte would have only been a few weeks pregnant when she and Prince got married, and likely didn't know yet. So your assertion that Mayte trapped Prince is nonsense.

Ahmir was born a month premature, in late October, which means that he could have been conceived right after they were married. (Source: http://www.huffingtonpost...0180.html)



I hadn't heard this rumour, but women have been known to stop taking their birth control pills, SAY they're pregnant to speed up a marriage then afterwards the guy figures she's already pregnant and most guy's prefer sex without a condom, so they have unprotected "honeymoon sex" which really gets her pregnant.

Women have also been known to claim a baby is " premature" when it's really not, but she says the "dates got mixed up".

Happens all the time. Except in P & MG's case the baby had medical issues that would further distract from the truth of when the baby was actually conceived.

I like MG and would hate to think she might've lied, but while they were dealing with Ahmir's medical issues I doubt P was focused on whether the baby was really premature or not.

If MG really did this, it would've worked. But no one anticipated that the baby would have medical issues.

Tragic.


Which leads me to suspect that by the time P married MT, he was on to the whole "accidental pregnancy" trick and took steps to prevent MT from getting pregnant due to fear of another tragic birth experience.

Maybe he insisted on using condoms, not trusting MT to take birth control pills.
Or maybe he went further and had a vasectomy. If MT wanted children and he refused to give her any, that would be a significant impact on the relationship, no?

That could be a reason MT sought to divorce him and might be the embarrassing secret MT wants to keep hidden in the sealed divorce documents AND that would disprove any claimants who say they're heirs.

Wasn't that the original reason that the judge considered the documents? Because information in the documents might shed light on the possibility of heirs?

Heck, he might've had a vasectomy after MG miscarried the second baby so he entered the marriage to MT already unable to father any children with her. Maybe he neglected to tell MT that until after they were married.

Just a thought.
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Reply #387 posted 08/29/16 7:49am

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LBrent said:

206Michelle said:

Ahmir was born a month premature, in late October, which means that he could have been conceived right after they were married. (Source: http://www.huffingtonpost...0180.html)

I hadn't heard this rumour, but women have been known to stop taking their birth control pills, SAY they're pregnant to speed up a marriage then afterwards the guy figures she's already pregnant and most guy's prefer sex without a condom, so they have unprotected "honeymoon sex" which really gets her pregnant. Women have also been known to claim a baby is " premature" when it's really not, but she says the "dates got mixed up". Happens all the time. Except in P & MG's case the baby had medical issues that would further distract from the truth of when the baby was actually conceived. I like MG and would hate to think she might've lied, but while they were dealing with Ahmir's medical issues I doubt P was focused on whether the baby was really premature or not. If MG really did this, it would've worked. But no one anticipated that the baby would have medical issues. Tragic. Which leads me to suspect that by the time P married MT, he was on to the whole "accidental pregnancy" trick and took steps to prevent MT from getting pregnant due to fear of another tragic birth experience. Maybe he insisted on using condoms, not trusting MT to take birth control pills. Or maybe he went further and had a vasectomy. If MT wanted children and he refused to give her any, that would be a significant impact on the relationship, no? That could be a reason MT sought to divorce him and might be the embarrassing secret MT wants to keep hidden in the sealed divorce documents AND that would disprove any claimants who say they're heirs. Wasn't that the original reason that the judge considered the documents? Because information in the documents might shed light on the possibility of heirs? Heck, he might've had a vasectomy after MG miscarried the second baby so he entered the marriage to MT already unable to father any children with her. Maybe he neglected to tell MT that until after they were married. Just a thought. [Edited 8/29/16 6:39am]

But the available evidence (or rather lack of evidence) would suggest he was always pretty careful. It's not like he just decided to start being careful with MT because he had suddenly worked out getting women pregnant by accident was a bad idea only after his marriage to Mayte. He told us his father told him not to get women pregnant by accident, and it seems like he took that advice pretty seriously.

