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Printable1KissAtATyme said: prodigalfan said:  cause there is no way I could have sat there straight faced and listen to him lie like that. My face would have cracked. Actually I think her faced did crumble a bit and then she caught herself.
{{poor Mayte}} I hope she is happy today. Maybe Im in left field somewhere but what did Prince say in that interview that was so hurtful to Mayte? 
I missed that 1.  bryant was asking about the health of the baby. at that time prince wasn't coming clean about the death of the baby. when the question was asked mayte put her head down like she wanted 2 say something, and prince then looked at her with a look like don't u say anything that goes against what i've said. if one could interput the mind control he had on her, u could say it was like the way women of the orient were treated back in the Tsang dynasty (seen but not heard) and could only say something with the permission of their husbands or any other male figure. man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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Jeffiner said: prodigalfan said: One-Who-Must-Remain-Unmentioned from his own mouth answered in an indirect way that the baby was fine... when in fact the baby was dead. On the other hand Mayte around that same time did actually acknowledge that their son was gone; and that they missed their little boy and someday welcome more children. (can't remember the exact wording). So when One-Who-Must-Remain-Unmentioned was gave interviews to Oprah, and in particular the Gumble interview... (which I was actually referring to), One-Who-Must-Remain-Unmentioned did all the talking/lying while Mayte sat there with a smile frozen on her face... when her heart had to be breaking. I don't fault One-Who-Must-Remain-Unmentioned, but I do have deep sympathy for Mayte in that situation. Why do you think having sympathy for Mayte mean automatic criticism for One-Who-Must-Remain-Unmentioned?  Mayte has said in an interview since, that they were both in denial. The Oprah i/v was only a week after the baby's death, (which Mayte enouraged Prince to continue with) and P had convinced himself that the baby's soul would come back etc. He didn't want to talk about it. I wish everyone would be more understanding on this subject. As I've said in another post, hopefully none of us have experienced anything like this, because who knows how we would react in such heartbreaking and devasting circumstances. There can't be anything much worse. Rant over  I still don't understand why me expressing sympathy for Mayte is in some way criticism for One-Who-Must-Remain-Unmentioned,. You know, we don't have to pick sides. {{{poor Mayte}}} there I said it again. I guess you will also interpret that as criticism for One-Who-Must-Remain-Unmentioned,.
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Jeffiner said: fcukthepolice said: Exactly; manners cost nothing. Shyness is no excuse for rudeness That's funny, I read a post recently from a couple who met him as he walked through the adjoining bar to the aftershow in London. He stopped and chatted to the bar staff, and to the couple. Apparently he was really friendly and down to earth! Maybe he behaves differently when he's in the UK????? Stories, stories.... A friend of mine works for the community and his direct collegue's girlfriend used to be a Prince dancer. He's telling all the time what a nice man Prince is. So he also behaves differently in the Netherlands. This guy's girlfriend is terminal ill and Prince visits her everytime he is in the neighbourhood. | |
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prodigalfan said: Jeffiner said: Mayte has said in an interview since, that they were both in denial. The Oprah i/v was only a week after the baby's death, (which Mayte enouraged Prince to continue with) and P had convinced himself that the baby's soul would come back etc. He didn't want to talk about it. I wish everyone would be more understanding on this subject. As I've said in another post, hopefully none of us have experienced anything like this, because who knows how we would react in such heartbreaking and devasting circumstances. There can't be anything much worse. Rant over I still don't understand why me expressing sympathy for Mayte is in some way criticism for One-Who-Must-Remain-Unmentioned,. You know, we don't have to pick sides. poor Mayte there I said it again. I guess you will also interpret that as criticism for One-Who-Must-Remain-Unmentioned,.
Sorry, I understand what you're saying! I wasn't only responding to your post, but more 'in general' to some of the other posts on here too, saying he 'lied' etc!  | |
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Jeffiner said: prodigalfan said: I still don't understand why me expressing sympathy for Mayte is in some way criticism for One-Who-Must-Remain-Unmentioned,. You know, we don't have to pick sides. poor Mayte there I said it again. I guess you will also interpret that as criticism for One-Who-Must-Remain-Unmentioned,.
