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Thread started 11/04/05 4:53pm

BEAUGARDE

Morris Day vs. Alexander O'Neal

I just had the biggest argument with a buddy of mines and he is swearing that Alexander O'Neal is better than ol' Morris. I really can't C this, maybe some of U can me
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Reply #1 posted 11/04/05 7:53pm

MidnightFunk

BEAUGARDE said:

I just had the biggest argument with a buddy of mines and he is swearing that Alexander O'Neal is better than ol' Morris. I really can't C this, maybe some of U can me



I was lucky enuf 2 see Alexander O'Neal open for The Time this summer in Akron, Ohio....

Alexander is a great R&B Singer and put on a real cool show...

but

The Time would have NEVER been "THE TIME" without Morris....

period...end of story....
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Reply #2 posted 11/05/05 7:06am

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If by better you mean a better vocalist then HELL YES Alexander is a better vocalist. All you have to do is examine Morris's solo work against Alexander's to hear that. Morris's personality was much better suited for the Time. Bottom line is Morris NEEDED the Time; Alexander was a solo act and although he didn't acheive the success that the Time did, he did make his way on his own accord. He proved that he had something without the Prince/WB machine that was working back then Jimmy & Terry saw something in him - a good vocalist. The interest in the Time centered around Morris & Jerome; mainly because Morris's character was so flamboyant and the man knows how to work an audience.
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Reply #3 posted 11/05/05 3:26pm

BEAUGARDE

No, I meant as song 4 song. Which artist would U rather hear?
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Reply #4 posted 11/05/05 8:00pm

brothaluv

Who would I rather hear? Depends on whether you want to dance or snuggle? Normally, I would choose Morris and the Time. They have more fun onstage. But if I were alone with my girl, I'd probably prefer O'Neal.
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Reply #5 posted 11/05/05 8:32pm

MidnightFunk

BEAUGARDE said:

No, I meant as song 4 song. Which artist would U rather hear?



The Time...any....um...."time" eek
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Reply #6 posted 11/06/05 10:35am

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BEAUGARDE said:

No, I meant as song 4 song. Which artist would U rather hear?


It depends. Morris solo vs. Alex, I choose Alex.

The Time vs Alex then the Time easily.
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Reply #7 posted 11/06/05 12:22pm

BEAUGARDE

No, not as a solo. Overall!
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Reply #8 posted 11/06/05 12:32pm

tbag

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They're both great but Morris is the comedian and Alex is the smooth lova man
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Reply #9 posted 11/06/05 2:44pm

MidnightFunk

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No, not as a solo. Overall!




OVER ALL....Morris.... cool
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Reply #10 posted 11/09/05 8:05am

sonofblade

Alex was not good looking enough and too sweaty to be the frontman of a pretty boy group like The Time.
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Reply #11 posted 11/09/05 8:29am

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The Time never touched anything as emotional and beautiful as "What Is This Thing Called Love".....


and if your including Morris' work with The Time then you have to count Alex's work with Cherelle...


My vote? Alex...Alex baby!!
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Reply #12 posted 11/09/05 8:30am

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sonofblade said:

Alex was not good looking enough and too sweaty to be the frontman of a pretty boy group like The Time.



i thought we were talking about music? not image. no?

imagewise? The Time. but if we get into that then we would all have to acknowledge Madonna is better then Prince.
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Reply #13 posted 11/09/05 10:00am

BEAUGARDE

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sonofblade said:

Alex was not good looking enough and too sweaty to be the frontman of a pretty boy group like The Time.



i thought we were talking about music? not image. no?

imagewise? The Time. but if we get into that then we would all have to acknowledge Madonna is better then Prince.

What?!
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Reply #14 posted 11/09/05 1:09pm

sosgemini

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BEAUGARDE said:

sosgemini said:




i thought we were talking about music? not image. no?

imagewise? The Time. but if we get into that then we would all have to acknowledge Madonna is better then Prince.

