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Thread started 08/20/06 10:44pm

lonelygurl8305

Question about Wendy and Lisa

NOT TOO BE TOO NOISY BUT...

FIRST OFF, I HAVE TO SAY THAT THESE GIRLS WERE AND STILL ARE MAD TALENTED!!! I READ BOTH OF THEIR PROFILES AT WIKIPEDIA.COM AND WAS SURPRISED TO READ THAT THEY WERE LESBIAN MUSICIANS, AND IT WAS SUCH A Coincidence, THAT THEY WERE CHILDHOOD FRIENDS AND BOTH GAY...NOT THAT ITS ANY OF MY BUSINESS, BUT DID THESE TOO EVER HOOK UP???
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Reply #1 posted 08/21/06 12:34am

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Reply #2 posted 08/21/06 1:33am

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Reply #3 posted 08/21/06 8:18am

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lonelygurl8305 said:

NOT TOO BE TOO NOISY BUT...

FIRST OFF, I HAVE TO SAY THAT THESE GIRLS WERE AND STILL ARE MAD TALENTED!!! I READ BOTH OF THEIR PROFILES AT WIKIPEDIA.COM AND WAS SURPRISED TO READ THAT THEY WERE LESBIAN MUSICIANS, AND IT WAS SUCH A Coincidence, THAT THEY WERE CHILDHOOD FRIENDS AND BOTH GAY...NOT THAT ITS ANY OF MY BUSINESS, BUT DID THESE TOO EVER HOOK UP???



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Reply #4 posted 08/21/06 1:17pm

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Ummmm. duh.

Am I the only one lucky enough to have gaydar? Yes they were a couple up until a while back.

Here's a tip for you breeders. Almost anytime someone is referred to as 'friend' or 'family friend' in the gay community, it usually means LOVER! Not always, but in this case.... bingo!
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Reply #5 posted 08/21/06 4:21pm

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Ummmm. duh.

Am I the only one lucky enough to have gaydar? Yes they were a couple up until a while back.

Here's a tip for you breeders. Almost anytime someone is referred to as 'friend' or 'family friend' in the gay community, it usually means LOVER! Not always, but in this case.... bingo!


Well,in this case 'family friend' is absolutely true. Its common knowledge that the Melvoin, Coleman clans grew up together and have known eachother since someone(guess?)was a "plucked chickin in diapers"...The families have been extremely close and have shared tragedies as a such.
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Reply #6 posted 08/21/06 11:49pm

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Wow, intresting replies!!!! I just thought it was just a pretty good concidence that they both are gay and musicians, I thought that maybe you know. Well, good for them if they ever did go together!! Wendy was and still is a babe and Lisa was/is so cute with her sad puppy dog eyes. You could really tell in interviews that she was more shy one.

I didnt even know they were both gay until I read both of their profiles at wikipedia.org
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Reply #7 posted 08/22/06 5:45am

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Ummmm. duh.

Am I the only one lucky enough to have gaydar? Yes they were a couple up until a while back.

Here's a tip for you breeders. Almost anytime someone is referred to as 'friend' or 'family friend' in the gay community, it usually means LOVER! Not always, but in this case.... bingo!

Fucking stupid (not to mention insulting) word to use. Gay people can (and often do) breed too, you know.
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Reply #8 posted 08/22/06 8:00am

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lonelygurl8305 said:

Wow, intresting replies!!!! I just thought it was just a pretty good concidence that they both are gay and musicians, I thought that maybe you know. Well, good for them if they ever did go together!! Wendy was and still is a babe and Lisa was/is so cute with her sad puppy dog eyes. [b]You could really tell in interviews that she was more shy one.[/b]

I didnt even know they were both gay until I read both of their profiles at wikipedia.org

Hell yeah. lol Lisa admitted that herself during their old interviews when they was promoting their debut album that if Wendy wasn't there, then Lisa would barely talk to the interviewer. I noticed too at times during their inteviews that Wendy does most of the talking and doesn't give Lisa an opportinuty to speak.
Yes they were lovers before Wendy joined Prince's band. It seems to me that their parents were very liberal and likely was cool of their sexuality and them been together. I always thought that Lisa was the bi one and Wendy was straight up lesbian. Who knows since they both are very mum about their personal life.
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Reply #9 posted 08/22/06 10:50pm

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lonelygurl8305 said:

Wow, intresting replies!!!! I just thought it was just a pretty good concidence that they both are gay and musicians, I thought that maybe you know. Well, good for them if they ever did go together!! Wendy was and still is a babe and Lisa was/is so cute with her sad puppy dog eyes. [b]You could really tell in interviews that she was more shy one.[/b]

I didnt even know they were both gay until I read both of their profiles at wikipedia.org

Hell yeah. lol Lisa admitted that herself during their old interviews when they was promoting their debut album that if Wendy wasn't there, then Lisa would barely talk to the interviewer. I noticed too at times during their inteviews that Wendy does most of the talking and doesn't give Lisa an opportinuty to speak.
Yes they were lovers before Wendy joined Prince's band. It seems to me that their parents were very liberal and likely was cool of their sexuality and them been together. I always thought that Lisa was the bi one and Wendy was straight up lesbian. Who knows since they both are very mum about their personal life.


