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Thread started 02/26/08 12:20pm

jimmiev1967

what was the best act that andre ever produced

jodi watley was the best one ,but i liked when he did stuff for jermaine stewart, and adam ant as well cool
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Reply #1 posted 02/27/08 10:14am

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The Girls are worth a mention. The 12'' of 'S-E-S-E-X' is heaven!
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Reply #2 posted 02/27/08 10:16am

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GoActive said:

The Girls are worth a mention. The 12'' of 'S-E-S-E-X' is heaven!

where can i find this song?
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Reply #3 posted 02/27/08 11:43am

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I liked "Love/Hate" that Andre did for Pebbles.

The first Pretty Poison album is okay.

I gave the James Ingram song a thumbs down.
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Reply #4 posted 03/02/08 12:54pm

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GoActive said:

The Girls are worth a mention. The 12'' of 'S-E-S-E-X' is heaven!



Oh my god, I love The Girls!! That album is the shit. I also heard he produced an Adam Ant album. I'm curious about that one. Does anyone know what it's like??
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Reply #5 posted 03/02/08 12:55pm

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sextonseven said:

I liked "Love/Hate" that Andre did for Pebbles.

The first Pretty Poison album is okay.

I gave the James Ingram song a thumbs down.



He produced that album?? I recently got that cd and it's pretty good. I'm gonna have to read the liner notes.
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Reply #6 posted 03/02/08 4:40pm

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jimmiev1967 said:

jodi watley was the best one ,but i liked when he did stuff for jermaine stewart, and adam ant as well cool

I agree. Jodi was the best production and songs. Me being a HUGE Adam Ant fan, I was let down by that album. I thought it was whack. That collab with Adam was kinda funny. The way it went down, I mean. Adam intially wanted P to produce him. He had been trying to get in touch with P ever since 83 but P wouldn't fuck with him. So after years of trying, he went to the next best thing, in his mind. And that was Andre. I thought it was silly that P didn't want to produce Adam when P had clearly bit off of Adam, at least visually, during his Controversy and 1999 period.
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Reply #7 posted 03/02/08 5:42pm

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jimmiev1967 said:

jodi watley was the best one ,but i liked when he did stuff for jermaine stewart, and adam ant as well cool

I agree. Jodi was the best production and songs. Me being a HUGE Adam Ant fan, I was let down by that album. I thought it was whack. That collab with Adam was kinda funny. The way it went down, I mean. Adam intially wanted P to produce him. He had been trying to get in touch with P ever since 83 but P wouldn't fuck with him. So after years of trying, he went to the next best thing, in his mind. And that was Andre. I thought it was silly that P didn't want to produce Adam when P had clearly bit off of Adam, at least visually, during his Controversy and 1999 period.
Prince went over to England in 1980 and was hanging out with Steve Strange who was the ring leader of the New Romantics thats where Prince took that whole eduardian look from not Adam Ant.
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Reply #8 posted 03/02/08 6:43pm

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himself.
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Reply #9 posted 03/03/08 8:07am

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dancerella said:

sextonseven said:

I liked "Love/Hate" that Andre did for Pebbles.

The first Pretty Poison album is okay.

I gave the James Ingram song a thumbs down.



He produced that album?? I recently got that cd and it's pretty good. I'm gonna have to read the liner notes.


Not the entire album--maybe four songs. I remember Jade Starling saying in an interview that Andre introduced her to Prince and she sang a track off the album for him.
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Reply #10 posted 03/03/08 8:33am

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Since Jody got a Grammy for that single on the album, I would have to say Jody Watley. Andre was all over that album and it was one of the best dance records of that time. (not that accolades equate to 'good' in every respect).

I didn't care for Andre's collaboration with Adam either.But Vanity dated him right after P, and literally pinched his style too. Dang, that dude thought he was going to have a hit record and all people did was steal his style. Strange, Bowry, and of course the Kemp brothers were huge back then...but mainly over the pond.
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Reply #11 posted 03/03/08 11:21am

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sextonseven said:

dancerella said:




He produced that album?? I recently got that cd and it's pretty good. I'm gonna have to read the liner notes.


Not the entire album--maybe four songs. I remember Jade Starling saying in an interview that Andre introduced her to Prince and she sang a track off the album for him.



do you know which tracks they are?? is "Night time" one of them? that s my jam!!
[Edited 3/3/08 11:22am]
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Reply #12 posted 03/03/08 1:07pm

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dancerella said:

sextonseven said:



Not the entire album--maybe four songs. I remember Jade Starling saying in an interview that Andre introduced her to Prince and she sang a track off the album for him.



do you know which tracks they are?? is "Night time" one of them? that s my jam!!
[Edited 3/3/08 11:22am]


It wasn't any of the three singles.

