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Printablemayrain said: DesireeNevermind said: Im still tryna decide whose ass I wanna beat more...Prince's or Mani's
 I say none of the above...they both got what was coming 2 them.....it's sooooo the past it's dead, been buried , trying to come back to life but I say let it die and stay dead. U know what I mean?  good point | |
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laurarichardson said: I am not really interested because even if he was written after Christ's death the passage is telling Christians what they need to do become saved. This is a core belief of Christianity and came from Jesus himself. Jesus was not nailed to a cross just because some did not like his looks. Your like most non-believers you have your mind made up and noting anyone has to say will change your mind. You are in control of every aspect of your life. It is free world and your within in rights to believe as you wish. Go in peace  and if you have time check out a few books that prove that some things that are spoken about from the Bible actually did occur.
http://www.amazon.com/Sto...252&sr=1-4 Except that you won't leave us in peace will you? One would think that you'd be really happy with your relationship with God but no, you're not happy unless we all have a relationship with him too! Why is that I wonder? Whether you want to influence common legislation or teach stultifying nonsense to our kids in schools, you just won't be happy until you finally impose your barbaric god-wrath nonsense on us as well. Of course, its now got to the point where the parties of god may even annihilate us all because of a theocracy in Iran that's about acquire apocalyptic weaponry. Still, as a Christian, you must be looking forward to the end of the world because then you can be 'raptured.' And, if you deny this, then you're clearly not a Christian. No, the last thing your kind wants us to do is "go in peace." | |
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pald1 said: laurarichardson said: I am not really interested because even if he was written after Christ's death the passage is telling Christians what they need to do become saved. This is a core belief of Christianity and came from Jesus himself. Jesus was not nailed to a cross just because some did not like his looks. Your like most non-believers you have your mind made up and noting anyone has to say will change your mind. You are in control of every aspect of your life. It is free world and your within in rights to believe as you wish. Go in peace and if you have time check out a few books that prove that some things that are spoken about from the Bible actually did occur.
http://www.amazon.com/Sto...252&sr=1-4 Except that you won't leave us in peace will you? One would think that you'd be really happy with your relationship with God but no, you're not happy unless we all have a relationship with him too! Why is that I wonder? Whether you want to influence common legislation or teach stultifying nonsense to our kids in schools, you just won't be happy until you finally impose your barbaric god-wrath nonsense on us as well. Of course, its now got to the point where the parties of god may even annihilate us all because of a theocracy in Iran that's about acquire apocalyptic weaponry. Still, as a Christian, you must be looking forward to the end of the world because then you can be 'raptured.' And, if you deny this, then you're clearly not a Christian. No, the last thing your kind wants us to do is "go in peace." ----- "you're not happy unless we all have a relationship with him too" You do not know me from Adam so wtf are you talking about?. You don't know my kind because you do not know me. Your comments are ignorant and your sterotyping. Adults are having a discussion. Take your childish and paranoid ass somewhere else. | |
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GaryMF said: Zannaloaf said: Very little in the bible comes from Jesus himself, the gospels are written YEARS after his death. Jesus died in the year 30 CE, the Gospel of Mark was written between 75 and 80 CE, the Gospel of Matthew between 80 and 85 CE, the Gospel of Luke between 85 and 90, and the Gospel of John in the first decade of the Second Century. So you must not be interested in the Gospels as you state above that you are interested in very little after Jesus' death. Do get at least your timelines straight if you're going to say something so wrong from a straight up historical perspective. And that is all I am talking about here. Not the right or wrong of anyones beliefs or non-beliefs. Word!. LaurarRichardson you contractict yourself in your own post. Read the bold sentences you wrote above. You admit they were written afterwards and then say they came from Jesus himself. Look, I'm not disputing your right to believe that or to belive that is the core of CHristian belief. But saying Jesus himself stated these things is just blatantly incorrect according to the very Bible you claim to believe in. You really should try opening up and reading your Bibles more closely, even if they are in an English translation, because clearly you do not have your facts straight. And who the F*CK are you to call me a non believer???? YOu have no idea what I do or do not believe in. I am just stating FACTS such as what IS and IS NOT written in the texts. Most of what you are spouting is INTERPRETATION of these texts without even bothering to find out what is actually written. ---- Blah, Blah Blah, This thread has been going on for so long I am sure I did write something to contradict myself but I do know what I believe. That Jesus died for my sins. This is all Christians really need to know. I know that millions find comfort in religion and that idea seems to drive some people ape shit because know one should be happy and secure in their beliefs. . I know loads of Christian scholars have studied the bible in the original texts and do not seem to have any problem understanding the purpose of Christianity. I know I do not need a cynical, arrogant (I have more knowledge than anyone else walking the face of the earth), self-important person to spell out what I should believe or tell me how to interpret my religion. Who the fuck I am? A person who is calling you out for what you are or at least the way that you have presented your self on this board. Believe what you want my friend we will all find out the truth in the end. | |
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Zannaloaf said: laurarichardson said: ----- I am not really interested because even if he was written after Christ's death the passage is telling Christians what they need to do become saved. This is a core belief of Christianity and came from Jesus himself. Jesus was not nailed to a cross just because some did not like his looks. Your like most non-believers you have your mind made up and noting anyone has to say will change your mind. You are in control of every aspect of your life. It is free world and your within in rights to believe as you wish. Go in peace and if you have time check out a few books that prove that some things that are spoken about from the Bible actually did occur.