Sorry, I understand what you're saying! I wasn't only responding to your post, but more 'in general' to some of the other posts on here too, saying he 'lied' etc! My problem with One-Who-Must-Remain-Unmentioned, is not that he chose to handle media questions the way he did... but because it is my belief that Mayte was also ask to join in when her body language and facial expressions indicate that she was not comfortable at all with that. The interview with Oprah makes me cringe because I know after the fact that One-Who-Must-Remain-Unmentioned,. just was totally in denial or bold faced lied... but at least Mayte was not put on stage to play along... she was left out of the picture so that she could openly grieve ... break down and cry in sorrow if she felt like it...not stiffle back grieving because the cameras were rolling. I guess that is the point... many celebrities do things that I or you couldn't do like flat out lie to the media... but to get your loved ones in on it.. your mom, wife, kids to join in and actively participate with the deception... that I have a problem with. "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: 1KissAtATyme said: Maybe Im in left field somewhere but what did Prince say in that interview that was so hurtful to Mayte?
I missed that 1. bryant was asking about the health of the baby. at that time prince wasn't coming clean about the death of the baby. when the question was asked mayte put her head down like she wanted 2 say something, and prince then looked at her with a look like don't u say anything that goes against what i've said. if one could interput the mind control he had on her, u could say it was like the way women of the orient were treated back in the Tsang dynasty (seen but not heard) and could only say something with the permission of their husbands or any other male figure. I never saw the bryant interview but it seems so sad that whole situation. I cant look down on Prince for being so controlling of Mayte...I believe that people greive differently and Im sure that behind closed doors Prince was a mess..as was Mayte. No one ever truley gets over the loss of a child. So, even though its been years since the tragic death of Gregory the pain is still there and will be with the both of them the rest of thier lives. I sympathised with Mayte because as a mother I couldnt imagine loosing my child then days later going on a celebrity interview and not crack. I think we dont give her credit for really keeping it together after her only child passed days before. Thats when I knew two things about the relationship between Mayte and Prince were true. 1- That Prince was in total control of the relationship and made all the decisions. 2- Mayte truley loved Prince so much so that she obeyed him and trusted him even in the face of horrible grief.Maybe it was blind love...or maybe it was her own way of greiving- To let her mind go and let her husband control and think for her. But I truley belief that Prince's grip was so strong/hurtful to her that for her sake it was best the relationship ended. Not to mention Mani's comming into the picture. 
In more ways then one was that relationship like the Tsang dynasty. That dynasty was the most eccentric/powerful time in Chinese power and affluence. It was also the most horrible oppression for women as well. So if u ever watch "The Curse of the Golden Flower" (a must see for history/chinese culture buffs and asian film lovers) u see first hand how it was. Golden on the outside...and corrupt and diseased on the in. Thats how I felt Prince and Mayte's relationship turned out to be. We all say "What a beautiful couple!"because all we see is the outside. It was such a good front that we couldnt even see anything wrong in the middle of such a terrible, tragic event. But what was going on behind closed doors was horrible and sad. U want to know the secreat of love and happiness? Love GOD with all your heart, mind soul and strength. And love your neighboor as yourself. | |
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1KissAtATyme said: L4OATheOriginal said: bryant was asking about the health of the baby. at that time prince wasn't coming clean about the death of the baby. when the question was asked mayte put her head down like she wanted 2 say something, and prince then looked at her with a look like don't u say anything that goes against what i've said. if one could interput the mind control he had on her, u could say it was like the way women of the orient were treated back in the Tsang dynasty (seen but not heard) and could only say something with the permission of their husbands or any other male figure. I never saw the bryant interview but it seems so sad that whole situation. I cant look down on Prince for being so controlling of Mayte...I believe that people greive differently and Im sure that behind closed doors Prince was a mess..as was Mayte. No one ever truley gets over the loss of a child. So, even though its been years since the tragic death of Gregory the pain is still there and will be with the both of them the rest of thier lives. I sympathised with Mayte because as a mother I couldnt imagine loosing my child then days later going on a celebrity interview and not crack. I think we dont give her credit for really keeping it together after her only child passed days before. Thats when I knew two things about the relationship between Mayte and Prince were true. 1- That Prince was in total control of the relationship and made all the decisions. 2- Mayte truley loved Prince so much so that she obeyed him and trusted him even in the face of horrible grief.Maybe it was blind love...or maybe it was her own way of greiving- To let her mind go and let her husband control and think for her. But I truley belief that Prince's grip was so strong/hurtful to her that for her sake it was best the relationship ended. Not to mention Mani's comming into the picture.
