I'm watching the rerun of episode #2 right now. Did anybody else laugh when they showed Prince and Mayte's wedding china? LOL! For some reason, it made me laugh. The matchmaker also criticized Mayte for having purple liquid soap. Really? You're going to fault a woman for the color of the soap she uses? Is a guy really going to pay attention to that? Most men that I know wouldn't even notice it, truth be told.

psychodelicide said:

I'm watching the rerun of episode #2 right now. Did anybody else laugh when they showed Prince and Mayte's wedding china? LOL! For some reason, it made me laugh. The matchmaker also criticized Mayte for having purple liquid soap. Really? You're going to fault a woman for the color of the soap she uses? Is a guy really going to pay attention to that? Most men that I know wouldn't even notice it, truth be told.

and what if purple is Mayte's favorite color?

It is my favorite color. My DH thinks it is because I'm a Prince fan... but no... I think it may be the other way around... I started noticing Prince because he always wore my favorite color... purple

If I have a choice, I always choose purple. Purple car, purple iphone case, purple kindle fire, purple ear buds, purple coach bag.

I guess if I was a Prince ex, everybody would just have to think I was stuck on him because I won't give up the purple!!

I suppose some of these exes better make the best of their 3 seconds of fame, while using their exes' names to gain popularity and develop a fan base, for whatever their career goals are right now, because 2 years from now that show will be "Hollywood Who?" like some 1970 sitcom, collecting dust, sitting in some film library warehouse in the valley of the forgotten.

I wonder if these ex-wives realize they're kind of doing free advertising and promotion for their ex-husbands everytime their exes' names comes out of their mouths? In most of their interviews, the interviewers seem to be much more interested in hearing about their ex-husbands, rather than the ex-wives on that show.

Talk about free advertisement and promotion...I mean "Why pay for the cow, when you could get the milk for free?"

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When I heard that Prince and Mayte's marriage was annulled, I didn't know whether to believe that or not. I guess we know the truth now.

This show is clearly for her to show people how she's living her life after Prince, and I see in every interview she tries really hard to not spill any secrets of their relationship. She basically tells us what we already know and there is no harm in that. She's not the "tell-all" kind of ex-wife. And for those who think she's using the title of Prince's ex wife to draw a bigger fan base...THAT'S WHO SHE IS and she was a part of that relationship, so she has every right to play this role and not be ashamed of it.

I can't help but feel bad about her struggling to have a family. I hated that "matchmaker" soo much! It's like she was trying to take away all Mayte had. Her mom and her pets are important to her. If a man likes her a lot he will be willing to deal with all of that, and he should.

babyjubilation said:

When I heard that Prince and Mayte's marriage was annulled, I didn't know whether to believe that or not. I guess we know the truth now.

This show is clearly for her to show people how she's living her life after Prince, and I see in every interview she tries really hard to not spill any secrets of their relationship. She basically tells us what we already know and there is no harm in that. She's not the "tell-all" kind of ex-wife. And for those who think she's using the title of Prince's ex wife to draw a bigger fan base...THAT'S WHO SHE IS and she was a part of that relationship, so she has every right to play this role and not be ashamed of it.

I can't help but feel bad about her struggling to have a family. I hated that "matchmaker" soo much! It's like she was trying to take away all Mayte had. Her mom and her pets are important to her. If a man likes her a lot he will be willing to deal with all of that, and he should.

If these women can use this opportunity to gain some fans based on their career goals, then there's nothing wrong with that, but hopefully some of the interviewers they run across, won't get them to slip and tell things about their exes that should remain private between them and their exes, and not cause any problems with any of their exes. We've only seen 2 episodes, so maybe the next few will focus more on their present career and not so much on their exes, to the point they miss their opportunity to show their viewers and new fans, what they are really all about.

I wouldn't take everything here said by many of us too seriously, some are just joking and having fun with no real malice intended. Many of these women already stated they're not worried about any negative press on blogs, the media or elsewhere, regarding the show, and expect that would happen. Their focus apparently in the show is suppose to be about them,and since they only showed 2 episodes, maybe the future episodes will give their viewers an inside look at their present career goals.

babyjubilation said:

When I heard that Prince and Mayte's marriage was annulled, I didn't know whether to believe that or not. I guess we know the truth now.

