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Reply #120 posted 05/20/11 6:21am

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Maybe ( just maybe ) JILL knows something non of us knows......Just because she have'nt spoken to Prince in years , does'nt mean that they don't keep in touch with the same people. Seems like her concern is real. Who Knows !!!!

I think she gets a bad rap because she is so vocal about some of the things she went through with him that non of us knows.......

by the way guys, I'm new hear, but was a former poster at Housequake, but I see not much have changed with all the beefing with each other, but nevertheless, glad to be back and catch up on all the Princely stories, music, etc.

Well she definately knows him better than any of us. I did agree with her one time when she was ranting about her video being taken down from youtube when she co-wrote the song with Prince. I guess from my perspective of dealing with an ex who once did me wrong, I may never have anything nice to say about the person but I sure as hell years later not concern myself with what makes him happy and how he spends his time. lol

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Reply #121 posted 05/20/11 6:31am

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Shorty said:

Kettle....it's Kettle

thanks

sweetheart re-read the comments again ...& see who said what

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Reply #122 posted 05/20/11 6:55am

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Militant said:

Here's the thing. Aside from the whole "it's her page, she can posts what she wants" argument... which I AGREE with, the comment itself is troubling, because by her own admission she hasn't spoken to Prince in a long time, and given that she recently accused him of physical abuse, that's hardly surprising. It's probably safe to say that she hasn't spoken to him in at least a decade, if not the entire 20 years since she left the camp.

So saying something like "it makes me sad that he has nothing else" is just unfair. Because she doesn't know. And them having been friends over 20 years ago is completely irrelevant to that fact. Listen, Prince plays shows like that, for those lengths because it's what he loves to do. You can see it in his face. If he didn't want to be doing it, he wouldn't. Pretty obvious.

Prince has a great band whom he has fun with, ALL over the world, he has friends like Sheila who he's known for the better part of 30 years, chances are he's romantically/sexually involved with somebody, whether it be Misty or somebody else, he does what he wants, he can be playing shows in California and then jet off to NYC on a whim to see Misty perform, he's donating a great deal of money to various charities which is a positive feeling no matter how you look at it, he can literally have his pick of any festival or event in the world who will all go OUT of their way to accomodate him as well as paying him a great deal of money, he can literally jam with both his musical idols (like Stevie) as well as new artists he's digging (like Janelle) whenever he wants....... so what exactly DOESN'T he have and what qualifies Jill to feel sorry for him? And the "maybe she knows something" or whatever argument holds no water because none of us are the same people we were even 5 years ago, let alone 20.

I like Jill. Always have. And I defend her right to say what she wants. But she knows damn well what she's doing when she makes comments like this. She knows P's fans are reading. And there's something about it that makes you instantly question the motivation of the comments. Nobody knows whether she's genuine with her concern but her. But the very fact that it's instantly questionable is troubling. It's like she's reaching to find a negative. But from my perspective, it seems to me that the positives in Prince's life are far, far outweighing any questionable negative. I think Prince is happier than he has been for a while.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You don't know what she knows. You don't know what her intentions were.

She left one line and org wackjobs went to pieces. What does that say? It says that at the end of it all, everybody who is fanatical will be fanatical regardless of what is said. So what if she was trying to stir up shit? Why is it "troubling?" Prince made it very difficult for people associated with him to get any credit or respect because he took claim of it all early on. Its not surprizing that she might be a bit resentful if she feels she was slighted by him or if she feels or knows that he has been blocking her career moves. Matthew Knowles is proof of how easily someone in the position can do that.

I'm not on her facebook page. I don't know what she puts on her wall or whatever. I do know that fanbots go absolutely batshit crazy whenever she or Mani or any of Prince's past lovers say anything. It is instantly turned into a negative and they are tongue-lashed to hell for it.

That signifies idolworship and it says more about the nutty fans than it does about them.

But BK, aren't you the one going batsh*t crazy over this more than the so-called "fanbots" here? lol I mean your posts are screaming "crazy" all over it and the namecalling is unnecessary, yet you're complaining about other people here calling her names and going off the bandwagon over her comment. At least be the example of the point you're trying to make, while not doing the same thing you're complaining about. Just don't think it's worth going batty over.

