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There's some hoes in this house; there's some hoes in this house...

BlaqueKnight said:

There's some hoes in this house; there's some hoes in this house...

Why folks gotta be hoes? Why can't you call them adventurous?

I always kind of admired the story. Yes, Mayte mother took a video of her daughter to a prince concert in Germany; Mayte was stationed there @ the time and Mayte attended a dance school there in Weisbaden. I was told that before this paricular show Prince seen Mayte and told the Game Boyz; Tony, Damon, and Kirk, that is a my future wife. Coincidencly later that evening after the concert, that is when Mayte's mother would hand a tape to the Game Boyz. Low and behold, Prince would then see the girl he had admired earlier and took it as Fate. Leading to the marriage program to behold the words: "Coincidence or Fate?" I am good friends with one of Game Boyz and we had a discussion about this situation one day.

Back to the intial question, Mayte was almost 17 at the time and It would have been a hard call, however if she wanted to dance professional then this would have been the move. From my understanding, she did. From a mother stand point, hard call as well however I think I would have been a little protective. Yet, as someone said earlier in her culture it is acceptable. My mother is hispanic and from Mexico. My father traveled with the Ohio Players when he met my mother at the sweet age of 18 ...he was 32. He courted my mother for one year and keep in contact with her through letters as well. By 19, she was married, and by 20, they had their first child.

Some people who say they knew Mayte in Germany claim her mother would often introduce her to wealthy older men to help fund her career and that basically the whole dancing/singing thing was her mothers dream that she encouraged Mayte to do since it wasn't gonna happen for her. If that was the case then it sounds like she was groomed for that life and and so an opportunity to work away from home would be no big thing, and obviously her fam are gonna make sure her secruity/well being would be taken care of before hand, plus age is just a number, i have a 43 yr old aunt who doesn't wanna move out of her parents, and at 18 i moved out of my moms to live with my boyfriend. You'd be surprised at how independant 16/17 yrs can be.

Essayvee said:

Some people who say they knew Mayte in Germany claim her mother would often introduce her to wealthy older men to help fund her career and that basically the whole dancing/singing thing was her mothers dream that she encouraged Mayte to do since it wasn't gonna happen for her. If that was the case then it sounds like she was groomed for that life and and so an opportunity to work away from home would be no big thing, and obviously her fam are gonna make sure her secruity/well being would be taken care of before hand, plus age is just a number, i have a 43 yr old aunt who doesn't wanna move out of her parents, and at 18 i moved out of my moms to live with my boyfriend. You'd be surprised at how independant 16/17 yrs can be.

I don't know why but I always think of Brooke Shields and her story when I hear these type of things. What was the name of that movie she was in and she was in a hore house and the pranced her around the table on a platter for the highest bidder , since she was a virgin? None the less, to each his own.

Your right age is nothing but a #, I know some 40 somethings that act like their 20 something and vice versa;)

NormaRae said:

Essayvee said:

Some people who say they knew Mayte in Germany claim her mother would often introduce her to wealthy older men to help fund her career and that basically the whole dancing/singing thing was her mothers dream that she encouraged Mayte to do since it wasn't gonna happen for her. If that was the case then it sounds like she was groomed for that life and and so an opportunity to work away from home would be no big thing, and obviously her fam are gonna make sure her secruity/well being would be taken care of before hand, plus age is just a number, i have a 43 yr old aunt who doesn't wanna move out of her parents, and at 18 i moved out of my moms to live with my boyfriend. You'd be surprised at how independant 16/17 yrs can be.

I don't know why but I always think of Brooke Shields and her story when I hear these type of things. What was the name of that movie she was in and she was in a hore house and the pranced her around the table on a platter for the highest bidder , since she was a virgin? None the less, to each his own.

Your right age is nothing but a #, I know some 40 somethings that act like their 20 something and vice versa;)

Pretty Baby

amberella said:

paintedlady said:

I disgaree... Mayte handled him enough to get Prince to fall in love and marry HER, despite Prince being surrounded by many beautiful women that wanted to be Mrs. Nelson.

Ask Nona, Cat, Carmen, ...

anywho, even at her young age, Mayte was well traveled and came out of her heartache in a good way. She doesn't come off bitter at all and even befriended the same woman rumored to be her husband's mistress.

People do not understand that Mayte is Puerto Rican and in her culture, what she did at her age was no biggie. Jennifer Lopez was out and doing thangs at that age as well, gotta do what you have to do in order to make it in the biz. Mayte took her chance and fell in love, thankfully she walked away sane and happy. Good for her.