This show is clearly for her to show people how she's living her life after Prince, and I see in every interview she tries really hard to not spill any secrets of their relationship. She basically tells us what we already know and there is no harm in that. She's not the "tell-all" kind of ex-wife. And for those who think she's using the title of Prince's ex wife to draw a bigger fan base...THAT'S WHO SHE IS and she was a part of that relationship, so she has every right to play this role and not be ashamed of it.

I can't help but feel bad about her struggling to have a family. I hated that "matchmaker" soo much! It's like she was trying to take away all Mayte had. Her mom and her pets are important to her. If a man likes her a lot he will be willing to deal with all of that, and he should.

1. Yeah, that whole annulment thing was so dubious - how do you annul a marriage after 3 yrs of marriage, having a baby together and everything? I haven't looked at family law in 15 yrs, but as I remember there are very few legal reasons for allowing an annulment, which wouldn't apply here.

Why do people say the marriage was annulled? Did Prince say that? I vaguely remember something like that. I've even seen this in articles too - some articles say the marriage was annulled, and then also say they divorced. ?? It's not possible to do both.

2. The matchmaker - she was right about the china, and probably about the animals too, but the purple counter-top spray?? Many soaps and sprays are purple, bc of the popularity of lavender in those things.

A friend of mine is into "Millionaire Matchmaker" and lent me a book by her - read/skimmed it during a dentist appt wait. Never saw the show, but she seems like a sensible no-nonsense "relationship expert," and one who's experienced setting up and coaching high profile, high income, high status (and super picky!) people. Mayte ought to get the "millionaire matchmaker."

Yes I also thought Mani was being insensitive and trying to one up her by saying "catch up". She knows what Mayte and Prince went through with the birth and untimely passing of the baby. I wonder if the second birth was by Prince...maybe that was the last straw in their marriage.

Watching them talk just made me think, "What is being married to Prince like?" Mani said this is the happiest she's ever been and she seems to be completely over the marriage. Mayte I think still carries a torch despite wanting to move on with her life. I can't imagine it would be that horrible to be married to him...maybe it just relates to his work ethic and perfectionism. I guess we'll never know but I can't help but speculate.

lauralevesque said:

prodigalfan said:

damn!

I didn't really "get it" until this post right here.

So it wasn't enough that Mani stole Mayte's man... now she gotta come on Mayte's DAMN SHOW AND BASICALLY RUB MAYTE'S NOSE IN THIS "I win again bitch!""

I'm not sure if Mani was so much after Prince as much as she was after Mayte's man.

That's what I've always suspected! That she more wanted to "one-up" Mayte than even be with Prince. Like a single white female! Like, "I want to BE YOU, bitch!" That's just my opinion. Now bitch is tallking down to Mayte. Um.Um.Um.....

MAYTE WILL find a deserving man soon and on time! As for Mani discussing her new daughter and marriage...whatever...she DID NOT hit the jackpot with Eric Benet. He is second rate and something thrown out with the trash just like she was. Ms. Garcia don't want none of that.

Mayte in my opinion she was Prince's true wife/soul mate. I'm sure in time if it hasn't happened already, they will become friends and bond again.

I went into the gutter and watched the show (not a big fan of reality tv), just because I was channel surfing and it happened to be on. I was a tiny bit surprised to see Manuela on the show but again, not so much. Imo, she seems to like the lime light and not only that, she's also imo a very smart, yet calculating individual.

Personally, there are aspects that I like and dislike about both Manuela and Mayte. I don't know if it was staged or not, but Mayte still having her old wedding china prominently displayed in her house was ridiculous.

Manuela... well, I do like her but imo, she does have her faults (as we all do). She donates her time and efforts to many humanitarian causes which I admire, however, I have to question her motives. Sometimes I feel that she isn't sincere and does it to boost her image/ego. Or perhaps, she really is a good person and either Mayte see's that or is extremely naive and is buying into her BS.

I didn't like that Manuela seemed to put Mayte in such an akward situation going on about her baby when she knows what Mayte has been through. I get that all parents are proud of their children, but have some tact.

I don't think that any of us truly know what went down between the three, but I think that since Mayte and Prince never sat down and discussed the decline of their relationship (Mayte's words), Manuela could be making herself out to be a saint and telling Mayte anything, which is why Mayte is so willing to forgive...if of course, the rumors of Manuela "stealing" Prince are true.

