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Reply #60 posted 07/13/08 3:47pm

realm

Sweet Jebus, Can't you idiots see! I'm not gonna not get dem cds.

You damn fools! lol
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Reply #61 posted 07/13/08 7:22pm

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Anxiety said:

Check out the upcoming releases on WB's Rhino Records Web site:

http://www.rhino.com/stor...ming.lasso


Hitting the shelves on July 29 will be the following releases:

Sheila E – Romance 1600 (Encore)

Sheila E – Sex Cymbal (Encore)

Sheila E – Sheila E (Encore)

The Time – Pandemonium (Encore)


Interesting that three out of these four selections are Paisley Park titles, eh? Could the likes of Jill Jones and The Family be far away....? hmmm


Oh man, Can you say Vanity 6?
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Reply #62 posted 07/13/08 7:41pm

mkaye8

Funny I sent this link in 3 weeks ago...what took so long?
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Reply #63 posted 07/14/08 2:14am

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MattyJam said:

I'll only buy them if there's bonus material...


Hey MattyJam, I've been 2 the AIMOO site lookin' 4 those tabs U mention, but...can't find a thing. Could U help? Thanx! smile
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Reply #64 posted 07/14/08 5:24am

SoulAlive

I'm gonna get the 'Romance 1600' and 'Sheila E' CDs which I never had on CD before (I had the vinyl records back in the day).I already have the 'Sex Cymbal' CD,so no need to buy it again.

I have 'Pandemonium' on vinyl and that's enough for me.It's not one of my favorite Time albums.
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Reply #65 posted 07/14/08 5:54am

funkpill

Pandemonium with bonus tracks??!!! feeling ill

Oh Gawd no!!! feeling ill You mean it gets worse??!!
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Reply #66 posted 07/14/08 5:54am

SoulAlive

DevotedPuppy said:

I vote for reissues of Apollonia 6 and Mazarati.


nod that would be GREAT! Those are the two Paisley-related albums that I really want to have on CD.
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Reply #67 posted 07/14/08 6:01am

SoulAlive

funkpill said:

Pandemonium with bonus tracks??!!! feeling ill

Oh Gawd no!!! feeling ill You mean it gets worse??!!


falloff
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Reply #68 posted 07/14/08 6:23am

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jdcxc said:

C'mon, your research is better than this. He did instrumental concerts following his Vegas shows and afterhour sets in London.


And NONE were surprising., Same crap he's been peddling for years.

jdcxc said:

Prince and Radiohead/BS have different audience expectations.


For which PRINCE is to blame.

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And don't even get my started on the apartheid nature of popular cultural arts that straightjacket African-American musicians into hit-churners as opposed to creative and intelligent artists.


So to sum up: Prince is like nobody else, except that he is. You gotta love Prince fans: you lot just take whatever position you think will win a debate. Consistency? Who cares about that.
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Reply #69 posted 07/14/08 6:26am

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laurarichardson said:

Too bad you missed the Rainbow Children shows or any of the aftershows since.
He has played non-hits at these shows. He really makes an effort to please everyone but, it sounds like your just plain board with the music in general.


What would you know? I bet I've heard far more concerts than you. I know what I'm talking about.

And it's "bored", not "board".

Oh, and again: PRINCE is bored with his own music. Go on, what songs from the past 10 years did he play live in his recent concerts?
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Reply #70 posted 07/14/08 6:31am

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laurarichardson said:

Yes, Bart it is all bullshit because we all know that P has been with one hugh record lable for the last decade.


It's "huge", not "hugh".

And FYI: he's been peddling each new record to major labels. What did Reznor do the minute he got out? He thought up new ways of releasing music, and a) made a ton of money and b) made a lot of fans happy. Oh, and each time he got huge ratings on Digg.com.

But then Reznor is just doing what he promised to do years earlier (and much more). Prince meanwhile is still stuck in the "I need a major label to score a hit and I'll throw a tantrum if they fail to score one after I sabotage the whole lot" mode. Repeat ad infinitum.