Wow, great reply!! Yeah, I've seen interviews with them on youtube, and Wendy does seem like more of a talker over Lisa, but I think they are (and still are) very beautiful women & fab musicians!!! If they were lovers, I think its cool that they could still be good friends even after they went together, that shows that they still had love for eachother over romantic feelings. Just looking at them in interviews, I would guess that they were straight as a arrow!! LOL. Like for example, Me'shell Ndegeocello looks like she's a lesbian to me, but she's actually bisexual. I'm bisexual myself, but I look straight as a arrow if you ever saw me in person...lol.

I love Micheal DeLorenzo, havent heard much from him lately. I remember him in the 'Beat it' video.

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Reply #10 posted 08/23/06 12:44am

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Bsunshine said:

Ummmm. duh.

Am I the only one lucky enough to have gaydar? Yes they were a couple up until a while back.

Here's a tip for you breeders. Almost anytime someone is referred to as 'friend' or 'family friend' in the gay community, it usually means LOVER! Not always, but in this case.... bingo!

Fucking stupid (not to mention insulting) word to use. Gay people can (and often do) breed too, you know.



Settle down fella. No offense was meant. It is a common use of the word in our community. It was said in fun! I'm sure you can breed with the best of them.
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Reply #11 posted 08/23/06 1:58am

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Bsunshine said:

AsylumUtopia said:


Fucking stupid (not to mention insulting) word to use. Gay people can (and often do) breed too, you know.



Settle down fella. No offense was meant. It is a common use of the word in our community. It was said in fun! I'm sure you can breed with the best of them.

Ah, sorry, my bad mood yesterday leaked out. I usually stay away from these forums when I'm in a foul humour for exactly this reason. No offense was meant, none was taken.

I'm aware that it's a commonly used word in your community, but it is usually meant to be disparaging and insulting. To be honest, I don't actually find it that insulting (but I know people who do), after all, there's an element of truth to it.

I think what annoys me about it is that as insults go, it's pretty lame. It can be just as easily applied to many gay people as it can to straight people, and many straight people actually aren't breeders at all, so it really falls short as an insult towards it's intended target audience. Add to that that if it weren't for breeders, neither of us would be here.

Around where I live the gay community have adopted 'breeder' as their primary insult towards straight people, and I think it misrepresents gay people, because I know, as far as insults go, ye can do far better than that. Every time I hear it I think, is that all you've got ? biggrin
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Reply #12 posted 08/23/06 11:26am

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you know growing up it never occurred to me that they were gay. i can rememeber several arguments i had with people over it- guess they were right. lol

it wasn't until i saw one of their promo pics for their first release(they are cheek to cheek in it).

anyway.i have NO gaydar to speak of.. . .and where does it say that they are gay in their wikipedia article?
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Reply #13 posted 08/23/06 1:24pm

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wavesofbliss said:

you know growing up it never occurred to me that they were gay. i can rememeber several arguments i had with people over it- guess they were right. lol

it wasn't until i saw one of their promo pics for their first release(they are cheek to cheek in it).

anyway.i have NO gaydar to speak of.. . .and where does it say that they are gay in their wikipedia article?



most of the fans of theirs that i know dont really like to get into their personal life...thats probably why nobody has posted it in wikipedia or other places...and for the record, while lisa has indicated that her "girlfriend" wendy joined The Revolution we really dont know what context she was refering to. She hasn't acknowledged her sexuality to the press or anyone else.

Wendy on the other hand has been very very open with her relationship with Lisa Cold-e-check.
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Reply #14 posted 08/23/06 1:31pm

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lonelygurl8305 said:

ladygirl99 said:


Hell yeah. lol Lisa admitted that herself during their old interviews when they was promoting their debut album that if Wendy wasn't there, then Lisa would barely talk to the interviewer. I noticed too at times during their inteviews that Wendy does most of the talking and doesn't give Lisa an opportinuty to speak.
Yes they were lovers before Wendy joined Prince's band. It seems to me that their parents were very liberal and likely was cool of their sexuality and them been together. I always thought that Lisa was the bi one and Wendy was straight up lesbian. Who knows since they both are very mum about their personal life.


