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Reply #30 posted 08/29/06 9:13pm

loveletter

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sunday in the park..... explains it all.


nuff said.
Special Thanks 2 Paisley Park and The DownLoad Society
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Reply #31 posted 08/29/06 10:36pm

sosgemini

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does this mean the girl will start wearing better cloths?

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Reply #32 posted 08/30/06 5:50am

Duggs

loveletter said:

sunday in the park..... explains it all.


nuff said.


sunday in (paisely) park. Prince gave her one more lesson b4 they parted ways.


Tamar will be fine, better and stronger because of this.
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Reply #33 posted 08/30/06 6:00am

SoulAlive

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Prince has dumped her for a bigger/better fish.....Sheena Easton. That's right, Prince is all up in Sheena once again and has just finished laying down tracks with her.



Oh yes..and we all know that this project is gonna be a major success rolleyes lol


let's face it,guys...Prince's days as a producer of other artists are over.Whenever he produces someone,the project either flops (Chaka's 'Come 2 My House') or it doesn't get released at all (Rosie's 'Concrete Jungle',Tamar's 'Milk and Honey').I don't know if we should blame Prince or the record labels,but something is wrong.
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Reply #34 posted 08/30/06 7:13am

silverandgold

Duggs said:

loveletter said:

sunday in the park..... explains it all.


nuff said.


sunday in (paisely) park. Prince gave her one more lesson b4 they parted ways.


Tamar will be fine, better and stronger because of this.


Totally agree. You know there's a lot that would love to see her fall, but she'll be ok.
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Reply #35 posted 08/30/06 7:24am

Duggs

silverandgold said:

Duggs said:



sunday in (paisely) park. Prince gave her one more lesson b4 they parted ways.


Tamar will be fine, better and stronger because of this.


Totally agree. You know there's a lot that would love to see her fall, but she'll be ok.



those are the haters, and i think if she really was ugly and not talented then they wouldnt speak out on her.
Nobody hates on you when your doing bad, they only hate when your doing good.
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Reply #36 posted 08/30/06 7:39am

silverandgold

Duggs said:

silverandgold said:



Totally agree. You know there's a lot that would love to see her fall, but she'll be ok.



those are the haters, and i think if she really was ugly and not talented then they wouldnt speak out on her.
Nobody hates on you when your doing bad, they only hate when your doing good.


Ain't it the truth, not only that, but all the female haters that was mad because she was working with Prince. Some of them were having some serious fits, lol lol Like "oh no" why did he choose her!" lol Tamar will be just fine, she doesn't need Prince's fans to make it, there's a huge world out there that will appreciate a talented singer such as Tamar.
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Reply #37 posted 08/30/06 9:31am

ladygirl99

Tamar will be okay. She is a very talented vocalist. Just too bad that her CD might not never be released.
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Reply #38 posted 08/30/06 9:44am

Shyra

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babynoz said:





jseven, you speak the truth as usual. Every door that closes, another one opens. Tell Tamar to stay encouraged, hold her head high and keep the faith.


Alas, such words of truth did nothing to help

Jill Jones
Taja Sevelle
Ingrid Chavez
etc.
etc.
etc.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again:

After nearly three decades of evidence to the contrary, it seems extremely naive for anyone with talent to think of Prince as their golden ticket. Paisley Park is where budding talent goes to die.



I think you're right...
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Reply #39 posted 08/31/06 5:45am

Rhondab

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PurpleCharm said:





eek




double eek eek

where's the talent on that list? lol



lol I was thinking the same thing.

and lol SOS...


I'm actually starting to wonder that maybe they were more than friends. It seems really odd to just part ways with her.
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Reply #40 posted 08/31/06 2:15pm

jseven

Their "relationship" was strictly about music. Nothing else.
Silence Speaks A Thousand Words.
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Reply #41 posted 08/31/06 3:02pm

Rhondab

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Their "relationship" was strictly about music. Nothing else.



ok. shrug
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Reply #42 posted 08/31/06 4:02pm

bosede

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You said that the relationship was only business. but why did he spent so much time with making the cd and promoting her. This led both the indusry and the fans to speculate about their relationship. I am not doubting you, but I think only Prince and Tamar know what their relationship was. Even though Universal dropped her, they can sell her cd through her website and her my space site.
Then dropping her after the divorce filling was made public - I do not understand. I wish her the best. I know she can make it if she continue to try.
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Reply #43 posted 08/31/06 6:50pm

jseven

U guys also know that Prince and Tamar recorded 2gether in 1996, right?