(I'm still laughing my ass off about that poster who claimed it takes Prince 1.5 years to have an ROI on his latest records -- records that stop selling a month after the release date!)
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Reply #71 posted 07/14/08 6:36am

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namepeace said:

And I think over the last few years, yes, he is packing them in by playing the oldies, just like the Stones and now The Police.


Except that the Stones don't seem bored out of their skulls when playing their hits, and the Police haven't played together in what, 20 years (and still sucked big time).
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Reply #72 posted 07/14/08 6:44am

Cinnie

SoulAlive said:

funkpill said:

Pandemonium with bonus tracks??!!! feeling ill

Oh Gawd no!!! feeling ill You mean it gets worse??!!


falloff


lol To be honest I am dumbfounded why they would choose Pandemonium to re-release over just about anything else. Worst Time CD, used copies of the original CD are widely available.

And ask the fans maybe?? Jill Jones, Apollonia 6, Vanity 6, The Family... these are the ones that are in demand.
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Reply #73 posted 07/14/08 8:46am

Krid

@ Bart:
I really don't know what you get so upset about. So you don't like Prince's new music. OK. So you don't like his concerts because they are the same-old-hits. OK (I actually find this funny - you don't like his new music, so what should he play according to your wishes? 80s vault and album tracks?).

Go on, discover new artists, go to different concerts (which I am sure you do). I have been a fan since Dirty Mind, and while I don't like his new stuff too much either, I think there are still gems in there. And yes, the 80s were masterpieces (with the exception of Controversy), but come on, to top this is just very dificult. He could have stopped right there, but I like it that I get a piece of Prince music almost every year...

It seems that you take Prince's actions (his new music, his choice of concert sets,...) as personal insults to you. Why this rage and disapointment? Have you actually met the guy and he did something to you? Or were you working at Warners?

Just curious about this inner turmoil you seem to have...

PS: Please don't correct any mistakes I might have made, I am a non-native English speaker...
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Reply #74 posted 07/14/08 9:08am

Anxiety

Cinnie said:

SoulAlive said:



falloff


lol To be honest I am dumbfounded why they would choose Pandemonium to re-release over just about anything else. Worst Time CD, used copies of the original CD are widely available.

And ask the fans maybe?? Jill Jones, Apollonia 6, Vanity 6, The Family... these are the ones that are in demand.


i'm guessing these will be "nice price" bare-bones reissues simply meant to fill in gaps in the time/sheila e. catalogs until someday WB gets off their butts and starts working on a more enterprising reissue project. i think the other time albums are still in print (and in need of remastering magic), so maybe the reissue of these four albums is simply a way of providing more fodder at merch tables at sheila/time concerts, if nothing else. i dunno. seems kinda random, but whatever. i need a decent CD copy of the sheila S/T album. nod
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Reply #75 posted 07/14/08 9:53am

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Prince last best tours were 1994/1995 as they were the most interesting tours…. The bootlegs from them say it all. I am so glad I got to see him live 1995.

I liked Bruce Springsteen’s covers album We Shall Overcome, The Seeger Sessions even though I am not a fan of covers. Prince’s cover of Everyday Is a Winding Road was one of the worst covers I have ever heard.

Prince can play the hits if he wants to… The choice is yours to listen.
Prince can release shit albums if he wants to… The choice is yours to buy
Prince can be anything he wants to be…. The choice is yours to stick with him.
Prince can pick his nose if he wants to…. The choice is yours to eat his booger.
ieve Freedom and it should not be denied by Others.
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Reply #76 posted 07/14/08 10:13am

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SoulAlive said:

DevotedPuppy said:

I vote for reissues of Apollonia 6 and Mazarati.


nod that would be GREAT! Those are the two Paisley-related albums that I really want to have on CD.