In more ways then one was that relationship like the Tsang dynasty. That dynasty was the most eccentric/powerful time in Chinese power and affluence. It was also the most horrible oppression for women as well. So if u ever watch "The Curse of the Golden Flower" (a must see for history/chinese culture buffs and asian film lovers) u see first hand how it was. Golden on the outside...and corrupt and diseased on the in. Thats how I felt Prince and Mayte's relationship turned out to be. We all say "What a beautiful couple!"because all we see is the outside. It was such a good front that we couldnt even see anything wrong in the middle of such a terrible, tragic event. But what was going on behind closed doors was horrible and sad. 
I agree with your post. And yes, I think Mayte is better off without him. Sorry to say this... but sometimes even someone you really love and they love you is not the One for you. "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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The baby didn't pass away, immediately after birth. Both Mayte, and Prince, had a newborn, with severe deformities, that were not survivable. Having to deal with doctors, hospital staff, intimidating medical equipment in the PICU, and a dying baby with a chromosomal abnormality,,,,,etc, did not need to be shared with the public.
It's not easy to explain how painful it had to be for them, much less discuss it publicly with an interviewer. | |
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1KissAtATyme said: L4OATheOriginal said: bryant was asking about the health of the baby. at that time prince wasn't coming clean about the death of the baby. when the question was asked mayte put her head down like she wanted 2 say something, and prince then looked at her with a look like don't u say anything that goes against what i've said. if one could interput the mind control he had on her, u could say it was like the way women of the orient were treated back in the Tsang dynasty (seen but not heard) and could only say something with the permission of their husbands or any other male figure. I never saw the bryant interview but it seems so sad that whole situation. I cant look down on Prince for being so controlling of Mayte...I believe that people greive differently and Im sure that behind closed doors Prince was a mess..as was Mayte. No one ever truley gets over the loss of a child. So, even though its been years since the tragic death of Gregory the pain is still there and will be with the both of them the rest of thier lives. I sympathised with Mayte because as a mother I couldnt imagine loosing my child then days later going on a celebrity interview and not crack. I think we dont give her credit for really keeping it together after her only child passed days before. Thats when I knew two things about the relationship between Mayte and Prince were true. 1- That Prince was in total control of the relationship and made all the decisions. 2- Mayte truley loved Prince so much so that she obeyed him and trusted him even in the face of horrible grief.Maybe it was blind love...or maybe it was her own way of greiving- To let her mind go and let her husband control and think for her. But I truley belief that Prince's grip was so strong/hurtful to her that for her sake it was best the relationship ended. Not to mention Mani's comming into the picture.
In more ways then one was that relationship like the Tsang dynasty. That dynasty was the most eccentric/powerful time in Chinese power and affluence. It was also the most horrible oppression for women as well. So if u ever watch "The Curse of the Golden Flower" (a must see for history/chinese culture buffs and asian film lovers) u see first hand how it was. Golden on the outside...and corrupt and diseased on the in. Thats how I felt Prince and Mayte's relationship turned out to be. We all say "What a beautiful couple!"because all we see is the outside. It was such a good front that we couldnt even see anything wrong in the middle of such a terrible, tragic event. But what was going on behind closed doors was horrible and sad. Yep, looking at the Purple dove interview DVD, confirmed she took his direction in what to speak. He didn't even want her to tell Oprah how romantic he is. | |
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xplnyrslf said: The baby didn't pass away, immediately after birth. Both Mayte, and Prince, had a newborn, with severe deformities, that were not survivable. Having to deal with doctors, hospital staff, intimidating medical equipment in the PICU, and a dying baby with a chromosomal abnormality,,,,,etc, did not need to be shared with the public.
It's not easy to explain how painful it had to be for them, much less discuss it publicly with an interviewer. but he did discuss it... just didn't tell the truth.  I dunno, I personally would have told them "no comment" and move on to the next question.