http://www.amazon.com/Sto...252&sr=1-4 Very little in the bible comes from Jesus himself, the gospels are written YEARS after his death. Jesus died in the year 30 CE, the Gospel of Mark was written between 75 and 80 CE, the Gospel of Matthew between 80 and 85 CE, the Gospel of Luke between 85 and 90, and the Gospel of John in the first decade of the Second Century. So you must not be interested in the Gospels as you state above that you are interested in very little after Jesus' death. Do get at least your timelines straight if you're going to say something so wrong from a straight up historical perspective. And that is all I am talking about here. Not the right or wrong of anyones beliefs or non-beliefs. --- Okay Jesus did not tell his followers that he was the son of God and he did not instruct his disciples to spread this message after his death. I wonder if some of you ever went to church or if you are just to fat headed to understand the whole point of Christianity. Your spending all your time worrying about if every word in the Bible came directly from Jesus ( which would not be possible ) when the Bible is the stories, recollections, laws, and parables occuring amoung Christians. I am not interested in the things that occurred after Jesus death because I learned about it a long ass time ago. You can sit around all day worry about the timelines and who said what. Try focusing on Jesus dying for your sins because that is the core of Christianity | |
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laurarichardson said: pald1 said: Except that you won't leave us in peace will you? One would think that you'd be really happy with your relationship with God but no, you're not happy unless we all have a relationship with him too! Why is that I wonder? Whether you want to influence common legislation or teach stultifying nonsense to our kids in schools, you just won't be happy until you finally impose your barbaric god-wrath nonsense on us as well. Of course, its now got to the point where the parties of god may even annihilate us all because of a theocracy in Iran that's about acquire apocalyptic weaponry. Still, as a Christian, you must be looking forward to the end of the world because then you can be 'raptured.' And, if you deny this, then you're clearly not a Christian. No, the last thing your kind wants us to do is "go in peace." ----- "you're not happy unless we all have a relationship with him too" You do not know me from Adam so wtf are you talking about?. You don't know my kind because you do not know me. Your comments are ignorant and your sterotyping. Adults are having a discussion. Take your childish and paranoid ass somewhere else. Your indignation towards the term "your kind" is so predictable. Also predictable is the fact that you don't even try to address my points. You desperate, sad little thing. | |
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laurarichardson said: ---- Blah, Blah Blah, This thread has been going on for so long I am sure I did write something to contradict myself but I do know what I believe. That Jesus died for my sins. This is all Christians really need to know. at least you admit you are contradicting yourself. finally a sign of reason 
Your bold sentence is your right to choose to "only need to know that" but by your own admission it's pretty limited. Hey it's your choice, but a lot of thinking people would want to at least know the background and reasons why they believe something, other than that someone told them they should. I know that millions find comfort in religion and that idea seems to drive some people ape shit because know one should be happy and secure in their beliefs.
NO, that's not what drives people "ape shit". What makes people mad is people who blindly believe things they don't even understand (e.g. misquoting Biblical passages, claiming things are in the Bible which are clearly not etc.) and using those reasons to support and promote forms of bigotry and hatred (e.g. racism, homophobia etc.). . I know loads of Christian scholars have studied the bible in the original texts and do not seem to have any problem understanding the purpose of Christianity. I know I do not need a cynical, arrogant (I have more knowledge than anyone else walking the face of the earth), self-important person to spell out what I should believe or tell me how to interpret my religion.