I wonder what is keeping those from being reissued. I'm sure there is much more interest in seeing those available as legal and affordable CDs/downloads. I would say Prince, but take a look at these releases.
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Reply #77 posted 07/14/08 10:23am

Cinnie

Anxiety said:

maybe the reissue of these four albums is simply a way of providing more fodder at merch tables at sheila/time concerts, if nothing else. i dunno. seems kinda random, but whatever. i need a decent CD copy of the sheila S/T album. nod


I realize The Time and Sheila E are the only acts that still tour so that's probably why.

I need Sheila E (1987) on CD too. Never came across it on CD used, just cassette.
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Reply #78 posted 07/14/08 10:27am

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BartVanHemelen said:



Why just these albums? None of those are hard to find.

How 'bout the Mazarati album? Jill Jones? The two Madhouse albums? Eric Leeds' albums? http://en.wikipedia.org/w...iscography I've got just about everything on that list, but I'd really love good remasters and a bunch of extras, like remixes and outtakes and unseen artwork and pictures etcetera. Hell, what about entire unreleased albums?

Why can't someone talk sense into Prince and make him realize that he's got so much great stuff stored away in that pointless vault of his? And if it goes against his principles, then there's a simple solution: get rid of all of it, and send the profits to a decent charity. (As if these things will ever be profitable. It's not like there's a huge market for these.)


Daar ben ik het niet mee eens.
Kiss was geschreven voor the familie en al uitgebracht. was geen succes.
En wat dacht je van de Martika nr.s.

Prince maakte er een super hit van. en zo zijn er nog velen.
Laatste tijd duiken er steeds meer nummers op uit de "kluis" en daar zitten echte juwelen tussen.

Mvg


Je hebt de klok wel horen luiden....

Kiss was written for Mazarati
Nothing Compares 2 U for De Familie
Martika? What are you trying to say anyway...?
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Reply #79 posted 07/14/08 10:28am

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DevotedPuppy said:

Cool (even though I have all of these except Pandemonium). I wonder why they chose Sex Cymbal instead of The Glamorous Life? I wish they would include the b-sides. I vote for reissues of Apollonia 6 and Mazarati.


Or Vanity 6. I'd LOVE that! Why Panadamonium and not Ice Cream Castles?

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Reply #80 posted 07/14/08 10:29am

Anxiety

Cinnie said:

Anxiety said:

maybe the reissue of these four albums is simply a way of providing more fodder at merch tables at sheila/time concerts, if nothing else. i dunno. seems kinda random, but whatever. i need a decent CD copy of the sheila S/T album. nod


I realize The Time and Sheila E are the only acts that still tour so that's probably why.

I need Sheila E (1987) on CD too. Never came across it on CD used, just cassette.


yeah, jill jones and the family would be great reissues for fans, but they'd be a hard sell for the general public unless someone came up with a really seductive marketing campaign...and even then, i think it would still be a hard sell beyond the fans.

meanwhile, yeah, the time and sheila are still chugging along so in terms of fans still being generated from tours and appearances, i can see how the demand for these reissues would be a little more realistic.
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Reply #81 posted 07/14/08 10:30am

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Anxiety said:

DevotedPuppy said:

Cool (even though I have all of these except Pandemonium). I wonder why they chose Sex Cymbal instead of The Glamorous Life? I wish they would include the b-sides. I vote for reissues of Apollonia 6 and Mazarati.


i don't think glamorous life is out of print. it is in desperate need of remastering, but i think it's still easy to find in shops.

i would be surprised if these four titles get a fancy reissue treatment other than maybe a few extra pics in the liner notes booklets. if we get extra tracks, essays, etc., i'll be happily surprised.


Glamorous Life is still available on Amazon. Shelia E and In Romance 1600 are not.

