wonder505 said:

ButterscotchPimp said:

CO-FING-SIGN.

and then just to add my little two cents unlike everyone here on the Org, Jill actually KNOWS THE MAN and has had a friendship/relationship with him. so, if you had a friend that regardless of their career was always working and didn't seem to take the time to do anything else, would YOU not be concerned for their happiness and well-being? what the fuck is so "insulting" about that?

calm down, Org-nuts.

I guess some people just don't buy that she's concerned for Prince's happiness and well-being, and is just a bitter old ex. Just like Manuela posted that "caring" fb status not too long ago shortly after she and Eric Benet got shut out that awards party. When I used to have myspace Jill JOnes had responded to a message I sent her questioning another negative comment she made about Prince on her page. It was a very negative and volatile comment about Prince, so it is just my opinion that anything she post is out of plain bitterness and unhappiness with her career, even if she may be right or has a point. That's just me. Do I care what she post no, does it offend, fuck no , but just as Prince has some issues I feel she does too. AGain, that's just me. I don't care for insulting comments calling her names, but we all have a right to offer an opinion. I find this "its okay to to trash Prince left and right but don't say nothing bad about any former associates policy funny with some people around here.

[Edited 5/19/11 6:29am]

I find the "let's defend our purple liege at all costs" policy not so funny and extremely sad around here. that's just me.

shes probably not even talking about prince.. geez

can a muthaf**ka breathe a bit

Shorty said:

ButterscotchPimp said:

CO-FING-SIGN.

and then just to add my little two cents unlike everyone here on the Org, Jill actually KNOWS THE MAN and has had a friendship/relationship with him. so, if you had a friend that regardless of their career was always working and didn't seem to take the time to do anything else, would YOU not be concerned for their happiness and well-being? what the fuck is so "insulting" about that?

calm down, Org-nuts.

yes I'd be concerned. Putting it on facebook is what's insulting about that. DER! do people even get that part?

if I had a "friend" that I was concerned about....I'd call them, or send them some flowers or a note....NOT put how I feel sad for them that they don't have happiness in their life on facebook.

[Edited 5/19/11 6:40am]

Again, as someone else already pointed out it's HER Facebook page. She can say whatever is on her mind on HER page. Assuming that her "friends" joined because they're interested in what SHE has to say not because they are fam stalkers. if you don't like what she has to say, then delete her and move on. i'm SURE she won't mind.

ButterscotchPimp said:

Shorty said:

yes I'd be concerned. Putting it on facebook is what's insulting about that. DER! do people even get that part?

if I had a "friend" that I was concerned about....I'd call them, or send them some flowers or a note....NOT put how I feel sad for them that they don't have happiness in their life on facebook.

[Edited 5/19/11 6:40am]

Again, as someone else already pointed out it's HER Facebook page. She can say whatever is on her mind on HER page. Assuming that her "friends" joined because they're interested in what SHE has to say not because they are fam stalkers. if you don't like what she has to say, then delete her and move on. i'm SURE she won't mind.

No fuckin' shit! Ofcourse she can say whatever she wants but so can everyone else in response.

if SHE doesn't like what people have to say she can unfriend too! DER! stupidest round and round argument ever.

ButterscotchPimp said:

wonder505 said:

I guess some people just don't buy that she's concerned for Prince's happiness and well-being, and is just a bitter old ex. Just like Manuela posted that "caring" fb status not too long ago shortly after she and Eric Benet got shut out that awards party. When I used to have myspace Jill JOnes had responded to a message I sent her questioning another negative comment she made about Prince on her page. It was a very negative and volatile comment about Prince, so it is just my opinion that anything she post is out of plain bitterness and unhappiness with her career, even if she may be right or has a point. That's just me. Do I care what she post no, does it offend, fuck no , but just as Prince has some issues I feel she does too. AGain, that's just me. I don't care for insulting comments calling her names, but we all have a right to offer an opinion. I find this "its okay to to trash Prince left and right but don't say nothing bad about any former associates policy funny with some people around here.

