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Reply #30 posted 10/30/02 11:32am

queen627

She signed one of his first confidentiality things. And I probably remember more then she does remember she spent most of her time high. Nikki Didn't know what hit him.The ring that Vanity sported she bought herself. She was engaged to a lot of men.
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Reply #31 posted 11/02/02 5:42pm

katrina

Batdance said:

I think that Vanity is the most beautiful woman who was in Prince's life. Unfortunately, she was heavily into drugs at the same time when Prince was determined to get the Purple Rain movie done.

It think he had to choose between giving his attention to helping his woman overcome her problems or to getting his movie done. He obviously chose his movie over his woman and she fell down so low that she nearly died.

I doubt if Prince and Vanity (Denise) will ever get back together as a couple.

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Never say never!
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Reply #32 posted 11/02/02 5:48pm

katrina

queen627 said:

Denise was a groupie you'd be hard press to find anyone she hadn't had sex with.n She follow Rick around. If he was made it was because of she became to busy to do things for Rick. She never dated Prince. During the 1980's and even now a woman can be 100 time better looking then Denice but be called to ethnic looking. Or not exotic looking enough.If she had be just a few shades tanner you would not care about Deniece.


Denise was far from being a groupie! Yes she did date Prince. Denise is still very beautiful! She has a certain aura about her.
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Reply #33 posted 11/02/02 5:51pm

katrina

queen627 said:

She signed one of his first confidentiality things. And I probably remember more then she does remember she spent most of her time high. Nikki Didn't know what hit him.The ring that Vanity sported she bought herself. She was engaged to a lot of men.


Yes, she had a drug problem but that doesn't mean she lost her memory. I honestly don't believe she was engaged to alot of men.
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Reply #34 posted 11/02/02 6:17pm

lovebizzare

katrina said:

queen627 said:

Denise was a groupie you'd be hard press to find anyone she hadn't had sex with.n She follow Rick around. If he was made it was because of she became to busy to do things for Rick. She never dated Prince. During the 1980's and even now a woman can be 100 time better looking then Denice but be called to ethnic looking. Or not exotic looking enough.If she had be just a few shades tanner you would not care about Deniece.


Denise was far from being a groupie! Yes she did date Prince. Denise is still very beautiful! She has a certain aura about her.




You should see the things Queen wrote about Susannah Melvoin & Wendy.
[This message was edited Sat Nov 2 21:38:09 PST 2002 by lovebizzare]
~KiKi
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Reply #35 posted 11/05/02 10:14am

queen627

If you think I am crazy then don't believe me. Vanity was doing hardcore drugs with Rick. And free basing does do serious brain damage. Have't you heard this is your brain on drugs frying pan senerio. What would I gain I know the truth and the thing that gets to me is that you all would rather believe what's in the tabloids then the truth. I never said Vanity was a bad person. She was a junkie. I am happy to see she has cleaned up her life. But she made my life miserable. If it hurts your feelings to hear the truth don't ask.But I can comfirm the truth because of some serious secrets I have to live with the rest of my life. Vanity is brave. Prince is not a wimp. He wouldn't want you all to know the truth. What's the line: You can't handle the truth.Love its all good.It amazes me how you can get upset over a comment I know for fact of people you have never meet.I have no problem.No one asked me right? If you only knew.
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Reply #36 posted 11/05/02 11:35am

katrina

queen627 said:

If you think I am crazy then don't believe me. Vanity was doing hardcore drugs with Rick. And free basing does do serious brain damage. Have't you heard this is your brain on drugs frying pan senerio. What would I gain I know the truth and the thing that gets to me is that you all would rather believe what's in the tabloids then the truth. I never said Vanity was a bad person. She was a junkie. I am happy to see she has cleaned up her life. But she made my life miserable. If it hurts your feelings to hear the truth don't ask.But I can comfirm the truth because of some serious secrets I have to live with the rest of my life. Vanity is brave. Prince is not a wimp. He wouldn't want you all to know the truth. What's the line: You can't handle the truth.Love its all good.It amazes me how you can get upset over a comment I know for fact of people you have never meet.I have no problem.No one asked me right? If you only knew.