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Reply #82 posted 07/14/08 10:33am

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BartVanHemelen said:

Anxiety said:

Check out the upcoming releases on WB's Rhino Records Web site:

http://www.rhino.com/stor...ming.lasso

Hitting the shelves on July 29 will be the following releases:

Sheila E – Romance 1600 (Encore)

Sheila E – Sex Cymbal (Encore)

Sheila E – Sheila E (Encore)

The Time – Pandemonium (Encore)


Interesting that three out of these four selections are Paisley Park titles, eh? Could the likes of Jill Jones and The Family be far away....? hmmm


Betcha this is gonna be another huge disappointment. Remastered? Doubtful. Liner notes? Could be, but IMHO probably lame an uninformative. Bonus tracks? Totally unlikely.

Let's see what Amazon knows:

http://www.amazon.com/Pan...001BPB1GU/
http://www.amazon.com/Rom...001BPB1G0/
http://www.amazon.com/She...001BPB1GK/
http://www.amazon.com/Sex...001BPB1GA/

Yeah. The lack of information speaks volumes.

Why just these albums? None of those are hard to find.

How 'bout the Mazarati album? Jill Jones? The two Madhouse albums? Eric Leeds' albums? http://en.wikipedia.org/w...iscography I've got just about everything on that list, but I'd really love good remasters and a bunch of extras, like remixes and outtakes and unseen artwork and pictures etcetera. Hell, what about entire unreleased albums?

Why can't someone talk sense into Prince and make him realize that he's got so much great stuff stored away in that pointless vault of his? And if it goes against his principles, then there's a simple solution: get rid of all of it, and send the profits to a decent charity. (As if these things will ever be profitable. It's not like there's a huge market for these.)


I'm pretty sure that someone has and that Prince has thought of it.

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Reply #83 posted 07/14/08 10:36am

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jdcxc said:

BartVanHemelen said:



Betcha this is gonna be another huge disappointment. Remastered? Doubtful. Liner notes? Could be, but IMHO probably lame an uninformative. Bonus tracks? Totally unlikely.

Let's see what Amazon knows:

http://www.amazon.com/Pan...001BPB1GU/
http://www.amazon.com/Rom...001BPB1G0/
http://www.amazon.com/She...001BPB1GK/
http://www.amazon.com/Sex...001BPB1GA/

Yeah. The lack of information speaks volumes.

Why just these albums? None of those are hard to find.

How 'bout the Mazarati album? Jill Jones? The two Madhouse albums? Eric Leeds' albums? http://en.wikipedia.org/w...iscography I've got just about everything on that list, but I'd really love good remasters and a bunch of extras, like remixes and outtakes and unseen artwork and pictures etcetera. Hell, what about entire unreleased albums?

Why can't someone talk sense into Prince and make him realize that he's got so much great stuff stored away in that pointless vault of his? And if it goes against his principles, then there's a simple solution: get rid of all of it, and send the profits to a decent charity. (As if these things will ever be profitable. It's not like there's a huge market for these.)


I agree. It's ridiculous that an artist of P's stature has such a shoddily handled catalog and that includes all his satellite work. I don't understand how some of these titles are out-of-print. You can buy an obscure album that sells 12 copies a year but not albums that sold 100,000 to 2 mil?

I know Prince's fight with WB has created this problem, and he does not want to became a artist dwelling in nostalgia and oldies, but give me a break!

There will be a proper release at some point (including remastering) of his entire catalog. Has WB ever commented on the tragic state of his past catalog. Why are his albums out-of-print?


Superspaceboy Prince Theory # 23 - Prince is going to make all/most of his albums go out of print so he becomes the most collected artist of all time and his music will be sought after and fetch high prices.

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Reply #84 posted 07/14/08 10:37am

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superspaceboy said:

jdcxc said:



I agree. It's ridiculous that an artist of P's stature has such a shoddily handled catalog and that includes all his satellite work. I don't understand how some of these titles are out-of-print. You can buy an obscure album that sells 12 copies a year but not albums that sold 100,000 to 2 mil?

I know Prince's fight with WB has created this problem, and he does not want to became a artist dwelling in nostalgia and oldies, but give me a break!

There will be a proper release at some point (including remastering) of his entire catalog. Has WB ever commented on the tragic state of his past catalog. Why are his albums out-of-print?


