JediMaster said:

Well Jedi, on this point, even if Prince had been having an affair with Mani in the past, that wouldn't be the elder's business, if Prince had repented of his past attitude. Ya know? The past is the past, and one has to forgive (of course some time has to pass too, depending on the circumstances, to demonstrate the repentance)...

Heiress said:

Gotcha. I agree. I'm really just trying to note that all the rumours about Prince, Mani & Mayte are just that: rumours. There are some holes in the theories, and I thought it would be a good idea to point out one of them.

PanicAttack said:

Why do women always blame women? don't you think Prince was just as guilty? HE was a willing participate. HE cheated on Mayte with Mani. HE is just as guilty. Mani didn't put a gun to his head. It kills me how woman always blame women. You should Hate Prince as well!

and no I don't hate Mani. I love the way she dresses.

JediMaster said:

Yep yep yep. There's an odd (and might I add, immature and paranoid) tendency on these boards to the effect that the JWs are desperate to have Prince among the rolls, and will put up with any amount of crap from him to do so.

Let me just maintain here that this is SO NOT the case.

Sex outside of marriage is fornication. Most true christians would not have sex with anyone they are not married to....
Secondly just because the man does not deny rumors doesn't make them true
don't believe whatever you read...the only truth so far is Mani did work at paisley park but gilbert davidson was running the company at that time.
hint-hint.
Most religions like to use certian celebrities to further their cause.
It is not a coincidence that everyone around P is a JW. But then
Terry Lewis is a JW. and most of his friends growing up were....

First of all....I think JWs r aware that not everybody is, so most of ppl has different behaviour. Im a musician too...personally I dont care about the behaviour of who worx with me....
Im not yet JW...therefore I think that only God is allowed 2 judge ppl.

Mr7??!!??? I agree with ya




***

I agree and see where you are coming from (I love Larry).

However, how do you know that was why Larry did not participate in the 'Hit and Run' Tour?

That was never officially announced. What is your source?

Are you not just using one unverified story to rubbish another unverified story?[/quote]

I like Mayte.

2day I had the piano lesson....I've risked 2 laugh on face of the teacher bcuz I was imagining him if I asked: "Excuse me *****, do ya cheat ur wife?"

Lilith said:

No matter how many times it is said that JW's don't judge people it's usually the feeling presented. True spirituality, love for one another, goodwill for others is set by example not by words of condemnation.
I don't know Mani and think that it's unfair to judge anyone without knowing all of the specifics. It's difficult to say if you 'like' someone when the example being set contradicts professed beliefs and there may be more to the story than what meets the eye.
[Edited 11/19/05 3:38am]

First of all, 98% of us have never even met Mani so how can we say if we like her or not?

She seems like a good choice for Prince and he seems happy with her. If she did seduce him while he was married to Mayte, it is mostly his fault for allowing her to seduce him. As a married woman, I have had men try to seduce me, but I have to be the one to put a hault to it and not let things go too far. Prince allowed things to progress with Mani which may have led to his separation from Mayte. Also, not that I know this for sure, but I suspect Mayte wanted nothing to do with his new found JW religion and Mani did, so that attracted him too. Mani seems very classy and does not seem like a bimbo type at all.

From what I've seen of both women, they both seem down to earth and likeable.

Who knows if Prince and Mani will stay together or not. I say they will not but I say that because I feel that Prince will be the one to end it by going off with other women. If they do stay together, that would be great. I'd like to see him in a long term relationship and perhaps even with kids one day. In the meantime, don't hate on his wife when you don't even know her.

