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Thread started 04/27/08 7:53am

thebanishedone

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josh is princes most inaudiable bass player

right from the first days prince's music always had prominent bass guitar in the mix.

his sound changed over years but prominent fat funky bass was always there .
but now days i can't hear bass when i listen to prince live recordings.

i don't know if the problem is in josh or prince want him to sound that way but josh playing is so burried in the mix he sounds only proffesional and nothing more then that.

i can describe rhonda,brown mark ,levi ,sonny t,andre they all had their distinctive styles very characteristic for them.
i don't know how can i describe joshs playing ,i can only say inaudiable.
his wife is great addition to the band but i don't know if i can say the same for josh
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Reply #1 posted 04/27/08 7:56am

RumAndRaisin

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thebanishedone said:

right from the first days prince's music always had prominent bass guitar in the mix.

his sound changed over years but prominent fat funky bass was always there .
but now days i can't hear bass when i listen to prince live recordings.



it does depend on the quality of the recording, the 9th sep o2 show (for your memories release) is thin on bass, very thin.

however, another recording of the same night has plenty of bass and the sound is awsome.

remember, its all about venue and recording quality.
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Reply #2 posted 04/28/08 7:58am

Taurus

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who is he?
[Edited 4/28/08 7:59am]
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Reply #3 posted 04/28/08 11:37am

RumAndRaisin

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Taurus said:

who is he?
[Edited 4/28/08 7:59am]

erm... princes bass player?

where have u been for the last 3 years??? lol
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Reply #4 posted 04/28/08 12:05pm

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I haven't really paid as much attention to his back up singers/musicians lately. In the past they seemed to stand out a lot more with their own identity, but lately seem regulated to the background
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Reply #5 posted 04/28/08 10:07pm

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Cora and josh are a package deal neutral please-please-please let JOSH GO


he's just a waste of electricity on stage confused lol
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Reply #6 posted 04/29/08 7:58am

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Actually, after finally hearing some of the O2 shows, I've decided that this band kicks it harder and tighter than the Musicology band.

Yeah, John Blackwell was impressive, but Cora is MUCH tighter, and has a sick amount of power as well.

It has been absolutely wonderful 2 see Renato Neto back in the regular lineup.

As long as Mike "no soul" Scott never comes back on guitar, I'm straight with the lineup as it is...

PEACE.
"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #7 posted 04/29/08 8:45am

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Giovanni777 said:

Actually, after finally hearing some of the O2 shows, I've decided that this band kicks it harder and tighter than the Musicology band.

Yeah, John Blackwell was impressive, but Cora is MUCH tighter, and has a sick amount of power as well.

It has been absolutely wonderful 2 see Renato Neto back in the regular lineup.

As long as Mike "no soul" Scott never comes back on guitar, I'm straight with the lineup as it is...

PEACE.


why do people keep saying Renatos back??

hes been in the band since december 2006, so he only left a over a year (2005 was pretty much gigless, and the lineup wasnt consistent.)

your right about the band. this lineup is my fav ever as the can play jazz / rock and pretty much anything else. however the 2004 line up sounded too jazzy, even lets go crazy sounded jazzy
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Reply #8 posted 04/29/08 9:20am

sosgemini

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Renato the snuzz is still around? barf

zzz
Space for sale...
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Reply #9 posted 04/29/08 9:21am

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RumAndRaisin said:

Giovanni777 said:

Actually, after finally hearing some of the O2 shows, I've decided that this band kicks it harder and tighter than the Musicology band.

Yeah, John Blackwell was impressive, but Cora is MUCH tighter, and has a sick amount of power as well.

It has been absolutely wonderful 2 see Renato Neto back in the regular lineup.

As long as Mike "no soul" Scott never comes back on guitar, I'm straight with the lineup as it is...

PEACE.


why do people keep saying Renatos back??

hes been in the band since december 2006, so he only left a over a year (2005 was pretty much gigless, and the lineup wasnt consistent.)


your right about the band. this lineup is my fav ever as the can play jazz / rock and pretty much anything else. however the 2004 line up sounded too jazzy, even lets go crazy sounded jazzy


Yeah, you're right about that, but I was a bit worried that he was playing alot of the gigs, but not really in the band, which it seems he indeed is, which is fantastic.
"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #10 posted 04/29/08 9:36am

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Giovanni777 said:

RumAndRaisin said:



why do people keep saying Renatos back??

hes been in the band since december 2006, so he only left a over a year (2005 was pretty much gigless, and the lineup wasnt consistent.)


your right about the band. this lineup is my fav ever as the can play jazz / rock and pretty much anything else. however the 2004 line up sounded too jazzy, even lets go crazy sounded jazzy


Yeah, you're right about that, but I was a bit worried that he was playing alot of the gigs, but not really in the band, which it seems he indeed is, which is fantastic.


since rejoining in dec 2006 hes done the vegas shows, the one off concerts mid 2007, the o2 shows, the private partys, and coachella. and various tv performances.
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Reply #11 posted 04/29/08 9:57am

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I just realised that I didn't say anything about Josh on Bass.

There have been MANY times when Mark Brown and Levi were down in the mix, live.

Rhonda was the only Bassist that really stood out in the mix live.