You stated Jill has a right to post whatever she wants on her FB page, and you're correct on that, I agree with you, but at the same time, you can't stop people from reacting to it. There's no way, she didn't expect a reaction from the friends she befriended on her page, even if her message wasn't snatched off her FB page and posted here by a possible FB friend or someone who was lurking on her page and saw the message, if she didn't have it set to private. It's unfortunate that former girlfriends/ex-wives/former band associates have to tread lightly when posting info that may be in regard to P or assumed by another that it may be in regards to him, but when they do post a message that may reference him, whether it's true from the heart or possibly out of malice , there will always be some, small chance, that someone, maybe a Prince fan, will get hold of that message and post it elsewhere for others to see. Guess that's a chance anyone takes when joining any social networking/message board/website. shrug

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Reply #123 posted 05/20/11 7:04am

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you know....I just went through and read all of the responses to both her comments....there was only ONE jerk who said she looked fat in PR...(which was a totally stupid and uncalled for thing to say)

All the other comments were along the lines of oh Jill, you are so right, he is so lonley and we can only pray for him...and lots of other Jill you're the best comments. There was more Prince bashing going on than ANYTHING else. NO Jill bashing what so ever. There was ONE person who tried to chime in with a comment like hey...we don't really know and neither does Jill but other than that it was a kiss jill ass fest. (not that there's anything wrong with that)

So I'm not even sure why this thread has gone in the direction of talking about crazy fanatical fans that come to prince's defense because No body did. "org whackjobs went to pieces"...ahh...No they didn't.

she called you "thepope2th9s" and "animal" confused for posting this thread here... an "animal" really? bit harsh and seemingly defensive I'd say...but that's m POV.

"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #124 posted 05/20/11 7:24am

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wow, I think Militant summed it all up perfectly. It is really sad that Jill has been reduced to this, sure we're allowed to make comments and observations and subsequently draw up our own conclusions. So as Jill has done this with P and made her own conclusions then please allow me to make mine about Jill. She is still an amazing beauty with a fiesty voice and a fiesty attitude BUT her comments do come off as just plain bitter. I wish her well and hope that her dignity comes back.

p.s. the best revenge is to kep those unreleased trax coming!

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Reply #125 posted 05/20/11 9:10am

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Militant said:

Here's the thing. Aside from the whole "it's her page, she can posts what she wants" argument... which I AGREE with, the comment itself is troubling, because by her own admission she hasn't spoken to Prince in a long time, and given that she recently accused him of physical abuse, that's hardly surprising. It's probably safe to say that she hasn't spoken to him in at least a decade, if not the entire 20 years since she left the camp.

So saying something like "it makes me sad that he has nothing else" is just unfair. Because she doesn't know. And them having been friends over 20 years ago is completely irrelevant to that fact. Listen, Prince plays shows like that, for those lengths because it's what he loves to do. You can see it in his face. If he didn't want to be doing it, he wouldn't. Pretty obvious.

Prince has a great band whom he has fun with, ALL over the world, he has friends like Sheila who he's known for the better part of 30 years, chances are he's romantically/sexually involved with somebody, whether it be Misty or somebody else, he does what he wants, he can be playing shows in California and then jet off to NYC on a whim to see Misty perform, he's donating a great deal of money to various charities which is a positive feeling no matter how you look at it, he can literally have his pick of any festival or event in the world who will all go OUT of their way to accomodate him as well as paying him a great deal of money, he can literally jam with both his musical idols (like Stevie) as well as new artists he's digging (like Janelle) whenever he wants....... so what exactly DOESN'T he have and what qualifies Jill to feel sorry for him? And the "maybe she knows something" or whatever argument holds no water because none of us are the same people we were even 5 years ago, let alone 20.

I like Jill. Always have. And I defend her right to say what she wants. But she knows damn well what she's doing when she makes comments like this. She knows P's fans are reading. And there's something about it that makes you instantly question the motivation of the comments. Nobody knows whether she's genuine with her concern but her. But the very fact that it's instantly questionable is troubling. It's like she's reaching to find a negative. But from my perspective, it seems to me that the positives in Prince's life are far, far outweighing any questionable negative. I think Prince is happier than he has been for a while.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't know what she knows.

