I think Tamar is really good. I hope her album comes out soon.

PurpleCharm said:

I dont think so PurpleCharm, on her myspace page she names her influences and says Jesus is her biggest influence.

So i would guess shes a Christian of some sort.

It seemed strange to me that people didnt like her "grammar" or how her interview flowed.
She answered all her ?'s with GOD being the foundation of her answers, I honestly wished more people wrote in that manner.

Duggs said:

Some people just don't like her for whatever reason. Some ARE jealous and will never really like anyone that works closely with Prince. Some aren't a fan of her voice or her style or her face or WHATEVER! You're not going to be able to make everybody like Tamar. I didn't care for the interview. You're not gonna change my mind. I don't like or dislike her. I wish her no ill. I hope she can finally release her album.
Why do YOU like her SO MUCH?
[Edited 7/16/06 13:15pm]

Terilicious said:

I dont care to make anyone like Tamar, people were calling her dumb and stupid based on what she said in her interview i didnt think theres enough to make a statement like that. So that makes me think its some hating going on i.e jealousy.

Theres several reasons why i like Tamar. I can elaborate more on those reasons but in a nut shell I think she has more talent than any popular R&B singer including Beyounce.

I believe Prince thinks she has more talent too. He's mentoring her in the best possible way. Yes Prince has had other protege's but this is different he doesnt have the same motivating factors as he did in his past.

Duggs said:

I like her voice on some of the stuff I've heard so far. I did not like her performance on SNL. I liked when she and the twins backed Prince on "Fury." Their voices and dancing was perfect. For some reason her performance of "Beautiful..." was kinda bland. I didn't see the GMA performance. From what I've heard so far I wouldn't say she's more talented than Beyonce.

Duggs said:

oh, ok. thanks.

Duggs said:

so you're positive he doesn't want to bone her?
i'm not denying the girl has talent ( i'm not confirming it either) and I like the song, but come on now keep it real. some of the same "motivating factors" are at work here...

adorable2 said:

Your talking to a man here, so id say im positive that he does want to bone her.
But if Prince has to co-produce her album and co write the album to get a lil action Id say Prince would have to turn in his playa card. He should have already turned it in anyways because hes married.

Then he helped her get a record deal, put her on a "mini" tour. Id say you were on to something if he didnt introduce Tamar to his fans in the manner that he did. He could have easily went on tour and performed his songs and then let Tamar do like 2 or 3 songs and that would be it. He did the exact opposite he put her in the fire and gave her the task of making Tamar fans out of Prince fans (not an easy task). Theres no singer in the game right now who would have made it this far IMO.

Duggs said:

said:

Duggs said:

Oh so u are a man you said "Anyways" in your earlier post so I just assumed... my bad. Back to the subject at hand, I was in no way trying to imply Prince doesn't see talent in Tamar, I was just refuting your claim when you were saying he has different motivations. When you get down to it, the same elements behind his past proteges are play some type of a part in what he's doing now. P is notorious for giving spotlight to chicks he's either had sex with or wants to have sex with (with few exceptions). His track record speaks for itself. Tamar may very well be the next best thing but what does that have to do with his motivation. There are many young women out there who can sing, write, produce and play there own music but unless they can convince lil P, big P won't be putting them up on stage. I have no ill will toward Tamar if she's as talented as u think ( i really haven't heard enough to make my mind up) I hope she blows every other female out ther out the water. But as far as P's motivation let's keep it real.
[Edited 7/17/06 16:42pm]

adorable2 said:[quote]

Duggs said:

Oh so u are a man you said "Anyways" in your earlier post so I just assumed... my bad. Back to the subject at hand, I was in no way trying to imply Prince doesn't see talent in Tamar, I was just refuting your claim when you were saying he has different motivations. When you get down to it, the same elements behind his past proteges are play some type of a part in what he's doing now. P is notorious for giving spotlight to chicks he's either had sex with or wants to have sex with (with few exceptions). His track record speaks for itself. Tamar may very well be the next best thing but what does that have to do with his motivation. There are many young women out there who can sing, write, produce and play there own music but unless they can convince lil P, big P won't be putting them up on stage. I have no ill will toward Tamar if she's as talented as u think ( i really haven't heard enough to make my mind up) I hope she blows every other female out ther out the water. But as far as P's motivation let's keep it real.
[Edited 7/17/06 16:42pm]
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What hes done in the past certainly play a part in what hes doinng now. Which makes me futher believe that this time he wants to do the right thing. Nobody is perfect i just think his hearts in the right place despite what lil P is talking about

BobbyPin said:

said:

PurpleCharm said:

said:

said:

"I would not be able to stand anywhere with the grace and humility
that I desire to share with any listener as I do now"

ahem...