[Edited 5/19/11 6:29am]

I find the "let's defend our purple liege at all costs" policy not so funny and extremely sad around here. that's just me.

both sides are sad.

Shorty said:

ButterscotchPimp said:

Again, as someone else already pointed out it's HER Facebook page. She can say whatever is on her mind on HER page. Assuming that her "friends" joined because they're interested in what SHE has to say not because they are fam stalkers. if you don't like what she has to say, then delete her and move on. i'm SURE she won't mind.

No fuckin' shit! Ofcourse she can say whatever she wants but so can everyone else in response.

if SHE doesn't like what people have to say she can unfriend too! DER! stupidest round and round argument ever.

i really hope you don't talk like you write. "der...."

ButterscotchPimp said:

Shorty said:

No fuckin' shit! Ofcourse she can say whatever she wants but so can everyone else in response.

if SHE doesn't like what people have to say she can unfriend too! DER! stupidest round and round argument ever.

i really hope you don't talk like you write. "der...."

Shorty said:

ButterscotchPimp said:

i really hope you don't talk like you write. "der...."

why or you'll "feel sad for me"

lol not even a little.

ButterscotchPimp said:

Shorty said:

why or you'll "feel sad for me"

lol not even a little.

2elijah said:

babynoz said:

I'd gladly say it to her face is she came here but If I had to join FB to talk to her she can forget it.

Still kind of strange though, that she would post a comment like that, while knowing that some friend on her page could possibly pull that info off, and post it elsewhere, as evident on this thread.

[Edited 5/17/11 19:14pm]

I think most P-related artists know this very well and I also think that a LOT of the folk who friend P-related artists do so less because they're a true fan of theirs and mostly to watch their walls in hopes of comments like this (or any mention of him)...also to feel somehow "connected" to P.

[Edited 5/19/11 7:45am]

Here's the thing. Aside from the whole "it's her page, she can posts what she wants" argument... which I AGREE with, the comment itself is troubling, because by her own admission she hasn't spoken to Prince in a long time, and given that she recently accused him of physical abuse, that's hardly surprising. It's probably safe to say that she hasn't spoken to him in at least a decade, if not the entire 20 years since she left the camp.

So saying something like "it makes me sad that he has nothing else" is just unfair. Because she doesn't know. And them having been friends over 20 years ago is completely irrelevant to that fact. Listen, Prince plays shows like that, for those lengths because it's what he loves to do. You can see it in his face. If he didn't want to be doing it, he wouldn't. Pretty obvious.

Prince has a great band whom he has fun with, ALL over the world, he has friends like Sheila who he's known for the better part of 30 years, chances are he's romantically/sexually involved with somebody, whether it be Misty or somebody else, he does what he wants, he can be playing shows in California and then jet off to NYC on a whim to see Misty perform, he's donating a great deal of money to various charities which is a positive feeling no matter how you look at it, he can literally have his pick of any festival or event in the world who will all go OUT of their way to accomodate him as well as paying him a great deal of money, he can literally jam with both his musical idols (like Stevie) as well as new artists he's digging (like Janelle) whenever he wants....... so what exactly DOESN'T he have and what qualifies Jill to feel sorry for him? And the "maybe she knows something" or whatever argument holds no water because none of us are the same people we were even 5 years ago, let alone 20.

I like Jill. Always have. And I defend her right to say what she wants. But she knows damn well what she's doing when she makes comments like this. She knows P's fans are reading. And there's something about it that makes you instantly question the motivation of the comments. Nobody knows whether she's genuine with her concern but her. But the very fact that it's instantly questionable is troubling. It's like she's reaching to find a negative. But from my perspective, it seems to me that the positives in Prince's life are far, far outweighing any questionable negative. I think Prince is happier than he has been for a while.

^ Great post.

Militant said:

Here's the thing. Aside from the whole "it's her page, she can posts what she wants" argument... which I AGREE with, the comment itself is troubling, because by her own admission she hasn't spoken to Prince in a long time, and given that she recently accused him of physical abuse, that's hardly surprising. It's probably safe to say that she hasn't spoken to him in at least a decade, if not the entire 20 years since she left the camp.