And I don't know what you know, and you don't know what I know, and Jill doesn't know what Prince knows. See? It works both ways. It's called opinions, we all have them, we discuss them, that is the point of this forum. Wanna know something Jill definitely does NOT know? Whether Prince is happy or not.

It would seem that her opinion is that he may not be. But she doesn't know Prince. By her own admission they do not talk and all evidence indicates they have not done in some time. They may not have talked at all in 20 years, and if they have it's extremely unlikely that it was a conversation with any depth to it. And as is evident - Prince is a different person now to the person he was even ten years ago. So that argument holds no weight. Would you say that someone you may have been close to decades ago could possibly know whether or not you're happy now? Especially an ex-girlfriend and former employee who, regardless of the reasons why, clearly has an axe to grind? Forget about it being Prince and Jill. Replace those names with anyone. The conclusion remains the same.


You don't know what her intentions were.

I already said that in my post. Nobody does. But true sincerity is almost always transparent in it's honesty.

She left one line and org wackjobs went to pieces. What does that say? It says that at the end of it all, everybody who is fanatical will be fanatical regardless of what is said.

So everybody that disagrees with her is a wackjob? How about you climb down off that high horse and quit looking down at people? Listen, some people admittedly take things too far but I bet you everything I own that Prince still appreciates the sentiment. People care about art. People are passionate about art. We're ALL here because we look up to Prince in one way or another, whether simply as a talented artist or as a human being as well. There is NOTHING wrong with that and it's sort of ironic that you're criticizing people for judging Jill on her comments while sitting behind your computer and doing the exact same thing.

You can be opposed to fanaticism all you want. Most reasonable, intelligent people are. But see, your approach is fuelling the fire. Calling people wackjobs and being apathetic about whether someone was "trying to stir up shit". Everyone has a projection, a perceived identity in one way or the other. Most of us are passionate about Prince (we wouldn't be here otherwise) because he's enriched our lives on a very deep level through what he does. And yes, people are entitled to feel extremely grateful for that. That is their prerogative. And it's only natural that people will be unhappy about perceived attacks on Prince. So what's your self-granted position? The guy that shits on all of those people and insults them because he doesn't agree? That's funny, because that's exactly what you claim to be upset about.

And no, it's not the same "regardless of what is said". That is nonsense. You're generalizing an entire group of people who YOU'VE decided are "fanatical" and "wackjobs". Any one of those people may know something YOU don't know. Argument subverted right back on you.

So what if she was trying to stir up shit? Why is it "troubling?"

Um, because in life, people tend not to like that kind of thing? How can you say "So what if she was trying to stir up shit?" on one hand, and then complain on the other that people are upset about it? What kind of random assbackwards logic is that?

It's troubling because masquerading angry and bitter feelings under the guise of "caring" is unpleasant. Am I saying that's DEFINITELY what she's doing? No. But there's enough people who do believe that to make it worth acknowledging their point. And it's troubling to ME personally because Jill's smart enough to know exactly what's gonna happen when making vague, flawed statements about someone that's appreciated and loved by millions of people, and I like Jill. I don't want to see people slamming her, the same way I don't want to see her, or anyone else slamming Prince. I'm not personally upset or offended about anything she's said. But I totally get why some people might be. That's their prerogative - so if there's nothing wrong with her "trying to stir up shit"... then surely, you would believe that there's nothing wrong with people getting upset and attacking her for it. But clearly, you don't. So which is it?

I personally don't find any merit in what she said. She's projecting her own life views and assuming the same applies to everyone else. That's a lack of self-awareness. And claiming he has nobody that means enough to him to stop doing what he does....... what? By that judgement he would have never had ANYONE that meant a lot to him, and it's pretty clear that both Mayte and Manuela did, otherwise he would not have married them.