Who the fuck I am? A person who is calling you out for what you are or at least the way that you have presented your self on this board. Calling me out for what??? You may think I"m arrogant because I happen to know certain things about the Bible that you do not. However, I'm sure there are things about the Bible you know that I do not. Your calling me arrogant is more your own insecurity. I never claimed to be better than you; was just giving you some facts. Moreover, you called me "a non believer". My points was who the f*ck are you to call me that? you have NO IDEA what I believe in. You are assuming because I have pointed out some inaccuracies in things you cited that I don't believe, moreover that I don't believe the way you do, and thus am a "non believer". THAT IS THE HEIGHT OF ARROGANCE. [Edited 5/27/09 21:23pm]  |
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GaryMF said:[quote] laurarichardson said: You need to go back and re-read the Bible. The spilling of seed you refer to is actually in reference to one man, Onan, who is admonished for doing that. And it had to do with a bigger backstory of the fact that Onan had married his late brother's wife as part of the tribal obligations back then (long story) but didnt' want to have another child. Modern conservative people have used this story to say mastrubation is wrong, evil, etc. yet it actually comes from a VERY SPECIFIC story in the Bible with very specific circumstances. The original Judeo-Christian religion was not against sex that was not procreative. Actually, in ancient law/tradition, a woman could demand a divorce from her husband if he was not "performing his husbandly duties" often enough. Sex was understood to be a normal part of life, not just for procreating. The idea that sex is only for making children came much later and driven mainly by the Roman Cathlolic church. If your not a Christian then I would not worry about but it, don't keep screaming that nothing in the bible disapproves of homosexuality.
[Edited 4/28/09 8:02am] Your post, as usual, is very narrowminded. First you assume that only christians should be able to speak on the Bible. Secondly, you are making your own interpretations. I personally have read the Bible in the original language, have you? So by defintion, you're reading an interperation in English, and secondly you are making leaps of logic by taking specific phrases and trying to apply them to 21st century politics (i.e. gay marriage). And the person I replied to made a blanket statement saying that God disapproves of gay marriate and Interracial marriage. Clearly, the Bible does not address either of these 2 modern topics of marriage. And if you actually were able to read and comprehend, I did not "scream that nothing in the bible dissapproves of homosexuality". What I said to the person who was attempting to quote passages from Leviticus was that if you're going to take those passages as things you must adhere to, then you shoudl also take the passages which are in the same book about dietary laws, not mixing fabrics in teh same garments, etc. Right wing people love to quote one line in the Bible and ignore others right next to it. moreover, I poitned out that the word translated as "abomination" is believed to mean "against ritual". And regardless of how you tranlsate it in English, the same word is used to describe thigns like eating pork, wearing linin/ewool garments etc. So if yo uare going to use those passages as your support, then you better not be eating at Red Lobster or wearing wool & linen suits. Otherwise you are a HUGE hypocrite. [Edited 4/28/09 9:46am] lol. That was a beatdown. No Candy 4 Me | |
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laurarichardson said: Zannaloaf said: Very little in the bible comes from Jesus himself, the gospels are written YEARS after his death. Jesus died in the year 30 CE, the Gospel of Mark was written between 75 and 80 CE, the Gospel of Matthew between 80 and 85 CE, the Gospel of Luke between 85 and 90, and the Gospel of John in the first decade of the Second Century. So you must not be interested in the Gospels as you state above that you are interested in very little after Jesus' death. Do get at least your timelines straight if you're going to say something so wrong from a straight up historical perspective. And that is all I am talking about here. Not the right or wrong of anyones beliefs or non-beliefs. --- Okay Jesus did not tell his followers that he was the son of God and he did not instruct his disciples to spread this message after his death. I wonder if some of you ever went to church or if you are just to fat headed to understand the whole point of Christianity. Your spending all your time worrying about if every word in the Bible came directly from Jesus ( which would not be possible ) when the Bible is the stories, recollections, laws, and parables occuring amoung Christians. I am not interested in the things that occurred after Jesus death because I learned about it a long ass time ago. You can sit around all day worry about the timelines and who said what. Try focusing on Jesus dying for your sins because that is the core of Christianity You are the only true Christian I know. Thank goodness we have your knowledge and wisdom to guide us in the right direction. My years of Bible study and Youth Ministry were such a waste in that I could have come to you for the only thing I really need to know. All that other trifling factual stuff need not intrude on your interpretation. What WAS I thinking?? |