So saying something like "it makes me sad that he has nothing else" is just unfair. Because she doesn't know. And them having been friends over 20 years ago is completely irrelevant to that fact. Listen, Prince plays shows like that, for those lengths because it's what he loves to do. You can see it in his face. If he didn't want to be doing it, he wouldn't. Pretty obvious.

Prince has a great band whom he has fun with, ALL over the world, he has friends like Sheila who he's known for the better part of 30 years, chances are he's romantically/sexually involved with somebody, whether it be Misty or somebody else, he does what he wants, he can be playing shows in California and then jet off to NYC on a whim to see Misty perform, he's donating a great deal of money to various charities which is a positive feeling no matter how you look at it, he can literally have his pick of any festival or event in the world who will all go OUT of their way to accomodate him as well as paying him a great deal of money, he can literally jam with both his musical idols (like Stevie) as well as new artists he's digging (like Janelle) whenever he wants....... so what exactly DOESN'T he have and what qualifies Jill to feel sorry for him? And the "maybe she knows something" or whatever argument holds no water because none of us are the same people we were even 5 years ago, let alone 20.

I like Jill. Always have. And I defend her right to say what she wants. But she knows damn well what she's doing when she makes comments like this. She knows P's fans are reading. And there's something about it that makes you instantly question the motivation of the comments. Nobody knows whether she's genuine with her concern but her. But the very fact that it's instantly questionable is troubling. It's like she's reaching to find a negative. But from my perspective, it seems to me that the positives in Prince's life are far, far outweighing any questionable negative. I think Prince is happier than he has been for a while.

Excellent post!!!! You pretty much sum up what I was feeling about it and I think you nailed it on the head. The whole comment seems bizarre to me and you’re right, she is reaching...question is why? What’s behind this really?

lavender1983 said:

^ Great post.

Ditto. I agree with you 100% Militant. And like someone else already said, friends don't talk about their friends' issues on FB (unless you're 12 and she's at least 50). So let's be real. She is well aware who her "message" is reaching. I don't know why she is making such comments--be it bitterness over her career, still holding a torch romantically, etc....I don't know. But given what she said and the way she said it, her motives can't be that innocent.

Others should really think consider whether you would want your "friends" sending a negative message about you to thousands of people on FB.

Why people assumed you are a Prince fanbot because you are criticize one of his associates opinion. I have some love for both Prince and Jill but neither are above criticism.

Yes Jill has the right to express her opinion but her opinions will also get challenge when she posted them on a public forum.

I also think she got some issues of her own but I dont know what they are since I dont know her that well. But I wish her and Prince associates would tell us their history and stop being afraid of Prince he isnt God or is he to them? I want to see one of them stand up for him for a change. If Prince sued them so be it and tell your side and make noise to the media. One thing Prince hates is bad publicity. He might back away if one or two associates takes a stand but that wont happen as long as associates allow Prince having that much control in their lives. I think Prince backaway too with the Youtube lawsuit if I am not mistaken when the judge ruled against him when that lady had her baby dance one of his songs.

Then many people who are big Prince fans will likely have the back of the associates. But how can us Prince fans support the associates when they are afraid to tell their history good or bad?

thepope2the9s said:

J.J, is at it again, with a recent post on her FB page about P.

Here are the quotes:

"He won't stop playing and it makes me so sad that he has nothing else, no one is in his life that mean enough for him to take off the dancing shoes and just come home. In life there must be balance"

she later adds...."Doing a three hour show to then do another several hours afterwards at a party-- then more hours at the house... Are u really for real? That's happy?"

Sounds to me like she has a real concern for him.

PurpleChi said:

Another thought. Somebody maybe noted this already, but she (nor anyone else) has the right to judge what makes another person happy. If playing 10 hours non-stop would not satisfy her expectations of life, fine. But if it satisfies Prince, fine. We have to give people the space to be who they are, and let God deal with them on their values. We just can't assume that one person's value system is superior to another's.