What?!


what are we talking about here? a better musical artist? a better entertainer? a better singer?
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Reply #15 posted 11/09/05 2:18pm

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freakin apples and funkin oranges confused
due to the content i suggest you like this...
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Reply #16 posted 11/10/05 3:38am

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Alexander O'Neil is definately a better singer than Morris Day but I prefer Morris Day. Alexander O'Neil has some jams but just not enough of them. Actually, I only like two of them...."Innocent" and "Fake". Everything else is too damn slow.
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #17 posted 11/10/05 6:22am

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vainandy said:

Alexander O'Neil is definately a better singer than Morris Day but I prefer Morris Day. Alexander O'Neil has some jams but just not enough of them. Actually, I only like two of them...."Innocent" and "Fake". Everything else is too damn slow.



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Reply #18 posted 11/10/05 10:10am

BEAUGARDE

Alexander is not really considered a great vocalist, no more than Morris anyways. And it's not like Morris is horrifying 2 listen 2. If U had a choice between Morris Day (including The Time) and Alexander O'Neal's greatest hits and U only have enough loot 4 1 CD, who's would U buy? And I'm including The Time's songs b'cuz Morris doesn't have enough solo efforts and The Time is basically Morris and Prince anyways.
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Reply #19 posted 11/10/05 12:54pm

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BEAUGARDE said:

Alexander is not really considered a great vocalist, no more than Morris anyways. And it's not like Morris is horrifying 2 listen 2. If U had a choice between Morris Day (including The Time) and Alexander O'Neal's greatest hits and U only have enough loot 4 1 CD, who's would U buy? And I'm including The Time's songs b'cuz Morris doesn't have enough solo efforts and The Time is basically Morris and Prince anyways.



Like many Prince fans, you ask a question and then qualify it. Your initial question was leading in the direction of Alex vs. Morris as a vocalist. Alexander is considered a good vocalist. Not Luther level, but at least Keith Sweat level. Morris is considered a good SHOWMAN. If you're asking who's the better singer - its ALEXANDER O'NEAL hands down. The better showman? Morris. I have the Alexander Live in London vid. He's nothing to sneeze at as a showman, either. He looked like the lost member of the Time lol but he was pretty decent.
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Reply #20 posted 11/10/05 1:35pm

BEAUGARDE

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BEAUGARDE said:

Alexander is not really considered a great vocalist, no more than Morris anyways. And it's not like Morris is horrifying 2 listen 2. If U had a choice between Morris Day (including The Time) and Alexander O'Neal's greatest hits and U only have enough loot 4 1 CD, who's would U buy? And I'm including The Time's songs b'cuz Morris doesn't have enough solo efforts and The Time is basically Morris and Prince anyways.



Like many Prince fans, you ask a question and then qualify it. Your initial question was leading in the direction of Alex vs. Morris as a vocalist. Alexander is considered a good vocalist. Not Luther level, but at least Keith Sweat level. Morris is considered a good SHOWMAN. If you're asking who's the better singer - its ALEXANDER O'NEAL hands down. The better showman? Morris. I have the Alexander Live in London vid. He's nothing to sneeze at as a showman, either. He looked like the lost member of the Time lol but he was pretty decent.

1) What I mean is who has the better songs
2) I don't think Keith Sweat is that great as a vocalist either. He's a winer. I think Morris & Alex R better than Keith but that's just my opinion. I never said anything about any of these people being good or bad vocalist. I would never consider them vocalist, just pop stars like Janet and Madonna.
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Reply #21 posted 11/10/05 2:10pm

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BEAUGARDE said:


1) What I mean is who has the better songs
2) I don't think Keith Sweat is that great as a vocalist either. He's a winer. I think Morris & Alex R better than Keith but that's just my opinion. I never said anything about any of these people being good or bad vocalist. I would never consider them vocalist, just pop stars like Janet and Madonna.



