independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Associated artists & people > Susannah Vs other Prince 's women
« Previous topic  Next topic »
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Author

Tweet     Share

Message
Thread started 08/26/05 4:55pm

acjohns

Susannah Vs other Prince 's women

img#3719



Hi Everyone,


After reading a book by Liz Jones about Prince,I discovered that Prince was secretly engaged to and madly inlove with Susannah Melvoin. She is the twin sister to guitarist Wendy Melvoin of the revolution. I was surprised. Many people always speak about Prince's other past love intersts but they hardly ever mention Susannah.Liz Jones stated that Prince was the one who called of the engagement/wedding. neutral Jones also stated that while Prince was with Susannah, he wrote/created alot of songs like If I was your girlfriend,Strange Relationship,Nothing compares to u,Forever in my life.And basically many songs on the PARADE album.

He was with her for like 3-4 years.That is longer than his marriage to Mayte and suppossedly his relationship with Manuela.

Does anyone have any thoughts about this?

Does any one have any pictures of Susannah?




Peace and God Bless wink
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1 posted 08/26/05 5:22pm

DiamondGirl

yawn
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #2 posted 08/26/05 6:48pm

sosgemini

avatar

susannah is always discussed here..check out the associated artist section..


and visit www.girlbroslandia.org.


wink
Space for sale...
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #3 posted 08/28/05 12:23pm

cranshaw62

Let's compare the songs he wrote that were inspired by his ladies. (All of his ladies are great BTW.) I think most agree that "The Beautiful Ones" was his most passionate performance.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #4 posted 08/30/05 10:09am

txladykat

avatar

cranshaw62 said:

Let's compare the songs he wrote that were inspired by his ladies. (All of his ladies are great BTW.) I think most agree that "The Beautiful Ones" was his most passionate performance.


definately, and written for susannah....before they were dating i believe, right?
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #5 posted 08/30/05 10:17am

Jaarod86

txladykat said:

cranshaw62 said:

Let's compare the songs he wrote that were inspired by his ladies. (All of his ladies are great BTW.) I think most agree that "The Beautiful Ones" was his most passionate performance.


definately, and written for susannah....before they were dating i believe, right?

I dont think that one was written for Susannah (atleast not according to Possessed).
it dont mean Ure wrecked jus cause me tallywackin sucking is all U want. all it means is that the one that come b4 me never made U come.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #6 posted 08/30/05 10:20am

Jaarod86

AC, u can see a picture of susannah if u look at the cover of "The Family". She's standing with.....gosh, cant remember that dude's name.
it dont mean Ure wrecked jus cause me tallywackin sucking is all U want. all it means is that the one that come b4 me never made U come.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #7 posted 08/30/05 10:21am

Jaarod86

Prince also wrote empty room after his break up with Susannah, (which is also around the time he made the "...negative" black ablum)
it dont mean Ure wrecked jus cause me tallywackin sucking is all U want. all it means is that the one that come b4 me never made U come.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #8 posted 08/30/05 10:28am

Jaarod86

Jaarod86 said:

AC, u can see a picture of susannah if u look at the cover of "The Family". She's standing with.....gosh, cant remember that dude's name.


OH YEAH! St. Paul Peterson. Go here: www.dtt-lyrics.com/related/family.html
[Edited 8/30/05 10:28am]
it dont mean Ure wrecked jus cause me tallywackin sucking is all U want. all it means is that the one that come b4 me never made U come.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #9 posted 08/30/05 10:57am

Daywalker77

You all are forgetting one of his greatest slow jams that was inspired bt her,
Adore.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #10 posted 08/31/05 2:24am

susannah

there is a pic of Susannah to my left!!

Ive always said all the best love/heartbreak songs were inspired by her, and while this is easily debatable, the fact remains that he had his most prolific period in the mid-eighties, coincidentally while he was with Susannah. Many people think he never quite got over her. It would seem they broke up because of a big mistake on his part, he couldnt take the commitment or the pressure or something...

Susannah rocks.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #11 posted 09/01/05 7:44pm

dustysgirl

I read that she was very happy while engaged to him and deeply in love, and while he was in Europe on tour, he broke off their engagement. Something about him wanting to see other women or something like that.