BlaqueKnight said:

Bottom line: Its HER facebook page. That's like her little apartment on the web. She can say what she wants. If people don't like what she has to say, they can "un-friend" her or whatever. If all of the Prince fanbots leave and she's left with only people who are interested in what she is doing, then its better for her. Right? Of course.

Militant said:

Here's the thing. Aside from the whole "it's her page, she can posts what she wants" argument... which I AGREE with, the comment itself is troubling, because by her own admission she hasn't spoken to Prince in a long time, and given that she recently accused him of physical abuse, that's hardly surprising. It's probably safe to say that she hasn't spoken to him in at least a decade, if not the entire 20 years since she left the camp.

So saying something like "it makes me sad that he has nothing else" is just unfair. Because she doesn't know. And them having been friends over 20 years ago is completely irrelevant to that fact. Listen, Prince plays shows like that, for those lengths because it's what he loves to do. You can see it in his face. If he didn't want to be doing it, he wouldn't. Pretty obvious.

Prince has a great band whom he has fun with, ALL over the world, he has friends like Sheila who he's known for the better part of 30 years, chances are he's romantically/sexually involved with somebody, whether it be Misty or somebody else, he does what he wants, he can be playing shows in California and then jet off to NYC on a whim to see Misty perform, he's donating a great deal of money to various charities which is a positive feeling no matter how you look at it, he can literally have his pick of any festival or event in the world who will all go OUT of their way to accomodate him as well as paying him a great deal of money, he can literally jam with both his musical idols (like Stevie) as well as new artists he's digging (like Janelle) whenever he wants....... so what exactly DOESN'T he have and what qualifies Jill to feel sorry for him? And the "maybe she knows something" or whatever argument holds no water because none of us are the same people we were even 5 years ago, let alone 20.

I like Jill. Always have. And I defend her right to say what she wants. But she knows damn well what she's doing when she makes comments like this. She knows P's fans are reading. And there's something about it that makes you instantly question the motivation of the comments. Nobody knows whether she's genuine with her concern but her. But the very fact that it's instantly questionable is troubling. It's like she's reaching to find a negative. But from my perspective, it seems to me that the positives in Prince's life are far, far outweighing any questionable negative. I think Prince is happier than he has been for a while.

Again, though - Why does it garner this much psychoanalysis? I think this is a great post and one of the few of yours that I genuinely 100% agree with. However, as adults, we should be able to take note of when we're being immature and this thread is an example of that.

It is not our business to judge her words. And if it IS our business, then I don't wanna hear anyone up in this thread getting hyphy because they, in turn, get judged. Where do you draw the line? Can't it just be left the hell alone? lol. Seriously, she fucked the dude for 10 years and logged countless hours in the studio and on the road with him. Can we not have some respect? She knows what she is talking about more than anyone in this thread.

Why is it troubling? Troubling that someone has an opinion? Troubling that clearly the comments were taken out of context and she was responding to someone who asked her opinion? Read the first thing she said - she was PROMPTED to say that. The context and conjugation and grammar doesn't work unless there was a reciprocal initiator.

RubyButterfly said:

p4life said:

she's just a bitter old bitch ! i wish she would shut the FUCK up! she's just jealous she has nothing going on for her ..that bitch wish she was onstage performaning @ the forum ..prince plays music because that's what brings him joy it's not work to him it's all big party ..and you see that at his shows when he's smiling an laughing in his joking mood ...doing long hr concerts w/ an following aftershow is nothing new prince been doing this for years so shut the hell up you ugly old wrinkled bitch!!!!!!!!!

Yep. Jill definitely should take a lesson from you on How To Stay Classy on the Internet.

p4life is calling the cattle black

dJJ said:

RubyButterfly said:

Yep. Jill definitely should take a lesson from you on How To Stay Classy on the Internet.

p4life is calling the cattle black

PL7 holds his point of view and judgements until somethin' concrete is expressed ...