Clearly to Jill, having someone that means a lot to you, means.......that you don't play long shows regularly? That you don't work hard? I don't get that. Like I said, she assumes that Prince's views, outlooks and ideals match her own. Clearly they don't. We know what happens when Prince has someone that means a lot to him. He works even harder writing loads of songs, look at "Emancipation", the entire middle disc is about Mayte pretty much. That's his expression. That's what he does. Again - Prince would NOT be doing what he does if it didn't make him happy.

Prince made it very difficult for people associated with him to get any credit or respect because he took claim of it all early on. Its not surprizing that she might be a bit resentful if she feels she was slighted by him or if she feels or knows that he has been blocking her career moves. Matthew Knowles is proof of how easily someone in the position can do that.


I'm not on her facebook page. I don't know what she puts on her wall or whatever. I do know that fanbots go absolutely batshit crazy whenever she or Mani or any of Prince's past lovers say anything. It is instantly turned into a negative and they are tongue-lashed to hell for it.

That signifies idolworship and it says more about the nutty fans than it does about them.

I'm not disputing that. She's clearly been resentful in the past. I don't think she would even deny that herself. How is that relevant? Are you agreeing that these comments are fueled by those negative feelings, justified or otherwise? It seems that way otherwise why bring it up? And if that's the case, you're agreeing with the very same "wackjobs" and "fanbots" that you claim to be against.

And no, it's not about "idolworship" and "nutty fans". That WOULD be a valid point if you assume that these people are completely unaware of what happens when you say something negative about a person with a massive fanbase. They know that because like you said - it happens regularly. They all know damn well what's gonna happen. It's not some new phenomenon. Spark some debate, get some tongues wagging, whatever, but it's cause and effect. They know the effect. They caused it. I happen to know for a FACT that some former associates simply refuse to talk about Prince at all because they know anything slightly negative might cause a backlash and people will view them as not moving on with their lives. Surely that is the more mature option?

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Reply #126 posted 05/20/11 9:16am

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Seriously, will you people get the fuck over it and mind your own business. Let people discuss their own fucking lives, stop overanalyzing someone else's life. Focus on your own life.

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Reply #127 posted 05/20/11 9:27am

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funkyhead said:

wow, I think Militant summed it all up perfectly. It is really sad that Jill has been reduced to this, sure we're allowed to make comments and observations and subsequently draw up our own conclusions. So as Jill has done this with P and made her own conclusions then please allow me to make mine about Jill. She is still an amazing beauty with a fiesty voice and a fiesty attitude BUT her comments do come off as just plain bitter. I wish her well and hope that her dignity comes back.

p.s. the best revenge is to kep those unreleased trax coming!

LOL! yeahthat

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Reply #128 posted 05/20/11 10:11am

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funkyhead said:

wow, I think Militant summed it all up perfectly.

Thanks man.

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Reply #129 posted 05/20/11 10:15am

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Militant said:

BlaqueKnight said:

Um, because in life, people tend not to like that kind of thing? How can you say "So what if she was trying to stir up shit?" on one hand, and then complain on the other that people are upset about it? What kind of random assbackwards logic is that?

It's troubling because masquerading angry and bitter feelings under the guise of "caring" is unpleasant. Am I saying that's DEFINITELY what she's doing? No. But there's enough people who do believe that to make it worth acknowledging their point. And it's troubling to ME personally because Jill's smart enough to know exactly what's gonna happen when making vague, flawed statements about someone that's appreciated and loved by millions of people, and I like Jill. I don't want to see people slamming her, the same way I don't want to see her, or anyone else slamming Prince. I'm not personally upset or offended about anything she's said. But I totally get why some people might be. That's their prerogative - so if there's nothing wrong with her "trying to stir up shit"... then surely, you would believe that there's nothing wrong with people getting upset and attacking her for it. But clearly, you don't. So which is it?

I personally don't find any merit in what she said. She's projecting her own life views and assuming the same applies to everyone else. That's a lack of self-awareness. And claiming he has nobody that means enough to him to stop doing what he does....... what? By that judgement he would have never had ANYONE that meant a lot to him, and it's pretty clear that both Mayte and Manuela did, otherwise he would not have married them.

