BlackBall said:

With the disgusting things you say it is very difficult to believe you are a biological female. Truely pathetic. You are clearly delusional if you think for one moment Prince didn't capitalize off sex or wasn't misogynistic. Considering the comments I made about Race went right over your head it is sadly obvious you have the depth of a pizza pan. Again, good luck to you.

jayseajay said:

Also, don't try and pull that "I am man therefore I have the cock of logic" bullshit on us (stupid women and their crazy vagina brains!). Believe me, I have had way more practice at this than you. There is no stunt you can pull I haven't seen a million times before and can see right through. In this entire equation, I have interest in only one cock, and it belongs to a man that never tried to pretend it gave him the power of reason over women. Leave Mayte the fuck alone. Seriously.

So just to clarify, is your argument that I'm an idiot or that I don't have a vagina?

jayseajay said:

nursev said:

jayseajay said:

WORD! Let's not forget Pamela Anderson charged TL with spousal abuse for physically assaulting her while she was holding her baby...Nuff said!

nursev said:

jayseajay said:

Yes, no doubt Prince loved Mayte, and then he abandoned her, after she lost lost two children. And the issue is that the person she fucked when trying to move forward was 'nasty,' when if she had fucked someone up to Prince's standards of elegance it might have been fine? Should we consider what might have been done to Mayte's self respect by the time she decided to hook up with Tommy Lee? No, let's not.

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Tommy Lee was muthafucking nasty! All the people he slept with...Please!

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nursev said:

jayseajay said:

Yes, no doubt Prince loved Mayte, and then he abandoned her, after she lost lost two children. And the issue is that the person she fucked when trying to move forward was 'nasty,' when if she had fucked someone up to Prince's standards of elegance it might have been fine? Should we consider what might have been done to Mayte's self respect by the time she decided to hook up with Tommy Lee? No, let's not.

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Tommy Lee was muthafucking nasty! All the people he slept with...Please!

And? How does this have any bearing on anything? P was a possessive, this is well established. If you want to place the blame on Mayte for ending the relationship, you really think he cared about who it was? You think someone less 'nasty' would have been okay by him? I simply don't see how this is relevent, unless we are trying to suggest Mayte is a bad person less deserving of sympathy because she fucked someone 'nasty.' Mayte was dealt a shitty hand, and she was doing the best she could, and blaming the whole mess on her b/c the person she tried to move on with was 'nasty' is just deflection.

Again, I agree with u totally Nursev but like I said before u can't argue with stupid or crazy, or a penisbrain in this case on a female? or more likely male

nursev said:

Maytes mother has a lot to do with her circumstances and unfortunately she got caught up in a grown mans world.

purplerabbithole said:

I was looking up Prince's family and friends' facebook pages. So far, most of them have been quiet except for Manuela..

Here is what she said..

I don't even know what to say right now. I want to scream and cry and just pretend this is all a twisted dream. I just want it to stop and for him to be left in peace. Instead, the focus continues to be to tear him down and it feels like he is dying all over again and pieces of my heart are dying too. I feel sick and sad, but also angry at enablers and leeches and vultures. Devastated.

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Interesting choice of words...Enablers and leeches and vultures. I've heard those words used before with another star who passed suddenly by their ex. May not have been the exact words but similar. Lisa Marie Presley said that when she discussed Michael Jackson's inner circle when she was with him. She tried to help him but he would just push her away. If you bared down on him he just made sure you were not around him anymore. Her dad did the same thing. When Elvis was cornered and told I will not let you do this to yourself anymore by 2 of his bodyguards that had worked with him since the beginning and been friends with him in high school, they were called by someone and told they were fired and the guard would no longer let them in at the gate and he did not accept their phone calls. Not saying that is what happened or would have happened with Prince but if someone doesn't want your help they can make you not a part of their life anymore. I just think about what his family said about they did try to help him. I forget the guys name who said that and said there were records to show they tried. They may have. It's happened before.

I also know from first hand experience, if someone does not want your help they will avoid you and push you away, distance themselves from you.

nursev said:

nursev said:

Tommy Lee was muthafucking nasty! All the people he slept with...Please!

Any self respecting woman would've passed him by

And maybe if you get hooked up with a rockstar when you're 16 and end up marrying him and losing two babies and then he dumps you your self-respect is pretty much in the shitter. And maybe we could have a little compassion for that.

