steelyd said:

Good question. Andre and Morris both give P his props. No doubt about it. Do they feel P is a musical genius? I doubt it. Do they think he was a hard worker, extremely dedicated? Most definately. When those cats went to sleep, when they awoke the next morning, P had two new songs. See what I'm saying? That's how P was. I think P was a hella naturally gifted cat. More so than the others? Maybe not. BUT P WORKED at it more than anybody else. He practiced more. He wrote more. He sung more. He woodsheded. So it was so sharp that it cut glass. PLUS he surrounded himself with very talented people with cool images. As talented as P was and as hard as he worked, he was as perceptive. P knew what to "lift" from and "who" to lift from. I think for those reasons, at the end of the day, all of those cats have to give it up to P cuz P did what he needed to do. No matter who got in the way. Didn't matter. Ever hear Jimmy and Terry talk about P? Still to this day, they praise the shit out of Prince. They don't have to do that. But they do it cuz that's what they truly believe. Jimmy has said more than once that they wouldn't be where they are today if it wasn't for P. He said that they learned so much from working with P. Being around P. His work ethic was off the hook. I think all of them admire P for that.

KidaDynamite said:

x10 - Jesse is cool, Andre and Morris are hot, but Prince is the KING where looks are concerned. For me, P just has it all up and down - to this day. That man is so gifted in the looks department that it is ridiculous. I haven't met any of the others, but Prince's charisma and natural sex appeal are off the charts as well. Someone on mediatakeout.com once said that no one pulled as many dimes as Prince and I think they are right. Jesse might have gotten some ladies back in the day, but judging by his list of conquests, P didn't have anything to worry about.

blackguitaristz said:

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I did not say anything about when P started liking the color Purple. I am saying it is on the front of a "79" album. This is before Jesse came along.

blackguitaristz said:

Hey, thanks Blackguitaristz for answering my question. I think it's cool that you are getting the straight dope from PEOPLE WHO WERE ACTUALLY THERE. Yeah I read an interview with them some years back, Jimmy and Terry do give him his props. Genius is such a weird term. I think he's brilliant and completely irritating at the same time. But I always, always, always liked that he commits and stands behind his decisions wrong or right and keeps it moving. More than his music I dig that about him (though I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of his antics). I also want to know if Prince's synth sound from 1982-86 his "own" creation? Or was he in the studio with so and so, heard something, said ah ha! and then ran with it?

I WILL SAY IT UNTIL THE DAY I DIE.....
JESSE IS 100000 TIMES THE GUITARIST
THAT PRINCE IS!!!!!
DON'T GET ME WRONG.....PRINCE IS DOPE
BUT JESSE WILL "CUT 'EM"!!!!!
TWICE!!!!!

woogiebear said:

Where jesse now?

Alamine said:

IN HIS SKIN!!!!!

Diggin that guitar, it's so cool!

Alamine said:

I GUESS U DIDN'T WATCH THE 2008 GRAMMYS.....CUZ JESSE WAS RIGHT THERE!!!!!
CUTTIN' 'EM W/THAT FLYING V!!!!!

He is still sexy!!

lizlampkin said:

Jesse is a cutiepie! I love me some Jesse!

laurarichardson said:

I think, though, you're missing the point of what is being said. Just because the color purple was in the "Prince" typeface of a mostly blue (other than P's face and back shot) album cover does not mean Prince was "working" the color. that is the point as I read it.

woogiebear said:

better?...maybe, more versatile No!

Zannaloaf said:

Exactly.

blackguitaristz said:

So, Black I coundn't tempt U with a Scooby snack 2 get anymore P stories (Ala- Huckie).....what about 2 scooby snacks?

[Edited 3/28/08 10:32am]

JeriCurl said:

Haha!! Throw in another Scooby snack and we got a deal!...Nah seriously,...As much as I have posted on here about J.J., which to some, it may seem a lot, but in actuality, it's been very little that I've told. I'll mainly speak on things that ties in to stuff dealing with music. Being a musician and a rock guitarist myself, LONG before I had worked with Morris and Andre (Andre, who I had first met when I was 18) I grew up idolizing (after Hendrix, of course) and pattering myself to a large degree from Prince, Dez and Jesse. I could have long ago wrote stuff that I knew quite of few people on here simply didn't know about that I myself was really surprised to hear about. In my pre teens, that's when I got really serious about playing lead guitar and like I said, besides Jimi Hendrix, I was totally into Prince, Dez and Jesse, as guitarists. Not just cats who performed in bands that I really liked. I studied the shit out of their playing, learned their solos, saw the big differences between them as players AND performers. Their dressing styles, just their whole image. They were brothers who were actually living, out their where I could go see them in the flesh. Big difference with Hendrix, who had LONG passed from this earth. Point is Jeri Curl, (I dig your name, by the way, being I have my own tales about wearing that very style), so much I was told, was somewhat surprising to hear, me being someone who had respected these cats as much as I did, growing up. I can't tell u on just HOW MUCH P, Dez and Jesse influenced me. So, I've been hip to be careful on what I speak on and what I shouldn't. Not only for their case but for fans of theirs. Like I said, I'm the next generation behind these cats so I know there are others on here that dug these cats when they were doing their thing. It's totally different me posting something as oppossed to if I was telling u face to face.