Clearly to Jill, having someone that means a lot to you, means.......that you don't play long shows regularly? That you don't work hard? I don't get that. Like I said, she assumes that Prince's views, outlooks and ideals match her own. Clearly they don't. We know what happens when Prince has someone that means a lot to him. He works even harder writing loads of songs, look at "Emancipation", the entire middle disc is about Mayte pretty much. That's his expression. That's what he does. Again - Prince would NOT be doing what he does if it didn't make him happy.

Prince made it very difficult for people associated with him to get any credit or respect because he took claim of it all early on. Its not surprizing that she might be a bit resentful if she feels she was slighted by him or if she feels or knows that he has been blocking her career moves. Matthew Knowles is proof of how easily someone in the position can do that.


I'm not on her facebook page. I don't know what she puts on her wall or whatever. I do know that fanbots go absolutely batshit crazy whenever she or Mani or any of Prince's past lovers say anything. It is instantly turned into a negative and they are tongue-lashed to hell for it.

That signifies idolworship and it says more about the nutty fans than it does about them.

I'm not disputing that. She's clearly been resentful in the past. I don't think she would even deny that herself. How is that relevant? Are you agreeing that these comments are fueled by those negative feelings, justified or otherwise? It seems that way otherwise why bring it up? And if that's the case, you're agreeing with the very same "wackjobs" and "fanbots" that you claim to be against.

And no, it's not about "idolworship" and "nutty fans". That WOULD be a valid point if you assume that these people are completely unaware of what happens when you say something negative about a person with a massive fanbase. They know that because like you said - it happens regularly. They all know damn well what's gonna happen. It's not some new phenomenon. Spark some debate, get some tongues wagging, whatever, but it's cause and effect. They know the effect. They caused it. I happen to know for a FACT that some former associates simply refuse to talk about Prince at all because they know anything slightly negative might cause a backlash and people will view them as not moving on with their lives. Surely that is the more mature option?

I personally fucking LOVE your posts. Thank GOD for you! smile

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"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #130 posted 05/20/11 10:17am

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Spinlight said:

Seriously, will you people get the fuck over it and mind your own business. Let people discuss their own fucking lives, stop overanalyzing someone else's life. Focus on your own life.

falloff you're in here reading everyword but...we gotta mind our own bisiness. lol

step out bud...step out

"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #131 posted 05/20/11 10:26am

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Shorty said:

I personally fucking LOVE your posts. Thank GOD for you! smile


Awww, thanks Shorty. Appreciated.

I think some people are forgetting that we are presently on a Prince message board, the purpose of which is to discuss Prince, in a sub-forum dedicated to the discussion of artists that are associated with Prince.

An associated artist makes a controversial comment about Prince....... oh, let's not discuss it at all and talk about how great their album was for the billionth time instead.

rolleyes

lol

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Reply #132 posted 05/20/11 10:34am

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wonder505 said:

Hey, I'm not trying to take anyone's "opinion" away from them. Sheeesh. I don't care. Don't get mad at me because I don't value your opinion as much as you do. That's life. Get over it.

My point is she left one sentence and people are getting bent out of shape over it. Right to critique? Sure. Right to opinions? Sure. Nowhere in ANY of my posts does it say that people don't have a right to their opinions. I NEVER SAID THAT.

2elijah said:

I'm not trying to stop anything. This is a discussion board. I'm discussing, just like everyone else is.

"So everybody that disagrees with her is a wackjob?"

No, Militant. I did not say that. Don't try to strawman this. That type of deceit is most disrespectful and I will call you on it EVERY TIME. A hurt dog will holler. If you are not a wackjob, then it obviously does not apply. There are people on this site who are fanatical about Prince. It is their right to be and I'm not trying to take it away just as I'm not trying to stop anyone from criticizing Jill for her comment. Its funny though, how some people on here will be overly defensive about the smallest thing (like what she said) and then criticize others who call them on it and try to make them out to be the bad guy/girl.

Jill didn't say anything malicious in that sentence. The tone/motive/mindset behind it is debatable but what she said is not. Some take it as malice and run with it and they do the same to all of his ex-gfs/bandmates/etc.