Shorty said:

dJJ said:

p4life is calling the cattle kettle black

Kettle....it's Kettle

thanks

Damn girl get over it and go get a man and get some. There are other colors in the rainbow than purple.

Militant said:

Here's the thing. Aside from the whole "it's her page, she can posts what she wants" argument... which I AGREE with, the comment itself is troubling, because by her own admission she hasn't spoken to Prince in a long time, and given that she recently accused him of physical abuse, that's hardly surprising. It's probably safe to say that she hasn't spoken to him in at least a decade, if not the entire 20 years since she left the camp.

So saying something like "it makes me sad that he has nothing else" is just unfair. Because she doesn't know. And them having been friends over 20 years ago is completely irrelevant to that fact. Listen, Prince plays shows like that, for those lengths because it's what he loves to do. You can see it in his face. If he didn't want to be doing it, he wouldn't. Pretty obvious.

Prince has a great band whom he has fun with, ALL over the world, he has friends like Sheila who he's known for the better part of 30 years, chances are he's romantically/sexually involved with somebody, whether it be Misty or somebody else, he does what he wants, he can be playing shows in California and then jet off to NYC on a whim to see Misty perform, he's donating a great deal of money to various charities which is a positive feeling no matter how you look at it, he can literally have his pick of any festival or event in the world who will all go OUT of their way to accomodate him as well as paying him a great deal of money, he can literally jam with both his musical idols (like Stevie) as well as new artists he's digging (like Janelle) whenever he wants....... so what exactly DOESN'T he have and what qualifies Jill to feel sorry for him? And the "maybe she knows something" or whatever argument holds no water because none of us are the same people we were even 5 years ago, let alone 20.

I like Jill. Always have. And I defend her right to say what she wants. But she knows damn well what she's doing when she makes comments like this. She knows P's fans are reading. And there's something about it that makes you instantly question the motivation of the comments. Nobody knows whether she's genuine with her concern but her. But the very fact that it's instantly questionable is troubling. It's like she's reaching to find a negative. But from my perspective, it seems to me that the positives in Prince's life are far, far outweighing any questionable negative. I think Prince is happier than he has been for a while.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You don't know what she knows. You don't know what her intentions were.

She left one line and org wackjobs went to pieces. What does that say? It says that at the end of it all, everybody who is fanatical will be fanatical regardless of what is said. So what if she was trying to stir up shit? Why is it "troubling?" Prince made it very difficult for people associated with him to get any credit or respect because he took claim of it all early on. Its not surprizing that she might be a bit resentful if she feels she was slighted by him or if she feels or knows that he has been blocking her career moves. Matthew Knowles is proof of how easily someone in the position can do that.

I'm not on her facebook page. I don't know what she puts on her wall or whatever. I do know that fanbots go absolutely batshit crazy whenever she or Mani or any of Prince's past lovers say anything. It is instantly turned into a negative and they are tongue-lashed to hell for it.

That signifies idolworship and it says more about the nutty fans than it does about them.

Dont think this is thread worthy, but i'll give my

What business is it of hers or anyone rather P is happy with his hectic schedule/life? i know that might sound ridiculous, being most of us want P to be happy, but is it necessary to go on FB about it? Answer hxll naw!!! this is a cry 4 attention

She's gotten some of our attention, but P's not in this lifetime or the next

BlaqueKnight said:

Militant said:

Here's the thing. Aside from the whole "it's her page, she can posts what she wants" argument... which I AGREE with, the comment itself is troubling, because by her own admission she hasn't spoken to Prince in a long time, and given that she recently accused him of physical abuse, that's hardly surprising. It's probably safe to say that she hasn't spoken to him in at least a decade, if not the entire 20 years since she left the camp.

So saying something like "it makes me sad that he has nothing else" is just unfair. Because she doesn't know. And them having been friends over 20 years ago is completely irrelevant to that fact. Listen, Prince plays shows like that, for those lengths because it's what he loves to do. You can see it in his face. If he didn't want to be doing it, he wouldn't. Pretty obvious.