When you are making a CD with some1 and promoting some1, don't u have 2 spend a lot of time 2gether? That would be a professional relationship.

Wasn't the divorce thing made public in July but Tamar's last appearance with Prince was in mid-June?

Didn't she get get dropped from the label like in July? A month later?

Remember, he never made the divorce thing public. Wasn't CJ given a call and made it public 2 months after it was filed? Seems like it happened long before the divorce was made public and just perhaps both parties were hoping the divorce was not made public since he likes his private life 2 b private.

I wish she would sell her CD thru her site or her myspace page, but it has not happened yet. This is not the last u will hear of Tamar. We just don't know when. We can go round and round bout why did this happen why did that happen and I am not going 2 do it. Wait 4 Prince 2 talk about it if u wish.

I will say what I said b4 and I am sticking 2 it, it was strickly professionaly about music. I am not trying 2 be rude, just trying 2 b informative.
[Edited 8/31/06 18:51pm]
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Reply #44 posted 08/31/06 7:07pm

clockwise

haven't you noticed her NAME??? she never was prince's in the first palce. her name is Tamar Ashley Davis, now would prince promote that? i think never! he goes for names like. DA TWINZ, or Vanity, Sheila E. Like dat. i'm sick of crapy names like Jessica Simpson, Justin Timberlake. Luv ya my sexy prince.
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Reply #45 posted 08/31/06 10:32pm

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clockwise said:

haven't you noticed her NAME??? she never was prince's in the first palce. her name is Tamar Ashley Davis, now would prince promote that? i think never! he goes for names like. DA TWINZ, or Vanity, Sheila E. Like dat. i'm sick of crapy names like Jessica Simpson, Justin Timberlake. Luv ya my sexy prince.



wasnt her name just "tamar" at first?
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Reply #46 posted 09/01/06 12:09am

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her name is Asley Tamar Davis,and then it was Tamar then it changed 2 Tamar Davis.
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Reply #47 posted 09/01/06 1:06am

NewMr7

bosede said:

j7

You said that the relationship was only business. but why did he spent so much time with making the cd and promoting her. This led both the indusry and the fans to speculate about their relationship. I am not doubting you, but I think only Prince and Tamar know what their relationship was. Even though Universal dropped her, they can sell her cd through her website and her my space site.
Then dropping her after the divorce filling was made public - I do not understand. I wish her the best. I know she can make it if she continue to try.


You would spend time making a CD and promoting an Artist for professional reasons would you not?

The issues you have raised only serve to make the relationship appear more professional in nature.

If the 'industry' or fans speculated about their relationship that is their problem and responsibility and probably more to do with over-active imaginations and tabloid sensibilities than anything else.
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Reply #48 posted 09/01/06 4:09am

SoulAlive

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Tamar will be okay. She is a very talented vocalist. Just too bad that her CD might not never be released.



on another thread,folks are saying that it can be ordered from BestBuy.com confuse
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Reply #49 posted 09/01/06 4:37am

jseven

Just because u can order it does not mean u r gonna get it.
Silence Speaks A Thousand Words.
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Reply #50 posted 09/01/06 6:12am

SoulAlive

jseven said:

Just because u can order it does not mean u r gonna get it.



sad so,they're gonna take my money and not send me a CD?
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Reply #51 posted 09/01/06 9:45am

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hokie1 said:

Yeah, I read that too. I wonder what happened. Somewhere she and Mani are sitting around with a voodoo doll that looks like Prince and furiously poking needles into it! lol


No, she's sitting around with Dez Dickerson poking needles. Remember, he was featured in "Purple Rain" and his album never came out.
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #52 posted 09/01/06 11:12am

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Things I'm curious about :
Does anyone know if Tamar's cd was ever actually PRESSED? (I thought I read that there are promo copies floating around, but I'm not sure.)