I just looked it up on discogs.com. Andre did three album tracks: "Closer", "Don't Cry Baby" and "Heaven".
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Reply #13 posted 03/03/08 1:28pm

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His own albums.
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #14 posted 03/03/08 1:49pm

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His own albums.



that's true his albums are the bomb!
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Reply #15 posted 03/03/08 1:50pm

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dancerella said:




do you know which tracks they are?? is "Night time" one of them? that s my jam!!
[Edited 3/3/08 11:22am]


It wasn't any of the three singles.

I just looked it up on discogs.com. Andre did three album tracks: "Closer", "Don't Cry Baby" and "Heaven".



I really like "Closer"!!
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I agree. Jodi was the best production and songs. Me being a HUGE Adam Ant fan, I was let down by that album. I thought it was whack. That collab with Adam was kinda funny. The way it went down, I mean. Adam intially wanted P to produce him. He had been trying to get in touch with P ever since 83 but P wouldn't fuck with him. So after years of trying, he went to the next best thing, in his mind. And that was Andre. I thought it was silly that P didn't want to produce Adam when P had clearly bit off of Adam, at least visually, during his Controversy and 1999 period.
Prince went over to England in 1980 and was hanging out with Steve Strange who was the ring leader of the New Romantics thats where Prince took that whole eduardian look from not Adam Ant.

I know all about that but that wasn't all I was talking about. Anybody that has seen the Goody Two Shoes video and P's Automatic video will see what I'm saying. The women in Adam's video look like Prince girls before P had Prince girls.
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Reply #17 posted 03/03/08 8:52pm

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Released in 1990
For his comeback album and first new release in five years, Adam Ant turned to old Prince crony Andre Cymone, who transformed him into a dance music singer, producing and playing all the instruments on contemporary dance tracks, over which Ant's longtime partner Marco Pirroni played lead guitar and Ant himself contributed appropriately rhythmic vocals. Some of the lyrics had his old flair for mockery, but, like most dance music singers, he came off as only a part of the production, rather than its focus. Nevertheless, the makeover was good for a U.K./U.S. Top 20 hit in "Room at the Top" and respectable chart peaks of number 19 (England) and number 57 (America), a big improvement over 1985, when he looked washed up.
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Reply #19 posted 03/05/08 12:30pm

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tricky2 said:



Released in 1990
For his comeback album and first new release in five years, Adam Ant turned to old Prince crony Andre Cymone, who transformed him into a dance music singer, producing and playing all the instruments on contemporary dance tracks, over which Ant's longtime partner Marco Pirroni played lead guitar and Ant himself contributed appropriately rhythmic vocals. Some of the lyrics had his old flair for mockery, but, like most dance music singers, he came off as only a part of the production, rather than its focus. Nevertheless, the makeover was good for a U.K./U.S. Top 20 hit in "Room at the Top" and respectable chart peaks of number 19 (England) and number 57 (America), a big improvement over 1985, when he looked washed up.



so was this cd any good? did you have it?
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Reply #20 posted 03/05/08 1:57pm

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dancerella said:

tricky2 said:



Released in 1990
For his comeback album and first new release in five years, Adam Ant turned to old Prince crony Andre Cymone, who transformed him into a dance music singer, producing and playing all the instruments on contemporary dance tracks, over which Ant's longtime partner Marco Pirroni played lead guitar and Ant himself contributed appropriately rhythmic vocals. Some of the lyrics had his old flair for mockery, but, like most dance music singers, he came off as only a part of the production, rather than its focus. Nevertheless, the makeover was good for a U.K./U.S. Top 20 hit in "Room at the Top" and respectable chart peaks of number 19 (England) and number 57 (America), a big improvement over 1985, when he looked washed up.



so was this cd any good? did you have it?



Dancerella, thanks for asking about this. It made me get out my cassette (heee heee) and listen to this. I LOVE it.

Andre tracks:

The first track, ‘Room at the top’ starts exactly like ‘Undress’ by Vanity, with that bass riff. It’s a really funky cut, with Adam’s avant garde take on it. 'Be beautiful but shut up'. “Made in Engerland, born and bred’ (part of this is a football chant where England is pronounced ‘Enger-land’. Very cool track. Andre is clearly all over this track though.

The next track ‘Rough Stuff’ is just OK to me. But I like the bass again. ‘Do it ‘til you’re sore’, that kind of thing. It’s pretty cool, but doesn’t grab me.

‘Manners & Physique’ is very Adam to me. I remember at the time people were saying this was written about Vanity. ’Now you quit the drugs and the messing around’. ‘I love it when you tease, and better when you pose’. The music is quite progressive and you’d know it’s Adam if you know Adam’s music.