And NO, I don't believe she or any other associated artist should have to walk on eggshells when it comes to Prince. So what if the fans don't like it? Of course she has to know there would be some feedback. I'm sure she could handle it. There is no reason anyone should have to be subservant to anyone else. It is fanatical to do so, therefore you can't expect everyone else who doesn't view life in that way to accept or appreciate it.

I'm done on this thread.

Peace.

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Reply #133 posted 05/20/11 10:47am

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Seriously, will you people get the fuck over it and mind your own business. Let people discuss their own fucking lives, stop overanalyzing someone else's life. Focus on your own life.

you are kidding right!, she lit the fuse after all with a truly ill informed observation. She ain't dumb and knew what the reaction would be.

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Reply #134 posted 05/20/11 10:50am

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BlaqueKnight said:

wonder505 said:

Hey, I'm not trying to take anyone's "opinion" away from them. Sheeesh. I don't care. Don't get mad at me because I don't value your opinion as much as you do. That's life. Get over it.

My point is she left one sentence and people are getting bent out of shape over it. Right to critique? Sure. Right to opinions? Sure. Nowhere in ANY of my posts does it say that people don't have a right to their opinions. I NEVER SAID THAT.

Mad? Are you kidding? lol oh please. I could care less if you value my opinion or not. and btw, the wackjobs you refer to goes both ways, including those who are fanatical of their hate/disdain for Prince or those who defend him.

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Reply #135 posted 05/20/11 1:43pm

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Jill didn't say anything malicious in that sentence.

It's not malicious but it's condescending and disingenuous to try and pity someone. And it's misleading to try and make his fans feel like there is a reason to do that.

Any pop artist, especially megastars, make their living essentially through being elevated by their fans being in awe of their talent. That's what makes up their core fanbase. Whether it's Prince, or MJ or Gaga, or anyone.

There is no reason that ANYONE needs to pity Prince. He's one of the most iconic artists of all time, worth hundreds of millions, still selling out arenas worldwide, sleeping with anyone he wants, playing anywhere he wants with anyone he wants.

So to play on the fact that you worked and had a relationship with him DECADES ago to imply that you have an insight onto his state of mind and claim that you're concerned because "he doesn't have anyone" and that if he DID, it would encourage him to work less? And to imply his life is not balanced and use that to question his happiness? That's uncalled for.

If these comments were coming from somebody that knows him NOW, hell even someone that may have been close to him at any stage in the last few years.... it would mean a LOT more. Even better if they don't clearly have personal issues with him.

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Reply #136 posted 05/20/11 2:22pm

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Jill Jones should unfriend anybody who has a picture of Prince or a prince as their profile pic and then start deleting anyone with a Princesque alias. Obviously they're not there because of what she's doing now but for what she did 20 some odd years ago!

When eye go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all heart up in the house but when eye log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming!
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Reply #137 posted 05/20/11 2:30pm

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Militant said:

BlaqueKnight said:

Jill didn't say anything malicious in that sentence.

It's not malicious but it's condescending and disingenuous to try and pity someone. And it's misleading to try and make his fans feel like there is a reason to do that.

Any pop artist, especially megastars, make their living essentially through being elevated by their fans being in awe of their talent. That's what makes up their core fanbase. Whether it's Prince, or MJ or Gaga, or anyone.

There is no reason that ANYONE needs to pity Prince. He's one of the most iconic artists of all time, worth hundreds of millions, still selling out arenas worldwide, sleeping with anyone he wants, playing anywhere he wants with anyone he wants.

So to play on the fact that you worked and had a relationship with him DECADES ago to imply that you have an insight onto his state of mind and claim that you're concerned because "he doesn't have anyone" and that if he DID, it would encourage him to work less? And to imply his life is not balanced and use that to question his happiness? That's uncalled for.

If these comments were coming from somebody that knows him NOW, hell even someone that may have been close to him at any stage in the last few years.... it would mean a LOT more. Even better if they don't clearly have personal issues with him.

Exactly. Say Sheila E. said this......like people said when Mani had her own two cents to chirp in a few weeks or months back.......then we could talk.