I think SOMEONE who WORKS IN PRINCE"S CAMP DOESN"T LIKE HER and IS SPREADING these RUMORS. It is SOMEONE who WORKS and KNOWS the INSIDE SCOOP. PRINCE NEEDS TO FIRE HIM OR HER..... It is an INSIDER WHO DISLIKES MANUELA. SOMEONE she is giving ORDERS to. MAKING UP THINGS. I say that MAYTE and Him were DIVORCED SINCE 1996 so how is it they were MARRIED OR CHEATING? NOT TRUE! He was OVER MAYTE since 1996. Maybe , he still was Sleeping with her and MANUELA also. Mayte was a FREE WOMAN since 1996. Maybe he didn't want her to leave but ACCEPT his INFIDELITIES and SHE WOULDN"T. If he Wasn't iNTO MANUELA WHY WOULD he MARRY HER? It's really STUPID. He Isn't going back with SHELIA E or JILL or SUSANNAH. He is with MANI RIGHT NOW.

It depends if he wants to Stay with the PARTY MENTALITY or DOES HE WANT CHILDREN and ALL. Which Way does he want to go? If he isn't having kids he should be SINGLE REALLY. Unless he is TOO SCARED OF AIDS,BUT the WOMEN he would Dally with could get TESTED so what is the PROBLEM? If he wants to he could have EVERY WOMAN he DESIRES. WHY COULDN"T HE? IT is HIS WISH. AND BY the way they say AIDS is DOWN..... Ya just get TESTED and USE CONDOMS. Ya Be CAREFUL.....

Zelaira said:

I think your facts are wrong.

Zelaira said:

Look Zel...this is the thing. Rich, famous people...they have a totally different lifestyle than most of us. Do you know how many of them have affairs and their wives are totally accepting of it. Like they don't want it rubbed in their faces but they know. I know LOTS of women I work with who see Vikings and Timberwolves regularly and who are married or engaged. I can see Prince totally messing around on Mayte and her just accepting it or turning a blind eye. But I really do hope that Mani doesn't tolorate it....because JW are not suppose to be doing that stuff. But Prince is a man and they get horny so who knows really.

I adore Prince. Mani is freaking me out, i mean Prince is smart and sexy but no way on earth did i think Prince would hang out with a girl like her. It maybe the latest fashion for him, a trendy statement... a way to gain friends, or something

... Mayte was great fun as his side-kick but it's obvious that Prince and Mayte were never meant to be husband and wife until death do them part... i wish them all the best, all of them. Love4oneanother!!!!
[Edited 11/18/05 16:01pm]

Krystal666 said:

Yuck- that's so sad, music-business men and women...being dirty, foul-mouthed, druggy and happy-go-lucky ain't enough...humanity people, that counts


a woman should be able to hold her own and get about in this world without being disrespected and humilated. There's more to life and it's about time.

The only REASON I am saying this is because ALOT of FANS were saying STUFF about Manuela. It SEEMED as if SOMEONE who WORKED at PAISLEY was telling the FANS STUff. I Don't Know about PRINCE's DALLIANCES. Maybe he DOES CHEAT with DIFFERENT WOMEN....WHO KNOWS REALLY? I DON"T. I WISH I DID KNOW...

chunky said:

i'm confused how you can hold this opinion yet just recently post here on the
Org how you thought it was really "brilliant" and "sexy" of Prince to be so (brutally and, imo, rather cruelly) honest and tell someone (a woman) that she's ugly, or is unattractive due to her size or weight, etc.? isn't insulting a woman, based purely on superficial criteria such as body size or what her face looks like, 'disrespecting' and 'humiliating' her? i know I'D feel disrespected and humiliated if some guy - Prince or other - told me such things, either alone or (worse yet) in front of other people.

i am confused because, on another recent thread, you'd quoted my statement (pertaining to what Prince allegedly said at one his concerts about a woman whose photo he showed up on the big screen to the entire audience): "I wouldn't be seen sitting with a chick like her" or something like that. he didn't need to make any remarks about any of those people, he couldn't just kept his opinions to himself."

and you responded: "well, it's most sexy of him not to have kept this opinion to himself... don't ask me why, him saying that makes him appear more brilliant...just my reaction."