I'll admit that it really isn't our business. Yet, since they keep putting bit's of info out there anyway, I really wish they'd come clean about what actually happened and how they became friends in the end in spite of it all, so that we can stop all of this speculation.

Maybe then, I could truly be happy for them becoming friends. But as it is (because I don't know) it is currently my opinon, that Manuela is manipulating Mayte and not truly her friend at all, seeing her merely as a competitor.

If nothing else, it's very interesting to say the least, but I really do wish them the best.

My other thoughts about the show - Jose Conseco's wife is crazy funny, R Kelly's wife is in dire need of counseling and Will Smith's ex wife...well, she is all over the place. Praying, drinking, judging...she seems confused. My personal favorites are Mayte and Nicole Murphy. Nicole seems so poised and not so hung up on her ex like the others (excluding Mayte).

Not sure if I'll watch it again. Well, maybe I will. I think there is an episode coming up where Mayte and R Kelly's ex wife are dancing together in a studio. I'm such a fan of music and dancers, I'd like to see that.

prodigalfan said:

psychodelicide said:

I'm watching the rerun of episode #2 right now. Did anybody else laugh when they showed Prince and Mayte's wedding china? LOL! For some reason, it made me laugh. The matchmaker also criticized Mayte for having purple liquid soap. Really? You're going to fault a woman for the color of the soap she uses? Is a guy really going to pay attention to that? Most men that I know wouldn't even notice it, truth be told.

and what if purple is Mayte's favorite color?

It is my favorite color. My DH thinks it is because I'm a Prince fan... but no... I think it may be the other way around... I started noticing Prince because he always wore my favorite color... purple

If I have a choice, I always choose purple. Purple car, purple iphone case, purple kindle fire, purple ear buds, purple coach bag.

I guess if I was a Prince ex, everybody would just have to think I was stuck on him because I won't give up the purple!!

Maybe purple is indeed Mayte's favorite color. I know it is my favorite color too. Heck, I liked the color purple even before I became a Prince fan. When it was time for me to get a new cell phone, I purposely picked one that was purple. Just not sure why the "matchmaker" was coming down on Mayte for having that colored liquid soap in her kitchen. To me, it's not that big of a deal, honestly.

Wow, Prince seeing his ex-wives hanging out on a TV show must have been like a kick to the throat, ha ha.

I haven't seen the whole first episode, and haven't seen any of the 2nd episode. I haven't tivo the show yet. Just been watching it online.

Now, I feel depressed about the show and don't really want to see it (but I will... such a sucker for gossip ya known )

The thing that is depressing me is that Mayte seems so hung up on him. And dang... he's been through another marriage, and divorce and COUNTLESS hookups.

And she still has china with his symbol ON DISPLAY in her home!

Some women can roll with the best of them. Like Mani. I tell you that girl gave as good as she got. And she moved on. I bet Prince gave her a big heartbreak.... but I bet he felt the sting from her as well.

Mayte, she seems so damn trusting, naive, fragile, trusting. It is infuriating. She should have NOT got involved with Prince. Her mother did her a great disservice.

For more than 1/2 of her life she has either been involved with this man or living with the ghost of their relationship.

She should have not gotten involved with a man that is so cavalier about matters of the heart. She is not wired that way to shake it off. I am beginning to believe that Mayte really really believed that they were soul mates and that they met each other in a previous life, and that it was in the stars that they found each other. and that Prince was The One. She still believes it to this day; in spite of all that has gone down between them. You can see it every time she talks about him or them as a couple or their life together.

She is so pretty and nice. She should have moved on with her life (at 26... still a baby) and made new happy memories.

Just so sad. Dang, maybe SHE should find a nice nerdy rich doctor to marry and have babies with. Someone who will worship the ground she walk on and move heaven and earth to make her happy.

They are out there.

Just so damn depressing. If I had her looks and money... y'all couldn't tell me A DAMN THANG!! believe that!!

I hope this matchmaker can help her take the steps to let what that dream go.

If she hasn't she really needs to get some counseling. So she doesn't waste more time pining for that nicca.

Mayte better go ahead and auction that wedding china off. Get some dough off of that. I hope by the reunion show that she has gotten rid of it.