I'll say again it was later after Vanity left Prince that she got into heavy drugs.
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Reply #37 posted 11/05/02 2:47pm

lovebizzare

queen627 said:

If you think I am crazy then don't believe me. Vanity was doing hardcore drugs with Rick. And free basing does do serious brain damage. Have't you heard this is your brain on drugs frying pan senerio. What would I gain I know the truth and the thing that gets to me is that you all would rather believe what's in the tabloids then the truth. I never said Vanity was a bad person. She was a junkie. I am happy to see she has cleaned up her life. But she made my life miserable. If it hurts your feelings to hear the truth don't ask.But I can comfirm the truth because of some serious secrets I have to live with the rest of my life. Vanity is brave. Prince is not a wimp. He wouldn't want you all to know the truth. What's the line: You can't handle the truth.Love its all good.It amazes me how you can get upset over a comment I know for fact of people you have never meet.I have no problem.No one asked me right? If you only knew.



Calm down,I didn't mean that in in a bad way and I do happen to belive you. I'm glad that you came on here and told the truth. It does not hurt my feelings at all to see the stuff you write, for me it's about the music, not the people. (I.E. Vanity, Wendy)
~KiKi
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Reply #38 posted 11/05/02 6:44pm

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queen627 said:

If you think I am crazy then don't believe me. Vanity was doing hardcore drugs with Rick. And free basing does do serious brain damage. Have't you heard this is your brain on drugs frying pan senerio. What would I gain I know the truth and the thing that gets to me is that you all would rather believe what's in the tabloids then the truth. I never said Vanity was a bad person. She was a junkie. I am happy to see she has cleaned up her life. But she made my life miserable. If it hurts your feelings to hear the truth don't ask.But I can comfirm the truth because of some serious secrets I have to live with the rest of my life. Vanity is brave. Prince is not a wimp. He wouldn't want you all to know the truth. What's the line: You can't handle the truth.Love its all good.It amazes me how you can get upset over a comment I know for fact of people you have never meet.I have no problem.No one asked me right? If you only knew.

How did she make your life miserable?
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Reply #39 posted 11/06/02 6:26pm

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katrina said:

queen627 said:

If you think I am crazy then don't believe me. Vanity was doing hardcore drugs with Rick. And free basing does do serious brain damage. Have't you heard this is your brain on drugs frying pan senerio. What would I gain I know the truth and the thing that gets to me is that you all would rather believe what's in the tabloids then the truth. I never said Vanity was a bad person. She was a junkie. I am happy to see she has cleaned up her life. But she made my life miserable. If it hurts your feelings to hear the truth don't ask.But I can comfirm the truth because of some serious secrets I have to live with the rest of my life. Vanity is brave. Prince is not a wimp. He wouldn't want you all to know the truth. What's the line: You can't handle the truth.Love its all good.It amazes me how you can get upset over a comment I know for fact of people you have never meet.I have no problem.No one asked me right? If you only knew.


I'll say again it was later after Vanity left Prince that she got into heavy drugs.

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Vanity has said that she was using drugs when she was with Prince but, he was not aware of her drug use. She said a lot of people were using drugs around him without his knowledge. I think this is in DMSR or the book by Liz Jones.
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Reply #40 posted 11/06/02 9:44pm

Natasha

What I think is yeah he Knew about Her Using but not the Extent to which she was addicted maybe. Also,probably the ones around him didn't want to Lose their Jobs if they kept it from him since he was Anti-Drug.
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Reply #41 posted 11/07/02 2:47am

DavidEye

queen627 said:

NikkiDarling said:

lovebizzare said:

NikkiDarling said:

The publication of Denise's book keeps getting pushed back. That makes me think that the publishers may be having a problem with it. I read some excerpts on her website, and if the excerpts are any indication of what the book will be like, it's not going to sell.

The publishers are probably nudging her to spice it up, get the dirty laundry on her relationships with Rick James, Prince and Nikki Sixx in there. Rick James is also working on a book, so it will be interesting to see what Rick says about Vanity and what Vanity says about Rick. Rick will probably be taking some potshots at Prince in his book.



She was with Rick James?


Yes, Vanity was with Rick James before she became Prince's girlfriend. The story I heard is that Rick had been promising Vanity that he would help her get an album out. Rick kept promising, but never delivered on the album for Vanity.

So, she met Prince backstage at some awards show and got together with him. Vanity left Rick James and went with Prince. Prince made the same promise that Rick did to help Vanity get an album out. Prince kept his promise to help her and wrote and produced the Vanity 6 album.

Rick James later accused Prince of stealing his idea of a sexy girl group from his Mary Jane Girls.



The ironic thing is,after she split with Prince,Vanity signed to Motown Records,the label that Rick was on.She said that he "helped her out" with her solo album,but since he's not listed anywhere on the credits,I think she means he helped her in "other ways"...lol...
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Reply #42 posted 11/07/02 10:06am

Natasha

Really? That's kinda Wild. You are right about that on Motown with Rick. Never thought about that one...Funny.
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Reply #43 posted 11/07/02 10:10am

katrina

DavidEye said:

queen627 said:

NikkiDarling said:

lovebizzare said:

NikkiDarling said:

The publication of Denise's book keeps getting pushed back. That makes me think that the publishers may be having a problem with it. I read some excerpts on her website, and if the excerpts are any indication of what the book will be like, it's not going to sell.

The publishers are probably nudging her to spice it up, get the dirty laundry on her relationships with Rick James, Prince and Nikki Sixx in there. Rick James is also working on a book, so it will be interesting to see what Rick says about Vanity and what Vanity says about Rick. Rick will probably be taking some potshots at Prince in his book.



She was with Rick James?


Yes, Vanity was with Rick James before she became Prince's girlfriend. The story I heard is that Rick had been promising Vanity that he would help her get an album out. Rick kept promising, but never delivered on the album for Vanity.

So, she met Prince backstage at some awards show and got together with him. Vanity left Rick James and went with Prince. Prince made the same promise that Rick did to help Vanity get an album out. Prince kept his promise to help her and wrote and produced the Vanity 6 album.

Rick James later accused Prince of stealing his idea of a sexy girl group from his Mary Jane Girls.



The ironic thing is,after she split with Prince,Vanity signed to Motown Records,the label that Rick was on.She said that he "helped her out" with her solo album,but since he's not listed anywhere on the credits,I think she means he helped her in "other ways"...lol...


I don't remember her saying that Rick helped her out on her solo album. Besides Rick was so angry and bitter with Prince I don't believe he would have helped anyone that was or had been associated with Prince at all.
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Reply #44 posted 11/07/02 10:44am

queen627

I was very good friends with Teena Marie.Teena was so in love with Rick that it was pathetic. She would just cry over that man. I was married to Prince. She started chasing him. Vanity was not the only reason but one of them.She can say that she slept with Prince all she wants I doubt if he was ever brain dead. we divorced. I moved on. When I got to Cali I wanted to start over.Well Tommy began following me.I thought it was cute. I began dating him.Needless to say she had sex with Tommy 3 days before we were to get married.It gets better. I broke that off. I used to belly dance.That's how I met Marvin Gaye. I had no idea who he was. I was not allowed to listen to secluar music growing up.Rick James was dating Janis at the time. Marvin's ex-wife. Get the picture here.I went through crap with Marvin that I will not discuss. But P and I remained friends.To make a long story short I ended up getting a restraining order on her.
I don't blame her it was what she represented I lost a cousin whom was modeling to a herion overdose.She was on Drugs then. Half the time I didn't know whether to slap her or hug her.
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Reply #45 posted 11/07/02 10:57am

queen627

Yes alot of people were doing drugs but does that make it alright. I have yet to meet someone that has done drugs say that they(drugs) were the best thing that happened to them.I tried so hard to get Marvin into rehab.Even after we broke up.I think his death woke a lot of people up.Prince only saw what he wanted to see and was way to trusting of all the wrong people. And pushed away the people that we there because they loved him not because they were along for the ride.
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Reply #46 posted 11/07/02 11:15am

katrina

queen627 said:

Yes alot of people were doing drugs but does that make it alright. I have yet to meet someone that has done drugs say that they(drugs) were the best thing that happened to them.I tried so hard to get Marvin into rehab.Even after we broke up.I think his death woke a lot of people up.Prince only saw what he wanted to see and was way to trusting of all the wrong people. And pushed away the people that we there because they loved him not because they were along for the ride.


What are you talking about???!!!
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