My fav track is ‘Bright Lights Black Leather’, which was produced by Adam. It’s just really kind of buccaneer-ish and has that fun pirate-feel of that time. I used to play this alot. Although I did like ‘Piccadilly’, which was co-written by Andre. And ‘Anger, Inc.’, which is a slow-ish groove and I could just imagine him doing some kind of ‘bar’ inspired video to this.

Adam went into a bit of seclusion after this.

Also, Melanie Andrews did some backing vocals. If I'm not mistaken, she did the talking intro on Janet's 'What have you done for me lately'.

He thanks Jody Watley in the notes.

Musicians Listed: Guitars-Marco Pirroni
Vocals: Adam Ant
Everything Else: Andre Cymone

lol


BTW, Adam suffered from severe depression and has been treated in a mental institution. He is much better now and coping pretty well. But all of his image was totally all him. He came up with it all himself, and all those involved with him admit to that. For me, ‘Prince Charming’ & ‘Goody Two Shoes’ defined him.

A pretty good effort, but I think Adam was caught up in Prince’s success at that time, like alot of people and wanted a piece of it. wink Like others mentioned, he took the next best thing, which in his eyes must have been Andre.
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Reply #21 posted 03/07/08 1:22am

dancerella

blue22 said:

dancerella said:




so was this cd any good? did you have it?



Dancerella, thanks for asking about this. It made me get out my cassette (heee heee) and listen to this. I LOVE it.

Andre tracks:

The first track, ‘Room at the top’ starts exactly like ‘Undress’ by Vanity, with that bass riff. It’s a really funky cut, with Adam’s avant garde take on it. 'Be beautiful but shut up'. “Made in Engerland, born and bred’ (part of this is a football chant where England is pronounced ‘Enger-land’. Very cool track. Andre is clearly all over this track though.

The next track ‘Rough Stuff’ is just OK to me. But I like the bass again. ‘Do it ‘til you’re sore’, that kind of thing. It’s pretty cool, but doesn’t grab me.

‘Manners & Physique’ is very Adam to me. I remember at the time people were saying this was written about Vanity. ’Now you quit the drugs and the messing around’. ‘I love it when you tease, and better when you pose’. The music is quite progressive and you’d know it’s Adam if you know Adam’s music.

My fav track is ‘Bright Lights Black Leather’, which was produced by Adam. It’s just really kind of buccaneer-ish and has that fun pirate-feel of that time. I used to play this alot. Although I did like ‘Piccadilly’, which was co-written by Andre. And ‘Anger, Inc.’, which is a slow-ish groove and I could just imagine him doing some kind of ‘bar’ inspired video to this.

Adam went into a bit of seclusion after this.

Also, Melanie Andrews did some backing vocals. If I'm not mistaken, she did the talking intro on Janet's 'What have you done for me lately'.

He thanks Jody Watley in the notes.

Musicians Listed: Guitars-Marco Pirroni
Vocals: Adam Ant
Everything Else: Andre Cymone

lol


BTW, Adam suffered from severe depression and has been treated in a mental institution. He is much better now and coping pretty well. But all of his image was totally all him. He came up with it all himself, and all those involved with him admit to that. For me, ‘Prince Charming’ & ‘Goody Two Shoes’ defined him.

A pretty good effort, but I think Adam was caught up in Prince’s success at that time, like alot of people and wanted a piece of it. wink Like others mentioned, he took the next best thing, which in his eyes must have been Andre.


hey thanks for that review. i actualy ordered a copy of it for very cheap on amazon as i'm really curious. i love andre cymone and adam so i'd love to hear what they created together. cheers!!
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Reply #22 posted 03/07/08 4:27am

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jimmiev1967 said:

jodi watley was the best one ,but i liked when he did stuff for jermaine stewart, and adam ant as well cool

I agree. Jodi was the best production and songs. Me being a HUGE Adam Ant fan, I was let down by that album. I thought it was whack. That collab with Adam was kinda funny. The way it went down, I mean. Adam intially wanted P to produce him. He had been trying to get in touch with P ever since 83 but P wouldn't fuck with him. So after years of trying, he went to the next best thing, in his mind. And that was Andre. I thought it was silly that P didn't want to produce Adam when P had clearly bit off of Adam, at least visually, during his Controversy and 1999 period.


That wasn't the first time that an artist wanted Prince to produce their album,but had to settle for Andre instead.In 1983,Evelyn Champagne King wanted Prince to produce her next album.She was a huge fan and wanted to work with him,but she got Andre instead.He contributed several tracks to her 'Face 2 Face' album,including the single "Teenager".Who remembers that song? Got some airplay in early 84.
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Reply #23 posted 03/07/08 6:17am

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I say his ex-wife Jody Watley
then his own!!!!!
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