BlaqueKnight said:

The Bar-kays lost most of their members in a plane crash yet, they went on to make many more records despite that loss. Larry Blackman used to be the drummer for Cameo and not the lead singer. COUNTLESS numbers of groups have gone on without original members. Yet, people are supposed to believe that without Prince, the Time doesn't have the ability to make records? Yeah, right. That's beyond ignorant, especially in this day and age of music where artists change producers like they change clothes. You put Morris Day's voice on a record and as long as it has elements of a Time record, its going to sound like the Time. You die-hards may not accept it (and that is your choice to or not to) but that doesn't make it any less just because you say so. This whole "it ain't The Time without Prince" argument isn't holding any water whatsoever. Different? Yes. No longer the Time? No. Its only people who are trying to preserve the illusion that was created in the 80s that can't accept change. A Time record without Prince will still be a Time record, especially if its made by the musicians that have dedicated so much of their musical careers to the group. People are way too fickle these days. If they make a good record, how many of you won't get it because Prince didn't write it? Nevermind. Don't even bother answering that.

where's is the Time album and what have taken them so long....then?... I have no doubt they can drop a kickass album, believe me I'm waiting, I believe in their true talents, but they have not. So I'm not sure what why you feel people are being ignorant when there is nothing to back up your claims either. Everyone has their own opinion just like you have yours but with not knowing the facts as to what the problem is its all guessing on both parts.

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SoulAlive said:

OK,that's it.I've had enough of rumors,speculation and gossip!! Let's get one of the Time members on this message board to set the record straight!!

Does anyone know how we can reach one of them? Are they on Facebook? Myspace? Let's organize a Q&A session with a member of the Time.

This is insane.Let's get to the truth,once and for all!

I like this idea.

psychodelicide said:

SoulAlive said:

OK,that's it.I've had enough of rumors,speculation and gossip!! Let's get one of the Time members on this message board to set the record straight!!

Does anyone know how we can reach one of them? Are they on Facebook? Myspace? Let's organize a Q&A session with a member of the Time.

This is insane.Let's get to the truth,once and for all!

I like this idea.

Too bad they didn't sell any merchandise and have a signing session when I saw them in January. 'Cause I sure would've asked why they haven't dropped a new album yet!

BlaqueKnight said:

The Bar-kays lost most of their members in a plane crash yet, they went on to make many more records despite that loss. Larry Blackman used to be the drummer for Cameo and not the lead singer. COUNTLESS numbers of groups have gone on without original members. Yet, people are supposed to believe that without Prince, the Time doesn't have the ability to make records? Yeah, right. That's beyond ignorant, especially in this day and age of music where artists change producers like they change clothes. You put Morris Day's voice on a record and as long as it has elements of a Time record, its going to sound like the Time. You die-hards may not accept it (and that is your choice to or not to) but that doesn't make it any less just because you say so. This whole "it ain't The Time without Prince" argument isn't holding any water whatsoever. Different? Yes. No longer the Time? No. Its only people who are trying to preserve the illusion that was created in the 80s that can't accept change. A Time record without Prince will still be a Time record, especially if its made by the musicians that have dedicated so much of their musical careers to the group. People are way too fickle these days. If they make a good record, how many of you won't get it because Prince didn't write it? Nevermind. Don't even bother answering that.

C'mon.

Prince can't even make a decent Prince album today.

No one is saying the the men "CAN'T" make a Time album, people are just skeptical they can make a decent Time album with or without Prince.

And regardless, good or bad or in between, everyone here on the org will buy whatever they release anyhow, the question is moot. We are "IN" no matter what it sounds like, no matter the name. It's the rest of the world outside Prince.org that matters at this point. Whether the name means that much in regards to marketing outside the hardcore fans is debatable, but the album will stand or fail on it's own regardless of name. If they have an album ready they just need to release the thing already.

purplethunder3121 said:

psychodelicide said:

I like this idea.

Too bad they didn't sell any merchandise and have a signing session when I saw them in January. 'Cause I sure would've asked why they haven't dropped a new album yet!

I probably would ask them the same thing.