[Edited 8/29/16 7:50am]

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Reply #388 posted 08/29/16 8:34am

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sonshine said:

206Michelle said:

I hear that a lot of people thing she went after a married man and I'm not going to comment on that because I don't know how true/not true it is that she did. But if Mani did go after Prince while he was married to Mayte, then why would she and Mayte be friends now? I mean the two of them put on that tribute concert in LA for Prince. If Mani was a homewrecker, wouldn't it make sense that she and Mayte would be at each other's throats instead of getting along with each other?

Perhaps because Mayte is sweet, naive, unassuming, and gracious. That's my guess. Kudos to her for not taking it to the gutter with Mani tho she had good reason to. Also Mani's settlement is a matter of public record. It's been shared on here before and is available online via the minnesota courts site.

Or maybe it's that Mayte and Mani know more about their marriages than we do and they feel a connection because of it. Mayte has said that only Mani understands what she went through. Let that one sink in.

Listen, I love P. But his marriages are between him and each of his wives. They have found camaraderie because of their experiences with him and we don't really know why. Maybe that's just enough said...

[Edited 8/29/16 8:35am]

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Reply #389 posted 08/29/16 11:11am

LBrent

jayseajay said:



LBrent said:


206Michelle said:


Ahmir was born a month premature, in late October, which means that he could have been conceived right after they were married. (Source: http://www.huffingtonpost...0180.html)



I hadn't heard this rumour, but women have been known to stop taking their birth control pills, SAY they're pregnant to speed up a marriage then afterwards the guy figures she's already pregnant and most guy's prefer sex without a condom, so they have unprotected "honeymoon sex" which really gets her pregnant. Women have also been known to claim a baby is " premature" when it's really not, but she says the "dates got mixed up". Happens all the time. Except in P & MG's case the baby had medical issues that would further distract from the truth of when the baby was actually conceived. I like MG and would hate to think she might've lied, but while they were dealing with Ahmir's medical issues I doubt P was focused on whether the baby was really premature or not. If MG really did this, it would've worked. But no one anticipated that the baby would have medical issues. Tragic. Which leads me to suspect that by the time P married MT, he was on to the whole "accidental pregnancy" trick and took steps to prevent MT from getting pregnant due to fear of another tragic birth experience. Maybe he insisted on using condoms, not trusting MT to take birth control pills. Or maybe he went further and had a vasectomy. If MT wanted children and he refused to give her any, that would be a significant impact on the relationship, no? That could be a reason MT sought to divorce him and might be the embarrassing secret MT wants to keep hidden in the sealed divorce documents AND that would disprove any claimants who say they're heirs. Wasn't that the original reason that the judge considered the documents? Because information in the documents might shed light on the possibility of heirs? Heck, he might've had a vasectomy after MG miscarried the second baby so he entered the marriage to MT already unable to father any children with her. Maybe he neglected to tell MT that until after they were married. Just a thought. [Edited 8/29/16 6:39am]

But the available evidence (or rather lack of evidence) would suggest he was always pretty careful. It's not like he just decided to start being careful with MT because he had suddenly worked out getting women pregnant by accident was a bad idea only after his marriage to Mayte. He told us his father told him not to get women pregnant by accident, and it seems like he took that advice pretty seriously.

[Edited 8/29/16 7:50am]



There's "being careful" with casual sexual partners, using condoms to prevent accidental pregnancy AND accidental diseases acquisition and transmission, which responsible sexual active people should always do and it would appear P did.

Then there's the "being careful" that becomes more relaxed with a committed relationship. That often becomes "she's safe from disease, and she's on birth control pills so I'm gonna stop using condoms now".

Then there's "being safe" by not trusting the woman's birth control because the last 2 pregnancies ended tragically and I don't want to ever put another woman through that so I'm getting a vasectomy".




See?
[Edited 8/29/16 11:34am]
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