I guess hindsight maybe 20/20 but if he had simply said no comment... that interview would have blended with the others over the years... but the way he handled it makes it a memorable interview. "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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prodigalfan said: xplnyrslf said: The baby didn't pass away, immediately after birth. Both Mayte, and Prince, had a newborn, with severe deformities, that were not survivable. Having to deal with doctors, hospital staff, intimidating medical equipment in the PICU, and a dying baby with a chromosomal abnormality,,,,,etc, did not need to be shared with the public.
It's not easy to explain how painful it had to be for them, much less discuss it publicly with an interviewer. but he did discuss it... just didn't tell the truth. I dunno, I personally would have told them "no comment" and move on to the next question.
I guess hindsight maybe 20/20 but if he had simply said no comment... that interview would have blended with the others over the years... but the way he handled it makes it a memorable interview. NO ONE should judge him over this. He handled it the best he could, at the time, considering they were still suffering the loss. Everyone has their own means of mourning death. He probably would have broken down himself, had he discussed it. Mayte, keeping somewhat control, helped him get through the interview. | |
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.....17 days later..... 
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.....17 days later.....
blame Imago..... [Edited 11/30/07 20:34pm] This is exactly what I thought!  surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
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I think Tommy is probably a walking STD but he does have a certain je ne sais quois about him. (I think because I'm a sucker for tattoos and earrings...I love Dennis Rodman, but again, totally skanky.) Prince seems way too prissy. Could never get all the Mayte adoration...she's the most overrated Prince "girlfriend" imo.
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xplnyrslf said: prodigalfan said: but he did discuss it... just didn't tell the truth. I dunno, I personally would have told them "no comment" and move on to the next question.
I guess hindsight maybe 20/20 but if he had simply said no comment... that interview would have blended with the others over the years... but the way he handled it makes it a memorable interview. NO ONE should judge him over this. He handled it the best he could, at the time, considering they were still suffering the loss. Everyone has their own means of mourning death. He probably would have broken down himself, had he discussed it. Mayte, keeping somewhat control, helped him get through the interview. EXACTLY - this is what I've been trying to say, on the previous page. It amazes me that people keep talking about him 'lying' and can't see past this to the pain they must have felt at that time. | |
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1KissAtATyme said: L4OATheOriginal said: bryant was asking about the health of the baby. at that time prince wasn't coming clean about the death of the baby. when the question was asked mayte put her head down like she wanted 2 say something, and prince then looked at her with a look like don't u say anything that goes against what i've said. if one could interput the mind control he had on her, u could say it was like the way women of the orient were treated back in the Tsang dynasty (seen but not heard) and could only say something with the permission of their husbands or any other male figure. I never saw the bryant interview but it seems so sad that whole situation. I cant look down on Prince for being so controlling of Mayte...I believe that people greive differently and Im sure that behind closed doors Prince was a mess..as was Mayte. No one ever truley gets over the loss of a child. So, even though its been years since the tragic death of Gregory the pain is still there and will be with the both of them the rest of thier lives. I sympathised with Mayte because as a mother I couldnt imagine loosing my child then days later going on a celebrity interview and not crack. I think we dont give her credit for really keeping it together after her only child passed days before. Thats when I knew two things about the relationship between Mayte and Prince were true. 1- That Prince was in total control of the relationship and made all the decisions. 2- Mayte truley loved Prince so much so that she obeyed him and trusted him even in the face of horrible grief.Maybe it was blind love...or maybe it was her own way of greiving- To let her mind go and let her husband control and think for her. But I truley belief that Prince's grip was so strong/hurtful to her that for her sake it was best the relationship ended. Not to mention Mani's comming into the picture.