Jesse is one of those artists I've always meant to check out, mostly due to the threads and posts on this forum. I still don't have any of his albums, but I'm familiar with and like a few singles from the 80s.

JeriCurl said:

I beg 2 differ!!!!! Jesse had TaMara & produced hits.....got the best vocals EVER outta Vanity!!!!! Got an Lp's worth of material outta SueAnn.....Prince couldn't do diddly w/Ms. Margie Cox (TaMara), couldn't hold Vanity, and NEVER did anything with or for SueAnn!!!!!
Also-A lotta people don't know that JESSE wrote "Nights Like This" by After 7 for the Five Heartbeats sdtk!!!!!
How's that for versatility?????

woogiebear said:

I thought we were talking about Guitar playing, if you look at your own post it says and I qoute "JESSE IS 100000 TIMES THE GUITARIST
THAT PRINCE IS!!!!!" R U feeling okay..what's the problem. Bad day at work.....What does playing guitar have 2 do with Vanity's vocals, TaMara's so-called hits, material from SueAnn, Prince's relationship with SueAnn and the Five Heartbeats sdtk.....I don't see the connection????? Well, I think I've made my point
[Edited 4/2/08 19:46pm]

woogiebear said:

Woogiebear you're right. Jesse would bust prince's ass today playing guitar.

phunkdaddy said:

WORD!!!!! AND THANK YOU!!!! DON'T GET ME WRONG- I LOVE PRINCE'S MUSIC JUST AS MUCH AS ANYONE ON THIS THREAD. BUT GET YOUR HEAD OUT THE MAN'S ASS FOR A SECOND (NOT U PHUNK, BUT OTHERS):
-JESSE SCARED THE HOLY SH*T OUTTA PRINCE WHEN HE "AUDITIONED" FOR THE TIME
-JESSE GIVES PROPS WHERE THEY ARE DUE: HE CITED HENDRIX, HAZEL & ISLEY AS HIS MAIN INFLUENCES. PRINCE SAID SANTANA. GTFOH!!!!! HE DIDN'T GET ALL THAT GUITAR PLAYING FROM JUST CARLOS. AND HE DEFINITELY DIDN'T GET IT FROM JONI MITCHELL EITHER!!!!
-SURE: PRINCE HAS HAD MORE "HITS" THAN JESSE, BUT I STAND ON MY ORIGINAL STATEMENT. AND I FEEL THAT I BACKED JESSE'S "VERSATILITY" FACTOR VERY WELL!!

Great thread Nice pics of Jesse.

It's over...and that was 80-84, and 1995.


Prince probably attended The Grammy's to see The Original Time..


You got people agruing over juicy details about what happened while these brothers are all "cool again".

People talked alot about Prince and Vanity, until Denise appeared on VH1 and said that Prince helped her during her illness...

The music style was Prince.. So, what if he took some ideas on physical appearance? It was all "Electric 80's Hendrix" anyway. At the top of this thread, there is a pic of Jessie with his lips "poked-out/pouting/puckering" (with lipstick) like Prince
[Edited 4/11/08 8:48am]

Linn4days said:

You're dead on about it's all electirc 80's Hendrix. And P NEVER looked as "sweet" as Jesse did before 84. Now during 88, well....P wins hands down in the best draq queen look a like category!

blackguitaristz said:

WOW! Thanks for this little tidbit BG. and I know your info is authentic.

I remember that Prince was more into wearing black and red (James Brown) and long raincoats, and yes bikini underwear. He really didn't start rocking Purple until 1999. By that time The Time was already either rehearsing for their tour or on tour. I am sure when Prince brought out the color purple, he had already met Jesse. Your take on that whole color thing really seems to add up.

I would like to know what song did Jesse get the best vocals out of Vanity.

I would like to hear this song... since I have never really heard good vocals out of Vanity before (since I have only really heard the V6 and singles from Motown releases.)

B...Do you know anything about the infamous interview Jesse did after he left The Time? I think it was called "Prince is an A$$hole" where he rips him apart?

blackguitaristz said:

You have a great way with words bg!

prodigalfan said:

Jesse produced the 'Faraway Eyes' and 'Undress' from the Action Jackson OST.
[Edited 4/14/08 3:24am]