Dear Young Tamar,

Humble aint a mini skirt and mid-riff top.

When ur a vessel for God, ya gotta do it with class.

If ur gunna put urself out there, dont talk about humility.

Be It. Let it come through in your voice. Let it be the Light in Your Eyes.

Hold on to your Mind baby girl. If he wants to be the Preacher thats OK.

But always remain a student when you speak.

God Bless darlin.

P. x

Duggs said:[quote]

adorable2 said:

we shall see! hopefully he dosn't get bored and ditch her before that happes.

sacredwarrior said:

Good advice, but...
What does a mini skirt or class have to do with humility or grace?

Duggs said:

Does Grace lure a man's eyes to her vagina when she's supposed to be a 'Vessel for God' ?

Does Humility encourage young female listeners to expose themselves in a sexually suggestive way?

When u put urself out there in the public eye....it aint just all about YOU. You have a responsibility to your audience...to uphold your highest principles...

Words like ' Vessel for God ' - Grace and Humility - set a tone... the visual image must reflect that tone.....or you'll get shot down in flames for being so Naive... and for confusing the spiritual senses of your audience.

Being in Love with Music is not about being Naive.

Being a good Singer is not about multiplatinum albums.

Being someone's student is not about Parroting their words to you in public like a mind-controlled pup.

Being a Great Entertainer is about the Liberation you share with your audience...in the Highest Degree... by Knowing Who You Are... not who someone else thinks you are.

Sex might sell rekkids...but it doesnt Liberate Minds. It liberates hormones that rise and fade...creating an addiction.

Spirit on the other hand frees ur listeners with no strings attached....its a Giving...not an enticement.

This is the difference between being GREEN and being PINK.

A Princess is Old enough to Know Better, Young enough to still Know Who She Is, and Present enough to Respect what Music is All About.

P.

sacredwarrior said:[quote]

Duggs said:

I'll plead the FIF on that ? thank you

Does Humility encourage young female listeners to expose themselves in a sexually suggestive way?

I assume you think Tamar is encouraging female listeners to expose themselves in a sexually way. I really think your barking up the wrong tree.

When u put urself out there in the public eye....it aint just all about YOU. You have a responsibility to your audience...to uphold your highest principles...

Words like ' Vessel for God ' - Grace and Humility - set a tone... the visual image must reflect that tone.....or you'll get shot down in flames for being so Naive... and for confusing the spiritual senses of your audience.

Being in Love with Music is not about being Naive.

good point, what does it have to do with Tamar?

Being a good Singer is not about multiplatinum albums.

Where did Tamar make that statement?

Being someone's student is not about Parroting their words to you in public like a mind-controlled pup.

Just doesnt stick in reguards to Tamar.

Being a Great Entertainer is about the Liberation you share with your audience...in the Highest Degree... by Knowing Who You Are... not who someone else thinks you are.

Again wrong tree, what makes you think Tamar doesnt know who she is???

Sex might sell rekkids...but it doesnt Liberate Minds. It liberates hormones that rise and fade...creating an addiction.

Tamar is not selling sex, shes just sexy. stop hating


thanks for answering my questions, you are very wise. Im still curious how you came to such complete conclusions about Tamar?
Me personally I havent heard or seen enough of Tamar to make those kind of statements she still gets the benefit of the doubt in my book.

Duggs said:

thanks for answering my questions,

ur welcome


Im still curious how you came to such complete conclusions about Tamar?

s'funny cuz i was gunna ask you the same thing.....

mind sharing that with us ?

sacredwarrior said:

You first, lol
No i dont mind, lets see well i read her bio and was impressed. I went to the Angaaza website thats the all girl jazz/funk band she was in. Those ladies wanted to bring positive good music for us to enjoy.
Prince isnt the only artist shes worked with, shes sung with a lot of great artists whether it was singing back up or lead.