I'm presuming the May to June album postponement was because they changed the title/cover pic, etc. but does anyone know why it was postponed from June to August 29? And then somewhere in between Universal (and Prince it seems) severed ties with her so if the CDs were actually pressed before she was dropped, what happed to them? (Black Album anyone? j/k)

If the CDs weren't pressed, I think it will be hard for her to release the album as it was intended. (Meaning she'll have to change the track list or something.) Also, according to ASCAP Prince co-wrote the songs--is there a chance he'd refuse to let her use them on any future album (or this album released on another label) if things went sour between them?
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Reply #53 posted 09/01/06 11:57am

silverandgold

jseven said:

Just because u can order it does not mean u r gonna get it.


Well I guess I could forget about seeing that cd come in the mail, so I guess my pre-order will not happen.
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Reply #54 posted 09/01/06 11:57am

hokie1

Once again, thank you to J7 for the info. It's good to have someone around that can set the record straight.
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Reply #55 posted 09/01/06 12:00pm

silverandgold

jseven said:

Their "relationship" was strictly about music. Nothing else.


Well, thank the lord I wish people would understand that. But I guess everybody is always fishing for gossip. My opinion is that Prince has a lot of respect for her as he has shown publicly on stage during their performances and would not hardly want to see her hurt. So I'm sure they parted professionally for good reason. She is going to be alright.
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Reply #56 posted 09/01/06 12:02pm

silverandgold

NewMr7 said:

bosede said:

j7

You said that the relationship was only business. but why did he spent so much time with making the cd and promoting her. This led both the indusry and the fans to speculate about their relationship. I am not doubting you, but I think only Prince and Tamar know what their relationship was. Even though Universal dropped her, they can sell her cd through her website and her my space site.
Then dropping her after the divorce filling was made public - I do not understand. I wish her the best. I know she can make it if she continue to try.


You would spend time making a CD and promoting an Artist for professional reasons would you not?

The issues you have raised only serve to make the relationship appear more professional in nature.

If the 'industry' or fans speculated about their relationship that is their problem and responsibility and probably more to do with over-active imaginations and tabloid sensibilities than anything else
.



I hear you NewMr7!
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Reply #57 posted 09/01/06 10:28pm

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i really don't get it

Prince was in Promotion OVERDRIVE when it came 2 Tamar
he was promoting her so much in fact I believe it HURT the 3121
promotion a bit.

I also understand that UNIVERSAL signed Tamar basically because of Prince.
I was also told by many people that UNiversal HATED the record.

what I don't get is - what happed so suddenly that Prince "dropped" her b4 the record even came out.
My BEST guess is still the divorce thing. The *rumour* was that Prince and Mani were getting divorced because he was spending 2 much time with TAMAR.
Maybe he is trying 2 WORK THINGS OUT with MANI and she was like - STAY AWAY from TAMAR and we can work through this.....
that sounds like a very normal relationship thing 2 happen.
Without Prince backing the Tamar record
Universal was like F*ck THIS! - THis record is lame and if Prince is going 2 back/promote it then it really will go nowhere.
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Reply #58 posted 09/02/06 7:37am

silverandgold

thaCONcept said:

i really don't get it

Prince was in Promotion OVERDRIVE when it came 2 Tamar
he was promoting her so much in fact I believe it HURT the 3121
promotion a bit.

I also understand that UNIVERSAL signed Tamar basically because of Prince.
I was also told by many people that UNiversal HATED the record.

what I don't get is - what happed so suddenly that Prince "dropped" her b4 the record even came out.
My BEST guess is still the divorce thing. The *rumour* was that Prince and Mani were getting divorced because he was spending 2 much time with TAMAR.
Maybe he is trying 2 WORK THINGS OUT with MANI and she was like - STAY AWAY from TAMAR and we can work through this.....
that sounds like a very normal relationship thing 2 happen.
Without Prince backing the Tamar record
Universal was like F*ck THIS! - THis record is lame and if Prince is going 2 back/promote it then it really will go nowhere.
Am I close at all?