It does irritate me though how she doesn't seem to have moved on past P yet. She's still young and gorgeous and could date any guy she wants. Seems like ole girl just needs new friends to relate to. As she bonded with R. Kelly's ex wife....but she needs to get rid of Manuela, or maybe demote Manuela to an associate or something. I can only imagine Manuela laughing behind Mayte's back. That's what calculating hookers do.

Good Morning Everyone.

I have been waiting for this show just to see what it was about.

Glad to see that it wasn't a bunch of bitter women slamming their ex-husbands.

A few things I noted: to me it seems that Mayte is not over Prince yet. She seems very sad (as most would be when talking about a failed relationship) but she also seems wistful. I would think that after so long and having dated Tommy Lee that the Prince thing wouldn't sting so much, unless you still carried a torch.

The other thing I noted and hoped someone here could help with it.....Mayte said she lost two babies. We know about what I assume is the first, did she get pregnant a second time by Prince? Was it a miscarriage?

I ask because that could also explain the demise of their relationship. Him being the person he is, the loss of two children so close together would drive him deeper into himself, him ignoring his young wife who is in turmoil and in need of comfort that he didn't give. This would create a HUGE wedge and an irrepairable break.

This may also explain why it seems that he doesn't talk to her. Hurts him too much. Maybe he does have a conscience and knows he did her wrong.

Seeing Mayte with Mani makes me wonder if all the rumors about how Mani stole Mayte is true. I don't see Mayte as being that forgiving especially to sit and listen to her talk about her daughter when this subject hurts her so much.

Finally, I am hoping that Mayte is saving her money up and is smart and that is why she is living as she is. Not that she should be living in a mansion (as it is a waste of money) but to me, for the ex-wife of Prince, all those dogs and cats etc, she is living kinda cramped. Was the pre-nup that ironclad?

I finally saw the first 2 episodes of the show.

It's all a bit sad really. I think the only genuine people in it are Mayte and Andrea. Mayte is so clearly still living in the NPG days and is IN LOVE with early 90's Prince.

She just needs to let things go. She's holding on to all these things that are just keeping Prince in her thoughts constantly. Until she actually WANTS to move on and passed it (ie removing the things in her home that were of them as a couple etc) she will always be carrying a torch and holding on to the past.

WHY would you befriend the woman your ex-husband married after you? Regardless of 'shared experiences' it's just messed up. It's yet another way for her to hold on to a little bit of Prince.

The main difference with Mani and Mayte is Mayte was a child when she met Prince. She had NO LIFE at all outside of him until she was 26 and then she was left to fend for herself without having any knowledge or experience on how to do so.

Mani at least had a degree and was a little older and wiser when she came to Prince. Whether it was gold digging (which I believe it was) or not she knew what she was doing but still clearly chooses shoddy men for reasons of fame. Why would you go from Prince, a notorious ladies man, to Eric, a self confessed sex-addict? She's really moving up in the world, yeah?

I'll keep watching to see how it unfolds but I think it's very sad that after such a long time and clear attempts to rebel against her former Prince loving self (Tommy Lee) she still loves her first ever love.

BklynDiamond said:

Good Morning Everyone.

I have been waiting for this show just to see what it was about.

Glad to see that it wasn't a bunch of bitter women slamming their ex-husbands.

A few things I noted: to me it seems that Mayte is not over Prince yet. She seems very sad (as most would be when talking about a failed relationship) but she also seems wistful. I would think that after so long and having dated Tommy Lee that the Prince thing wouldn't sting so much, unless you still carried a torch.

The other thing I noted and hoped someone here could help with it.....Mayte said she lost two babies. We know about what I assume is the first, did she get pregnant a second time by Prince? Was it a miscarriage?

I ask because that could also explain the demise of their relationship. Him being the person he is, the loss of two children so close together would drive him deeper into himself, him ignoring his young wife who is in turmoil and in need of comfort that he didn't give. This would create a HUGE wedge and an irrepairable break.

This may also explain why it seems that he doesn't talk to her. Hurts him too much. Maybe he does have a conscience and knows he did her wrong.

Seeing Mayte with Mani makes me wonder if all the rumors about how Mani stole Mayte is true. I don't see Mayte as being that forgiving especially to sit and listen to her talk about her daughter when this subject hurts her so much.