Superspaceboy Prince Theory # 23 - Prince is going to make all/most of his albums go out of print so he becomes the most collected artist of all time and his music will be sought after and fetch high prices.


everyone else remasters and reissues their back catalogs; therefore, prince will not. nod
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Reply #85 posted 07/14/08 10:40am

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NouveauDance said:

Nice.

The only one that people have difficulty finding cheap there is Sheila's 3rd LP, but it's still great to see these albums re-issued, hopefully there will be more to follow if these sell well.

I'd hope there was some remastering, if not bonus tracks added too, I probably wouldn't buy they otherwise as there would be no reason.


Honestly if they aren't re-mastered, I might as well keep the copies I have. I'd take V6 remaster with no extra cuts, it that bad in needing a remaster. Could you imagine a full on V6 remaster with extended or extra cuts? drool faint

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Reply #86 posted 07/14/08 10:44am

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Anxiety said:

Cinnie said:



I realize The Time and Sheila E are the only acts that still tour so that's probably why.

I need Sheila E (1987) on CD too. Never came across it on CD used, just cassette.


yeah, jill jones and the family would be great reissues for fans, but they'd be a hard sell for the general public unless someone came up with a really seductive marketing campaign...and even then, i think it would still be a hard sell beyond the fans.

meanwhile, yeah, the time and sheila are still chugging along so in terms of fans still being generated from tours and appearances, i can see how the demand for these reissues would be a little more realistic.


As a fan, I have no desire for Jill Jones or The Family...Unless the bonus material included P versions of the songs.

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Reply #87 posted 07/14/08 10:45am

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Anxiety said:

superspaceboy said:



Superspaceboy Prince Theory # 23 - Prince is going to make all/most of his albums go out of print so he becomes the most collected artist of all time and his music will be sought after and fetch high prices.


everyone else remasters and reissues their back catalogs; therefore, prince will not. nod


He'd probably see it as a "cool" thing. Just like he envisioned in having his own section in the music store. I see it as more an ego thing.

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Reply #88 posted 07/14/08 10:48am

Anxiety

superspaceboy said:

Anxiety said:



yeah, jill jones and the family would be great reissues for fans, but they'd be a hard sell for the general public unless someone came up with a really seductive marketing campaign...and even then, i think it would still be a hard sell beyond the fans.

meanwhile, yeah, the time and sheila are still chugging along so in terms of fans still being generated from tours and appearances, i can see how the demand for these reissues would be a little more realistic.


As a fan, I have no desire for Jill Jones or The Family...Unless the bonus material included P versions of the songs.


i'd be overjoyed if a reissue of jill jones' album came out with bonus tracks of her 12" versions and b-sides. in my opinion, it's essentially a prince album with JJ providing lead vocals. you can literally hear prince all over the place. i especially like his backing vox in "for love". as for the family? i could take it or leave it. i enjoy the album just fine but i've never had any great enthusiasm for it.
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Reply #89 posted 07/14/08 11:47am

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superspaceboy said:

jdcxc said:



I agree. It's ridiculous that an artist of P's stature has such a shoddily handled catalog and that includes all his satellite work. I don't understand how some of these titles are out-of-print. You can buy an obscure album that sells 12 copies a year but not albums that sold 100,000 to 2 mil?

I know Prince's fight with WB has created this problem, and he does not want to became a artist dwelling in nostalgia and oldies, but give me a break!

There will be a proper release at some point (including remastering) of his entire catalog. Has WB ever commented on the tragic state of his past catalog. Why are his albums out-of-print?


Superspaceboy Prince Theory # 23 - Prince is going to make all/most of his albums go out of print so he becomes the most collected artist of all time and his music will be sought after and fetch high prices.


Flaw in Prince's business plan # 777- Prince may make all/most of his albums go out of print and very well become "the most collected artist of all time". Furthermore, although his music will sell for exorbitant amounts, he will receive almost none of the proceeds because he will not be the one selling the albums. It will be collector to collector, like it is now. lol
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