So it was a Puerto-Rican thing......

It always seemed that Mayte took after westernized ways of thinking and not the Latina way of thinking, then again her PARENTS allowed her to be with Prince as she had/has.

PurpleLove7 said:

amberella said:

So it was a Puerto-Rican thing......

It always seemed that Mayte took after westernized ways of thinking and not the Latina way of thinking, then again her PARENTS allowed her to be with Prince as she had/has.

The Puerto Rican culture is a blended one, much like America is as a whole. Puerto Ricans have a canny knack for adopting all kinds of traditions from different cultures around them. They are versatile in that way. Look at the way PR people cook... our diet the the most expansive diet of all westerners. (We fuck up lots of dishes that way too... thinking we can taste shit and cook it by memory, like lasagne)

Also the damn music! Salsa was birthed from the R&B and big band sounds of the 50's in NYC and hit Puerto Rico HARD (via Fania Records Co. if memory serves correct) , now PR identifies salsa as its music. And no, it isn't "Cuban" music... just because Wille Colon and Celia were Cuban, they didn't invent it.... Hector Lavoe had a more key role because of his style of singing.

But all were badass, and I thank God for the Cubans in America at the time

sorry I tend to go off track sometimes.

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paintedlady said:

PurpleLove7 said:

It always seemed that Mayte took after westernized ways of thinking and not the Latina way of thinking, then again her PARENTS allowed her to be with Prince as she had/has.

The Puerto Rican culture is a blended one, much like America is as a whole. Puerto Ricans have a canny knack for adopting all kinds of traditions from different cultures around them. They are versatile in that way. Look at the way PR people cook... our diet the the most expansive diet of all westerners. (We fuck up lots of dishes that way too... thinking we can taste shit and cook it by memory, like lasagne)

Also the damn music! Salsa was birthed from the R&B and big band sounds of the 50's in NYC and hit Puerto Rico HARD (via Fania Records Co. if memory serves correct) , now PR identifies salsa as its music. And no, it isn't "Cuban" music... just because Wille Colon and Celia were Cuban, they didn't invent it.... Hector Lavoe had a more key role because of his style of singing.

But all were badass, and I thank God for the Cubans in America at the time

sorry I tend to go off track sometimes.

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Oh so knowledgeable one...

amberella said:

paintedlady said:

The Puerto Rican culture is a blended one, much like America is as a whole. Puerto Ricans have a canny knack for adopting all kinds of traditions from different cultures around them. They are versatile in that way. Look at the way PR people cook... our diet the the most expansive diet of all westerners. (We fuck up lots of dishes that way too... thinking we can taste shit and cook it by memory, like lasagne)

Also the damn music! Salsa was birthed from the R&B and big band sounds of the 50's in NYC and hit Puerto Rico HARD (via Fania Records Co. if memory serves correct) , now PR identifies salsa as its music. And no, it isn't "Cuban" music... just because Wille Colon and Celia were Cuban, they didn't invent it.... Hector Lavoe had a more key role because of his style of singing.

But all were badass, and I thank God for the Cubans in America at the time

sorry I tend to go off track sometimes.

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Oh so knowledgeable one...

TY, but it isn't all that since I'm a Rican myself. My mom would cut me if I didn't learn a thing or two about my peeps.

and yeah, reading on more about Mayte's history... Mayte's mom seems to share the mentality of those pagent mom's that dress their babies up.

amberella said:

NormaRae said:

I don't know why but I always think of Brooke Shields and her story when I hear these type of things. What was the name of that movie she was in and she was in a hore house and the pranced her around the table on a platter for the highest bidder , since she was a virgin? None the less, to each his own.

Your right age is nothing but a #, I know some 40 somethings that act like their 20 something and vice versa;)

Pretty Baby

Thank U Amberella;-) Brooke's mother had her out there at a young age as well. U remember that photo shoot she did for Vogue or was it Playboy...which was kind of controversial?

Age ain't nothing but a number is shit pedophiles say.

BlaqueKnight said:

Age ain't nothing but a number is shit pedophiles say.

There are a lot of mature kids out there, but messing with a prepubescent is just sick!