Finally, I am hoping that Mayte is saving her money up and is smart and that is why she is living as she is. Not that she should be living in a mansion (as it is a waste of money) but to me, for the ex-wife of Prince, all those dogs and cats etc, she is living kinda cramped. Was the pre-nup that ironclad?

Yeah but BrooklynDiamond, in reference to the bolded part of your post, I don't think we could go on the assumptions or rumors that he ignored her after their child passed. None of us were there or in that relationship, and most of the time you have to remember that many fans pass around rumors that are often not true. So unless you hear it straight from either of their mouths, then I wouldn't consider that a fact. Same goes for the reason no one knows why they are not presently in contact with one another, as she stated, but that is something that would have to be worked out between the two of them, regardless of how others feel about it, as well. So unless some fan was there in the room with them, to see how they both handled and dealt with their loss, then none of us can say that he ignored or abandoned her feelings when their child passed. Losing a child is hard, and people grieve in their own ways and that should be respected to be honest. Only Prince and Mayte knows what happened behind closed doors with that situation, not the fans.

It's clear they've both pretty much moved on with their lives, and in her situation, because she still desires a child, and now searching for love and a relationship, maybe somehow she will to find a way to heal from her earlier loss, in order to move on. Maybe in the next couple of episodes, viewers will see how she handles that.

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TypoQueen said:

I can not view it here Stupid website says I am not allowed to view it

I hope this works...

http://www.vh1.com/video/...list.jhtml

2elijah said:

BklynDiamond said:

Good Morning Everyone.

I have been waiting for this show just to see what it was about.

Glad to see that it wasn't a bunch of bitter women slamming their ex-husbands.

A few things I noted: to me it seems that Mayte is not over Prince yet. She seems very sad (as most would be when talking about a failed relationship) but she also seems wistful. I would think that after so long and having dated Tommy Lee that the Prince thing wouldn't sting so much, unless you still carried a torch.

The other thing I noted and hoped someone here could help with it.....Mayte said she lost two babies. We know about what I assume is the first, did she get pregnant a second time by Prince? Was it a miscarriage?

I ask because that could also explain the demise of their relationship. Him being the person he is, the loss of two children so close together would drive him deeper into himself, him ignoring his young wife who is in turmoil and in need of comfort that he didn't give. This would create a HUGE wedge and an irrepairable break.

This may also explain why it seems that he doesn't talk to her. Hurts him too much. Maybe he does have a conscience and knows he did her wrong.

Seeing Mayte with Mani makes me wonder if all the rumors about how Mani stole Mayte is true. I don't see Mayte as being that forgiving especially to sit and listen to her talk about her daughter when this subject hurts her so much.

Finally, I am hoping that Mayte is saving her money up and is smart and that is why she is living as she is. Not that she should be living in a mansion (as it is a waste of money) but to me, for the ex-wife of Prince, all those dogs and cats etc, she is living kinda cramped. Was the pre-nup that ironclad?

Yeah but BrooklynDiamond, in reference to the bolded part of your post, I don't think we could go on the assumptions or rumors that he ignored her after their child passed. None of us were there or in that relationship, and most of the time you have to remember that many fans pass around rumors that are often not true. So unless you hear it straight from either of their mouths, then I wouldn't consider that a fact. Same goes for the reason no one knows why they are not presently in contact with one another, as she stated, but that is something that would have to be worked out between the two of them, regardless of how others feel about it, as well. So unless some fan was there in the room with them, to see how they both handled and dealt with their loss, then none of us can say that he ignored or abandoned her feelings when their child passed. Losing a child is hard, and people grieve in their own ways and that should be respected to be honest. Only Prince and Mayte knows what happened behind closed doors with that situation, not the fans.

It's clear they've both pretty much moved on with their lives, and in her situation, because she still desires a child, and now searching for love and a relationship, maybe somehow she will to find a way to heal from her earlier loss, in order to move on. Maybe in the next couple of episodes, viewers will see how she handles that.

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Hello 2 Elijah,

You are absolutely correct, and I did not mean it as a disrespect to either him or her. It just struck me that she said she lost two children. I only know of the one, not the other and was hoping someone could elaborate on the other child.

Also, you are correct that each person grieves differently, and I did not mean it as a diss to Prince. Just stating that it is possible that in their grief and their ways of dealing with it may not have been compatible to each other, thus causing a further rift (already dealing with loss).