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BlackBall said:

BlackBall said:

Exactly. Thank you!

malbena said:

BlackBall said:

People aren't always jealous when they don't like something/someone. That is the simplified "reasoning" of 5th graders. I can't stand superficial money/fame grubbing dingbats like Mayte, MT or most of the long list of his sex objects because they were ignorant, talentless, oportunists who I would never give the time of day. However, following him meant being exposed to trash and the atrocious stripper dancing of Mayte whose main move consisted of thrusting her ass in his face. Go Mayte with your "female empowerment"! The fact that ppl continue to feel sorry for her shows how well her victim routine works. The only victim these days is her poor daughter whom she has used to try and fill the empty void in her life. Clearly Mayte manipulated P. into marriage thru "accidently" getting pregnant at the very time he was talking of marrying Nona Gaye. Is it any wonder he had hostility towards her that may have come out after the fetus died? No sweet "innocent" or loving person manipulates someone into marriage. He replaced M. with a slightly more intelligent (if u count calculating as intelligence) version with MT but she was no better or worse, just more of the same talentless starfuckers he attracted due to his goodheart and insecurities. Frankly, Bria is the ONLY one who has shown any class and was the one (who even at the time he was with her) seemed a bit different but not enough. Poor P. all this from those who claim to love him sooo much but were just parasites who now continue to feed off his fame.

With due respect, jealousy is not just "simplified reasoning of 5th graders". It exists in all ages. It is a proven and normal response to insecurity or lack of compassion and happens daily.

That said, I can completely understand the "hate" towards his ex-wives are not all jealousy or is not felt that way by everyone. I can also understand how there is responsibilities from both sides and your explanation is valid to me as well as seen that way by many others

nursev said:

jayseajay said:

Yes, no doubt Prince loved Mayte, and then he abandoned her, after she lost lost two children. And the issue is that the person she fucked when trying to move forward was 'nasty,' when if she had fucked someone up to Prince's standards of elegance it might have been fine? Should we consider what might have been done to Mayte's self respect by the time she decided to hook up with Tommy Lee? No, let's not.

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Tommy Lee was muthafucking nasty! All the people he slept with...Please!

While Prince was soooooo innocent. Let's not be delusional.

Mayte had the right to move on to whomever she could find happiness with after what she'd been through. It didn't matter if it was TL or someone else. What difference did it make? She was looking to have fun and let loose and he was that guy. Good for her. Such judgement on these boards.

How did this thread go from MT to Mayte?

The problem with these threads sometimes is that people want to either characterize someone as a victim or a victimizer. In most cases on this board...its.: Prince=victimizer, Mayte=victim. Until someone gets tired of it and then wants to reverse that notion.

But the reality is probably somewhere in the gray area. Prince had his flaws but he couldnt have been all bad. Mayte seemed sweet but she couldn't have been all good. they are human beings. Ying/yang type of stuff. Nothing Mayte has done after P has ever offended me in any way, shape or form. I am more annoyed by the simplistic notions of the type of person prince was (that come from this very board.)

endiadj said:

Mayte had the right to move on to whomever she could find happiness with after what she'd been through. It didn't matter if it was TL or someone else. What difference did it make? She was looking to have fun and let loose and he was that guy. Good for her. Such judgement on these boards.

nursev said:

Tommy Lee was muthafucking nasty! All the people he slept with...Please!

Right. And Prince was a fucking virgin right? Or is he your pimp hero? I'm confused.

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It always does.

malbena said:

How did this thread go from MT to Mayte?

I have no idea how many women either one of these men screwed because they are rock stars. Its part illusion part reality. People have said that Prince's sexual proclivities have been exaggerated. This also could be the case for Tommy Lee. Who knows?

jayseajay said:

Right. And Prince was a fucking virgin right? Or is he your pimp hero? I'm confused.

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malbena said:

How did this thread go from MT to Mayte?

That's what I'm saying too. I don't know what happen during Prince's marriages to put any judgement on him or his ex wifes. Marriage and relationships are not easy. There is two sides of a story.

purplerabbithole said:

luvsexy4all said:

PrplGem said:

SpookyNopetopus said: They're all rockstars. I don't understand the logic of others, sometimes.

tommy lee and prince r the "same"??? u mean they both have penis' ??

I mean they both appeared to have slept with a LOT of women, yet you want to attack Mayte for going with Tommy Lee after she bascically got dumped in Spain somewhere while Prince played.Yeah, no, stop with your nonsense, I ain't buying that bullshit.

purplerabbithole said:

I have no idea how many women either one of these men screwed because they are rock stars. Its part illusion part reality. People have said that Prince's sexual proclivities have been exaggerated. This also could be the case for Tommy Lee. Who knows?

jayseajay said:

Right. And Prince was a fucking virgin right? Or is he your pimp hero? I'm confused.