BlaqueKnight said:

Age ain't nothing but a number is shit pedophiles say.

you heard of R. Kelly?

and for the record... I don't put Mayte and Prince's association in the same catergory as R. Kelly's association with teens.

paintedlady said:

DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

Yeah, for Prince I would have!! My mom may not have allowed it though...hell, I'm almost guaranteed she wouldn't have allowed it. I think her parents should be ashamed for allowing such nonsense. I guess money will make people do anything. But if it were my decision, I would have. I graduated and left home at 16 anyway. So to go and work for Prince and be his muse, I would do it in a NY minute!! But I think you are smart for not entertaining the idea, it can get you in alot of trouble, as it did Mayte, she wasn't ready for what a man like Prince needed. Seeing as how it was more than just work...

I disgaree... Mayte handled him enough to get Prince to fall in love and marry HER, despite Prince being surrounded by many beautiful women that wanted to be Mrs. Nelson.

Ask Nona, Cat, Carmen, ...

anywho, even at her young age, Mayte was well traveled and came out of her heartache in a good way. She doesn't come off bitter at all and even befriended the same woman rumored to be her husband's mistress.

People do not understand that Mayte is Puerto Rican and in her culture, what she did at her age was no biggie. Jennifer Lopez was out and doing thangs at that age as well, gotta do what you have to do in order to make it in the biz. Mayte took her chance and fell in love, thankfully she walked away sane and happy. Good for her.

Despite coming out of it sane and happy...it didn't work out, mainly because she wasn't ready for what Prince was ready for. Puerto Rican girls that get involved early like she did, often end up just like Mayte, in their late 30s and alone.....she jumped into a relationship too quickly and didn't have a clue what it was all about. I suspect, she is still suffering from it now though. She has yet to really move on...no new hubby, no kids, etc. despite saying that's what she wanted. And I think Prince falling in love with her had little to do with anything she did, and was all about his idea of the situation..

prodigalfan said:

BlaqueKnight said:

Age ain't nothing but a number is shit pedophiles say.

you heard of R. Kelly?

and for the record... I don't put Mayte and Prince's association in the same catergory as R. Kelly's association with teens.

Why because its Prince?

paintedlady said:

amberella said:

Oh so knowledgeable one...

TY, but it isn't all that since I'm a Rican myself. My mom would cut me if I didn't learn a thing or two about my peeps.

and yeah, reading on more about Mayte's history... Mayte's mom seems to share the mentality of those pagent mom's that dress their babies up.

Her mom definately seemed like the pagent kind. But dressing up a 5yr old is remarkably different than a 16-17yr old. A 16-17yr old...who is almost an adult, is quite capable of making her own decisions. I think the idea of dancing for and romancing a star like Prince was very sweet sounding to a young girl with fame asparations. And once you see you have him where you want him...then its all fair game! However, sometimes that game backfires on you though..

prodigalfan said:

BlaqueKnight said:

Age ain't nothing but a number is shit pedophiles say.

you heard of R. Kelly?

and for the record... I don't put Mayte and Prince's association in the same catergory as R. Kelly's association with teens.

How about Anna Garcia and Prince, then??

jtfolden said:

prodigalfan said:

you heard of R. Kelly?

and for the record... I don't put Mayte and Prince's association in the same catergory as R. Kelly's association with teens.

How about Anna Garcia and Prince, then??

or Susan Moonsie? And wasn't Nona Gaye pretty young, too?

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Chile please. School first.

I don't think there's anything wrong with taking opportunities to work with high profile people in the arts; I had amazing opportunities when I was 20-21 yrs old, but I was also finishing up school ( I was busting my ass to graduate early). Still, school came first and I fit the work schedule around it, and I was working in fashion on a really high level that involved a lot of celebrities.

School first. I'm not as involved in the fashion game as I was 10 years ago, but that piece of paper still affords me the opportunity to travel the world and live in different countries.. and if life falls completely in the toilet I can always work for a company (though I love being self-employed).

Essayvee said:

Some people who say they knew Mayte in Germany claim her mother would often introduce her to wealthy older men to help fund her career and that basically the whole dancing/singing thing was her mothers dream that she encouraged Mayte to do since it wasn't gonna happen for her. If that was the case then it sounds like she was groomed for that life and and so an opportunity to work away from home would be no big thing, and obviously her fam are gonna make sure her secruity/well being would be taken care of before hand, plus age is just a number, i have a 43 yr old aunt who doesn't wanna move out of her parents, and at 18 i moved out of my moms to live with my boyfriend. You'd be surprised at how independant 16/17 yrs can be.