Again, I meant no disrespect to either of them.....just something I caught.

prodigalfan said:

It is true that these are assumptions I think people think that prince left mayte to deal with this loss alone was because he went on the road to push the Emancipation project. Wasn't there 2 extensive concert tours during the time frame? Jam of the year and hit and run tour? And when did the piano concerts occur? The one night alone tour? Then recording a couple of albums. One night alone and the rave album. Finally moving mayte to Spain and then leaving her there. This happened in the span of 3 - 4 years. That is a lot to do in that time span and I thought it was said that once she married prince mayte was not in the group anymore so she was not going all over during these concert tours. No he took mani. How else was she in that video unless she was there with him. So that is why people conclude that prince dealt with his loss by throwing himself into work. And mayte cried herself into oblivion. In an interview after the loss of their son when asked prince replied he wished he could stop his wife from crying. And this was weeks or months after the loss. So that made me think that she couldn't let go of the pain. (surprise surprise she still cries about it and relives the experience of holding her baby) Imagine how it must have felt for prince if he was the type to just shut down emotionally to get pass the hurt and mayte is the type to wallow in it? I don't really blame either of them for the demise of their relationship. But it was so wrong to take up with mani during all of this. That was the worst thing he could've done. And honestly how could he do that to a friend let alone his "soul mate"? It is almost like mayte formed her self identity around the npg era and can't find her way now that is over. Counseling. And I bet losing the china AND mani would be the first goals. Neither can be healthy. It would be ok if mayte was well adjusted to what happened but she is not She is struggling.

Getting with Mani was wrong but at the time it made sense. She was young, pretty and willing to walk that mile with him religiously whether she was truly into it or not.

Counseling. And I bet losing the china AND mani would be the first goals. Neither can be healthy. It would be ok if mayte was well adjusted to what happened but she is not She is struggling.

I totally agree! THis is EXACTLY what she needs.

I couldn't have said it better myself. I definitely think Prince regrets what happened even though he 'never looks back'. I think Mayte has PTSD rightfully so about the loss of her child and is definitely in need of counseling. She will forever be stuck in this mode of Mayte the dancer with NPG if she never comes to terms with that time in her life being over. I honestly think with her being so young that she might have left him at some point anyway because she felt stifled by him. She needed to leave and discover herself...unfortunately I think she still struggles to create her own identity and find herself.

Sidenote: Prince could probably use some counseling too...I honestly think he has some Dysthymia or possibly Bipolar Disorder from all the interviews and things I have read about him. It seems like a lot of genuises and stars alike have psychological disorders of this nature.

prodigalfan said:

It is true that these are assumptions I think people think that prince left mayte to deal with this loss alone was because he went on the road to push the Emancipation project. Wasn't there 2 extensive concert tours during the time frame? Jam of the year and hit and run tour? And when did the piano concerts occur? The one night alone tour? Then recording a couple of albums. One night alone and the rave album. Finally moving mayte to Spain and then leaving her there. This happened in the span of 3 - 4 years. That is a lot to do in that time span and I thought it was said that once she married prince mayte was not in the group anymore so she was not going all over during these concert tours. No he took mani. How else was she in that video unless she was there with him. So that is why people conclude that prince dealt with his loss by throwing himself into work. And mayte cried herself into oblivion. In an interview after the loss of their son when asked prince replied he wished he could stop his wife from crying. And this was weeks or months after the loss. So that made me think that she couldn't let go of the pain. (surprise surprise she still cries about it and relives the experience of holding her baby) Imagine how it must have felt for prince if he was the type to just shut down emotionally to get pass the hurt and mayte is the type to wallow in it? I don't really blame either of them for the demise of their relationship. But it was so wrong to take up with mani during all of this. That was the worst thing he could've done. And honestly how could he do that to a friend let alone his "soul mate"? It is almost like mayte formed her self identity around the npg era and can't find her way now that is over. Counseling. And I bet losing the china AND mani would be the first goals. Neither can be healthy. It would be ok if mayte was well adjusted to what happened but she is not She is struggling.

paintedlady said:

BklynDiamond said:

2elijah said:

Yeah but BrooklynDiamond, in reference to the bolded part of your post, I don't think we could go on the assumptions or rumors that he ignored her after their child passed. None of us were there or in that relationship, and most of the time you have to remember that many fans pass around rumors that are often not true. So unless you hear it straight from either of their mouths, then I wouldn't consider that a fact. Same goes for the reason no one knows why they are not presently in contact with one another, as she stated, but that is something that would have to be worked out between the two of them, regardless of how others feel about it, as well. So unless some fan was there in the room with them, to see how they both handled and dealt with their loss, then none of us can say that he ignored or abandoned her feelings when their child passed. Losing a child is hard, and people grieve in their own ways and that should be respected to be honest. Only Prince and Mayte knows what happened behind closed doors with that situation, not the fans.