Prince has a great band whom he has fun with, ALL over the world, he has friends like Sheila who he's known for the better part of 30 years, chances are he's romantically/sexually involved with somebody, whether it be Misty or somebody else, he does what he wants, he can be playing shows in California and then jet off to NYC on a whim to see Misty perform, he's donating a great deal of money to various charities which is a positive feeling no matter how you look at it, he can literally have his pick of any festival or event in the world who will all go OUT of their way to accomodate him as well as paying him a great deal of money, he can literally jam with both his musical idols (like Stevie) as well as new artists he's digging (like Janelle) whenever he wants....... so what exactly DOESN'T he have and what qualifies Jill to feel sorry for him? And the "maybe she knows something" or whatever argument holds no water because none of us are the same people we were even 5 years ago, let alone 20.

I like Jill. Always have. And I defend her right to say what she wants. But she knows damn well what she's doing when she makes comments like this. She knows P's fans are reading. And there's something about it that makes you instantly question the motivation of the comments. Nobody knows whether she's genuine with her concern but her. But the very fact that it's instantly questionable is troubling. It's like she's reaching to find a negative. But from my perspective, it seems to me that the positives in Prince's life are far, far outweighing any questionable negative. I think Prince is happier than he has been for a while.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You don't know what she knows. You don't know what her intentions were.

She left one line and org wackjobs went to pieces. What does that say? It says that at the end of it all, everybody who is fanatical will be fanatical regardless of what is said. So what if she was trying to stir up shit? Why is it "troubling?" Prince made it very difficult for people associated with him to get any credit or respect because he took claim of it all early on. Its not surprizing that she might be a bit resentful if she feels she was slighted by him or if she feels or knows that he has been blocking her career moves. Matthew Knowles is proof of how easily someone in the position can do that.

I'm not on her facebook page. I don't know what she puts on her wall or whatever. I do know that fanbots go absolutely batshit crazy whenever she or Mani or any of Prince's past lovers say anything. It is instantly turned into a negative and they are tongue-lashed to hell for it.

That signifies idolworship and it says more about the nutty fans than it does about them.

Who is going crazy? What's with all this name calling? So since we're judging people who offer an opinion, then I guess alot very jealous naysayers and haters get upset when people either defend Prince or take an opposing opinion to someone who tries to knock Prince. Is that the new rule on the Org, People can't have an opinion when it comes to associated artists? So they're hands off now? Everyday people talk trash about Prince and I never see you say anything about it, but the minute anyone says anything about an associated artists then you swoop with these comments. We can't "tongue-lash" Jill Jones or Mani or but we can "tongue-lash" Prince everyday.

She has every right to stir shit up as you say, she has a right to say what she wants, but in my opinion, she needs to move on. She looks stupid talking about how her ex spends his time, wtf does she care, does she not have anything better to do? shouldn't she be busy making music or something, that's just an OPINION, nothing more. she should sue him for what he did to her, jeez at this point I wish she would, or seek counseling. If people were trashing Prince in her defense you sure as heck will not have a problem with it because I never see you say anything about it. She posted a comment on a public website, people are going to have an opinion. Now the ones calling her names, that's just stupid. Now if you want to debate her comment and take her side then fine, but to imply that people who offer an opinion is all these names you be calling out, that's stupid, especially on a discussion board. Militant made excellent points and everyone here has a right to discuss a PUBLIC comment.

[Edited 5/20/11 6:07am]

Maybe ( just maybe ) JILL knows something non of us knows......Just because she have'nt spoken to Prince in years , does'nt mean that they don't keep in touch with the same people. Seems like her concern is real. Who Knows !!!!

I think she gets a bad rap because she is so vocal about some of the things she went through with him that non of us knows.......

by the way guys, I'm new hear, but was a former poster at Housequake, but I see not much have changed with all the beefing with each other, but nevertheless, glad to be back and catch up on all the Princely stories, music, etc.