7



Regardless, business is business. Any wife should understand if she marries someone like Prince that he will be doing business and spending time with other artists, female or male, especially if there's promotion issues involved. Tamar and Prince probabley parted ways professionally, because they both probably felt with all the rumors going on it would affect her career, and people started pointing fingers at Tamar because of his divorce. Meanwhile I don't believe she had anything to do with it. If Tamar was a guy and Prince was promoting him, I'm sure Mani might have felt the same way that he was spending a lot of time with other musicians or friends and not her. Fact is if you're going to marry someone like Prince then be strong enough and secure with yourself,to handle all that goes with the package.

It was never a secret that Prince is a famous artist. So really, I don't think Tamar was the blame for the divorce. I feel her name was thrown out there as the reason for the divorce by a jealous and insecure wife to hurt Tamar because Mani knew her marriage was already in trouble, and knew by stating that publicly, that she could hurt Prince by trying to ruin Tamar's career, since she felt he was not spending enough time with her and the marriage was already in trouble. So this is how Tamar got caught up in the middle of all this. This is just the way I see it,because it's so obvious.

This is not to talk about Mani in a mean way, but I believe it is just hard being married to a musician/artist as famous as Prince and knowing that many times he will be away from home, but she should have thought about that before she stalked his ass when he was married, karma is a bitch ain't it? wink
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Reply #59 posted 09/02/06 9:35am

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silverandgold said:

thaCONcept said:

i really don't get it

Prince was in Promotion OVERDRIVE when it came 2 Tamar
he was promoting her so much in fact I believe it HURT the 3121
promotion a bit.

I also understand that UNIVERSAL signed Tamar basically because of Prince.
I was also told by many people that UNiversal HATED the record.

what I don't get is - what happed so suddenly that Prince "dropped" her b4 the record even came out.
My BEST guess is still the divorce thing. The *rumour* was that Prince and Mani were getting divorced because he was spending 2 much time with TAMAR.
Maybe he is trying 2 WORK THINGS OUT with MANI and she was like - STAY AWAY from TAMAR and we can work through this.....
that sounds like a very normal relationship thing 2 happen.
Without Prince backing the Tamar record
Universal was like F*ck THIS! - THis record is lame and if Prince is going 2 back/promote it then it really will go nowhere.
Am I close at all?

7



Regardless, business is business. Any wife should understand if she marries someone like Prince that he will be doing business and spending time with other artists, female or male, especially if there's promotion issues involved. Tamar and Prince probabley parted ways professionally, because they both probably felt with all the rumors going on it would affect her career, and people started pointing fingers at Tamar because of his divorce. Meanwhile I don't believe she had anything to do with it. If Tamar was a guy and Prince was promoting him, I'm sure Mani might have felt the same way that he was spending a lot of time with other musicians or friends and not her. Fact is if you're going to marry someone like Prince then be strong enough and secure with yourself,to handle all that goes with the package.

It was never a secret that Prince is a famous artist. So really, I don't think Tamar was the blame for the divorce. I feel her name was thrown out there as the reason for the divorce by a jealous and insecure wife to hurt Tamar because Mani knew her marriage was already in trouble, and knew by stating that publicly, that she could hurt Prince by trying to ruin Tamar's career, since she felt he was not spending enough time with her and the marriage was already in trouble. So this is how Tamar got caught up in the middle of all this. This is just the way I see it,because it's so obvious.

This is not to talk about Mani in a mean way, but I believe it is just hard being married to a musician/artist as famous as Prince and knowing that many times he will be away from home, but she should have thought about that before she stalked his ass when he was married, karma is a bitch ain't it? wink



lol

i must admit im not sold on tamar being the reason for the divorce...insecurity lead on by prince's infatuation? possibly...but tamar just doesnt seem like the type of girl who would wreck a home...
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