vainandy said:

I like those two songs you mention don't get me wrong but I agreed
play that song at a party where major of guests are uptempo/funk or rockheads is

sosgemini said:

ladygirl99 said:

The DJs in my area had a major field day when the "Parade" album came out. Everyone was already pissed with "Around The World In A Day" album the year before and "Kiss" was a VERY misleading lead single. The DJs would play small clips of old jams like "Let's Work", "D.M.S.R.", "Sexy Dancer", "When Doves Cry"....then they would play clips of "Do U Lie" and "Venus De Milo". Afterwards, they would say....."What the HELL happened to Prince! He has absolutely lost his damn mind!". Then they would let people call in and respond to the new album. People were laughing their asses off.

I remember the DJ in the skating rink used to tell the crowd....."Y'all better make some noise up in here or I'm going to play one of those new Prince songs!" Prince had come from being well-loved to becoming a major joke.
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Diosuni said:

except for the fact the George Martin helped record and engineer almost all the Beatle songs as well as helping with instrumentation and the odd instrument performance/arrangement on their major hits. Clare Fischer is not on very many of Prince's most beloved songs.
True. P has sooooo much output taht he can go from an acoustic set(Truth) to an all out sensorary blitz, that's usually when Claire is called upon!

Housequake, SOTT,When Doves Cry, 1999, Black Sweat, 3121, When You Were Mine, Purple Rain, Pop Life, Kiss, Girls and Boys, Thieves in the Temple, Cream, Gett Off, ... etc.

Diosuni said:

except for the fact the George Martin helped record and engineer almost all the Beatle songs as well as helping with instrumentation and the odd instrument performance/arrangement on their major hits. Clare Fischer is not on very many of Prince's most beloved songs.
True, truebut...if you stip down those Beatle classics you still have wonderfully blissful tunes that are still murder!
P can sit with a harmonica by itself and blow minds open
As Sir Paul once said" That Prince fellow seems like he's almost from another planet ,as deep and gifted as he is" THAT is on hell of a comment !

Housequake, SOTT,When Doves Cry, 1999, Black Sweat, 3121, When You Were Mine, Purple Rain, Pop Life, Kiss, Girls and Boys, Thieves in the Temple, Cream, Gett Off, ... etc.

ufoclub said:

ufoclub said:

The DJs in my area had a major field day when the "Parade" album came out. Everyone was already pissed with "Around The World In A Day" album the year before and "Kiss" was a VERY misleading lead single. The DJs would play small clips of old jams like "Let's Work", "D.M.S.R.", "Sexy Dancer", "When Doves Cry"....then they would play clips of "Do U Lie" and "Venus De Milo". Afterwards, they would say....."What the HELL happened to Prince! He has absolutely lost his damn mind!". Then they would let people call in and respond to the new album. People were laughing their asses off.

I remember the DJ in the skating rink used to tell the crowd....."Y'all better make some noise up in here or I'm going to play one of those new Prince songs!" Prince had come from being well-loved to becoming a major joke.

Clare's his senses of timing, rhythm and harmony are just so ... sick, it's undeniable that he has added depth and complexity to Prince's songs.

The DJs in my area had a major field day when the "Parade" album came out. Everyone was already pissed with "Around The World In A Day" album the year before and "Kiss" was a VERY misleading lead single. The DJs would play small clips of old jams like "Let's Work", "D.M.S.R.", "Sexy Dancer", "When Doves Cry"....then they would play clips of "Do U Lie" and "Venus De Milo". Afterwards, they would say....."What the HELL happened to Prince! He has absolutely lost his damn mind!". Then they would let people call in and respond to the new album. People were laughing their asses off.

I remember the DJ in the skating rink used to tell the crowd....."Y'all better make some noise up in here or I'm going to play one of those new Prince songs!" Prince had come from being well-loved to becoming a major joke.
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sosgemini said:

gypsyfire said:

Diosuni said:

except for the fact the George Martin helped record and engineer almost all the Beatle songs as well as helping with instrumentation and the odd instrument performance/arrangement on their major hits. Clare Fischer is not on very many of Prince's most beloved songs.
I put that wrong...Martin did alot more for the Beatles. But the arrangements were similiar to a degree.

Housequake, SOTT,When Doves Cry, 1999, Black Sweat, 3121, When You Were Mine, Purple Rain, Pop Life, Kiss, Girls and Boys, Thieves in the Temple, Cream, Gett Off, ... etc.

Mong said:

I can tell you that my point is to refute "the importance of Clare Fischer to P's music" (the title of this thread) and create a discussion to keep this site functional.

Specifically to debate these posted points:

"He is to Prince what George Martin was (to a large degree) to the Beatles."
"Clare's contributions to Prince's work are huge"
"To that end Claire was never mentioned to keep the "mysique" of Prince intact! "
"He seems to be pretty much joined at the hip with P since the 1980's, but P rarely mentions this guy. "

Now, I like many of the songs that have these arrangements, but I do find his sound to be a bit b r o a d... which then borders on being interchangable from song to song. Which, funny enough, Prince does do...

Actually, I don't think they had ever heard of Jimi Hendrix. I, myself, had never heard of Jimi Hendrix until critics started comparing Prince to him in the early 1980s and then I went and checked out some of his stuff. I was listening to what was new and hot and mainly funk. I'm sure that's what they were listening to also.

As for folks never listening to jazz, I can listen to it now and even may seek out some of it. I don't blame people for not being into jazz though. There's really no reason to branch out into something else as long as good new music is being made. I didn't start branching out into other types of music until funk had died and mainstream R&B had turned to bullshit.

Also, why would you expect people to accept Prince making jazz or classical during that time? Prince, at that time, was a known as a funk/rock act. It's not like droves of funk or rock fans were into jazz anyway.
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You and all your buds should get their faces outta' the mirror and their ears to the music-----MUSIC!

Are you telling me that I've been wrongly believing for years that Clare Fischer was a woman?