Who are these people in Germany who say this? I live here so I know she danced in a ballet company here, but considering she met Prince when she was 16, that would imply that her mother was introducing her to old German geezers from puberty until then..that sounds a bit rancid and exaggerated. There are far too many opportunities here to study and fund musical and classical dance interests just by way of the fact that a person is living in a strong arts culture here. The middle eastern/belly dance scene is vibrant here because the Turkish are Germany's main minority population and their culture (whether muslim or jew) is an inherent part of the social fabric . I can't imagine the Garcia family would have had to look very far to become part of a community grooming some of the best middle eastern dancers in the world (plus her mother is trained in middle eastern dancing), I think one certainly wouldn't have to seek old gentlemen sponsors to do this. Hell, there's dance studios on every corner and those belly dancing costumes can be bought at the flea markets and subway station kiosks. The implication that had mom was introducing her to old dudes in her early teens just sounds shady and out of character for how people are here.

rbrpm said:

Oh hell 2 the YEAH!

yup

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DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

paintedlady said:

I disgaree... Mayte handled him enough to get Prince to fall in love and marry HER, despite Prince being surrounded by many beautiful women that wanted to be Mrs. Nelson.

Ask Nona, Cat, Carmen, ...

anywho, even at her young age, Mayte was well traveled and came out of her heartache in a good way. She doesn't come off bitter at all and even befriended the same woman rumored to be her husband's mistress.

People do not understand that Mayte is Puerto Rican and in her culture, what she did at her age was no biggie. Jennifer Lopez was out and doing thangs at that age as well, gotta do what you have to do in order to make it in the biz. Mayte took her chance and fell in love, thankfully she walked away sane and happy. Good for her.

Despite coming out of it sane and happy...it didn't work out, mainly because she wasn't ready for what Prince was ready for. Puerto Rican girls that get involved early like she did, often end up just like Mayte, in their late 30s and alone.....she jumped into a relationship too quickly and didn't have a clue what it was all about. I suspect, she is still suffering from it now though. She has yet to really move on...no new hubby, no kids, etc. despite saying that's what she wanted. And I think Prince falling in love with her had little to do with anything she did, and was all about his idea of the situation..

its a huge assumption... none of us know that.

As for Mayte, she got what she wanted, a career in dance, she gave up on wanting kids a while ago. Honestly to her and many others, a husband and children is not the brass ring.

paintedlady said:

its a huge assumption... none of us know that.

As for Mayte, she got what she wanted, a career in dance, she gave up on wanting kids a while ago. Honestly to her and many others, a husband and children is not the brass ring.

If you're around DaphneLovesPR1NCE long enough, you'll realize it's always the fault of everyone else but Prince.

jtfolden said:

paintedlady said:

its a huge assumption... none of us know that.

As for Mayte, she got what she wanted, a career in dance, she gave up on wanting kids a while ago. Honestly to her and many others, a husband and children is not the brass ring.

If you're around DaphneLovesPR1NCE long enough, you'll realize it's always the fault of everyone else but Prince.

I see....

I would love to oppurtunity to work with Prince if I could. But my parents would NEVER EVER allow me to live with Prince in the same house (and I'm 20) . Especially with the man's track record with women.

DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

prodigalfan said:

you heard of R. Kelly?

and for the record... I don't put Mayte and Prince's association in the same catergory as R. Kelly's association with teens.

Why because its Prince?

No, because R. Kelly seems more predatory... reportedly going to high schools trying to hang out with teens, dressing more like a high schooler than a man in his 30 - 40's, (look at how he dressed in Aaliyah's videos) and the serial CASUAL sexual encounters with teens.

Prince on the other hand seems to pick one at a time and invests emotionally into a RELATIONSHIP... and so because of that, there doesn't seem to be as many, in doesn't seem as predatory sexual (which in my mind seems more pedophile in nature) and he seems to encourage the teens (who are older teens 16 - 18) to look and act older.

R. Kelly seems to LIKE the girls to look as young as possible.

Prince seems to like younger girls/women because they are naive and maleable... R. Kelly seems to like young girls because he likes the preadolescent look.

This is whyI don't put those 2 in the same catergory.

BlaqueKnight said:

jtfolden said:

How about Anna Garcia and Prince, then??

or Susan Moonsie? And wasn't Nona Gaye pretty young, too?

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Once again, I put Nona Gaye and Anna Garcia in the same catergory as Mayte. See above comment when comparing Mayte and Prince association with R. Kelly and his many nameless bed partners who are underage. Susan Moonsie may have been a teen, but wasn't Prince also a teen at the time of their association? Wasn't he like 18 or 19 and she was 16 or 17. Hell, I had a boyfriend a couple of years older than myself while in high school.