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I don't care how many women Prince fucked. I'm just objecting to the characterization of Tommy Lee as 'nasty,' apparently on the basis of how many women he fucked when we are talking about an ex of Princes, who also fucked a load of women. Mayte was dumped by a legendarily promiscious man, and went and fucked another promiscious man. And why is this a thing, and especially why is this a thing which means we are supposed to think less of Mayte? By the reasoning being used here, no self-respecting women would hook up with Prince either, because he's 'nasty.' And obviously none of us think that. So it all makes basically no sense at all.

SpookyNopetopus said:

luvsexy4all said:

tommy lee and prince r the "same"??? u mean they both have penis' ??

I mean they both appeared to have slept with a LOT of women, yet you want to attack Mayte for going with Tommy Lee after she bascically got dumped in Spain somewhere while Prince played.Yeah, no, stop with your nonsense, I ain't buying that bullshit.

Tommy Lee is nasty and Prince isn't because reasons.

Amen, Someone called Prince a misogynistic on this thread. A woman-hater really? My grandfather was a sexist prick (greatest generation and all) but even I don't think he hated women. That term is thrown around too often whenever a man womanizes or incorrect notions about woman. Prince had his sexist controlling moments. But a woman hater is not what I would call him at all. He hired way too many normal-looking female musicians to call him that.

Purplestar88 said:

malbena said:

How did this thread go from MT to Mayte?

That's what I'm saying too. I don't know what happen during Prince's marriages to put any judgement on him or his ex wifes. Marriage and relationships are not easy. There is two sides of a story.

jayseajay said:

SpookyNopetopus said:

I mean they both appeared to have slept with a LOT of women, yet you want to attack Mayte for going with Tommy Lee after she bascically got dumped in Spain somewhere while Prince played.Yeah, no, stop with your nonsense, I ain't buying that bullshit.

Tommy Lee is nasty and Prince isn't because reasons.

Like many women here would drop them drawers for Prince becausse they think it would mean something special for Prince? Nah, I'm good on that. And I'm done with these petty bitches up in here. Tracking women they swear they hate, but allll up in their daily lives like "Whatchu doin?" BORED.

purplerabbithole said:

Amen, Someone called Prince a misogynistic on this thread. A woman-hater really? My grandfather was a sexist prick (greatest generation and all) but even I don't think he hated women. That term is thrown around too often whenever a man womanizes or incorrect notions about woman. Prince had his sexist controlling moments. But a woman hater is not what I would call him at all. He hired way too many normal-looking female musicians to call him that.

Purplestar88 said:

That's what I'm saying too. I don't know what happen during Prince's marriages to put any judgement on him or his ex wifes. Marriage and relationships are not easy. There is two sides of a story.

Nobody called Prince a misogynist. I called someone else a misogynist (because they posted a comment in which they described Prince's girlfiriends as variously sex objects, attention-whores, trivial, calculating, superficial, talentless, gold-diggers and sluts.) But Prince, no. Prince had flaws for sure, but woman-hating was not one of them.

I don't disagree. But Mayte is not or nor should she be expected to be all innocent. I don't know if she was as innocent around Prince as people make her out to be (she was probably faithful but when they started drifting apart she might have been with other men..nothing wrong with that) . I am not judging her if she was as sexual and brazen as sometimes Prince was. Her dancing on Pussy Control depicted that of a woman completely okay with her sexuality. It might have been just an illusion/performance..but it does take a certain braveness to dance like that.

I am saying rumors about Prince during his time with her are just that--rumors. We don't have his side and Mayte didn't say a lot.

jayseajay said:

purplerabbithole said:

I have no idea how many women either one of these men screwed because they are rock stars. Its part illusion part reality. People have said that Prince's sexual proclivities have been exaggerated. This also could be the case for Tommy Lee. Who knows?

I don't care how many women Prince fucked. I'm just objecting to the characterization of Tommy Lee as 'nasty,' apparently on the basis of how many women he fucked when we are talking about an ex of Princes, who also fucked a load of women. Mayte was dumped by a legendarily promiscious man, and went and fucked another promiscious man. And why is this a thing, and especially why is this a thing which means we are supposed to think less of Mayte? By the reasoning being used here, no self-respecting women would hook up with Prince either, because he's 'nasty.' And obviously none of us think that. So it all makes basically no sense at all.