Wow, great reply!! Yeah, I've seen interviews with them on youtube, and Wendy does seem like more of a talker over Lisa, but I think they are (and still are) very beautiful women & fab musicians!!! If they were lovers, I think its cool that they could still be good friends even after they went together, that shows that they still had love for eachother over romantic feelings. Just looking at them in interviews, I would guess that they were straight as a arrow!! LOL. Like for example, Me'shell Ndegeocello looks like she's a lesbian to me, but she's actually bisexual. I'm bisexual myself, but I look straight as a arrow if you ever saw me in person...lol.

[b]I love Micheal DeLorenzo, havent heard much from him lately. I remember him in the 'Beat it' video
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I heard that Meshell liked Wendy but of course Wendy was commited to Lisa Cole.

Girl I love Michael too. HE has the most beautiful brown eyes. MMM. I watch New York Undercover everyday on TV One even if I already had the series on DVD. Speaking of Michael's relations to Prince, Michael said that he went to one of Prince's concerts when he was promoting Emancipation and he asked Prince to appeared as special musicial guest on NYUC. I guess that never happened. sad Also Michael is very close to Sheila E and her family.
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Reply #15 posted 08/23/06 1:42pm

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sosgemini said:

wavesofbliss said:

you know growing up it never occurred to me that they were gay. i can rememeber several arguments i had with people over it- guess they were right. lol

it wasn't until i saw one of their promo pics for their first release(they are cheek to cheek in it).

anyway.i have NO gaydar to speak of.. . .and where does it say that they are gay in their wikipedia article?



most of the fans of theirs that i know dont really like to get into their personal life...thats probably why nobody has posted it in wikipedia or other places...and for the record, while lisa has indicated that her "girlfriend" wendy joined The Revolution we really dont know what context she was refering to. She hasn't acknowledged her sexuality to the press or anyone else.

Wendy on the other hand has been very very open with her relationship with Lisa Cold-e-check.

Yep I agreed and Lisa's context can be either way. They both are very private about their personal lives especially Lisa and I was thinking about that comment she made when she and Wendy appeared on Rolling Stone mag 20 years ago when she told the interviewer about keeping things in her life private. And she stay true to her comment to this very day. I guess she at least learn something like that from Prince biggrin Also I never heard Wendy admitted her relationship to Lisa Chodenko (or whatever) and maybe she did or something and i did missed that but yes she admitted she was a lesbian for few years now.
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Reply #16 posted 08/23/06 1:44pm

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Well since this thread is about Wendy and Lisa, whom I love from the depths of my heart, does anyone know if the rumor about the song "Constant Craving" by the Beautiful voiced (is that a word? smile) K.D. Lang, was actually written about Wendy? Of course Wendy was commited to Lisa so nothing could happen between them, but I heard this rumor years ago and always wondered if it were true.
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Reply #17 posted 08/23/06 1:50pm

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Reply #18 posted 08/23/06 1:52pm

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VelvetJ said:

Well since this thread is about Wendy and Lisa, whom I love from the depths of my heart, does anyone know if the rumor about the song "Constant Craving" by the Beautiful voiced (is that a word? smile) K.D. Lang, was actually written about Wendy? Of course Wendy was commited to Lisa so nothing could happen between them, but I heard this rumor years ago and always wondered if it were true.


kd confirmed this in an interview many many moons ago...thats were i first read it. one day i'll have to see if the article is online.
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I don't know, I'm feeling a bit chatty today.

Alright folks, I have decided to share a wild belief I briefly had as a teenager regarding Wendy, Susannah, and Prince. I am already acknowledging it's a bit wild, but hey, I was young. Anyway, at one point I believed Prince actually fell in love with Wendy but knew he couldn't have her and so he decided to go for the next best thing.....Susannah. It always seemed Prince and Wendy had some sort of connection between them that wasn't so obvious with the rest of his band members and protege's.

Don't get me wrong I believe Prince truly and legitimately loved Susannah, but if possible, he would have been with Wendy.

This whole thing may be so far from the truth it may as well be on Pluto, but at one time I actually believed that theory.
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Reply #21 posted 08/23/06 2:07pm

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VelvetJ said:

I don't know, I'm feeling a bit chatty today.