Militant said:

PurpleDiamond2009 said:

To be honest, I always thought that The Time was better than Prince.

How can they be "better than Prince" when Prince single-handedly produced and wrote 90% of their catalog?

I love The Time, but let's be real.

Listen up. If Prince has NO involvement with The Time's new album, then A) It ain't really a Time album, and B) they need to kiss some purple ass because he DOES own the name and is perfectly entitled to stop them from using it.

If they want to release the music and Prince ain't co-operating, then they'll change the name, like The Family/F-Deluxe did. We can speculate all day long as to why Prince ain't co-operating (if this is indeed the case), but at the end of the day, we don't KNOW why, and when it boils down to it - this is business, and Prince is perfectly entitled to protect his legal belongings if he chooses to.

Prince was working with The Time on the "Old Dogs, New Tricks" album as recently as a decade ago. I can't imagine a whole lot has changed in that timeframe. But peep this - Prince is not scared of The Time. What does he have to be scared of? The Time aren't going to sell out Madison Square Garden any time soon.

If anyone can provide one good, solid, reason that Prince should be "scared" of The Time, I'm down to accept this as a theory. But there isn't one.

Morris shouldn't have left back in '85, Jimmy and Terry shouldn't have been defiant back in '85. They knew Prince was buttering they bread back then, but they wanted to cash in on Purple Rain. God bless them for trying, but the price they paid is that they pissed Prince off and now they want to release an album and they bitchin about it? Girl I hate to say this.... Nigga pleeeeease!

Go off on your own, Morris. Just like u did in '85. Remaster "Fishnet" or "Color of Success"-- it was good enough for u back then, why isn't good enough 4 u now? Jimmy , Terry, call Janet and ask her if she's down to make "Control 2". I mean what is the big fucking deal about releasing an album with "The Time" on the cover. Don't nobody give a shit about that anymore. Release it under the name, Morris Day and the Oak Tree. That'll sell records. Unless Prince owns the name Morris Day.

ONe too many merlots. I shouldn't be this worked up about a bunch of 50 year old black men releasing an album.

I don't understand why we are talking about a new "The Time" Album, there will be no NEW ALBUM , unofficially words from some members of the group seem to confirm this FACT!!

love2thenines2003 said:

I don't understand why we are talking about a new "The Time" Album, there will be no NEW ALBUM , unofficially words from some members of the group seem to confirm this FACT!!

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

love2thenines2003 said:

I don't understand why we are talking about a new "The Time" Album, there will be no NEW ALBUM , unofficially words from some members of the group seem to confirm this FACT!!

Can you do us a favor.....if you know any of the guys personally,could you invite them to come to this thread and clear up a few things? I'm tired of "unofficial comments",rumors and hearsay.If what you say is true,let's hear it from the horse's mouth.

Spanky said:

So,you're saying that Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis should have just kept quiet,continued to hide their real talents (writing and producing) and not follow their own dreams? Being "defiant" allowed them to become the hottest production duo of the 80s/90s.

SoulAlive said:

love2thenines2003 said:

I don't understand why we are talking about a new "The Time" Album, there will be no NEW ALBUM , unofficially words from some members of the group seem to confirm this FACT!!

Can you do us a favor.....if you know any of the guys personally,could you invite them to come to this thread and clear up a few things? I'm tired of "unofficial comments",rumors and hearsay.If what you say is true,let's hear it from the horse's mouth.

I've made the invitation...............but no response so far.

SoulAlive said:

Spanky said:

Morris shouldn't have left back in '85, Jimmy and Terry shouldn't have been defiant back in '85. They knew Prince was buttering they bread back then, but they wanted to cash in on Purple Rain.

So,you're saying that Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis should have just kept quiet,continued to hide their real talents (writing and producing) and not follow their own dreams? Being "defiant" allowed them to become the hottest production duo of the 80s/90s.

I mean that they didn't do it in the right way. From what I understand they skipped out on a tour to work with Janet. They should have finished and then took some, er, "time" off to work on solo projects. People in bands do it all the time. But imagine booking a tour with a band and two members skip out mid tour. That's not professional.