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Zannaloaf said: laurarichardson said: --- Okay Jesus did not tell his followers that he was the son of God and he did not instruct his disciples to spread this message after his death. I wonder if some of you ever went to church or if you are just to fat headed to understand the whole point of Christianity. Your spending all your time worrying about if every word in the Bible came directly from Jesus ( which would not be possible ) when the Bible is the stories, recollections, laws, and parables occuring amoung Christians. I am not interested in the things that occurred after Jesus death because I learned about it a long ass time ago. You can sit around all day worry about the timelines and who said what. Try focusing on Jesus dying for your sins because that is the core of Christianity You are the only true Christian I know. Thank goodness we have your knowledge and wisdom to guide us in the right direction. My years of Bible study and Youth Ministry were such a waste in that I could have come to you for the only thing I really need to know. All that other trifling factual stuff need not intrude on your interpretation. What WAS I thinking?? Wow, Can I put my 2 cents in Christ entered into his full ministy @ the age of 30 shortly after his father Joseph died, however he was concieved thorugh devine creation Adam was created son, as Christ was physical created son, dies at the age of 33, therefore spending 3 years as a evangelist you can say. If you read the holy gospels, they are just the accounts of different people, however the consensus would be he was the messiah that was prosphesid thorughout the old testements, as well as the Torah, and other mystical experiences of God. The haters and questioners always wanted or put Christ in the plca eof coming out and saying who he was, he knew why they wanted hin to say even though he did under radar. As we all know, he was charged with blashepmy as well. Let who has an ear hear, and eye see....must impratntly seek understaning in all things. "3" | |
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Hmmm 5 weeks alive and kicking. Mods, isn't this more a thread for Politics and Religion... | |
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DesireeNevermind said: mayrain said: I say none of the above...they both got what was coming 2 them.....it's sooooo the past it's dead, been buried , trying to come back to life but I say let it die and stay dead. U know what I mean? good pointEric's CD must not have done well enough to keep he and Mani on the paparazzi's radar. She needed to do something. Looks alone won't make you a standout in LaLa land. Maybe she'll do some endless bathing suit shots like Mayte. These two will shock me if they ever get beyond D list status as celebrities. | |
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dollwoman said: DesireeNevermind said: good pointEric's CD must not have done well enough to keep he and Mani on the paparazzi's radar. She needed to do something. Looks alone won't make you a standout in LaLa land. Maybe she'll do some endless bathing suit shots like Mayte. These two will shock me if they ever get beyond D list status as celebrities. These two will shock me if they ever make it legal; then have a kid on top of that. | |
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DesireeNevermind said: dollwoman said: Eric's CD must not have done well enough to keep he and Mani on the paparazzi's radar. She needed to do something. Looks alone won't make you a standout in LaLa land. Maybe she'll do some endless bathing suit shots like Mayte. These two will shock me if they ever get beyond D list status as celebrities. These two will shock me if they ever make it legal; then have a kid on top of that. Prince and Halle ain't supporting no kid. No, No, No. However if that kid's got talent those two are born to be stage parents. They'd be pimping that kid out in no time. Baby's got to work, somebody has to. How are those candles doing anyway? ERIC: "you thought you were going to support me with CANDLES!!! What do you mean you thought I was going to SUPPORT YOOUUUU!!!"   | |
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Listen,no matter anyone's opinion,homosexuality is an abomination(meaning sinful)to God. But if you continue reading you will discover that God himself says that we must hate the sin not he person cause God is love and HE can't do anything BUT love. What HE HATES is the SIN not the PERSON. Anyone who says God hates a human being for anything is sadly mistaken. | |
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mel2006 said: Listen,no matter anyone's opinion,homosexuality is an abomination(meaning sinful)to God. But if you continue reading you will discover that God himself says that we must hate the sin not he person cause God is love and HE can't do anything BUT love. What HE HATES is the SIN not the PERSON. Anyone who says God hates a human being for anything is sadly mistaken.