It's clear they've both pretty much moved on with their lives, and in her situation, because she still desires a child, and now searching for love and a relationship, maybe somehow she will to find a way to heal from her earlier loss, in order to move on. Maybe in the next couple of episodes, viewers will see how she handles that.

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Hello 2 Elijah,

You are absolutely correct, and I did not mean it as a disrespect to either him or her. It just struck me that she said she lost two children. I only know of the one, not the other and was hoping someone could elaborate on the other child.

Also, you are correct that each person grieves differently, and I did not mean it as a diss to Prince. Just stating that it is possible that in their grief and their ways of dealing with it may not have been compatible to each other, thus causing a further rift (already dealing with loss).

Again, I meant no disrespect to either of them.....just something I caught.

Hi there!

It's all good, no need to apologize, and I didn't mean to make you feel that way or that you had to apologize, so please forgive me if that is how I came across to you, as that was not my intention at all. You're just sharing your opinion is all. Often times though there are rumors that are started by fans who have no concrete evidence if some of what has been rumored is true. Most fans just go by hearsay the majority of the time, but I just feel if someone didn't hear any of the rumors from both Prince and Mayte's mouths, regarding how they both grieved about their loss together, in their most private moments, then it's not true. Both parents lost their child and how they both grieved about their loss is only known and can be confirmed by both of them, not by the assumptions and rumors of fans who think they know, and then make what they think they know, their own, unconfirmed story.

On the show Mayte did share in her own words, that she did have one child but lost him, and during a second pregnancy, had a miscarriage. So I gather that would be hard for any parent to deal with. About the grieving process, I would agree people grieve in their own ways as well, and all one can do is respect that.

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prodigalfan said:

It is true that these are assumptions I think people think that prince left mayte to deal with this loss alone was because he went on the road to push the Emancipation project. Wasn't there 2 extensive concert tours during the time frame? Jam of the year and hit and run tour? And when did the piano concerts occur? The one night alone tour? Then recording a couple of albums. One night alone and the rave album. Finally moving mayte to Spain and then leaving her there. This happened in the span of 3 - 4 years. That is a lot to do in that time span and I thought it was said that once she married prince mayte was not in the group anymore so she was not going all over during these concert tours. No he took mani. How else was she in that video unless she was there with him. So that is why people conclude that prince dealt with his loss by throwing himself into work. And mayte cried herself into oblivion. In an interview after the loss of their son when asked prince replied he wished he could stop his wife from crying. And this was weeks or months after the loss. So that made me think that she couldn't let go of the pain. (surprise surprise she still cries about it and relives the experience of holding her baby) Imagine how it must have felt for prince if he was the type to just shut down emotionally to get pass the hurt and mayte is the type to wallow in it? I don't really blame either of them for the demise of their relationship. But it was so wrong to take up with mani during all of this. That was the worst thing he could've done. And honestly how could he do that to a friend let alone his "soul mate"? It is almost like mayte formed her self identity around the npg era and can't find her way now that is over. Counseling. And I bet losing the china AND mani would be the first goals. Neither can be healthy. It would be ok if mayte was well adjusted to what happened but she is not She is struggling.

That is exactly what happened. She joined the NPG when she was still a child. And from that moment on, her identity was completely bound to that of Prince and to her role in the group. Prince made it that way. He controlled her life from pillar to post - what she wore, how she looked, how she spoke, who she loved (him and only him). It's only natural that something is now and forever missing in her life.

I know what it's like to have who you are be all about what you do - because that happened to me. If the day comes when you can no longer do what you do, you no longer know who you are. It is absolutely devastating.

Fortunately, in my case, I recognized the problem and - while it took awhile - I corrected it. Made a conscious effort not to allow what I did to influence who I was. (I've been mostly successful at that.)