Spanky said:

SoulAlive said:

Spanky said:

So,you're saying that Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis should have just kept quiet,continued to hide their real talents (writing and producing) and not follow their own dreams? Being "defiant" allowed them to become the hottest production duo of the 80s/90s.

I mean that they didn't do it in the right way. From what I understand they skipped out on a tour to work with Janet. They should have finished and then took some, er, "time" off to work on solo projects. People in bands do it all the time. But imagine booking a tour with a band and two members skip out mid tour. That's not professional.

No,what happened was.....during the '1999' tour,they took a few days off to work with the SOS Band in Atlanta.They got snowed in and had to miss a gig.Prince fired them.To me,that was an overreaction.It's clear that Prince simply didn't want them to do their own thing.

SoulAlive said:

Spanky said:

I mean that they didn't do it in the right way. From what I understand they skipped out on a tour to work with Janet. They should have finished and then took some, er, "time" off to work on solo projects. People in bands do it all the time. But imagine booking a tour with a band and two members skip out mid tour. That's not professional.

No,what happened was.....during the '1999' tour,they took a few days off to work with the SOS Band in Atlanta.They got snowed in and had to miss a gig.Prince fired them.To me,that was an overreaction.It's clear that Prince simply didn't want them to do their own thing.

Call it fate, that was the best firing in music history based on what it led to.

wonder505 said:

SoulAlive said:

No,what happened was.....during the '1999' tour,they took a few days off to work with the SOS Band in Atlanta.They got snowed in and had to miss a gig.Prince fired them.To me,that was an overreaction.It's clear that Prince simply didn't want them to do their own thing.

Call it fate, that was the best firing in music history based on what it led to.

wonder505 said:

SoulAlive said:

No,what happened was.....during the '1999' tour,they took a few days off to work with the SOS Band in Atlanta.They got snowed in and had to miss a gig.Prince fired them.To me,that was an overreaction.It's clear that Prince simply didn't want them to do their own thing.

Call it fate, that was the best firing in music history based on what it led to.

I don't blame Jam & Lewis one bit for moonlighting. They had released two Time albums already on which they didn't play a note. They were being stifled.

I wonder if they had made the show and not been fired, would The Time still have broken up in 1984?

The Time was never really a real band on record. Prince did mostly everything. The Time never really even reached there full potential as a band. Because when Purple Rain was released there name became worldwide known. But the band was already broken up when the movie came out & didn't really have the real true original members in it anyway.To think how big they could have became if they were apart of The Purple Rain tour.

I can understand Prince's hesitation. Morris Day threw Prince under the bus many times after he left The Time. Jesse johnson said some horrible things about him to.Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis was working on projects behind his back while in the group.

This is Prince legacy. i can tell he is now wanting credit for what he created & started. Prince was the sole creator of the whole project and will soon own all the masters of The Time. They are really his albums anyway. the only thing I can see them doing is change the name. Morris Day & The Time would not be a good name because it would down play the success of the other members who are way more talented in there own right. I think the key in everything Prince is waiting to get full control over all the masters before he greenlights anything with The Family or The Time so he can profit from it solely. Its his music and he deserves to do wIth it what he wants. I don't blame him.

When I saw The Time(The original ones) perform live in Vegas a few years ago. It was mind boggling watching how much talent was in that gruop. it was just too much talent to keep clammed up in one group. U can't argue with destiny. To me it all worked out for them individually. There would be no Janet Jackson without JJ &TL. Jesse Johnson & Morris Day had major success to on there own and they owe Prince for that whether they want to admit it or not..

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1)They were FLYTE TYME before Prince

2)They were THE SECRET after they left the Purple Kingdom (see the credits of Alexander O'Neal's 1st LP)

3)The BEST Prince songs on PANDEMONIUM were "Jerk Out" and "Chocolate"...all that other stuff he put on there was BS!!!!!

It can be done......just have Suge have a "talk" w/Prince!!!!! LOL!!!!!

I'VE GOT IT!!!!!!!!!

They can call themselves "TAFKATT"

(The Artists Formerly Known As The Time)

"Now What Time Is It??"

(Morris Day in Graffiti Bridge)