I like Tamar, i like her even more because the music industry is so void of real talent.

Its like nowadays record labels find these young skinny so called pretty girls with minimal talent and put them out there. Then once they hit big its like hey now let me get voice lessons and learn how to sing, for the next album. After that album its like well let me get dance lessons now. Whats left well ive done like 5 or 6 music videos its time to learn how to act. I think thats ass backwards, and thats how things are done nowadays.

So the bottom line is, so far i think Tamar has done a great job for her career everybody makes mistakes and nobody is perfect. And if my daughter wanted to be an entertainer then I would say at this point in time, be like Tamar and dont do what everyone else is doing

CuntOMatic said:

COSIGN!


Tamar: Waking up every morning does not actually make you feel any different than
before. Its the birthdays and the holidays and the performances and being able
to afford a gift here and there that reminds me that I am living out my dream.
To be mentored by Prince is very imaginable. Anyone can be in my shoes its just
how you attain yourself to learn and grow under the leadership of wise council,
it just so happens to be Prince. Everyday is not the same. Some days are harder
than others but it never makes me regret anything. But in the process when you
continue to pray for leadership and guidance you have to enjoy every moment in
your life. My real dreams have yet to be experienced and I use everyday as if it
were the first.
[Edited 7/20/06 7:09am]

what i find ironic is if you look at tamar's interview back in high school (i posted it here sometime last year), nowhere in that interview does she mention Prince, or any of the others involved with him musically (i.e. chaka khan) as an inspiration, nor did she even list him as a musician that she listened to. but now, he and others involved with him musically were her influences growing up? So how is that the musical influences from her child years a few years ago are different than the child influences from her chil years now? I'm not hating or anything, but that is an "ass kissing" response. She didn't acknowledge Prince or other related artists before, but now she does.

I like her voice, I think she has talent, but unfortunately, with Prince's history and female proteges, Buggs, you even have to admit that one. It is hard for anyone to take anything serious in the beginning when it comes to Prince's proteges, especially in light of the latest postponement (yet again) of Tamar's album. It is possible this album may never see the light of day, given history.

txladykat said:

Yeah, I noticed that there was no mention of Prince in the high school article. Maybe she felt she would have hurt Prince's feelings if she didn't list him now as one of her influences.
[Edited 7/22/06 21:24pm]

PurpleCharm said:

duggs, u quoted but didnt reply...were u trying to say something?

txladykat said:

no that was a mistake i had to go to work so couldnt edit it.

I find it ironic that you and PurpleCharm have given me the bulk of my info on Tamar. You ladies look at the limited info we know on Tamar objectively.

Tamar basically lets you know how she feels about being a Prince "protege" and how she is going to be type-casted, in this interview. She understands what shes up against.

About her not listed Prince as in influence in high school but now she does.

The H.S article was done in H.S, maybe Prince was not an influence at the time. If you read her bio page on the website of the all-girl band she was apart of. They ask her what her "gulity pleasures" were musically she said Prince's Kiss is her favorite song to get wild and crazy to.

When she answered the ? in this interview, i think she just gave an generic answer and listed her musically influences ALL together. I doubt that Lauyrn Hill influcenced her as a "CHILD". And there is no ? that Prince has influenced her now
[Edited 7/23/06 19:10pm]

txladykat said:

You said "Buggs"...


About the Prince influence, I was curious about that too. I think it's because she wasn't directly influenced by him until much later in her career, which will probably work in her favor. I also think if anybody has the potential to break the alleged "protege pattern", it's Tamar.

This was a cool interview and gave more insight into Tamar as a person -- her beliefs, work ethics, etc. But it certainly sheds some light on Prince as well. He is obviously not the "prothelytizing-freak-pusher-for-the-JW-religion" the media makes him out to be because if he was, why is he promoting someone who is obviously not a JW?

babynoz said:

freudian slip? LOL, Just kidding..no offense meant toward "Duggs"