Alright folks, I have decided to share a wild belief I briefly had as a teenager regarding Wendy, Susannah, and Prince. I am already acknowledging it's a bit wild, but hey, I was young. Anyway, at one point I believed Prince actually fell in love with Wendy but knew he couldn't have her and so he decided to go for the next best thing.....Susannah. It always seemed Prince and Wendy had some sort of connection between them that wasn't so obvious with the rest of his band members and protege's.

Don't get me wrong I believe Prince truly and legitimately loved Susannah, but if possible, he would have been with Wendy.

This whole thing may be so far from the truth it may as well be on Pluto, but at one time I actually believed that theory.

Wow I thought that i was the only one think that.
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Reply #22 posted 08/23/06 3:15pm

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sosgemini said:

VelvetJ said:

Well since this thread is about Wendy and Lisa, whom I love from the depths of my heart, does anyone know if the rumor about the song "Constant Craving" by the Beautiful voiced (is that a word? smile) K.D. Lang, was actually written about Wendy? Of course Wendy was commited to Lisa so nothing could happen between them, but I heard this rumor years ago and always wondered if it were true.


kd confirmed this in an interview many many moons ago...thats were i first read it. one day i'll have to see if the article is online.


I know kd was brought in to do an 11th hour background vocal part that they ended up not using on the Girl Bros record. She was just leaving and rode off on her motorcycle after I arrived at the studio that night. The assistant engineer on the project was telling me things were not good between Wendy & Lisa and that the song Love & Trouble was sort of about that.
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Jestyr said:

sosgemini said:



kd confirmed this in an interview many many moons ago...thats were i first read it. one day i'll have to see if the article is online.


I know kd was brought in to do an 11th hour background vocal part that they ended up not using on the Girl Bros record. She was just leaving and rode off on her motorcycle after I arrived at the studio that night. The assistant engineer on the project was telling me things were not good between Wendy & Lisa and that the song Love & Trouble was sort of about that.



ahh...jestyr, were you the one that got to hang out with the girls and kd one night?
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Reply #24 posted 08/23/06 5:52pm

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sosgemini said:

Jestyr said:



I know kd was brought in to do an 11th hour background vocal part that they ended up not using on the Girl Bros record. She was just leaving and rode off on her motorcycle after I arrived at the studio that night. The assistant engineer on the project was telling me things were not good between Wendy & Lisa and that the song Love & Trouble was sort of about that.



ahh...jestyr, were you the one that got to hang out with the girls and kd one night?


Oops. I forgot! I already told you this story, 'gemini.
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Jestyr said:

sosgemini said:




ahh...jestyr, were you the one that got to hang out with the girls and kd one night?


Oops. I forgot! I already told you this story, 'gemini.

cool! i wanna hear!
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Reply #26 posted 08/23/06 9:34pm

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Bsunshine said:




Settle down fella. No offense was meant. It is a common use of the word in our community. It was said in fun! I'm sure you can breed with the best of them.

Ah, sorry, my bad mood yesterday leaked out. I usually stay away from these forums when I'm in a foul humour for exactly this reason. No offense was meant, none was taken.

I'm aware that it's a commonly used word in your community, but it is usually meant to be disparaging and insulting. To be honest, I don't actually find it that insulting (but I know people who do), after all, there's an element of truth to it.

I think what annoys me about it is that as insults go, it's pretty lame. It can be just as easily applied to many gay people as it can to straight people, and many straight people actually aren't breeders at all, so it really falls short as an insult towards it's intended target audience. Add to that that if it weren't for breeders, neither of us would be here.

Around where I live the gay community have adopted 'breeder' as their primary insult towards straight people, and I think it misrepresents gay people, because I know, as far as insults go, ye can do far better than that. Every time I hear it I think, is that all you've got ? biggrin


Thank you babydoll. It was never meant to be a mean comment. Just something I typed in haste and meant with a smile and no malice. Have a great one!
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Reply #27 posted 08/24/06 11:56am

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Jestyr said:



Oops. I forgot! I already told you this story, 'gemini.

cool! i wanna hear!


Hi mardartista!

I think sosgemini posted it on his fansite - didn't you, dude? Here's the url:

http://www.girlbroslandia.org/nar_05

Search on the front page for the story he called "Memories....misty watercolored memories.... "
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Reply #28 posted 08/24/06 12:03pm

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Jestyr said:

http://www.girlbroslandia.org/nar_05

Search on the front page for the story he called "Memories....misty watercolored memories.... "


THANKS! I'll check it out!
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Reply #29 posted 08/24/06 12:19pm

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"Memories....misty watercolored memories.... "


great story -- thanks for sharing it!
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