HE WAS SURE HATING ON THOSE SODOMITES AND GAMMORONS!!! AND POOF, THEY WERE GONE!! OH YEAH, THAT FLOOD WAS NO JOKE EITHER. EVEN THE FLIES WERE GETTING MORE LOVE THAN MOST HUMANS. JEEZ I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS THREAD STILL LIVIN'  CARRY ON! | |
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mel2006 said: Listen,no matter anyone's opinion,homosexuality is an abomination(meaning sinful)to God. But if you continue reading you will discover that God himself says that we must hate the sin not he person cause God is love and HE can't do anything BUT love. What HE HATES is the SIN not the PERSON. Anyone who says God hates a human being for anything is sadly mistaken.
He doesn't exactly hate them but he does say that those that don't repent will not enter the kingdom of heaven. Am I right?? Anyway I am not a god of any sort but even if homosexuality was a major abomination homosexuals have not led to the destruction of the ozone layer and the world we live in: No that would be the greedy. And the greedy never worried about being tied to the bumper of a truck and pulled over dirt roads for miles. If anyone gets pushed into the abyss of unresurected souls I say the greedy should go first. Again, I am not a god I am just a human with an opinion. | |
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dollwoman said:[quote] mel2006 said: Listen,no matter anyone's opinion,homosexuality is an abomination(meaning sinful)to God. But if you continue reading you will discover that God himself says that we must hate the sin not he person cause God is love and HE can't do anything BUT love. What HE HATES is the SIN not the PERSON. Anyone who says God hates a human being for anything is sadly mistaken.
He doesn't exactly hate them but he does say that those that don't repent will not enter the kingdom of heaven. Am I right?? Anyway I am not a god of any sort but even if homosexuality was a major abomination homosexuals have not led to the destruction of the ozone layer and the world we live in: No that would be the greedy. And the greedy never worried about being tied to the bumper of a truck and pulled over dirt roads for miles. If anyone gets pushed into the abyss of unresurected souls I say the greedy should go first. Again, I am not a god I am just a human with an opinion.[/quote] Dear God, Please get rid of the following and do it quickly: 1. the greedy 2. remember #1 only applies to the ultra greedy 3. by ultra greedy i mean those who have plenty and still want more 4. now that i think about it prince is kinda greedy 5. he has everything and everything wasn't good enough 6. so yeah take his ass too 7. but not until I've had my way with him 8. but i don't want just one encounter, i want him for a few months 9. so i guess that kinda makes me greedy 10. okay drag my ass to hell as long as Princey by myside to make my vagina quiver. AMEN! | |
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mel2006 said: Listen,no matter anyone's opinion,homosexuality is an abomination(meaning sinful)to God. But if you continue reading you will discover that God himself says that we must hate the sin not he person cause God is love and HE can't do anything BUT love. What HE HATES is the SIN not the PERSON. Anyone who says God hates a human being for anything is sadly mistaken.
How do you know, have you talked to God and asked him? I'm pretty sure he didn't write the Bible himself. But whatever floats your boat... [Edited 6/2/09 14:45pm] | |
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VenusBlingBling said: mel2006 said: Listen,no matter anyone's opinion,homosexuality is an abomination(meaning sinful)to God. But if you continue reading you will discover that God himself says that we must hate the sin not he person cause God is love and HE can't do anything BUT love. What HE HATES is the SIN not the PERSON. Anyone who says God hates a human being for anything is sadly mistaken.
How do you know, have to talked to God and asked him? I'm pretty sure he didn't write the Bibel himself. But whatever floats your boat... God, I thought I was the Queen of typo's and just plain bad spelling -- that Bibel comment alone made me laugh!!  | |
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Being that Prince is a lifelong Ho, he shouldn't judge anyone about their sexuality. Sexuality is all I ever need. Sexuality Im gonna let my body be free. Prince = sexy well dressed hypocrisy.  | |
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dollwoman said: VenusBlingBling said: How do you know, have to talked to God and asked him? I'm pretty sure he didn't write the Bibel himself. But whatever floats your boat... God, I thought I was the Queen of typo's and just plain bad spelling -- that Bibel comment alone made me laugh!! I know, I'm such a comedian when I'm tired. Glad I could make you laugh. | |
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StephaniePlum said: freakyfeet said: Again - people posting "friends" PERSONAL messages from Facebook.
They kindly added you as a friend - why are you then making their comments available to the general public ? That's pretty sad. People shouldn't post anything on these social networking sites that they wouldn't want widely spread and/or known. And that especially goes for those people who will add almost anybody who requests as a "friend", and grow their list of friends into the multiple hundreds; you don't know who you can really trust and who you can't. I don't trust Dr. Funkenberry!  | |
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