meltedman said:

preach my brother

true
I do not respect anyone who views gays as inferior or sinners.

laurarichardson said:

Huh? Your first sentence is unintelligible .



You need to go back and re-read the Bible. The spilling of seed you refer to is actually in reference to one man, Onan, who is admonished for doing that. And it had to do with a bigger backstory of the fact that Onan had married his late brother's wife as part of the tribal obligations back then (long story) but didnt' want to have another child.

Modern conservative people have used this story to say mastrubation is wrong, evil, etc. yet it actually comes from a VERY SPECIFIC story in the Bible with very specific circumstances.

The original Judeo-Christian religion was not against sex that was not procreative. Actually, in ancient law/tradition, a woman could demand a divorce from her husband if he was not "performing his husbandly duties" often enough. Sex was understood to be a normal part of life, not just for procreating.

The idea that sex is only for making children came much later and driven mainly by the Roman Cathlolic church.


Your post, as usual, is very narrowminded.

First you assume that only christians should be able to speak on the Bible.

Secondly, you are making your own interpretations.

I personally have read the Bible in the original language, have you?

So by defintion, you're reading an interperation in English, and secondly you are making leaps of logic by taking specific phrases and trying to apply them to 21st century politics (i.e. gay marriage).

And the person I replied to made a blanket statement saying that God disapproves of gay marriate and Interracial marriage. Clearly, the Bible does not address either of these 2 modern topics of marriage.

And if you actually were able to read and comprehend, I did not "scream that nothing in the bible dissapproves of homosexuality".

What I said to the person who was attempting to quote passages from Leviticus was that if you're going to take those passages as things you must adhere to, then you shoudl also take the passages which are in the same book about dietary laws, not mixing fabrics in teh same garments, etc. Right wing people love to quote one line in the Bible and ignore others right next to it.

moreover, I poitned out that the word translated as "abomination" is believed to mean "against ritual". And regardless of how you tranlsate it in English, the same word is used to describe thigns like eating pork, wearing linin/ewool garments etc.

So if yo uare going to use those passages as your support, then you better not be eating at Red Lobster or wearing wool & linen suits. Otherwise you are a HUGE hypocrite.
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manuela tryna talk about Prince's views...what the hell are her views? Fornicating heffer messing around with a married man then tryna gold dig her way to another celebrity while still talking about her ex and using his name when its beneficial to her. yeah wutevs mani fanny.

GaryMF said:[quote]

laurarichardson said:

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Your not worth my time because I am not even talking about homosexuality and
Leviticus. I am talking about not spilling the seeds. If God put boils on a man, skin for the spilling the seeds what in the world do, you think would happen with sex without marriage and please do not say it was the Catholic Church that came up with it. Have you never heard of the Ten Commandments? They are very easy to understand and the come from the Old Testament.

Or do we all then to go out a read the Bible in the original language to understand the Ten Commandments.

Of course somethings in the Bible are open to interpretation and should be adjusted to modern day thinking but I think God was really clear on whoring around.

Some conservatives read what the want to read in the Bible (they ignore not judging people) but some liberals read what they want to read from the bible to suit their behavior. In the end you can’t have it both ways.

In addtion, I am not Jewish so I will eat all the seafood I want.

DesireeNevermind said:

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Exactly she really needs to shut the hell up and all of the people supporting her homewrecking butt need to as well.

Run around with a married man is okay but don't support gay marrigage and you need to be burn at the stake.

stanleylieber said:

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Why are Christians and Hebrews considered arrogant for preaching to people? They did not put a gun or sword to their heads. In addtion, are Buddish and Hindus arrogant for believeing in their many Gods and pusing their religion.

laurarichardson said:

see the post i quoted.

laurarichardson said:

DesireeNevermind said:

at this whole thread.

purplecam said:

why so negative?

stanleylieber said:

I'm not being negative or positive. I'm just shaking my head at this thread.

purplecam said:

that ain't neutral.

stanleylieber said:

Why does it matter to you?

purplecam said:

what kind of question is that? what does it matter to you?

i'm just saying. all this judging going on, about people judging.

we can test this experimentally. watch:

lotusflower

stanleylieber said:

That's your right to do that. I'm not judging anyone but you just wanna go there. Are you trying to start shit today? You need to stay in your lane and do you. Get into that.

purplecam said:

sorry. i keep trying to hold people to their own (stated) standards. you're right. that's nuts.

do me a favor though. can we get a break from the positivity police when you don't agree with the negative things that are being said? the double-standard is irritating.

(this isn't just directed at you.)

if negativity is bad in and of itself, then that includes negativity about negativity.

sorry for starting trouble. i'm all finished.

stanleylieber said:

Maybe when you stop feeling the need to try and analize any and everyone that may be considered to be positive. Now that's irritating. I'm done too.
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Even if Prince is against gay marriage I'm with him! I am bisexual and I feel that marriage should be between a man and woman but...I feel that gay couple's should have the right to share with there mate or even share benefits and medical as offered from there (work)company to spouses. My two pense!

Manuela is a woman scorned who is out for revenge...safely, lol

What I don't understand about people that want to work for Prince or date him is, they know it will not last long but they seem to think they have what it takes to make someone like him happy...what are you thinking? He changes some people like he changes cloths. Why do you think he should keep you around when he has let go of so many other people? I'll tell you why; Prince has seen all kinds and within the first few minutes of conversation he can tell if you are ginuwine or not and get bored.

stanleylieber said:

Hater.

SoulAlive said:

FYI--- Look around you. This country is very divided on the issue of gay marriage. Prince is not the only one with an opinion, or a religious belief.

catpark said:

Maybe she is jealous of Bria. If she was happy with the sex addict, she wouldn't be so catty toward Prince.

StephaniePlum said:

Exactly! Once you press the send or post button, you have given up your right to privacy.

Mani thought Prince was special. Prince thought Mani was special. They thought they were special together. Turns out they both just a couple average hos watching the snow in April.


i don't know what that means.

DesireeNevermind said:

DesireeNevermind said:

HAHAHAHAHA.....

How is she going to pay rent now??? this is clearly in violation of the hush hush agreement he makes errbody sign off on - No more alimony 4 u!!
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laurarichardson said:

First, you are the one who is connecting spilling the seed to homosexuality.

Since you brought it up, it comes from the Book of Genesis. THat is where the biblical reference to "spilling seed is". You should read your own source.

The Catholics interpreted that to say masturbation is wrong. but the "spilling the seed" is actually referring to the fact that Onan "pulled out" when having sex with his late brother's wife.

Secondly, YES You should read the 10 commandments in the original language. Then You might learn that the 10 commandments appear TWICE in the Bible, in Exodus and later in Dueteronomy and THEY ARE NOT EXACTLY THE SAME BOTH TIMES!!!

You act like you know what you are talking about but clearly you have not studied the Bible. And you can eat as much seafood as you like. I was referring to the other poster who was quoting Leviticus to say being gay is wrong but doesnt' care about other passages in Levitius.

It seems you are not capable of having an intelligent discussion on this based on the text. instead you are referring to Bible stories you are vaguely familiar with. How sad.

DesireeNevermind said:

You crazy as hell

GaryMF said:

Most of her posts are...

funkteer said:

Yes, but they weren't the ones pimping their wares on a show hosted by someone whose lifestyle he condemned. As has been said, that's hypocritical.

DesireeNevermind said: