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Thread started 06/15/07 2:27pm

IAmMyFather

future baby's mama?

it looks like sheila e. is wearing a maternity dress at the alma awards.
is she with child.
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Reply #1 posted 06/15/07 2:32pm

wlcm2thdwn

I hope not, I love Sheila, but I've heard enough of old women having babies.
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Reply #2 posted 06/15/07 3:06pm

XxAxX

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wlcm2thdwn said:

I hope not, I love Sheila, but I've heard enough of old women having babies.


um, she is prince's age right? is he too old?
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Reply #3 posted 06/16/07 6:10am

Rhondab

XxAxX said:

wlcm2thdwn said:

I hope not, I love Sheila, but I've heard enough of old women having babies.


um, she is prince's age right? is he too old?


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Reply #4 posted 06/16/07 5:57pm

reina30

LISTEN PEOPLE !! 49 IS NOT OLD... OK.. and she can still get pregnant she has not reach menopause as yet.. so maybe there will be a miracle after all. It can always be worse like that woman having a child at 60 Now, that is cruelty to a child... Maybe if sheila has his child it won't be defective like the first one was with Mayte.... PLEASE !! stop calling people old.., remember you might reach that age and be at a nursing home with Alzheimers or Dementia , is never too late for Alzheimers !!!!! for your information 50 is the new 30....Take a look at statistics who is dying rapidly, teens, children and people in their 20's, the baby boomers are the ones living and working longer.. so calm down
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Reply #5 posted 06/16/07 6:34pm

cutn

Im 38 and havent had a child yet, but want to, if Prince and Sheila had a child together that would be the most awesome news ever!, and it would give me hope biggrin
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Reply #6 posted 06/17/07 6:02am

XxAxX

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Rhondab said:

XxAxX said:



um, she is prince's age right? is he too old?


wink



well, i DO love to challenge those double standards.

besides, in the old days we used to think a women's "old" eggs were the sole cause of birth defects in older couples.

now we know that men, likewise, contribute to birth defects through their "old" sperm. everytime a sperm cell regenerates it loses a bit of its DNA.

okay. rant against sexist agism over big grin
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Reply #7 posted 06/17/07 6:10am

Rhondab

XxAxX said:

Rhondab said:



wink



well, i DO love to challenge those double standards.

besides, in the old days we used to think a women's "old" eggs were the sole cause of birth defects in older couples.

now we know that men, likewise, contribute to birth defects through their "old" sperm. everytime a sperm cell regenerates it loses a bit of its DNA.

okay. rant against sexist agism over big grin


I feel ya..lol fight the power....my next tat will be this one


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Reply #8 posted 06/18/07 1:00am

Rzeplica

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IAmMyFather said:

it looks like sheila e. is wearing a maternity dress at the alma awards.
is she with child.



yeah, great thread....
pretty intelligent, you are...
you should like, totally make some more pointless threads!!!
do it!
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Reply #9 posted 06/18/07 4:53am

IAintTheOne

I have a wallet... nuts
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Reply #10 posted 06/18/07 6:46am

mirrorbestfrie
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Rzeplica said:

IAmMyFather said:

it looks like sheila e. is wearing a maternity dress at the alma awards.
is she with child.



yeah, great thread....
pretty intelligent, you are...
you should like, totally make some more pointless threads!!!
do it!


stop judging! who Died AND MADE U ORG GOD?
you dont decide whats pointless I do!

so stop judging! what great threads have u put up lately?
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Reply #11 posted 06/18/07 9:43am

Lothan

IAintTheOne said:

I have a wallet... nuts
spit evillol
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Reply #12 posted 06/18/07 1:10pm

KeyLimePy

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IAmMyFather said:

it looks like sheila e. is wearing a maternity dress at the alma awards.
is she with child.


I think Shelia looked absolutely gorgeous in that dress. Sorry, but that isn't a maternity dress is more like a baby doll style dress & sometimes depending on your body type it may cause you to look a little bigger. Truthfully, I thought the dress was pretty on her. It's just the style of dresses that are in style right now, baby doll, empire, shift, trapeze dresses etc....
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Reply #13 posted 06/18/07 2:13pm

wlcm2thdwn

reina30 said:

LISTEN PEOPLE !! 49 IS NOT OLD... OK.. and she can still get pregnant she has not reach menopause as yet.. so maybe there will be a miracle after all. It can always be worse like that woman having a child at 60 Now, that is cruelty to a child... Maybe if sheila has his child it won't be defective like the first one was with Mayte.... PLEASE !! stop calling people old.., remember you might reach that age and be at a nursing home with Alzheimers or Dementia , is never too late for Alzheimers !!!!! for your information 50 is the new 30....Take a look at statistics who is dying rapidly, teens, children and people in their 20's, the baby boomers are the ones living and working longer.. so calm down

Number one I'm older than Prince and all that shit about 50 being the new 30 is just that wait till you get there. If Sheila wants to have her first baby at 49 good for her and I hope Prince is the father.
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Reply #14 posted 06/18/07 5:46pm

IAintTheOne

wlcm2thdwn said:

reina30 said:

LISTEN PEOPLE !! 49 IS NOT OLD... OK.. and she can still get pregnant she has not reach menopause as yet.. so maybe there will be a miracle after all. It can always be worse like that woman having a child at 60 Now, that is cruelty to a child... Maybe if sheila has his child it won't be defective like the first one was with Mayte.... PLEASE !! stop calling people old.., remember you might reach that age and be at a nursing home with Alzheimers or Dementia , is never too late for Alzheimers !!!!! for your information 50 is the new 30....Take a look at statistics who is dying rapidly, teens, children and people in their 20's, the baby boomers are the ones living and working longer.. so calm down

Number one I'm older than Prince and all that shit about 50 being the new 30 is just that wait till you get there. If Sheila wants to have her first baby at 49 good for her and I hope Prince is the father.



I like pIZZA nuts
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Reply #15 posted 06/18/07 10:19pm

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IAintTheOne said:

wlcm2thdwn said:


Number one I'm older than Prince and all that shit about 50 being the new 30 is just that wait till you get there. If Sheila wants to have her first baby at 49 good for her and I hope Prince is the father.



I like pIZZA nuts



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Reply #16 posted 06/18/07 10:26pm

loveletter

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i didn't mean to start this whole ageism thing.. i was just thinking in that moment what a wonderful thing it would be if sheila were to be expecting and the way they were holding hands... just seem the perfect ending to a cinderalla story...


i have been accused of being a bit to romantic lately.
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Reply #17 posted 06/19/07 4:18am

XxAxX

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Reply #18 posted 06/19/07 12:10pm

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reina30 said:

LISTEN PEOPLE !! 49 IS NOT OLD... OK.. and she can still get pregnant she has not reach menopause as yet.. so maybe there will be a miracle after all. It can always be worse like that woman having a child at 60 Now, that is cruelty to a child... Maybe if sheila has his child it won't be defective like the first one was with Mayte.... PLEASE !! stop calling people old.., remember you might reach that age and be at a nursing home with Alzheimers or Dementia , is never too late for Alzheimers !!!!! for your information 50 is the new 30....Take a look at statistics who is dying rapidly, teens, children and people in their 20's, the baby boomers are the ones living and working longer.. so calm down




And you know she hasn't reached menopause how? Do you sell her tampons or something? confuse


Smooches;)
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Reply #19 posted 06/20/07 11:36am

morningsong

Heck, I wanna see this dress. Pictures?
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Reply #20 posted 06/20/07 1:21pm

merrywidow10

No I don't sell her tampons I'm more into botox shots. You can tell when someone reaches menopause, the hot flashes are a killer you can't even wear clothes and the AC most be on 24 hours/day . I had a teacher back in the dark ages who wore shorts and a tank top in a 10 degree weather with sandals and was sweating like a pig at rest... Could you image Sheila playing the drums and the menopause clicking????
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Reply #21 posted 06/27/07 7:23am

XxAxX

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Rhondab said:

XxAxX said:




well, i DO love to challenge those double standards.

besides, in the old days we used to think a women's "old" eggs were the sole cause of birth defects in older couples.

now we know that men, likewise, contribute to birth defects through their "old" sperm. everytime a sperm cell regenerates it loses a bit of its DNA.

okay. rant against sexist agism over big grin


I feel ya..lol fight the power....my next tat will be this one




and a bit more factual information addressing this pervasive, cultural double-standard:





Men have long been fathering children well into old age. Tony Randall entered daddyhood at age 77. Charlie Chaplin became a proud pop for the last time at age 73. Rod Stewart had his seventh child at 60 — and may still be on a roll.
But while it seems that older men and fatherhood are no odd couple, scientists have begun questioning the assumption that the biological clock is only a concern for women.

Unlike women, who have a marked decline in fertility in their 30s, men’s biological clocks appear to wind down gradually and progressively over the course of their lives. One study, for instance, found that sperm motility — their ability to be strong swimmers capable of reaching and fertilizing an egg — decreased by a steady 0.7 percent per year for men between the ages of 22 and 80.

Sperm counts appear to decline with age, too. But even men with reduced counts still may be able to father children since it takes just one sperm.
Sperm from older men also may be more likely to contribute to health problems in children. Recent studies have linked older fatherhood with increased risks of schizophrenia, autism, Down syndrome and other disorders in children. And in this case, “older” means as young as 40.

“Young people who want to have a family may want to start considering the age of the father as much as the mother,” says Dr. Dolores Malaspina, a fertility researcher and chair of the psychiatry department at New York University School of Medicine.

In 2001, Malaspina published a study showing that the chance of a child developing schizophrenia rose in concert with the father’s age. The risk was one in 141 for children of fathers under 25, and one in 47 for those with fathers 50 and older. Other studies have replicated those results. Researchers estimate as many as one in four cases of schizophrenia may be linked with a father’s age.

In another study, Malaspina linked paternal age with a greater chance of autism-related disorders — more than a fivefold increased risk for kids born to fathers 40 or older, compared with those born to dads younger than 30.
Since 1980, birth rates have increased 40 percent for fathers ages 35 to 49, while births involving men under 30 have declined. And Malaspina theorizes the rise in fathers’ ages may explain some of the upswing in autism diagnoses, though this hasn’t been proven.

DNA defects
The culprit behind a man’s ticking biological clock may be the so-called “copy error theory.” Imagine that you copied a document on a Xerox machine. And then you made a copy of the copy. And then a copy of the copy of the copy. With each new generation, the risk of blurs and imperfections increases. The same sort of thing happens with sperm. While women are born with all the eggs they’ll ever have, men constantly produce new sperm by replicating the previous generations of sperm, thus increasing the chance of mutation with each duplication.


Last year, Dr. Andrew Wyrobek, a medical biophysicist at Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratories in Berkeley, Calif., published a study that examined the sperm of 97 healthy men. Breaks in sperm DNA strands, called DNA fragmentation, rose steadily from ages 20 to 80. These breaks can cause fertility problems, pregnancy failures and an increase in some genetic diseases. For instance, genetic mutations in the sperm that can cause dwarfism, a disorder that affects bone growth, increase about 2 percent each year.

“Sperm cells, with the DNA tightly compacted in the sperm head, are one of the few cells in the body that don’t have the ability to repair themselves,” Wyrobek points out.

Exactly what this all means is hazy, as even Wyrobek readily acknowledges. Even if sperm levels decline with age, some men can father children into advanced years — an Australian mine worker made headlines in 1992 by becoming a father at 93 years, 10 months. And though the risk of genetic defects might increase with the father’s age, those risks remain relatively small and can vary from person to person.

What’s more, Dr. Rebecca Z. Sokol, president of the Society for Male Reproduction and Urology and a professor of clinical obstetrics and gynecology at the University of Southern California, says the studies linking a father’s age to abnormalities in sperm DNA and genetic defects are based on “very soft, preliminary data.” Some of the studies, she notes, didn’t control for factors such as alcohol use, which may influence the results.

A sperm shape-up plan
Given all this, making recommendations is dicey. Dr. Harry Fisch, director of the Male Reproductive Center at Columbia University Medical Center of New York-Presbyterian Hospital and the author of “The Male Biological Clock,” suggests middle-aged men who plan to become fathers should try to get their sperm in top form.

“If you want to run a marathon, you have to get in shape for it,” Fisch says. “In the same way, you have to train to have a baby.”

Mostly, the recommendations involve sound health practices that are beneficial at any age: quit smoking, avoid excess booze and empty calories, and shed extra pounds since obesity is related to male infertility.

Another tip: avoid hot tubs. Men’s testicles are outside the body in the scrotum to keep the sperm cooler than the core body temperature, and daily exposure to high levels of heat can cause a reversible decrease in sperm quality.

Fisch also advises older, aspiring fathers go in for a physical examination. Doctors can check for conditions such as varicoceles, dilated veins in the scrotum similar to varicose veins in the legs, which can obstruct sperm. Varicoceles, present in about 40 percent of infertile men, can be corrected with outpatient surgery.

Though more research is needed, Malaspina says it’s possible that — just like women — the prime time for becoming a dad is one's 20s and early 30s.
“Men," http://www.msnbc.msn.com/...937814/she says, "your biological clocks are ticking, too.”
[Edited 6/27/07 7:23am]
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