Better songs? Comparing strictly solo work, Alexander. Including the Time's work, Morris.
Keith Sweat IS a whiner but he's also a decent vocalist. I don't like his TONE but I wouldn't say he can't sing. Alex is a decent vocalist. Morris can't really sing that well to me. If you see both Alex and Morris live, you'll hear that Alex does much more with his voice than Morris does. Writingwise, I think Alex's songs are better IMO overall. I think Jam & Lewis did right by him as opposed to Morris's solo project producers. Not including the Time's work, I'd rather make an A. O'Neal CD rather than a Morris Day CD to listen to.
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Reply #22 posted 11/11/05 10:18am

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BEAUGARDE said:

No, I meant as song 4 song. Which artist would U rather hear?


Morris Day without a doubt!!! biggrin
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Reply #23 posted 11/12/05 1:05pm

heckaslammin

I would rather hear Morris Day, however Alex has an incredible voice. I just can't picture him fronting the time. He was a little older than the rest of those guys, I think his ambitions might have been a little different at the time the group was getting pieced together. Morris is a natural for the role.
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Reply #24 posted 11/13/05 9:05am

Rhondab

BlaqueKnight said:

BEAUGARDE said:

Alexander is not really considered a great vocalist, no more than Morris anyways. And it's not like Morris is horrifying 2 listen 2. If U had a choice between Morris Day (including The Time) and Alexander O'Neal's greatest hits and U only have enough loot 4 1 CD, who's would U buy? And I'm including The Time's songs b'cuz Morris doesn't have enough solo efforts and The Time is basically Morris and Prince anyways.



Like many Prince fans, you ask a question and then qualify it. Your initial question was leading in the direction of Alex vs. Morris as a vocalist. Alexander is considered a good vocalist. Not Luther level, [b]but at least Keith Sweat level. Morris is considered a good SHOWMAN. If you're asking who's the better singer - its ALEXANDER O'NEAL hands down. The better showman? Morris. I have the Alexander Live in London vid. He's nothing to sneeze at as a showman, either. He looked like the lost member of the Time lol but he was pretty decent. [/b]


I think Alexander is better than Keith.


but I do agree with the rest of your assessments. nod

I will say one thing about Keith Sweat, he does sound the same live eek

lol
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Reply #25 posted 11/13/05 9:10am

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He sounds the same live?
Not sure if that's a compliment or a criticism. lol Keith's voice really annoys me. I'll admit that I did kinda like "Right and a wrong way to love somebody" though.
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Reply #26 posted 11/13/05 9:15am

sonofblade

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sonofblade said:

Alex was not good looking enough and too sweaty to be the frontman of a pretty boy group like The Time.



i thought we were talking about music? not image. no?

imagewise? The Time. but if we get into that then we would all have to acknowledge Madonna is better then Prince.



Who said we were only talking about music? THe inital post doesnt make any distinction between music and image. If you dont think iamge is important in pop music, you are delusional. It makes a difference. I am speaking on why Morris was better for the Time than Alex would have been - that is the issue here. THe Time would not be as popular as they are with Alex even though he is a better singer. Image had everything to do with it when it comes to Morris Day.

Miopic generalizations about Madonna vs Prince dont make that argument valid - just shortsighted and sensationalized.
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Reply #27 posted 11/13/05 11:16am

sosgemini

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sonofblade said:


Who said we were only talking about music?



uhh..hence I asking for clarification.


chew on that for a lil bit...and then reconsider the rest of your rant.
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Reply #28 posted 11/14/05 7:51pm

roodboi

Overall...Alexander...this is just my opinion, but I think his songs are a lil' more "listenable" as the years pass..I'm not discounting any Morris/Time work..I love them both but I can listen to Alex anytime, whereas; I need to be in the mood for Morris and the boys...
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Reply #29 posted 11/15/05 5:18am

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sosgemini said:

sonofblade said:

Alex was not good looking enough and too sweaty to be the frontman of a pretty boy group like The Time.



i thought we were talking about music? not image. no?

imagewise? The Time. but if we get into that then we would all have to acknowledge Madonna is better then Prince.

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Madonna is not better than Prince at all. She is not a better singer or performer.

Never has been never will be and I actually like some her stuff. She is just not on his level. Even some of the music critics are starting to see that finally.
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