Anyway, I've always liked her best out of Prince's women. She was one of the few who didn't seem to fit into the exotic Barbie doll role that he usually goes for. Plus, I look like her. wink
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #12 posted 09/02/05 10:35am

Krystal666

avatar

She seemed like one of the more intellegent ones! biggrin
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #13 posted 09/03/05 8:37am

susannah

Krystal666 said:

She seemed like one of the more intellegent ones! biggrin


Amen to that!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #14 posted 09/04/05 1:16am

Heiress

sosgemini said:

susannah is always discussed here..check out the associated artist section..


and visit www.girlbroslandia.org.


wink


you are ALL OVER that forum. lol
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #15 posted 09/04/05 7:20am

lulirom

avatar

Jaarod86 said:

txladykat said:



definately, and written for susannah....before they were dating i believe, right?

I dont think that one was written for Susannah (atleast not according to Possessed).


I remember reading it was written for Susannah when they weren't dating yet because she was dating someone else before Prince and he wanted her to date him... or something like that...
*********************************
"don't mind me: I'm just jamming"
*********************************
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #16 posted 09/04/05 7:38am

lulirom

avatar

acjohns said:

img#3719

Does any one have any pictures of Susannah?





Remember the "Girls and Boys" video? wink

And this one here is from a rehearsal in 1990:

wink
*********************************
"don't mind me: I'm just jamming"
*********************************
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #17 posted 09/04/05 9:28am

ThePunisher

lulirom said:

acjohns said:

img#3719

Does any one have any pictures of Susannah?





Remember the "Girls and Boys" video? wink

And this one here is from a rehearsal in 1990:

wink

I remember the Girls and Boys video. Mainly the end when Prince says "Boo!! and Jerome falls on the floor dying of laughter
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #18 posted 09/04/05 9:58am

lulirom

avatar

ThePunisher said:



I remember the Girls and Boys video. Mainly the end when Prince says "Boo!! and Jerome falls on the floor dying of laughter


lol
*********************************
"don't mind me: I'm just jamming"
*********************************
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #19 posted 09/04/05 10:09am

Jaarod86

lulirom said:

Jaarod86 said:


I dont think that one was written for Susannah (atleast not according to Possessed).


I remember reading it was written for Susannah when they weren't dating yet because she was dating someone else before Prince and he wanted her to date him... or something like that...


not sayin ure wrong or anything like that, but Possessed said the he wrote the song for Apolonia b/c he wanted to be with her and he wanted her to take Vanity's place in PR and in Vanity 6, (all this supposably happened shortly after he fired Vanity). It said somethin like she wanted to stay in NY with her bf but she changed her mind after Prince wrote the beautiful ones for her. But i dunno, u could very well be right. Considering he say's paint a perfect picture bring to life a vision in one's mind... and for suhannah to be a painter at that. I wouldnt be suprised if he did write it 4 her. but like i said, i dunno.
it dont mean Ure wrecked jus cause me tallywackin sucking is all U want. all it means is that the one that come b4 me never made U come.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #20 posted 09/04/05 10:44am

Krystal666

avatar

Jaarod86 said:

lulirom said:



I remember reading it was written for Susannah when they weren't dating yet because she was dating someone else before Prince and he wanted her to date him... or something like that...


not sayin ure wrong or anything like that, but Possessed said the he wrote the song for Apolonia b/c he wanted to be with her and he wanted her to take Vanity's place in PR and in Vanity 6, (all this supposably happened shortly after he fired Vanity). It said somethin like she wanted to stay in NY with her bf but she changed her mind after Prince wrote the beautiful ones for her. But i dunno, u could very well be right. Considering he say's paint a perfect picture bring to life a vision in one's mind... and for suhannah to be a painter at that. I wouldnt be suprised if he did write it 4 her. but like i said, i dunno.


Ummm,,,I read Possessed and I'm 100% POSTIVE it did not say that! biggrin
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #21 posted 09/04/05 11:41am

aminah80

avatar

Jaarod86 said:

txladykat said:



definately, and written for susannah....before they were dating i believe, right?

I dont think that one was written for Susannah (atleast not according to Possessed).


Yes it was written for Susannah and this is mentioned in "Possessed." She had a boyfriend when they first met and The Beautiful Ones was written for her as a sort of plea for her to choose him over her boyfriend.
I'm gonna make you love me...
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #22 posted 09/04/05 11:44am

aminah80

avatar

aminah80 said:

Jaarod86 said:


I dont think that one was written for Susannah (atleast not according to Possessed).


Yes it was written for Susannah and this is mentioned in "Possessed." She had a boyfriend when they first met and The Beautiful Ones was written for her as a sort of plea for her to choose him over her boyfriend.