In more ways then one was that relationship like the Tsang dynasty. That dynasty was the most eccentric/powerful time in Chinese power and affluence. It was also the most horrible oppression for women as well. So if u ever watch "The Curse of the Golden Flower" (a must see for history/chinese culture buffs and asian film lovers) u see first hand how it was. Golden on the outside...and corrupt and diseased on the in. Thats how I felt Prince and Mayte's relationship turned out to be. We all say "What a beautiful couple!"because all we see is the outside. It was such a good front that we couldnt even see anything wrong in the middle of such a terrible, tragic event. But what was going on behind closed doors was horrible and sad. I have a feeling that Mayte was a much stronger person, and more equal in the relationship than she came across and people give her credit for. In an interview Prince said that when they first started working together she was the only person who wouldn't put up with any of his bs, and if he was being a 'jerk' she would tell him he was being a jerk. I think he really respected and liked her for this - obviously! Also, Tommy Lee said in his autobiography something along the lines of 'you don't ever want to cross or have an argument with a Puerto Rican woman I can tell you'! In the song 'Man of War' Prince says "Why U screaming at me?". I think she definitely had her own mind and stood up for herself. Maybe she just played along with the submissive image in public, standing by her husband?! I think in the end they just drifted apart after the death of the baby, and in fact she said that much in an i/v, that it can bring some couples closer together, but in their case it pulled them apart. P throwing himself back into work etc. I think they really loved each other, although Mayte was VERY young when she and Prince began working together and never really had the chance to discover life on her own, maybe she needed to do that in the end. I still think it would be nice if they got back together, and came full circle, but who knows? I think P needs to find a woman in her late 20's / early 30's this time around, who knows herself and can be his 'equal', then they can have a baby and live happily ever after.....  | |
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Jeffiner said: 1KissAtATyme said: I never saw the bryant interview but it seems so sad that whole situation. I cant look down on Prince for being so controlling of Mayte...I believe that people greive differently and Im sure that behind closed doors Prince was a mess..as was Mayte. No one ever truley gets over the loss of a child. So, even though its been years since the tragic death of Gregory the pain is still there and will be with the both of them the rest of thier lives. I sympathised with Mayte because as a mother I couldnt imagine loosing my child then days later going on a celebrity interview and not crack. I think we dont give her credit for really keeping it together after her only child passed days before. Thats when I knew two things about the relationship between Mayte and Prince were true. 1- That Prince was in total control of the relationship and made all the decisions. 2- Mayte truley loved Prince so much so that she obeyed him and trusted him even in the face of horrible grief.Maybe it was blind love...or maybe it was her own way of greiving- To let her mind go and let her husband control and think for her. But I truley belief that Prince's grip was so strong/hurtful to her that for her sake it was best the relationship ended. Not to mention Mani's comming into the picture.
In more ways then one was that relationship like the Tsang dynasty. That dynasty was the most eccentric/powerful time in Chinese power and affluence. It was also the most horrible oppression for women as well. So if u ever watch "The Curse of the Golden Flower" (a must see for history/chinese culture buffs and asian film lovers) u see first hand how it was. Golden on the outside...and corrupt and diseased on the in. Thats how I felt Prince and Mayte's relationship turned out to be. We all say "What a beautiful couple!"because all we see is the outside. It was such a good front that we couldnt even see anything wrong in the middle of such a terrible, tragic event. But what was going on behind closed doors was horrible and sad. I have a feeling that Mayte was a much stronger person, and more equal in the relationship than she came across and people give her credit for. In an interview Prince said that when they first started working together she was the only person who wouldn't put up with any of his bs, and if he was being a 'jerk' she would tell him he was being a jerk. I think he really respected and liked her for this - obviously! Also, Tommy Lee said in his autobiography something along the lines of 'you don't ever want to cross or have an argument with a Puerto Rican woman I can tell you'! In the song 'Man of War' Prince says "Why U screaming at me?". I think she definitely had her own mind and stood up for herself. Maybe she just played along with the submissive image in public, standing by her husband?! I think in the end they just drifted apart after the death of the baby, and in fact she said that much in an i/v, that it can bring some couples closer together, but in their case it pulled them apart. P throwing himself back into work etc. I think they really loved each other, although Mayte was VERY young when she and Prince began working together and never really had the chance to discover life on her own, maybe she needed to do that in the end. I still think it would be nice if they got back together, and came full circle, but who knows? I think P needs to find a woman in her late 20's / early 30's this time around, who knows herself and can be his 'equal', then they can have a baby and live happily ever after..... YEAH RIGHT! now way. Prince totally dominated her! you live in fantasy land | |
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Oh hello again, are you having a nice day? Fantasy land eh? That's your opinion! | |
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Jeffiner said: Oh hello again, are you having a nice day? Fantasy land eh? That's your opinion!