But I didn't go through what Mayte did. I didn't have a Svengali create an entire identity for me - only to reject me later because our child (or more than one, perhaps) died. I lost my career-based identity, but I didn't lose my first and deepest love, or any children.

Mayte may look fine on the outside, but she's still a wreck inside.

lauralevesque said:

prodigalfan said:

damn!

I didn't really "get it" until this post right here.

So it wasn't enough that Mani stole Mayte's man... now she gotta come on Mayte's DAMN SHOW AND BASICALLY RUB MAYTE'S NOSE IN THIS "I win again bitch!""

I'm not sure if Mani was so much after Prince as much as she was after Mayte's man.

That's what I've always suspected! That she more wanted to "one-up" Mayte than even be with Prince. Like a single white female! Like, "I want to BE YOU, bitch!" That's just my opinion. Now bitch is tallking down to Mayte. Um.Um.Um.....

Apparently Ms. Mani is missing a "sensitivity chip".

There really never was a reason for them to be "friendly" in the first place.

And that is it in a nutshell. Many of us have had parts of life's tragedy happen to us. Divorce, or loss of career and self identity, betrayal of loved ones or loss of a child.

But Mayte had all of this happened to her at once.

I keep hearing that Mani was Mayte's assistant before Prince hooked up with her. So the way Prince kept away from family I would imagine Mani and Mayte probably got pretty tight because for Mayte, there was no one else her age that she could socialize with.

Then Mani hooks up with her husband. It was probably like Mayte's best friend and confidant betraying her with her husband. ULTIMATE betrayal.

And now that Prince is older and to me he seems more grounded; I imagine he does regret how things went down between him and Mayte especially seeing how she can't move on and is basically whithering away on the vine.

But what can he do about it now? Too much time and things have happened for them to ever work together to fix it.

I hope this show leads to Mayte healing. And PTSD is probably close to what she went through.

And I do think Genesia is correct. To have your first EVERYTHING to be a man like Prince.... it is a pretty hard act to follow. And things can only go down hill.

Imagine being 16 and inexperienced and the cute guy who is blowing your head with sunshine is PRINCE!!

Imagine being 26 and a divorcee and buried 1 (maybe 2) children.

So sad.

And I can't help but feel badly of the pimpette in this triangle. Mani is tough. She is going to get hers. She just moved on from that train wreck pretty much unscathed.

So I finally saw the second episode with Manuela. Yeesh, not cool and insensitive on Manuela's part going on and one about her baby, however, I know these things are scripted so I assume it was done on purpose with Mayte's prior knowledge for dramatic effect, however I don't know. I wouldnt have done that, its just,,,gosh.

I finally got around to episode 2: overall I enjoyed it as far as reality shows go, and I understand that these two episodes were supposed to provide the "exposition" to give us every cast member's background so that was interesting enough. Having been divorced myself, I can empathize with how difficult it is to adjust to a life completely different than what you came to know as your truth and reality, so I look forward to cheering the ladies on as they try new things and continue to step out of their comfort zones.

So far, I'm enjoying Andrea Kelly the most for laughs. She seems to have a good spirit and is always ready to smile or laugh. Nicole is very even keel and I like that as well. Reality shows generally have too many high strung personalities and she seems pretty steady. Mayte is sweet, but Lord all those animals ! I did feel for her very much though as she discussed the loss of her son. We have a couple close to us who lost their infant a few years ago and the mother is still so deeply in grief, it's heartbreaking, and it's still extraordinarily difficult for her to be around small children, or hear of people discussing babies in her presence. It is often said that it simply is not the natural way of things for a mother to outlive her child, so it makes so much sense to me that the grief one feels when they are faced with that kind of tragedy is immeasurable...which brings me to that second wife of Prince's and her waving that damned smart phone all over the place with baby pictures: really ??? That was incredibly uncomfortable to watch given that it's so well known what Mayte went through with the loss pof a child. I thought it was crass and insensitive and certainly didn't earn the Manuela woman any cool points.

Fletcher the First Lady? I'll be interested to see how she can keep a spiritual balance with being on a tv show of this sort, and Jessica Conseco? I guess every show needs one trouble maker/controversial person to set tongues wagging, and she seems to be up for the task. Frankly speaking, she really could have saved the vagina segment for a non-filming day.