so what exactly, speaking as a woman, is *your* personal definition of being "humiliated" and "disrespected" by a man? and in what special circumstances does such treatment of a woman go from being disrespectful and humiliating into becoming 'brilliant' and 'sexy' instead?
[Edited 11/18/05 17:54pm]

FIRST OFF WHERE IS SOME OF HIS friends so great looking OR even SOME OF THESE Celebrities? HE IS GONNA TELL STUFF TO HIS friends? HE'S GONNA INSULT ALOT OF FAMOUS PEOPLE? THAT IS Crazy. PRINCE HAS RESPECT FOR HIS FRIENDS. I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE TO BE FASHION MODELS NOR HIS WOMEN ARE FASHION MODELS. NOT EVERYONE THINKS HIS TYPE IS SO HOT LOOKING YA KNOW ALOT OF GUYS DIG PAM ANDERSON TYPES . SO IT'S HIS TYPE YA KNOW. ALSO , I THINK IT'S PERSONALITY.

MrsJimmyFallon said:

i never said what you said i said. i told of my immediate reaction, if prince ever said about any woman... "I wouldn't be seen sitting with a chick like her"... it was not clear or sure anywhere in that thread whether the "chick" was ugly, fat or whatever...geesh, no need to misconstrue since you don't know what i think anyway



well, and i never spoke of MEN or any MAN disrepecting or humiliating... i didn't make a gender issue out of it like you are.

hey, but thanks for noticing my posts!
[Edited 11/18/05 18:04pm]

chunky said:

really? i went back to that thread and cut and pasted the exact post verbatim, so what i posted here is precisely what YOU posted on that thread.

here's the thread in case you want to check it out: http://www.prince.org/msg/7/167098



misconstrue? i posted exactly what YOU said on that thread. maybe i'm not misconstuing anything. if you think i'm misunderstanding your opinion/thoughts/stance, maybe you need to articulate yourself more clearly so as to effectively communicate what it is you're trying to say.







um, okay. lol. then i honestly don't even know what it is you're trying to say at all.
[Edited 11/18/05 18:10pm]

chunky said:

yeah, well some posts around here are hard not to notice, kind of in that way like how you notice farts in an crowded elevator or when someone has dog crap stuck to the bottom of their shoe.

MrsJimmyFallon said:

speaking as a woman, nyaa, nyaa, nyaa... likewise, sassy!
[Edited 11/18/05 20:02pm]

chunky said:

thanks for your mature, intelligent and thoughtful contribution to our discussion.

let's let this go now, shall we?

MrsJimmyFallon said:

yea, sure ...i'm a busy woman, it's not easy to concentrate 100% on each and every post when i'm doing a couple of other things at the same time
[Edited 11/18/05 20:20pm]

chunky said:

i understand that and know what you mean.

chunky said:

What do you mean a "a girl like her"? I think Mani is very beautiful actually.

It's so Dumb Cause she is VERY Beautiful, but I Think alot of Fans just were thinking he'd be with a CARMEN ELECTRA TYPE OR MAYTE. They Thought PLAYBOY MODEL TYPE.

She looks "nice".

Got to add my two cents...Don't believe everything that you read.
Fact #1 And a hint...The club Glamslam? had how many go-go dancers???
Also-another hint...Carmen,Mayte,Mani-worked with each other where..
Charlene Friend the girl that sued over a jacket??? Did the interior design for the club and was hired to do so by Gilbert Davidson...
Fact #2- Gilbert took 2 hour lunch breaks where I will not metion some before mentioned girls joined him when they were under the age of 18.
Nobodies hands are totally clean here.
Fact #3- Some of the mess that went on at that time could be well used to black mail someone at a later date. smile.
Fact#4- Duane Nelson was fired during this time not because he was crazy--he was the only one that had a problem with a 13 year old Ms. Mani being at paisley park.???
Fact#5-They all end up in the same place when done???
Moral of the lesson today class use your 15 minutes wisely....