You opinion is that the sun shines out of Prince's arse! | |
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fcukthepolice said: Jeffiner said: Oh hello again, are you having a nice day? Fantasy land eh? That's your opinion!
You opinion is that the sun shines out of Prince's arse! U wanna fight?  Bit rude don't you think? See my sig! My opinion is my opinion and should be respected as much as anyone else's opinion. Thanks! | |
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xplnyrslf said: prodigalfan said: but he did discuss it... just didn't tell the truth. I dunno, I personally would have told them "no comment" and move on to the next question.
I guess hindsight maybe 20/20 but if he had simply said no comment... that interview would have blended with the others over the years... but the way he handled it makes it a memorable interview. NO ONE should judge him over this. He handled it the best he could, at the time, considering they were still suffering the loss. Everyone has their own means of mourning death. He probably would have broken down himself, had he discussed it. Mayte, keeping somewhat control, helped him get through the interview. judged or not... his false responses did the opposite of what I am sure was his intention... to take the focus off of this. I am stating an observation...
Oh, and I really do stand by this... don't pull family unwillingly into deceit. Bad for the relationship. "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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prodigalfan said: xplnyrslf said: NO ONE should judge him over this. He handled it the best he could, at the time, considering they were still suffering the loss. Everyone has their own means of mourning death. He probably would have broken down himself, had he discussed it. Mayte, keeping somewhat control, helped him get through the interview. judged or not... his false responses did the opposite of what I am sure was his intention... to take the focus off of this. I am stating an observation...
Oh, and I really do stand by this... don't pull family unwillingly into deceit. Bad for the relationship. The relationship was bad. It was not a partnership. Mayte was prince's puppet; sad but true. He dictated what she wore, ate and where she went. | |
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1KissAtATyme said: L4OATheOriginal said: bryant was asking about the health of the baby. at that time prince wasn't coming clean about the death of the baby. when the question was asked mayte put her head down like she wanted 2 say something, and prince then looked at her with a look like don't u say anything that goes against what i've said. if one could interput the mind control he had on her, u could say it was like the way women of the orient were treated back in the Tsang dynasty (seen but not heard) and could only say something with the permission of their husbands or any other male figure. I never saw the bryant interview but it seems so sad that whole situation. I cant look down on Prince for being so controlling of Mayte...I believe that people greive differently and Im sure that behind closed doors Prince was a mess..as was Mayte. No one ever truley gets over the loss of a child. So, even though its been years since the tragic death of Gregory the pain is still there and will be with the both of them the rest of thier lives. I sympathised with Mayte because as a mother I couldnt imagine loosing my child then days later going on a celebrity interview and not crack. I think we dont give her credit for really keeping it together after her only child passed days before. Thats when I knew two things about the relationship between Mayte and Prince were true. 1- That Prince was in total control of the relationship and made all the decisions. 2- Mayte truley loved Prince so much so that she obeyed him and trusted him even in the face of horrible grief.Maybe it was blind love...or maybe it was her own way of greiving- To let her mind go and let her husband control and think for her. But I truley belief that Prince's grip was so strong/hurtful to her that for her sake it was best the relationship ended. Not to mention Mani's comming into the picture.
In more ways then one was that relationship like the Tsang dynasty. That dynasty was the most eccentric/powerful time in Chinese power and affluence. It was also the most horrible oppression for women as well. So if u ever watch "The Curse of the Golden Flower" (a must see for history/chinese culture buffs and asian film lovers) u see first hand how it was. Golden on the outside...and corrupt and diseased on the in. Thats how I felt Prince and Mayte's relationship turned out to be. We all say "What a beautiful couple!"because all we see is the outside. It was such a good front that we couldnt even see anything wrong in the middle of such a terrible, tragic event. But what was going on behind closed doors was horrible and sad. i saw it and it was beautifully filmed. man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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Okay I know I'm being a bitch here, but
*truly *believe sorry 
also that movie sounds interesting  "My bounty is as boundless as the sea,
My love as deep; the more I give to thee, The more I have, for both are infinite." ~Juliet | |
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xplnyrslf said: prodigalfan said: but he did discuss it... just didn't tell the truth. I dunno, I personally would have told them "no comment" and move on to the next question.