Bless your heart Militant for having the time and patience to articulate sentiments that a lot of us agree with.....some silently and of course a few publically as well.... and doing so tastefully..........you do it well.

I for one couldn't be bothered with the back and forth even though I'm thinking exactly the same thing.

Prince sure ain't losing sleep over this....so those with the elevated blood pressure....can continue to get riled up over people having opinions.

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Reply #138 posted 05/20/11 2:40pm

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HonestMan13 said:

Jill Jones should unfriend anybody who has a picture of Prince or a prince as their profile pic and then start deleting anyone with a Princesque alias. Obviously they're not there because of what she's doing now but for what she did 20 some odd years ago!

Cha know, i've wondered about this. In addition, people tag Jill or Lisa in the most random pictures of Prince that they aren't in. Can't you set your tagging feature to self-censor or something? And who are the nutjobs that are tagging them in Prince photos in the first place. I mean, really? Seriously? LOL

And to address the Militant and Guitar debate going on up there, interesting take. Now, do we really need the masturbatory, "I agree with you", "I always love your comments" crap? Really? Seriously? LOL

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Reply #139 posted 05/20/11 2:45pm

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There is no reason that ANYONE needs to pity Prince. He's one of the most iconic artists of all time, worth hundreds of millions, still selling out arenas worldwide, sleeping with anyone he wants, playing anywhere he wants with anyone he wants.

So to play on the fact that you worked and had a relationship with him DECADES ago to imply that you have an insight onto his state of mind and claim that you're concerned because "he doesn't have anyone" and that if he DID, it would encourage him to work less? And to imply his life is not balanced and use that to question his happiness? That's uncalled for.

If these comments were coming from somebody that knows him NOW, hell even someone that may have been close to him at any stage in the last few years.... it would mean a LOT more. Even better if they don't clearly have personal issues with him.

You nor anyone else on here (inlcuding me) truly knows what their relationship is (despite what was said in interview X years ago).

For all we know they had dinner last week or chatted on the phone....... it doesn't matter. Yu DON"T KNOW, I don't know, etc.

It's quite ridiculous for all of us strangers to be judging what 1 person said about their friend/former lover etc.

And to say that it's "uncalled for" for her to question his happiness or have an opinion? that is uncalled for.

Yes yes, you are entitles to "your opinion about her opinion" etc. The thing is, she posted it on FB for her friends to see, comment on, whatever.

The original poster did not need to copy and paste it here to the ORG (if she wanted a dialog on here, she couldn've posted it on here) with the sole intent of bashing her. Sure the OP is entitled to his opinion.... but IMO it's in poor taste and obnoxious.

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Reply #140 posted 05/20/11 2:46pm

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Jill Jones should unfriend anybody who has a picture of Prince or a prince as their profile pic and then start deleting anyone with a Princesque alias.

Everyone in the whole wide world should do this. Seriously.

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Reply #141 posted 05/20/11 2:53pm

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This thread has really gone on far too long with people repeating the same points over and over again.

In Sum: No, she shouldn't have done it, if she really had concern for Prince she would have spoken to him directly and not gone to the media about it (and nothing is done 'innocently' on a public facebook page, its naive to think that.) And just because she can't comprehend enjoying performing frequently that doesn't mean Prince is the same, its his passion.

You can't really assume people have the same feelings about the same thing, ie some people prefer chocolate some people prefer vanilla, you can't assume someone is poorer for enjoying something you don't personally like.

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Reply #142 posted 05/20/11 2:59pm

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Militant said:

I personally fucking LOVE your posts. Thank GOD for you! smile


Militant has some interesting and well thought out posts [img:$uid]http://www.shydtchat.com/forum/Smileys/default/iagree.gif[/img:$uid]

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Reply #143 posted 05/20/11 2:59pm

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I love Jill, I think she's brilliant, extremely talented, and free to express herself even if some of us die-hard PRINCE fans don't like it.

Seem like so much have happened over the years to alot of the ex-protege's of the Prince camp but only Jill seems to have the balls enough to say what she feels from her point of view. We may not like what she says but it's her right to have her opinion.

