Folks were so happy to even see Purple Rain brought back to life that they didn't give a fuck if Grover from Sesame Street was on guitar. Just as long as they did The Bird.

Yeah, I knew that would get all u sleepy heads attention. But dig though, it's largely true. Not the creative process of writing and playing and producing, but the heat the o.g. lineup of The Time put on P in late 81-early 82. Look, the material P cut for The Time's first album was material P COULD have done for himself after Dirty Mind. BUT, P wanted to look deeper into what he thought to be a "crossover" market that spelled $$$ and stardom. That, so he thought, wasn't going to happen with the material from The Time's album. It was "too black" sounding to crossover. Even though it outsold Dirty Mind. Next up is Controversy, which besides the title cut and "Let's Work", it's a patchy album at best. Not half as cohesive and focused as Dirty Mind or The Time's first album. Then came "What Time Is It?". The cuts on this was blistering. "777-9311", "The Walk" and "Wild and Loose" was kicking major ass on a lot of what P himself was doing. Snce P wrote these songs, he has, as he has said, created a monster. Now when it comes time for him to cut his next album, he's not so quick to toss off material to The Time like he was in the past. "International Lover" was at first intended for The Time. P retracted that. If The Time didn't exist, would P had released something like "D.M.S.R."? That song was the closest thing, musically, to The Time that P had released under his name. One of the main things that made the 1999 album so brilliant is that P is pulling out all the stops. Why? One, is to show that he's harder than The Time. Three words; Lady Cab Driver. One word; Automatic. The very essence of what The Time was about, P had to outshine. I believe this fueld the making of the 1999 album. Your thoughts?

blackguitaristz said:

I totally agree. After his experiences with the Time, Prince would never again be so generous with his compositions. Kiss was a Prince song he originally gave to Mazzarati and then he taken back. Good thing too. Kiss was one of the few hits to come off the Parade album. I miss the Time. Sure, they're touring and all that. But no new material. Morris Day's latest offering is a disappointment to say the least. All of which leads me to conclude that the Time needs Prince's influence. Maybe not onstage, but in the studio -- definitely! Artistically, Prince and his protegees can only benefit from collaborating again. It's doubtful, however, that it'll ever happen again.

brothaluv said:

i agree with what your trying to say in this post but prince was actually given "Kiss" by Mazarati. They wrote the original draft. Prince added flavor and gave it to them and realized what a good song it was and took it back. Mazarati have said that the song wouldnt have been anything without Prince's contribution. But they planted the seed which in my book should give them 50/50 credit for the tune, with prince.

sosgemini said:

I thought Prince came up with "Kiss" on acoustic guitar, and then he gave it to Mazarati, who fleshed it out along with David Z, I believe?
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CreamyThighs said:

that what I thought too Creamy and here goes the link here to back your claim and it is the excerpt from Uptown magazine. http://www.housequake.com...adid=33396
[Edited 12/4/05 12:18pm]

i agree with what your trying to say in this post but prince was actually given "Kiss" by Mazarati. They wrote the original draft. Prince added flavor and gave it to them and realized what a good song it was and took it back. Mazarati have said that the song wouldnt have been anything without Prince's contribution. But they planted the seed which in my book should give them 50/50 credit for the tune, with prince.