I guess hindsight maybe 20/20 but if he had simply said no comment... that interview would have blended with the others over the years... but the way he handled it makes it a memorable interview. NO ONE should judge him over this. He handled it the best he could, at the time, considering they were still suffering the loss. Everyone has their own means of mourning death. He probably would have broken down himself, had he discussed it. Mayte, keeping somewhat control, helped him get through the interview. That's true. It's nobody's business! Not even us fans! | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: 1KissAtATyme said: I never saw the bryant interview but it seems so sad that whole situation. I cant look down on Prince for being so controlling of Mayte...I believe that people greive differently and Im sure that behind closed doors Prince was a mess..as was Mayte. No one ever truley gets over the loss of a child. So, even though its been years since the tragic death of Gregory the pain is still there and will be with the both of them the rest of thier lives. I sympathised with Mayte because as a mother I couldnt imagine loosing my child then days later going on a celebrity interview and not crack. I think we dont give her credit for really keeping it together after her only child passed days before. Thats when I knew two things about the relationship between Mayte and Prince were true. 1- That Prince was in total control of the relationship and made all the decisions. 2- Mayte truley loved Prince so much so that she obeyed him and trusted him even in the face of horrible grief.Maybe it was blind love...or maybe it was her own way of greiving- To let her mind go and let her husband control and think for her. But I truley belief that Prince's grip was so strong/hurtful to her that for her sake it was best the relationship ended. Not to mention Mani's comming into the picture.
In more ways then one was that relationship like the Tsang dynasty. That dynasty was the most eccentric/powerful time in Chinese power and affluence. It was also the most horrible oppression for women as well. So if u ever watch "The Curse of the Golden Flower" (a must see for history/chinese culture buffs and asian film lovers) u see first hand how it was. Golden on the outside...and corrupt and diseased on the in. Thats how I felt Prince and Mayte's relationship turned out to be. We all say "What a beautiful couple!"because all we see is the outside. It was such a good front that we couldnt even see anything wrong in the middle of such a terrible, tragic event. But what was going on behind closed doors was horrible and sad. i saw it and it was beautifully filmed. Wasent it good??
Now I wanna see it all over again!  U want to know the secreat of love and happiness? Love GOD with all your heart, mind soul and strength. And love your neighboor as yourself. | |
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This is from that Bryant Gumble show. Can't remember having seen it. Prince looks different here. I really don't want to know what stress they have had. To make such a difficult decision for this baby they wanted to badly. When my son got born he was heaving all the time because he had swallowed amniotic fluid, I was so afraid he would choke. I remember lively that I was incredibly concerned only seeing this, you're already so bonded with this creature you've never seen before. I cannot imagine how I would have acted if I had to decide to end his life. | |
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CJanssen said:
This is from that Bryant Gumble show. Can't remember having seen it. Prince looks different here. I really don't want to know what stress they have had. To make such a difficult decision for this baby they wanted to badly. When my son got born he was heaving all the time because he had swallowed amniotic fluid, I was so afraid he would choke. I remember lively that I was incredibly concerned only seeing this, you're already so bonded with this creature you've never seen before. I cannot imagine how I would have acted if I had to decide to end his life. Must have been devastating. Thanks for the pic, never seen this before! | |
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CJanssen said:
This is from that Bryant Gumble show. Can't remember having seen it. Prince looks different here. I really don't want to know what stress they have had. To make such a difficult decision for this baby they wanted to badly. When my son got born he was heaving all the time because he had swallowed amniotic fluid, I was so afraid he would choke. I remember lively that I was incredibly concerned only seeing this, you're already so bonded with this creature you've never seen before. I cannot imagine how I would have acted if I had to decide to end his life. He looks incredibly sad almost like he was blind sided. Gumble was his friend/fan... why not say I won't be discussing the baby... Gumble asks the anticipated question, gets the "no comment" and moves on with the rest of the interview. I bet ?rince doesn't answer questions about his departed family members... ex wives... why on earth would he give any question about something so new, so painful. I would not have answered that question... people would have understood... most people are baffled to why do an interview, and answer questions that were no one's business... then tell a story that would eventually, inevitably be proven to be false....  I guess he really really did believe that his baby would somehow come back to them....
"Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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