I've seen some of her rants in the past at HouseQuake but I never took it as a ex-girlfriend being bitter but more like someone who really knows him and maybe what an A-Hole he was back then.

Dont know how he treats them now but seem like Prince have made an effort to at least patch things up with members of THE TIME.

One thing I do admire, is how close the women from the Prince camp are. Jill & Apollonia, Apollonia and Sheila E. and so fourth.

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Reply #144 posted 05/20/11 4:06pm

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Shorty said:

I personally fucking LOVE your posts. Thank GOD for you! smile


Militant has some interesting and well thought out posts [img:$uid]http://www.shydtchat.com/forum/Smileys/default/iagree.gif[/img:$uid]

Thanks bro.

sosgemini - Chill. Nothing wrong with people expressing agreement. It isn't "masturbatory" at all. It's a natural and established method of communication. As if you've never agreed with something someone else wrote and expressed it. Many forums have a built-in method of doing so with a "rep" or a "Thanks" system, I'm sure you've been around the internet long enough to see that on different forums. Facebook's entire "Like" system is built on the same premise.

Just happens that we don't have an implementation on here for that, so people simply post that they agree. Which means more as it takes a little bit more effort than simply clicking a "Like" or a "Thanks" button.

We SHOULD be encouraging posts that we agree with or think are good in this way. That's how we all contribute to creating a better community.

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Reply #145 posted 05/20/11 4:08pm

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PurpleLove7 said:

Militant has some interesting and well thought out posts [img:$uid]http://www.shydtchat.com/forum/Smileys/default/iagree.gif[/img:$uid]

Thanks bro.

sosgemini - Chill. Nothing wrong with people expressing agreement. It isn't "masturbatory" at all. It's a natural and established method of communication. As if you've never agreed with something someone else wrote and expressed it. Many forums have a built-in method of doing so with a "rep" or a "Thanks" system, I'm sure you've been around the internet long enough to see that on different forums. Facebook's entire "Like" system is built on the same premise.

Just happens that we don't have an implementation on here for that, so people simply post that they agree. Which means more as it takes a little bit more effort than simply clicking a "Like" or a "Thanks" button.

We SHOULD be encouraging posts that we agree with or think are good in this way. That's how we all contribute to creating a better community.

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Reply #146 posted 05/20/11 4:10pm

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WTF?

Here was my comment: Less caffeine is advised. lol

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Reply #147 posted 05/20/11 5:38pm

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Seriously, will you people get the fuck over it and mind your own business. Let people discuss their own fucking lives, stop overanalyzing someone else's life. Focus on your own life.

you are kidding right!, she lit the fuse after all with a truly ill informed observation. She ain't dumb and knew what the reaction would be.

Of course she knew what the reaction would be. The thing that gets me if Prince was posting this type of on a FB page a lot of orgers would be calling him nuts but Jill is stable WTF

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Reply #148 posted 05/20/11 5:52pm

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Shorty said:

Spinlight said:

Seriously, will you people get the fuck over it and mind your own business. Let people discuss their own fucking lives, stop overanalyzing someone else's life. Focus on your own life.

falloff you're in here reading everyword but...we gotta mind our own bisiness. lol

step out bud...step out

No, you and your creepy crew that obsess over associated artists on Facebook are just ridiculous. Get a grip. It's beyond absurd to immerse yourself that deeply into Princeworld. You sit here and overanalyze the words of people whose lives you vicariously live through as if you have any say - or should have any say. Just because you have a right to free speech in the US doesn't mean you must use it at every possible turn.

Again, this bizarre douchebaggery only happens with a certain group of people here on the org and you all really need to reevaluate how much you deeply invest in the lives of other people.

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Reply #149 posted 05/20/11 7:38pm

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Now that Alan Leeds is speaking out as well on his FB, Im sure JILL JONES is speaking of what P is doing to THE FAMILY / FDELUXE..........I didnt think she is some bitter ex who has nothing else better to say but in fact she is still in touch with those she once associated with at Pailey Park and Warner Bros................................Jill knows more than any of will ever know.

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