Other than that, Josh is SOLID and tight, just as Cora is.
"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #12 posted 04/29/08 5:26pm

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utopia7 said:

Cora and josh are a package deal neutral please-please-please let JOSH GO


he's just a waste of electricity on stage confused lol



Couldn't have said it better myself. Not only is his bass playing zzz he appears to have the charisma of pet rock. Where's the energy, the funk face? How ya gonna play the bass and not be funky? disbelief
"Your presence and dry wit are appealing in a mysterious way."
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Reply #13 posted 04/30/08 6:56pm

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DevotedPuppy said:

utopia7 said:

Cora and josh are a package deal neutral please-please-please let JOSH GO


he's just a waste of electricity on stage confused lol



Couldn't have said it better myself. Not only is his bass playing zzz he appears to have the charisma of pet rock. Where's the energy, the funk face? How ya gonna play the bass and not be funky? disbelief



Well.....Josh got the gig(and has kept it) and countless other bass players didn't..... So PRINCE must feel he's doing something right. I've talked to Josh on several occassions and he has stated P is very specific about what he wants bass wise. Tone.....4 or 5 string...etc...I remeber when Rhonda first came on board and she had the 5 string...6 string....fretless etc.. and P said she struggled playing "let's work"?!..towards the last few yrs of her run she was strictly 4 string fender jazz....except for that upright she used on very few songs....and she wasn't struggling w/ "let's work" as much. Also you have to remember Josh is playing a greater catalog of tunes the others didn't have the pressure of duplicating. He's gotta do over 30 yrs worth of work!!!! Prince's shows are more musical now than they've ever been. I love BM,Sonny and Rhonda but they had the P doin' splits,slides, jumping on speakers etc. The P Josh has is straight "play"! Not to mention they're doin "Footprints", "What is Hip?" and other tunes in addition to P's catalog.
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Reply #14 posted 05/03/08 6:43am

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Giovanni777 said:

Actually, after finally hearing some of the O2 shows, I've decided that this band kicks it harder and tighter than the Musicology band.

Yeah, John Blackwell was impressive, but Cora is MUCH tighter, and has a sick amount of power as well.

It has been absolutely wonderful 2 see Renato Neto back in the regular lineup.

As long as Mike "no soul" Scott never comes back on guitar, I'm straight with the lineup as it is...

PEACE.

comparing cora to john blackwell is is mind boggling!
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Reply #15 posted 05/03/08 7:30pm

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JQuad said:

DevotedPuppy said:




Couldn't have said it better myself. Not only is his bass playing zzz he appears to have the charisma of pet rock. Where's the energy, the funk face? How ya gonna play the bass and not be funky? disbelief



Well.....Josh got the gig(and has kept it) and countless other bass players didn't..... So PRINCE must feel he's doing something right. I've talked to Josh on several occassions and he has stated P is very specific about what he wants bass wise. Tone.....4 or 5 string...etc...I remeber when Rhonda first came on board and she had the 5 string...6 string....fretless etc.. and P said she struggled playing "let's work"?!..towards the last few yrs of her run she was strictly 4 string fender jazz....except for that upright she used on very few songs....and she wasn't struggling w/ "let's work" as much. Also you have to remember Josh is playing a greater catalog of tunes the others didn't have the pressure of duplicating. He's gotta do over 30 yrs worth of work!!!! Prince's shows are more musical now than they've ever been. I love BM,Sonny and Rhonda but they had the P doin' splits,slides, jumping on speakers etc. The P Josh has is straight "play"! Not to mention they're doin "Footprints", "What is Hip?" and other tunes in addition to P's catalog.



Thank you for your post which makes much sense as to Josh's role I guess he's just playing as opposed to being a personality and funny I don't hear PRINCE giving him solo spotlights not since i've seen various shows.... I still agree with devotedpuppy with him being a pet rock lol
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Reply #16 posted 05/04/08 7:03am

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utopia7 said:

JQuad said:




Well.....Josh got the gig(and has kept it) and countless other bass players didn't..... So PRINCE must feel he's doing something right. I've talked to Josh on several occassions and he has stated P is very specific about what he wants bass wise. Tone.....4 or 5 string...etc...I remeber when Rhonda first came on board and she had the 5 string...6 string....fretless etc.. and P said she struggled playing "let's work"?!..towards the last few yrs of her run she was strictly 4 string fender jazz....except for that upright she used on very few songs....and she wasn't struggling w/ "let's work" as much. Also you have to remember Josh is playing a greater catalog of tunes the others didn't have the pressure of duplicating. He's gotta do over 30 yrs worth of work!!!! Prince's shows are more musical now than they've ever been. I love BM,Sonny and Rhonda but they had the P doin' splits,slides, jumping on speakers etc. The P Josh has is straight "play"! Not to mention they're doin "Footprints", "What is Hip?" and other tunes in addition to P's catalog.



Thank you for your post which makes much sense as to Josh's role I guess he's just playing as opposed to being a personality and funny I don't hear PRINCE giving him solo spotlights not since i've seen various shows.... I still agree with devotedpuppy with him being a pet rock lol


If that's what his boss wants.....If that's what the gig calls for....then he's doing his job. trying to satisfy members of a Prince website I don't believe was in his job description. We post about our opinions about P's music.....Josh makes a living playing P's music w/P!!!! Who wouldn't want that gig? Anybody else would be doing the same thing or simply get the axe. Let's not cast stones people....
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