The bottom of page 65 and the top paragraph of page 66 to be exact.
I'm gonna make you love me...
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #23 posted 09/04/05 2:46pm

simm0061

avatar

aminah80 said:

aminah80 said:



Yes it was written for Susannah and this is mentioned in "Possessed." She had a boyfriend when they first met and The Beautiful Ones was written for her as a sort of plea for her to choose him over her boyfriend.



The bottom of page 65 and the top paragraph of page 66 to be exact.


I think there is no arguing that the song was written for Susannah but I wouldn't be using Possessed as a way of verifying anything. That is simply the worst, most gossipy, hearsay filled, peice of crap, poor ass excuse for a biography I've ever read!! Now DMRS on the other hand, is pretty damn good. wink
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #24 posted 09/04/05 4:06pm

VanityFair

simm0061 said:

aminah80 said:




The bottom of page 65 and the top paragraph of page 66 to be exact.


I think there is no arguing that the song was written for Susannah but I wouldn't be using Possessed as a way of verifying anything. That is simply the worst, most gossipy, hearsay filled, peice of crap, poor ass excuse for a biography I've ever read!! Now DMRS on the other hand, is pretty damn good. wink


WOW I had no idea Wendy had a twin sister and that she was THE SUSANNAH no less! For some reason I always thought that Susannah was Susan from Vanity6!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #25 posted 09/05/05 1:08am

susannah

Whats "possesed"? Or is there just no point in reading it if youve read the Per Nilsen book and Liz Jones book?
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #26 posted 09/05/05 11:54am

Jaarod86

aminah80 said:

aminah80 said:



Yes it was written for Susannah and this is mentioned in "Possessed." She had a boyfriend when they first met and The Beautiful Ones was written for her as a sort of plea for her to choose him over her boyfriend.



The bottom of page 65 and the top paragraph of page 66 to be exact.


Hmm...i read it. I stand corrected. I swear i dont remember it sayin that tho.
it dont mean Ure wrecked jus cause me tallywackin sucking is all U want. all it means is that the one that come b4 me never made U come.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #27 posted 09/06/05 9:43am

txladykat

avatar

Krystal666 said:

Jaarod86 said:



not sayin ure wrong or anything like that, but Possessed said the he wrote the song for Apolonia b/c he wanted to be with her and he wanted her to take Vanity's place in PR and in Vanity 6, (all this supposably happened shortly after he fired Vanity). It said somethin like she wanted to stay in NY with her bf but she changed her mind after Prince wrote the beautiful ones for her. But i dunno, u could very well be right. Considering he say's paint a perfect picture bring to life a vision in one's mind... and for suhannah to be a painter at that. I wouldnt be suprised if he did write it 4 her. but like i said, i dunno.


Ummm,,,I read Possessed and I'm 100% POSTIVE it did not say that! biggrin



u are correct. That is why I stated above I thought he wrote it for Susannah. In possessed (page 66) it says:

"....Susannah stimulated Prince intellectually as well as physically. But she had a boyfriend in California and was not immediately available for romance, which infuriated Prince. His jealousy inspired one of his most moving songs ever, the ballad 'The Beautiful Ones".
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #28 posted 09/06/05 1:00pm

queen627

get a grip people. Patty Kottero was married before during and after purple rain. P orginally wanted Susanna Hoffs to play the lead female role. As far as most of the women that claimed to have dated him publically where going for the gold.Vanity signed a confidentuallity contract she could not tell the truth if she could remember it in a drug addicted haze. Vanity AkA DEnise matthews dated rick james Mikki free of shalamar,and messed around with eddie murphy while her sister patricia was dating him.
Depends on what you call dating... Photo opt or the real thing you'll never really know who he was dating at anytime. Don't you all think Vanity would have been sued by now if she actually dated P for real. wouldn't that be violating the agreement to keep his private life out of her mouth... smile play on words.
sorry if that was over your head...jump up and try to catch the point next time.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #29 posted 09/06/05 2:29pm

Jaarod86

txladykat said:

Krystal666 said:



Ummm,,,I read Possessed and I'm 100% POSTIVE it did not say that! biggrin



u are correct. That is why I stated above I thought he wrote it for Susannah. In possessed (page 66) it says:

"....Susannah stimulated Prince intellectually as well as physically. But she had a boyfriend in California and was not immediately available for romance, which infuriated Prince. His jealousy inspired one of his most moving songs ever, the ballad 'The Beautiful Ones".

Thanx for lettin me know that. Guess u learn something new everyday, razz.
it dont mean Ure wrecked jus cause me tallywackin sucking is all U want. all it means is that the one that come b4 me never made U come.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Associated artists & people > Susannah Vs other Prince 's women